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Reply #30 : November 21, 2011, 03:28:57 AM »
I'm so susceptible to getting addicted to anything, it's ridiculous. I've already finished Justified 1st series (seen all the episodes in just a few days) and I'm already starting the 2nd series now.

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Reply #31 : November 21, 2011, 12:54:49 PM »
I'm so susceptible to getting addicted to anything, it's ridiculous. I've already finished Justified 1st series (seen all the episodes in just a few days) and I'm already starting the 2nd series now.

Brilliant series, watched both the first and second series, loved every episode. The first episode of the first series is based on a short story "Fire In the Hole" and the novels Pronto and Riding the Rap by Elmore Leonard.


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Reply #32 : November 21, 2011, 03:00:03 PM »
For another good straight through watch on Netflix, I recommend Friday Night Lights. Great ensemble cast. I also want to start watching Breaking Bad, but I'm scared of becoming addicted to ANOTHER show :D

Started watching Friday Night Lights as well, I'm on the 6th episode of the 1st series. It's almost too dramatic for me, but the acting is really good, and the football background makes it very enjoyable.

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Reply #33 : November 21, 2011, 05:22:52 PM »
Started watching Friday Night Lights as well, I'm on the 6th episode of the 1st series. It's almost too dramatic for me, but the acting is really good, and the football background makes it very enjoyable.

Friday Night Lights is quality,one of my favourite shows of all time,every season got better bar the one they had to cut it short due to the writers strike,gutted its finished now.Tim Riggins is a great character 2

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Reply #34 : November 21, 2011, 08:48:17 PM »
Didn't think I'd enjoy FNL at all because of my lack of American Football knowledge. How wrong I was. 

Got hooked, watched every episode in the space of a few months, damn it was amazing.

Love NFL now too :P

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Reply #35 : November 21, 2011, 10:00:42 PM »
I'm so susceptible to getting addicted to anything, it's ridiculous. I've already finished Justified 1st series (seen all the episodes in just a few days) and I'm already starting the 2nd series now.

downloading Justified right now.Looks good in the promo,need a new show to get addicted  to

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Reply #36 : November 21, 2011, 10:04:06 PM »
Started Volume 2 of Prisoner Cell Block H.  Volume 1 had Madge from Neighbours in a few episodes, already spotted Ailsa from Home & Away in Volume 2.  It's so bad, it's good. 
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Reply #37 : November 21, 2011, 10:45:57 PM »
Good idea for a thread, I've always wanted to talk about shows without having to start a separate thread. ;)

I don't really watch TV that much but I do watch a lot of boxsets and shows on the computer.

Totally agree with you on The Walking Dead, Diego.  The first season was great and the pilot was one of the best things I have ever seen, but it is going drastically downhill.  Watching it reminds me an awful lot of Lost, especially the survival and philosophical aspects it tries to incorporate.  Lost did it a million times better though with characters you cared about.  Couldn't give a sh*t about any of them on The Walking Dead.  The zombies are the only reason I keep watching, and even they've taken a backseat cos they don't eat anybody!  And how come mindless, brain dead zombies have the wit to always sneak up and ambush the survivors?  They spend most of their time arguing over stupid things and making stupid decisions that its cringeworthy to watch.

I'm watching about 10 different shows at the same time currently so it gets fairly confusing. 

Boardwalk Empire season two is fantastic at the minute, much better than season one which was also great.
The Walking Dead season two is very mediocre so far IMO.
Dexter season six is still pretty good.  A bit of a repetitive formula but I love it
American Horror Story season one is really impressive.  Didn't think I would like it as it seemed a mish mash of every horror cliche under the sun.  But its creepy, dark and actually has a decent storyline coming along.
Supernatural season seven is okay.  Probably should have ended after five amazing seasons.  But the occasional brilliant episode does it make it worth ploughing through the ordinary ones.
The Vampire Diaries season three - people may laugh at this one but this show is so entertaining. :D  At this moment in time, definitely better than Supernatural.  And better than True Blood!

In boxsets I am on Fringe season two, as well as Justified season two and Breaking Bad season three.

The best of all though is Six Feet Under.  I'm only on the third season but that show is incredible.  The characters are the most believable I have ever seen and its so emotional that you can relate to all of them, even the ones you hate.  A show about a dysfunctional family of funeral directors shouldn't appeal to me but it is one of the best I have ever seen.

