Chelsea v Liverpool (Wed 19th Dec)

[F9T]

Well, lets get that dismal result out of the way and prepare for the Mickey Mou... er I mean Carling Cup tie at the Bridge. Predictions, comments, and who do you think Rafa should play

I think it will be 1-2 to us with a Gerrard free kick in injury time winning it for us.
Itandje should get a start, hoping to see more of Lucas as well. Babel impresses me more every game.

(1st time I have posted a match thread, so sorry if its as bad as Neverton)

Route to the Quater Finals (2 games)

Reading 2-4 Liverpool
Liverpool 2-1 Cardiff

Hull 0-4 Chelsea
Chelsea 4-3 Leicester (funny as they were 0-1 and 2-3 down, Lamb-pie scored a Hat Trick tho)

[LazyFingers]

Two nil to us, hopefully! Maybe Agger or Alonso will get a run in this match, as well as maybe Hobbs and Lucas?

[smigger15]

Well, lets get that dismal performance out of the way and prepare for the Mickey Mou... er I mean Carling Cup tie at the Bridge. Predictions, comments etc.

That wasn't a 'dismal' performance by a long chalk, we played them off the park and they won by a 'lucky' goal when our concentration lapsed by a second.  Bring Chelski on, we'll do them on Wednesday 

[donrafael]

I want us to play our reserves.

We have bigger fish to fry this season.

IF our reseves are not up to beating them... they can keep the Soya Milk Lager Cuppa.

[mingles]

Just hope we're not so reserved in attack as we were against United and Babel needs to start. HEl ooked great against United .so unlucky not to have scored,. Mascherano was also a bit off for me . I was hoping lucas would replace him but it didn't happen.Hope Lucas also gets a run against Chelski

[Ard Mhacha Red]

I gotta be honest, I couldn't give a rattlin f**k how we do in the carling cup, no matter who we play. the league is number one, two and three for me.

[donrafael]

Just hope we're not so reserved in attack as we were against United and Babel needs to start. HEl ooked great against United .so unlucky not to have scored,. Mascherano was also a bit off for me . I was hoping lucas would replace him but it didn't happen.Hope Lucas also gets a run against Chelski

If you think Masch was a bit off today - you frankly have no f**king clue about the game.

He was superb, world-class, sublime in his holding midfield role today.

F**k me... some of the things you have to read on here.

[Ard Mhacha Red]

don, I now you like a bit of confromtation, but masch was fairly average at best today.  sublime...world class...superb, not on todays performance old son. having said that, he wasn't the only one who cam up short today.

[Ju]

I agree about Mascherano, he didnt play that well today

[CRK]

I agree about Mascherano, he didnt play that well today

Are you messing? He was f**king tremendous! I'm not even going to waste my time!....

[The Fallen Soldier]

If you think Masch was a bit off today - you frankly have no F***ing clue about the game.

He was superb, world-class, sublime in his holding midfield role today.

F**k me... some of the things you have to read on here.

Are you messing? He was F***ing tremendous! I'm not even going to waste my time!....

sorry but I disagree with both of you and Im really beginning to think that Don is a wind up merchant. Masch was not at his best today sorry but he wasnt. He was full of nervous energy and ran out of position on a number of occasions he also let the nervous energy get the better of his temprement today after getting a booking for a trivial incident like throwing that ball. And before you harp on Im not slating him by any long stretch, he tried hard and battled hard but was not totally on his game not by a long stretch, I have seen him play a lot better in fact a lot lot better.

And before you berate me about knowing f**k all about the game.... Im not gonna bother as I think you know better than that.

As far as the chavs go Im going to the game and hopefully we can get one up on those cockney russians, I hope so anyway it will make things hurt less than they do right now.

