NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

While it is true they had less to beat you are talking three of the best teams in europe who on any given day would more often than not piss on the top four in the prem .

La Liga is much more than 3 teams just look at their recent European victories. The fact is the EPL has actually been quite poor for a number of years hence the lack of European success.I Dont believe all the hype about the Prem.

La Liga is much more than 3 teams just look at their recent European victories. The fact is the EPL has actually been quite poor for a number of years hence the lack of European success.I Dont believe all the hype about the Prem.

Exactly mate you can't believe how blinkered some are , the prem is media hyped and money driven. Not quality driven.

I am more convinced than ever that when the stadium extension is done, we'll start seeing talk of selling up for a nice little profit.

They'll easily double their money if they bought us for, what was it, £200m, or £250m?

Doubling your money is for suckers, its a totally different mindset when guys like this look to sell for a tidy profit. A reasonable return in they're mind will be a minimum of 3x - 4x; they are not going anywhere soon.

I am more convinced than ever that when the stadium extension is done, we'll start seeing talk of selling up for a nice little profit.

They'll easily double their money if they bought us for, what was it, £200m, or £250m?

Ofcourse resale price is subject to various factors. And clowns like Forbes are notorious for hyping stuff up to ridiculous levels.

But anyway, any resale profit really sickens me just as much as any dividend leeching would.

Its not like they've done anything clever here. Quite the opposite infact. The whole takeover process was rather shady and murky. Why else would the Courts issue a gagging order over the facts with RBS?

They've cut costs to the bone. Sold every one of our heroes. 3 players alone went for a total of 175m. To think the headline purchase price of the CLUB was only 300m (and they only had to find 30% of THAT). Virtually every player signed has been rather cheap, also ran, compared to the top 4 or so. Team is weaker than it was on average in the G&H era.

Imagine if they made say 170m profit after X years. Where has that profit come from? Basically duping  a large enough proportion of the fan base for long enough that the whole thing didn't cave in on them. Look what we pay for tickets vs the top Germans and Spanish. Look how many fans there are. And look at the shower of sh*t we have on the pitch. They dont even treat us as the most important "customers". That privilege goes to Barca, Man C, Chelsea etc - as buyers of our only desirable players.

As far as I'm concerned that 170m or whatever profit would have been conned out of the fans. Imagine what that money could do if it was reinvested in the "club"(or rather "company"). We'd be back where we belong. Rather than chasing miles behind the clubs that were created by investment and pride - like Man C, Chelsea and ofcourse the top Europeans.

anybody now anything about Flags being banned by the club unless the owners sign a register

anybody now anything about Flags being banned by the club unless the owners sign a register

Heard about it earlier in the week mate.  There's talk of organised flag free matches in protest seeing as "the famous Anfield atmosphere", including the Kop Flags, is marketed so heavily by the Club.

anybody now anything about Flags being banned by the club unless the owners sign a register

Not being a scouser not heard much about it but if true that would be utterly ridiculous esp in the Kop.

On the Flags issue.

https://twitter.com/spionkop1906/status/637595629963845632

https://twitter.com/spionkop1906/status/638982989905588224

https://twitter.com/spionkop1906/status/638983211465502721

On the Flags issue.

https://twitter.com/spionkop1906/status/637595629963845632

https://twitter.com/spionkop1906/status/638982989905588224

https://twitter.com/spionkop1906/status/638983211465502721

What is the reasoning behind this? They expecting protests soon and what to filter them out before they start?

Absolutely disgusting in my opinion, reducing the already poor atmosphere to levels probably not witnessed since the Owl.

Fans should retaliate by not going in my opinion, they never heard the phrase 'the customer is always right'? We want flags, we should have flags, at least we provide our own the club should be proud not monitoring this. Very disappointed indeed.

No flags what a F***ing joke especially on a already silent Kop.

Or is this something more sinister and they are expecting protests against the sh*te on the pitch?

No flags what a f**king joke especially on a already silent Kop.

Or is this something more sinister and they are expecting protests against the Sh*te on the pitch?