Of course there are others like Deadwood, The Wire, Carnivale, Spartacus, Firefly, Rome that everybody should watch. ;)

And btw Twin Peaks is fantastic.  Special Agent Dale Cooper being one of the best characters ever created.  A great mix of tension and dark atmosphere with wacky humour.  Couldn't recommend it enough...couldn't recommend any of the shows I have mentioned enough. :D

I do have a life outside of TV shows though...there's quite a lot I haven't even mentioned haha.

Sh*t I nearly forgot to mention Game of Thrones.  As a big fan of the books and having had the privilege of meeting some of the cast, crew and the author of the books, I may be a little biased - but this show is currently the best on TV at the minute, barring none.

Here's an insight into season two for anyone interested:

Game of Thrones: Season 2 In Production

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Reply #38 : November 21, 2011, 11:25:42 PM »
downloading Justified right now.Looks good in the promo,need a new show to get addicted  to


I think you won't regret it mate! It's so good :)

Good idea for a thread, I've always wanted to talk about shows without having to start a separate thread. ;)

I don't really watch TV that much but I do watch a lot of boxsets and shows on the computer.

Totally agree with you on The Walking Dead, Diego.  The first season was great and the pilot was one of the best things I have ever seen, but it is going drastically downhill.  Watching it reminds me an awful lot of Lost, especially the survival and philosophical aspects it tries to incorporate.  Lost did it a million times better though with characters you cared about.  Couldn't give a sh*t about any of them on The Walking Dead.  The zombies are the only reason I keep watching, and even they've taken a backseat cos they don't eat anybody!  And how come mindless, brain dead zombies have the wit to always sneak up and ambush the survivors?  They spend most of their time arguing over stupid things and making stupid decisions that its cringeworthy to watch.

I'm watching about 10 different shows at the same time currently so it gets fairly confusing. 

Boardwalk Empire season two is fantastic at the minute, much better than season one which was also great.
The Walking Dead season two is very mediocre so far IMO.
Dexter season six is still pretty good.  A bit of a repetitive formula but I love it
American Horror Story season one is really impressive.  Didn't think I would like it as it seemed a mish mash of every horror cliche under the sun.  But its creepy, dark and actually has a decent storyline coming along.
Supernatural season seven is okay.  Probably should have ended after five amazing seasons.  But the occasional brilliant episode does it make it worth ploughing through the ordinary ones.
The Vampire Diaries season three - people may laugh at this one but this show is so entertaining. :D  At this moment in time, definitely better than Supernatural.  And better than True Blood!

In boxsets I am on Fringe season two, as well as Justified season two and Breaking Bad season three.

The best of all though is Six Feet Under.  I'm only on the third season but that show is incredible.  The characters are the most believable I have ever seen and its so emotional that you can relate to all of them, even the ones you hate.  A show about a dysfunctional family of funeral directors shouldn't appeal to me but it is one of the best I have ever seen.

Of course there are others like Deadwood, The Wire, Carnivale, Spartacus, Firefly, Rome that everybody should watch. ;)

And btw Twin Peaks is fantastic.  Special Agent Dale Cooper being one of the best characters ever created.  A great mix of tension and dark atmosphere with wacky humour.  Couldn't recommend it enough...couldn't recommend any of the shows I have mentioned enough. :D

I do have a life outside of TV shows though...there's quite a lot I haven't even mentioned haha.

Sh*t I nearly forgot to mention Game of Thrones.  As a big fan of the books and having had the privilege of meeting some of the cast, crew and the author of the books, I may be a little biased - but this show is currently the best on TV at the minute, barring none.

Here's an insight into season two for anyone interested:

Game of Thrones: Season 2 In Production


Out of all the shows you mentioned that I haven't watched yet, I'm very interested in The Wire. A friend of mine compared it to The Shield, which is one of my favorite series ever, so it's probably good. I'll give it a chance when I finish Justified's 2nd season.

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Reply #39 : November 22, 2011, 08:09:14 PM »
Keep going with FNL, Diego. It gets better and better. They do a fantastic job developing characters. By the time it ended, I was so emotionally attached to Coach Taylor that I checked in to couple's therapy by myself :D

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Reply #40 : November 23, 2011, 03:47:19 PM »
Keep going with FNL, Diego. It gets better and better. They do a fantastic job developing characters. By the time it ended, I was so emotionally attached to Coach Taylor that I checked in to couple's therapy by myself :D

:D Coach Taylor is an amazing character, I'm loving it so far.

