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« on: May 13, 2008, 07:15:23 PM »

I saw this on another site so was wondering your thoughts on how our players have done this season.

Reina - 8, Class keeper, golden glove winner again and very few mistakes
Itandje - 5, Not involved much but concedes goals when he does play e.g. Havant & Waterloovile and Reading (CC)
Arbeloa - 7, More settled and solid this season
Finnan - 6, Injuries have plagued his season
Carragher - 8, Consistent as ever and played out of position for some games but did a good job, a negative is that he did give away a few penalties
Skrtel - 9, Cracking signing by Rafa and will fight with Agger for the CB place next season, unless Carra is at RB
Agger - 6, Not enough match action for Agger this season
Hyypia - 9, Called in to replace Agger and has been a revived sensation, a deserved new contract
Hobbs - 6, Played a few games but not really Prem standard yet
Riise - 6, Poor, no goals and defence had been questionable at times
Aurelio - 8, Much improved and more of an attacking threat
Insua - 6, Only seen in Man City game but one for the future
Pennant - 6, Not been picked enough but linked up with Crouchie in last few games, may leave in summer
Benayoun - 7, Good start to Anfield career, more expected from the yoss
Kuyt - 8, Found a new position, puts in a full shift but still needs more goals and some pace
Babel - 8, Inconsistent but the class has been shown and the potential of this kid is frightening
Leto - 7, Started some games early on and looked decent enough
Kewell - 5, Injuries again, not fulfilled his potential
Leiva - 7, Not quite adjusted to Prem League yet but it will come in time
Mascherano - 9, Stunning work ethic and integral part of our team, nice to see him score his first goal
Alonso - 7, Poor at times but regained some form late on, should not leave in summer
Plessis - 7, Promising youngster and more 1st team chances needed next season
Gerrard - 9, Excellent again, Torres has reformed his game and looking forward to seeing the deadly duo next season
El Zhar -  7, A talent, may need to go out on loan for some experience though
Voronin - 6, A burden most of the time, must be sold to Chavski for £30 million, he's worth every penny Roman
Crouch - 7, Good when involved but simply cannot get Rafa to pick him, most likely going in summer
Torres - 9, Fabulous player, settled in terrificly, his pace is frightening and finishing is lethal, given a class song by the Kop aswell

Any other players I have missed out on can be added

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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2008, 08:03:49 PM »

This seems quite a fair assessment of the players this year, though it is obviously very difficult to rate some of them due to lack of time on the pitch. I can say that you've been generous to Riise and Voronin IMO, as I wouldn't have given them more than 4-5. Riise has looked a menace to his own defence and has offered nothing in attack, and as for Voronin it's not because he came for free that he deserves a 6, he just hasn't fitted in. Aurelio has been good, though I'd have given a 7, I think honestly that when we compare him to his replacement Riise we get the impression he's better than he is, though he's made good progress.

I'd give Reina a 9, he couldn't do much more this year, the golden gloves award says it all, top stuff. Obviously I agree wholeheartedly for Hyppia's 9, if only all players could mature the way he has done! Lastly, I'd give Kuyt a 7, he's had his up and downs on and off the pitch, but I just couldn't give him an 8 for some of his games mid-season, even if I fully understand why his form lapsed.
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2008, 08:07:24 PM »

Generally I agree but there are a few I would differ on;

Reina - 9 - Golden glove award, fantastic distribution and shot stopping.
Skrtel -7 - with only being in for the 2nd half of the season I dont think a 9 is fair just yet so I would put him at a solid 7
Aurelio 7 - Not enough input for an 8 in my opinion. A couple more goals and assists would be good...
Leto - 5 - I felt he was rather overwhelmed when called upon and in no way can be given the same rating as lucas
Plessis - 6 - Looks class in the reserves but the first team looks a big step at the moment - evident especially in the Birmingham away game
I hate to say it but even Kuyt and Babel should be 7's in my opinion. Kuyt just didnt get on the score sheet enough although he was awesome in the champions league. Babel always seemed to more effective when coming on as a sub to kill teams off with his pace. Has started to use his left more rather than relying on his right so much - would love to see him in a more central role, scoring the type of goals he did against Chelsea in the CL !