[CRK]

sorry but I disagree with both of you and Im really beginning to think that Don is a wind up merchant. Masch was not at his best today sorry but he wasnt. He was full of nervous energy and ran out of position on a number of occasions he also let the nervous energy get the better of his temprement today after getting a booking for a trivial incident like throwing that ball. And before you harp on Im not slating him by any long stretch, he tried hard and battled hard but was not totally on his game not by a long stretch, I have seen him play a lot better in fact a lot lot better.

And before you berate me about knowing F**k all about the game.... Im not gonna bother as I think you know better than that.

As far as the chavs go Im going to the game and hopefully we can get one up on those cockney russians, I hope so anyway it will make things hurt less than they do right now.

Wouldn't acuse you of knowing f*ck all Prag!

I do disagree though mate, I do think he played well! The booking was a bit silly though, agreed on that! But I feel that we held them well enough, just gutted they got their shot off!

Back on topic from me however....

Of course the Carling Cup isn't up there with the Prem or the CL! But I seriously hope we do them on Wednesday! Book ourselves a two leg derby!

[benforrest]

Back onto the topic, I think this would be a time where we could play our returning-from-injury-players Xabi wasn't going to start againest Manure but Chelsea doesn't matter as much. I'm not sure when Agger comes back but if he is able to play he must. We don't want to play too many reserves otherwise, we will get done too easily, but Lucas or Leto should start this one. El Zhar I'm thinking about but I think it would be nice if we could win the Carling Cup, it might be our best chance for Silverware at the moment. Voronin should start alongside Crouch, It may be early but the team I think will be:
                                       Itandje
Arbeloa               Hobbs                   Hyypia              Aurelio
Leto/Babel      Xabi Alonso/Masch      Gerrard/Lucas    Leto/Babel
                         Crouch                  Voronin 
But this line-up depends on who Chelsea play, if they play full strength, we won't win with a team like this.

[JD]

This midweek game will be VERY intriguing as to what side Rafa puts out.  One thing is for sure - the most important game in the week ahead is the weekend game against Portsmouth.

I'd happily lose to this Chelsea mob and take three points against Pompey who are <shock horror> on the same frigging points as us!

[Billy1]

I hope we beat Chelsea in the Carling Cup whatever team we put out.Im of the opinion the REDS should win any cup they can.I remember  the late great Emlyn Hughes winning the old league cup with Wolves the season after he left the REDS,I think that gave Emlyn the full set.People might not rate the Carling cup but if we get through to the final tickets will still be hard to come by.

[solodee]

That wasn't a 'dismal' performance by a long chalk, we played them off the park and they won by a 'lucky' goal when our concentration lapsed by a second.  Bring Chelski on, we'll do them on Wednesday 

Nice one! Called it the way it really was!

I think Babel should start as a striker alongside Torres. Kuyt, Crouch and Veronin can start from the bench from now on. It's become clearer that Babel should start as a striker, Kewell is doing well holding down the left flank.

We will beat Chelsea, I am looking for (4-0)

[kelv78]

We dont have a good record at the bridge but it would be nice to see us in the draw for the semis along with Everton.

[crouchinho]

I would like to see a mix of first teamers and hopefuls and reserves:

                   Itandje

Arbeloa    Hobbs  Carragher  Aurelio

El Zhar                     Lucas     Leto
              Benayoun

           Voronin     Crouch

Bouzannis  Insua  Gerrard Sissoko Nemeth


Doubt we'll win but I dont see this competition as priority, the premier league and CL are what we are aiming for and shouldnt risk any players ahead of the christmas period.

[CRK]

I would like to see a mix of first teamers and hopefuls and reserves:

                   Itandje

Arbeloa    Hobbs  Carragher  Aurelio

El Zhar                     Lucas     Leto
              Benayoun

           Voronin     Crouch

Bouzannis  Insua  Gerrard Sissoko Nemeth


Doubt we'll win but I dont see this competition as priority, the premier league and CL are what we are aiming for and shouldnt risk any players ahead of the christmas period.