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Reply #41 : November 23, 2011, 11:55:46 PM »
I really liked the original Friday Night Lights movie with Billy Bob Thornton. I never really started on the series because the promos made it look like one of those teen dramas.

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Reply #42 : November 28, 2011, 11:00:52 PM »
I really liked the original Friday Night Lights movie with Billy Bob Thornton. I never really started on the series because the promos made it look like one of those teen dramas.

Far from it. Better than the movie, I thought. It's a great series.

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Reply #43 : November 29, 2011, 04:12:33 PM »
If you like silly comedy than a show that I recommend is It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Danny Devito is in it after the first season but the series the whole way through is gold.

Guilty pleasure of mine is 2 Broke Girls, it's new and I for some reason been hooked on it. Maybe a bit corny but I always get a kick out of it.

FNL was a great series as was the movie. The original book for FNL is a solid read as well though it really give a darker view on the town and how the treatment of these kids as super star really hurts them in the long run.

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Reply #44 : November 29, 2011, 07:46:00 PM »
I've been meaning to watch It's Always Sunny. If you're in to that, I hope you watched Arrested Development. That show was absolutely brilliant.

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Reply #45 : November 29, 2011, 09:58:31 PM »
I've been meaning to watch It's Always Sunny. If you're in to that, I hope you watched Arrested Development. That show was absolutely brilliant.

Yes! Shame the show only lasted 3 seasons as it was one of the best show on TV during 03-05, there is always talk about a movie coming out but nothing been finalized yet.

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Reply #46 : November 30, 2011, 09:48:46 PM »
Yes! Shame the show only lasted 3 seasons as it was one of the best show on TV during 03-05, there is always talk about a movie coming out but nothing been finalized yet.

Not true, it's been confirmed there will be a movie! First, another season to lead in to the movie. I'm excited to see what happened after they escaped to Mexico :P

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Reply #47 : December 03, 2011, 04:27:07 AM »
I just started watching the new Ricky Gervais show Lifes Too Short.  I already liked Gervais I like all his stuff..Radio, Podcasts, Extra's.

This new show is hilarious. I actually cried I was laughing so hard.

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Reply #48 : December 03, 2011, 06:36:36 AM »
I just started watching the new Ricky Gervais show Lifes Too Short.  I already liked Gervais I like all his stuff..Radio, Podcasts, Extra's.

This new show is hilarious. I actually cried I was laughing so hard.

I'm not sure if you have seen it yet but the third episode where Warren goes to view an apartment is the funniest yet.

Brilliant show.

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Reply #49 : December 03, 2011, 07:58:46 AM »
My over burgeoning DVD collection recently expanded, starting add two shows I've never seen before, Prison Break (season 1) and Lost (seasons 1 & 2) as well as adding the 1st series of Ashes to Ashes.
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Reply #50 : December 03, 2011, 05:56:44 PM »
I'm not sure if you have seen it yet but the third episode where Warren goes to view an apartment is the funniest yet.

Brilliant show.
I did see that.  I liked the episode when he went to house to get his trophy and was climbing his book case. I almost pissed myself laughing.  That show is brilliant.

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Reply #51 : December 03, 2011, 08:17:51 PM »
Looking forward to next Monday's episode of "Fight of their lives" on ITV1 focusing on the bout between Nigel Benn and Gerald McClellan, still one of the most brutal boxing matches I think I've ever seen.

Boxing: Pain still fresh of night that cannot be forgotten

An ITV documentary on Monday brings the memories flooding back of how Nigel Benn left Gerald McClellan paralysed and blind after their shocking fight 16 years ago

Some pain never eases, some horror doesn't relent, but there are times when you are obliged to go back, however unwillingly, to the source.

Not out of any dark voyeurism but the need to understand quite what happened, how it was shaped and how it just might affect something as troubling as the ambivalence, for example, of anyone who ever left the boxing ringside torn between guilt and exhilaration.

On Monday night this opportunity comes to anyone who attended the fight between Nigel Benn and Gerald McClellan at the London Arena in February, 1995, an eviscerating collision which left the latter, an American world middleweight champion of ferocious and clinical talent, consigned to a life of blindness and paralysis.

The ITV documentary, screened at 10.35pm, is both disturbing and brilliant. It throws you back into a lifetime of regret and once again it provokes the question that for some can never be satisfactorily resolved, the one that asks if professional fighting can, in the end, ever be truly justified.