Wouldn't surprise me if they were bracing for the potential of protests, but I had thought the issue started prior to the West Ham game? Regardless, think it's beyond ridiculous to provide regulation to the Kop, which as others have mentioned, has seemed relatively tamed lately anyway.

So no actual reason why supporters can't take flags?

That's bizarre

probably have to buy officially endorsed flags which will have Dunkin f***in donuts all over them. They really need to tread carefully or there will be protests and not nice ones either.

F***ing embarrassing stuff from the club in trying to regulate the Flag flyers.

probably have to buy officially endorsed flags which will have Dunkin f***in donuts all over them. They really need to tread carefully or there will be protests and not nice ones either.

Maybe they're protecting themselves against Anti-FSG flags, remember the Kop when H&G were here, the "cowboys" , and yanks out flags.

Maybe they're protecting themselves against Anti-FSG flags, remember the Kop when H&G were here, the "cowboys" , and yanks out flags.

Surely they can't stop the 'Yanks out' flags outside the stadium if there were ever to be protest against FSG.

They can stop the demo's inside but not outside.

Surely they can't stop the 'Yanks out' flags outside the stadium if there were ever to be protest against FSG.

They can stop the demo's inside but not outside.

Sure, but Yanks out flags on the KOP during a game being shown all over the world would be more damaging for them, not that I'm condoning that action though! 

If that's their thinking they don't know us very well, if there's one set of fans that knows how and when to stand up for themselves it's us.

I think it is perhaps an over-reaction because of this :-

Liverpool FC fan in court over alleged disturbance with disabled supporters at Steven Gerrard's Anfield farewell
   
15:05, 4 September 2015
Updated  15:05, 4 September 2015 
By Jonathan Humphries
 
Jonathan Poulter denies public order office at Steven Gerrard's last home game
A Liverpool supporter has denied a public order offence involving disabled fans during Steven Gerrard’s last home game.

Jonathan Luke Poulter, 20, of Chapel Road, Anfield, is alleged to have been involved in a disturbance in the Anfield stands as Liverpool faced Crystal Palace on May 16.


The game was the last time Liverpool legend Steven Gerrard appeared for the club, before moving to LA Galaxy after an illustrious 17-year-career.

Sefton Magistrates’ Court heard the incident occurred after a complaint by disabled fans that a Gerrard banner waved by Poulter was blocking their view.

Poulter pleaded not guilty to using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour to cause harassment, alarm or distress under Section 4 of the Public Order Act 1986.

District Judge Richard Clancy set a trial date for November 3 at Sefton Magistrates’ Court.

This week, it emerged that Liverpool FC are in discussion with supporters group Spion Kop to discuss potential improvements to the match day process for flagbearers.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/liverpool-fc-fan-court-over-9992211

Maybe they're protecting themselves against Anti-FSG flags, remember the Kop when H&G were here, the "cowboys" , and yanks out flags.

if the message needs to be put out there then they will find a way these days a plane over Anfield seems the way to go

Maybe they're protecting themselves against Anti-FSG flags, remember the Kop when H&G were here, the "cowboys" , and yanks out flags.

F**k the club on this issue, they are being absolute cu*ts.

They're happy to market those F***ing flags to potential customers (sponsors) but want those fans who bring flags to sign up to a register and wear official accreditation. F**k it, if I was those fans I'd definitely F**k the flags off for a bit, see what the club do then!!

Can see a "you can stick your F***ing accreditation up your arse" song kicking off soon.

F**k the club on this issue, they are being absolute cu*ts.

They're happy to market those F***ing flags to potential customers but want those fans who bring flags to sign up to a register and wear official accreditation. F**k it, if I was those fans I'd definitely F**k the flags off for a bit, see what the club do then!!

Can see a "you can stick your F***ing accreditation up your arse" song kicking off soon.

Agree 100% with this.

Oh and I can already imagine what the club are going to do!! We're going to end up like Chelsea and Arsenal after a goal is scored, mighty red spinning on his head in the goal mouth and officials in club trackies waving one banner behind both the kop and the anny road, while the tourists cheers and another little bit of our club dies.

Grim.