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2008, 08:23:27 PM »

I saw this on another site so was wondering your thoughts on how our players have done this season.

Reina - 8, Class keeper, golden glove winner again and very few mistakes
Itandje - 5, Not involved much but concedes goals when he does play e.g. Havant & Waterloovile and Reading (CC)
Arbeloa - 7, More settled and solid this season
Finnan - 6, Injuries have plagued his season
Carragher - 8, Consistent as ever and played out of position for some games but did a good job, a negative is that he did give away a few penalties
Skrtel - 9, Cracking signing by Rafa and will fight with Agger for the CB place next season, unless Carra is at RB
Agger - 6, Not enough match action for Agger this season
Hyypia - 9, Called in to replace Agger and has been a revived sensation, a deserved new contract
Hobbs - 6, Played a few games but not really Prem standard yet
Riise - 6, Poor, no goals and defence had been questionable at times
Aurelio - 8, Much improved and more of an attacking threat
Insua - 6, Only seen in Man City game but one for the future
Pennant - 6, Not been picked enough but linked up with Crouchie in last few games, may leave in summer
Benayoun - 7, Good start to Anfield career, more expected from the yoss
Kuyt - 8, Found a new position, puts in a full shift but still needs more goals and some pace
Babel - 8, Inconsistent but the class has been shown and the potential of this kid is frightening
Leto - 7, Started some games early on and looked decent enough
Kewell - 5, Injuries again, not fulfilled his potential
Leiva - 7, Not quite adjusted to Prem League yet but it will come in time
Mascherano - 9, Stunning work ethic and integral part of our team, nice to see him score his first goal
Alonso - 7, Poor at times but regained some form late on, should not leave in summer
Plessis - 7, Promising youngster and more 1st team chances needed next season
Gerrard - 9, Excellent again, Torres has reformed his game and looking forward to seeing the deadly duo next season
El Zhar -  7, A talent, may need to go out on loan for some experience though
Voronin - 6, A burden most of the time, must be sold to Chavski for £30 million, he's worth every penny Roman
Crouch - 7, Good when involved but simply cannot get Rafa to pick him, most likely going in summer
Torres - 9, Fabulous player, settled in terrificly, his pace is frightening and finishing is lethal, given a class song by the Kop aswell

Any other players I have missed out on can be added

Comments please




Insua also had a good solid game at the back against spurs so I personally would give him a 7 because he made the step up to the 1st team so well
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2008, 08:25:56 PM »

Reina - 9
Itandje - 6,

Arbeloa - 8
Finnan - 6
Carragher - 8
Skrtel - 9
Hyypia - 8
Hobbs - 6
Riise - 4
Aurelio - 7
Insua - 7

Pennant - 5
Benayoun - 6
Kuyt - 6
Babel - 6
Leto - 6
Kewell - 4
Leiva - 6
Mascherano - 9
Alonso - 7
Plessis - 7
Gerrard - 8

El Zhar -  6
Voronin - 4
Crouch - 7
Torres - 10


Too many sixes... and not enough 9's.

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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2008, 08:34:43 PM »

Im a bit lost as Leto is being given the same rating as Babel, Lucas and Kuyt and yossi?

Kuyt made the best of a new position and did well in the CL especially. Babel scored goals although wasnt consistent enough, Yossi got hat tricks!!! and Lucas grew throughout the season. Leto was for me a let down - almost as much as Voronin...well no not that bad  Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2008, 08:47:04 PM »

Reina - 8 (third golden glove but never has much to do)
Riise - 4 (what a shocking season he's had)
Aurelio - 6 (only started playing well too late on)
Carragher - 8 (looks unfitter but always give his all)
Skrtel - 7 (did brilliant job since joining but only here half season)
Hyypia - 7 (has made a few mistakes but has been quite solid in some games)
Finnan - 6 (has been pretty average this season)
Arbeloa - 6 (he needs to sort his awareness out, been sloppy at times)
Mascherano - 9 (what a season he's had, he's everywhere and rarely disspoints)
Lucas - 6 (had some good games but most have been fairly average, expect him step up next season)
Alonso - 6 (his passing had not been great and takes too much time on the ball, average)
Gerrard - 8 (one of his better seasons, not his best but he's enjoyed a great link play with Torres)
Benayoun - 7 (when he's played he's looked pretty decent, should have played more)
Pennant - 6 (has been fairly average in the games he's played, only has crossing of the ball to offer)
Babel - 7 (have had some brilliant moments from Babel, has showed promise and will get better)
Kuyt - 6 (overrated and poor. scored 3 league goals this season, unecceptable)
Crouch - 6 (not done much when he's played, to me he's been pretty much average)
Voronin - 5 (looked decent in two games and the rest he looked pretty much average)
Torres - 10 (what a player and IMO the best player in the league this season. unstoppable!)