Soon after the shocking scenes in the ring, when in the 10th round McClellan, feeling the first disabling effects of a blood clot, twice went down on one knee, was counted out the second time, then collapsed, a motion for the abolition of boxing was tabled in the House of Commons. It was defeated but no one in the sport had any reason to be sanguine, and least of all those in the hospital who heard the understated words of the surgeon charged with saving McClellan's life. He said: "The brain is swollen but that is what we would expect it to be after being punched for 10 rounds. There is a clot in his brain that will end his career and kill him if it isn't taken out."

McClellan spent 11 days in a coma after the emergency operation and eventually he was taken back to his home in Freeport, Illinois by his sister Lisa, who has cared for him with great devotion ever since. She says now that for many years she wanted Benn dead but admits to being moved by the sight of the British fighter, now a lay preacher, weeping when he embraced her brother at the fundraising event he had organised in the West End of London. "Yes, that was a kind of closure," she admits.

One that is maybe not guaranteed to carry her through all the long nights, but then when you think of the convulsion that came to her brother's life, his violent separation from all the certainties created by a talent that had made him in the eyes of many experts the world's best pound-for-pound, most destructive fighter, still a kind of miracle of emotional endurance.

McClellan was an overwhelming favourite, having successfully defended his World Boxing Council middleweight title three times, all of them inside the first round, when he came to London to challenge Benn for his WBC super-middleweight title and his status was confirmed with withering power as early as the first round. He sent Benn sprawling through the ropes and on to the apron of the ring and one of the agonies that came later, when McClellan, who also floored Benn in the eighth round, began to blink uncontrollably and give, in retrospect the first clear evidence that he was in serious trouble, was the belief of many that the French referee, Alfred Asaro had given the British fighter the benefit of a long count.

"The fight should have been over there and then," Stan Johnson, McClellan's trainer, still insists.

Johnson, though, is one of the documentary's least convincing witnesses, especially when he claims there was no evidence that his fighter had developed a serious problem in the ring and, chillingly, Emma McClellan says that she could not say he was a properly qualified coach of boxers.

Her point is augmented by the famous trainer Emmanuel Steward, who had developed McClellan's talent in his Kronk Gym in Detroit and would have been at ringside in London but for contractual disputes. Steward says that had he been in McClellan's corner the tragedy would not have happened

Johnson accuses Benn of being "juiced up on something", claiming for the first time 15 years after the event that the McClellan corner had "blood" evidence that he was using anabolic steroids. Benn denies the charge vehemently, saying that while he was addicted to "recreational" drugs throughout his career it was "not him" to use the performance enhancing variety, and that when he collapsed on the way back from the ring to his dressing room it was out of exhaustion and not any plan to avoid a post-fight drugs test.

Later, when the plight of his opponent had become clear, he said that he was sorry but, "Better him than me".

It was a sentiment that might, you have to suspect, have slipped as easily from the lips of McClellan had the roles been reversed. Not the least affecting scenes from the film depict the relationship between the stricken fighter and his sister, especially in one when they discuss the roles of the carer and the dependent and she jokes that he might pay her $100. He asks, "What do you want me to do, rob a bank?" They both laugh at the impracticality of the plan.

However, there is no disguising the hard edge of McClellan's nature in pre-fight footage. An interviewer asks him about his status as the world's second best pound-for-pound fighter. McClellan's eyes narrow and he asks: "Who do they say is the first?" It is not so much a question as a bitter reproach.

McClellan trained pit bulls for fighting. He said the breed reminded him of himself. Johnson reports he once asked the fighter why he served up a labrador to his pit bull and says that McClellan responded: "A pit bull is like a fighter. Every so often it needs to taste blood."

The awful trajectory of the fight is perfectly recaptured and the most telling moments are when McClellan, who was comfortably ahead on every scorecard, first began to display distress and confusion, about which Johnson insists there was absolutely no evidence to justify any decision to throw in the towel.

The list of witnesses is long. Among the more eloquent is former world featherweight champion Barry McGuigan, who does not attempt to diminish the horrific consequences of the fight but also makes the point that boxing has saved hundreds of thousands of lives by rescuing young people from the most dangerous streets. It is the classic defence but not so easy to proclaim when the questioning gets a little more specific.

McGuigan suggests that McClellan's corner should have identified a growing problem but then he is asked: "Should the referee have picked up on it?" McGuigan frowns and says: "It's a good question."

But then so many questions littered that night in London's Docklands. You had to wonder if you would ever forget, and would ever be entitled to forget, those terrible scenes in the corner of the ring where McClellan first rested against the post, then slipped down onto the canvas and, finally, was laid out flat. There was the ultimate fear that you were watching a life ebb away and if that was averted by the skill of a young surgeon we would know soon enough that some things could not be retrieved.

