NESV/Fenway Sports Group: Owners of LFC

Its just most of us don't think FSG should still be used as an excus

The should not necessarily be the scapegoat for all that happens also...the teams that lost the 3 previous finals were all good enough to get to the finals and all good enough to win them.

2012 League Cup (w)
2012 FA Cup (L)
2015 FA Cup (L) Penalties
2015 Europa (L)

Again very bad last month we have had as a club; however if we had won 2 cups last year and had been sitting in the league where we are today then there is a good chance this thread is still sitting on pg 2. where it had been while we were thrashing the league earlier this season.

Fine margins and all that.

The should not necessarily be the scapegoat for all that happens also...the teams that lost the 3 previous finals were all good enough to get to the finals and all good enough to win them.

2012 League Cup (w)
2012 FA Cup (L)
2015 FA Cup (L) Penalties
2015 Europa (L)

Again very bad last month we have had as a club; however if we had won 2 cups last year and had been sitting in the league where we are today then there is a good chance this thread is still sitting on pg 2. where it had been while we were thrashing the league earlier this season.

Fine margins and all that.

This month is one of those things. We ran out of form when others we meet came into some

As for the three finals we lost Man City, Chelsea and Seville. Unless the boss gets some class players we will keep losing finals when we meet teams with world class player in depth 

This month is one of those things. We ran out of form when others we meet came into some

As for the three finals we lost Man City, Chelsea and Seville. Unless the boss gets some class players we will keep losing finals when we meet teams with world class player in depth 

There is no doubt that when you look at the bench at City & Chelsea it is a whole lot more inspiring than Kev Stewart & Ragnar Klaven, as for Seville there is a team that knows how to win, I think if we played them 10 times we could win 7 of them..finals are one off's that is anybody's game and much less dependent with regards to bench strength than league campaigns. 

I think there have been some good points made since my last post, but one that has absolutely no substance behind it in my view is the tired old argument 'they're better than Hicks and Gilette'.

Of course they are, but they were cancerous.

But they did create a set of circumstances for themselves where we were a very attractive proposition for a group wanting to make a very lucrative medium term profit.

In many ways Fenway are the result of Hicks and Gillettes regime.

I think there have been some good points made since my last post, but one that has absolutely no substance behind it in my view is the tired old argument 'they're better than Hicks and Gilette'.

Of course they are, but they were cancerous.

But they did create a set of circumstances for themselves where we were a very attractive proposition for a group wanting to make a very lucrative medium term profit.

In many ways Fenway are the result of Hicks and Gillettes regime.

It goes a lot further back than that. The lack of foresight in regards to our business model goes back years.

I think the day FSG sacked Brendan and got Klopp they dealt their last card. Signing a world class manager means they can't hide anymore (I mean where would they go if they sacked him?) and if there's no trophies/significant progress by the summer of 2018 it won't be Jürgen that the fans turn on, it will be FSG.

Very true mate, so long as we fans stay sensible. We KNOW Jürgen is a World class manager, so if HE can't make the FSG model work nobody can. Under those circumstances, turning on the manager would be the height of stupidity.


 Jurgens done the hard bit in getting us playing like a well oiled machine, we now need to ensure he gets the spare parts so next time we have a puncture when we're challenging for the league, we can replace the whole wheel like for life and straight away (a big like formula one) rather than having to pull over to the side of the f****** road with a puncture repair kit.

Fair play to them. I've been highly critical of them recently but you have to give credit where it's due.

That bus can't have come cheap, it must have nearly wiped out a third of Sergi Canos' selling on fee.

£££££££££££££ That's all that needs said tonight!

£££££££££££££ That's all that needs said tonight!

Its defo CL that they are after and have told Jürgen that is what is required season after season for the big mazoolahs to come rolling in.

Trophies are not important ...... only the balance sheet. The FSG Way.

Jürgen was a naughty boy to finish where we did last May and waste time taking us to two finals inn his first six months with us.

That wasn't the way . The Liverpool Way to win trophies.

https://twitter.com/Prof_Chadwick/status/826708876561117184

https://twitter.com/Prof_Chadwick/status/826708876561117184

Does that mean there has been a proposed Chinese takeover the last three January transfer windows?

Does that mean there has been a proposed Chinese takeover the last three January transfer windows?

https://twitter.com/Prof_Chadwick/status/826708876561117184

Why would this club spend excessively in the transfer market with or without Chinese whispers?

Can't vouch for the validity but certainly looks interesting and probably genuine if I had to guess:







All credit to:

FenwayWeComeNotToPay ‏@FenwayWeComeNot  16h16 hours ago
 Excerpts from court case. Conversation between @John_W_Henry & @FenwaySportsMgt showing their real intentions on buying @LFC #FSGOUT #LFC

Does that mean there has been a proposed Chinese takeover the last three January transfer windows?

If Ian Ayre has anything to do with it, then probably yes! 

Can't vouch for the validity but certainly looks interesting and probably genuine if I had to guess:







All credit to:

FenwayWeComeNotToPay ‏@FenwayWeComeNot  16h16 hours ago
 Excerpts from court case. Conversation between @John_W_Henry & @FenwaySportsMgt showing their real intentions on buying @LFC #FSGOUT #LFC

Revealing Luke  .  Very.

I would say that that disclosure  is pretty close to the truth Luke and as you say it is probably genuine.

Yeah but they saved us!

Yeah but they saved us!

... but at a steal for the debt price.

As long as Hicks and Gillett got shafted I don't care.



I do care that they have built the stand .

They have kept us on an even keel  and away from administration.

It's for anybody to see from the New York Supreme Court apparently.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-needed-big-signing-were-9733857?ICID=FB_mirror_MF

A piece defending them

So it seems some were "right all along" about the owners. People who buy sports businesses and don't want to make a profit don't exist, I've never had a problem with them making money out of their investment. What I DO have a problem with, is them not allowing us to punch equal to our potential weight while they're doing it.

All fans need to wise up here. Don't lose faith in Jürgen, look at what's going on behind him.

So it seems some were "right all along" about the owners. People who buy sports businesses and don't want to make a profit don't exist, I've never had a problem with them making money out of their investment. What I DO have a problem with, is them not allowing us to punch equal to our potential weight while they're doing it.

All fans need to wise up here. Don't lose faith in Jürgen, look at what's going on behind him.

I agree Mick, but Klopp keeps insisting he has the funds & is backed when required...

Makes no sense to me why he would say this if it were not the truth...I'm not defending FSG, I believe they can & should spend big but our Boss seems reluctant to do so...