He's chilling with Elvis!!
Er, don't mean to piss on your chips or anything but haven't Al-Qaeda themselves announced he is dead?
Islamabad - A prominent official in the Afghan Taliban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of Al-Qaeda organization, stating that bin Laden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of Al-Qaeda fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden.
No-one's denying he is dead. When he died is another matter. Do you have a source for Al Qaeda's announcement?
Even Fox News reported Bin Laden was dead in 2001.
Hmm, but he realeased numerous statements after that date which were proven to be him, no?
F**k him, he lies with the fishes.
I don't give a f**k about American washing lines or any other, that particular terrorist has gone to meet his maker, he's expired and no more than f**king dust.
If you read the source of the CNN report you will find the statement by Al Qaeda on Islamic forums to be very dubious in origin; there is every chance the statement came from a US military source.No, the statements were as dodgy as the Al Qaeda statement on Bin Laden's death but if there was one in particular you thought was genuine I'd be happy to have a look at it.
We can come back to Bin Laden's dubious 9/11 confessions et al. but first do you accept that the statement you made which started this discussion is doubtful ie Al Qaeda's announcement that he is dead may not be genuinely from Al Qaeda.(otherwise we run the risk of a continuous "moving of the goalposts")
What sort of proof would it take to convince you?
So let me get this straight. The US fakes the death of bin Laden in 2011, but he really died in 2002 and the US knew it at the time. So George W. Bush decided to not fake the death of the (already dead) man he's been after since 2001 -- even though his second term was a disaster and the death of (the already dead) bin Laden would have resurrected it. Therefore, Bush purposely leaves behind a spotty legacy so that his successor Barack Obama -- someone who is on the opposite end of the political spectrum -- can come into office and fake bin Laden's death and subsequently receive all the credit. That was very kind of Dubs.
I don't want to get into that debate cause I'm not very well informed about the details here, but one thing I would point out is that after reading Argo (the book that inspired the film), I started to be a lot more skeptical about official reports and intelligence work. At one point of the book, Tony Mendez mentions how their main plan for a while was to fake the Shah's death in order to appease the Iranians holding the American hostages. You only have to wonder how many other times plans like these did happen. (Sorry for the off-topic observation )
It does lead to doubt about the veracity and bias of reports from all sides concerning this and other statements.The media is a very powerful weapon and the fact that in some countries there are allegations of state control in some aspects of news reporting, there are nations where the media is actually under the control of the state comprehensively.It is possible that some countries would use that particular vehicle of communication to spread totally unfounded anti-western propoganda, there is bound to be a response in the they do it so we do it vein, the difference is western TV is not state run unlike some dictator led regimes where nothing is broadcast without being state produced or heavily vetted.
I too have weighed up all the evidence and I have not seen sufficient evidence that Bin Laden was killed by the US. Until I see that evidence I won't believe that the US killed him.Independent verification by experts that is validated by other independent experts.
I agree freedom of press is a very important aspect of democratic life and state control is particularly dangerous. That said, it doesn't mean our 'free' press (in US, Brazil, UK, etc) are unbiased and do not serve certain agendas. Think Hillsborough.