It made you think of all the great fights you had seen and how much accumulated damage had come along the way. You thought of the condition of Muhammad Ali, so exacerbated by the gratuitous punishment he took before the end, and not least on a night in Las Vegas when his former sparring partner Larry Holmes was obliged to pound on him for seven rounds before the great old cornerman Angelo Dundee called the surrender.

You remembered the night Sugar Ray Leonard's wife Juanita screamed, "No more baby, no more," when her husband fought Tommy "The Hitman" Hearns to a standstill in one of the greatest contests ever – or when Marvin Hagler and Hearns, again, produced extraordinarily violent action over three rounds.

Benn-McClellan, though a merciless contest, has to be remembered for other reasons. In unremitting detail, it is about to be presented to us again, in all the rawness of the fighters' aspirations and the brutality of the fate of one of them. Also, the inherent danger accompanying any fighter who ever steps into the ring.

Frank Bruno was another witness and he speaks of his absolute absorption in the battle. It is pointed out to him that he sat, when he wasn't jumping up and down, dressed in a red suit, in the company of the promoter Don King, who was quite possibly contemplating the prospects of a rematch. Bruno says that the fight was so compelling he wouldn't have noticed if Mickey Mouse or Batman had occupied a neighbouring seat.

Certainly it was absorbing. What else it was, what else boxing will always be, has rarely been so graphically portrayed. The Fight of Their Lives is illuminating in the darkest possible way.


http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/others/boxing-pain-still-fresh-of-night-that-cannot-be-forgotten-6271420.html


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Reply #52 : December 03, 2011, 08:46:11 PM »
This is a much watch programme if your a boxing fan, cant wait for it !

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Reply #53 : December 03, 2011, 08:50:07 PM »
If you're a boxing fan Steve it isn't really what you want to see, it was the last thing Nigel Benn wanted to witness.
Didn't realise it was that long ago - 16 years is a long time not least of all for the lad who was injured. Often wonder how  he's geeting on had heard that he was improving but that was some years ago.
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Reply #54 : December 03, 2011, 09:09:47 PM »
If you're a boxing fan Steve it isn't really what you want to see, it was the last thing Nigel Benn wanted to witness.
Didn't realise it was that long ago - 16 years is a long time not least of all for the lad who was injured. Often wonder how  he's geeting on had heard that he was improving but that was some years ago.
I think it serves as a reminder that all the money thats thrown around these days in the sport only masks the fact that its a dangerous sport and your life is on the line everytime you step into the ring and no matter how much you get paid what happened to McClellan was a tragic accident and just one punch can make one mans life and (almost) end another !

I read your post before you edited it and thought that you thought you were in the song thread with the Telly Savalas song 'IF' !

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Reply #55 : December 03, 2011, 09:28:00 PM »


I read your post before you edited it and thought that you thought you were in the song thread with the Telly Savalas song 'IF' !
Pressed  'post' by mistake mate.
Hear what you're saying about the fight game and injuries of that nature are rare, there have been incidents of injuries in the ring but a pre existing condition is usually to blame.

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Reply #56 : December 03, 2011, 09:40:03 PM »
Agree about injuries being rare Stuey but maybe a compulsary CT scan would be better before the title fights ?

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Reply #57 : December 03, 2011, 10:27:18 PM »
I understand there are more stringent safety procedures to be followed now Steve although by the very nature of the sport unfortunately there will be injuries but hopefully not on the scale of MaClennan's tragic misfortune.
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Reply #58 : December 03, 2011, 10:51:27 PM »
I do think as you say it really was a tragic misfortune and don't think Ben could be blamed in anyway like it appears to be by McClennans sister.
They both agreed to the fight and both were unaware of McClennan's condition.

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Reply #59 : December 14, 2011, 06:27:07 PM »
Anyone else watching American Horror Story?

I have to admit, I had trouble with the first couple of episodes, as they are very strange, but after persisting with it, we discover a lot more about the characters and everything starts to make a certain kind of sense.

No spoilers, but if you don't know it, it's about a couple and their daughter who move into a new house, trying to make a fresh start after the husband cheated on his wife. Except the house is haunted, by more than one ghost!

I'm hooked now, and the images and ambience are really excellent! Plenty of scares and unexpected, I recommend it, but like I said earlier, you need to persist with it if you struggle early on.