I'd play a team like that, although I'd start Gerrard with Lucas in the middle and let Torres at them rather than Voronin! I know it's not vital that we win the Carling Cup but either a semi final or final derby? It's too much to pass up! That's a good mix of up and coming players and match winners!

[crouchinho]

I'd bring on Torres after 60 minutes after Voronin undoubtedly fails his job and Gerrard in for Benayoun after he burns out.

[lil cisse]

babel and crouch upfront please. john terry is injured so use babels pace. el zhar on the right lucas in centre maybe with alonso kewell left and defence arbeloa carra hyypia and riise/aurelio

[F9T]

My team would be:

GK: Itandje

RB: Arbeloa (Finnan if match fit)
CB: Hobbs & Hyypia
LB: Aurelio

RM: Benayoun
CM: Lucas
CM: Gerrard
LM: Kewell

FWD: Crouch
FWD: Voronin

My selection in Midfield is mainly influenced by the fact Chelsea have a good midfield. And Rafa should have learned not to field understrenght teams in the Carling Cup against Premier League. Kewell is still not quite match fit. Hobbs and Hyypia played well against Bolton together. Voronin also needs to be able to play more games. Crouch just needs to boost his confidence, in my eyes he should have started against United. Finnan would be my first pick at right back, if fit because he also needs to get back to fitness. Thats it really. I would also play Agger and maybe Alonso in place of Lucas if they are both able to play, because they should get some match practise in a game only considered important coz its Chel$ki Abramograd.

[chrislfc22]

I think its has to be the following in my view

                    Itandje
Finnan   Hobbs  Hyypia   Aurelio

Benayoun  Gerrard  Alonso  Kewell

         Crouch  Torres

not too sure if rafa will play torres tho he may be rested, and also Alonso first run out may give him 60 mint then put Lucas on!

[benforrest]

I don't want to speak too soon, but is it possible we play Everton next round? (if we make it)

[shikhark]

Gerrard,Torres and Carra need a break imo.Lucas and Alonso should start in midfield and Babel given a run upfront along with Crouch.

[redkop63]

Go, go, go away leave me alone (still sobbing), I still haven't got over the defeat yet. Anyway, I think we should really concentrate and remain focus on the CL and the league.

[crouchinho]

Hyypia wont play against Chelsea I dont think. If Finnan is fit then I can almost guarantee that Arbeloa and Hobbs will play in CB and Aurellio and Finnan as fullbacks. TOrres and Gerrard will either start untill the 60th or come on in the 60th. Crouch and Voronin up front for me then. Im confident I can pick his squad for this game which has prbably never been done before in Gaffer history.

                   Itandje

Finnan   Hobbs   Arbeloa   Aurellio

El Zhar    Gerrard    Lucas    Leto

           Crouch   Voronin

Knowing Rafa's selection's though I'll probably get 2/11 in that. Ah well.

[donrafael]

Only slight difference....thought about Insua starting too...

            Itandje

Finnan   Hobbs   Arbeloa   Aurellio

El Zhar    Momo    Lucas    Leto

           Crouch   Voronin

Subs: SG, FT, JM, JC, PR

[artaylor]

             Itandje

Finnan (if fit)    Hobbs   Arbeloa   Aurelio

El Zhar    Alonso    Lucas    Leto

             voronin    Babel

I wouldn't play Hyypia because he wouldn't be able to start against Portsmouth without being tired out after this game; he's just too old to play twice a week constantly. Aurelio I would play to get him back into match practice, and the same goes for Alonso. Hopefully Xabi will be back to his best soon enough and ready to start in the Premiership. I'd like to see more of Babel up front, so he would be starting for me as well. I'm becoming more and more convinced his best position, with his superb pace and stinging shot, is up front.

[RedScouseLaz]

Go, go, go away leave me alone (still sobbing), I still haven't got over the defeat yet. Anyway, I think we should really concentrate and remain focus on the CL and the league.

were Liverpool , we aim to win everything we are in .


is anyone on here going by the way ?

.....im really not looking forword to the coach journey ,