How anyone can rate Insua, Agger, Kewell or Leto is beyond my imagination. They've barely played enough games this season for the first team.
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2008, 09:40:34 PM »

The fact that the original poster didn't go below a rating of 5 for anyone doesn't really give a true refection on the gap between our best & worst players, I don't see how the gap between Torres & Kuyt can be measured as the same as the difference between Crouch & Voronin.
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2008, 11:32:09 AM »

Reina - 9
Itandje - 6,

Arbeloa - 8
Finnan - 7
Carragher - 8
Skrtel - 9
Hyypia - 8
Hobbs - 5
Riise - 4
Aurelio - 7
Insua - 7

Pennant - 6
Benayoun - 7
Kuyt - 7
Babel - 7
Leto - 5
Kewell - 4
Leiva - 7
Mascherano - 10
Alonso - 7
Plessis - 6
Gerrard - 9

El Zhar -  6
Voronin - 4
Crouch - 7
Torres - 10

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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2008, 11:54:00 AM »

Reina - 9 ,golden gloves again says it all
Itandje - 4 ,didnt play much and was poor when he did IMO

Arbeloa - 7 ,settled well this year, will have to step it up a level next year though
Finnan - 6
Carragher - 9  another brilliant season
Skrtel - 8  excellent plugged the hole at the back, major factor behind our strong end of season run
Hyypia - 8, what he lacks in pace he makes up for in his reading of the game. Thoroughly deserves his new deal
Riise - 4 chelsea semi final summed up his season
Aurelio - 6  still a touch in consistent, wasted far to many set pieces
Insua - 7

Pennant - 6  didnt play enough, but finished the season well
Benayoun - 6 incositent, he was mesmirising againist besiktas, but poor at times, if he can string some performances together could be a top class player
Kuyt - 7 what he lacked in goals he made up for in work
Babel - 7 has frightening potential and a great strike
Leto - 5  looked out of his league when he played
Kewell - 4
Leiva - 7 his performance againist inter gave me faith in his abilities, he will be better in the prem. next season
Mascherano - 9  probably the best holding midfielder in Europe now, surpassing Makelele, an unbelievable worker
Alonso - 6, injuries palgued him but showed his quality in distribution when he did play

Gerrard - 9 , 21 goals and a great relationship established with torres, Mr.Gerrard is Mr. consistent he is nearly always world class


Voronin - 3, he was F***ing sh*te
Crouch - 7, unlucky shoud have played more games, showed towards the end of the season he can still score
Torres - 10, the prefect first season, according to the record books, not one tap in anywhere ( pay attention fat boy) nuff said



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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2008, 02:19:54 PM »

Okay if anyone is bothered to read all of these, here we are...

Reina - 9, Golden Gloves as mentioned, but not the perfect ten as he's still prone to errors with crossing
Finnan - 7, Mr Consistent got a little inconsistent this season, but as solid a right back as you get, if not inspiring
Arbeloa - 7, Has filled in all across the defence and has been solid everywhere. Good games, bad games, a decent season for Arby
Carra - 8, Pours his heart out but is a little slow at times and can be exposed
Skrtel - 8, Has settled in very nicely. Has enough pace, and more than enough strength to cut the Premiership. Will be a force next year.
Agger - N/A, unfair to rate him, he's hardly had a game
Hyypia - 9, Inspired in the middle at times. Rarely exposed as he's been in the past couple of seasons due to his lack of pace. Great comeback for Sami, made up for the Finn.
Riise - 6, Ratings below this are unfair on Riise, who's been uninspired but not plain awful this season. I think the Chelsea incident has been taken out on him unfairly. Not good by his standards, but not Djimi Traore bad.
Aurelio - 7, Poor guy has too many injuries. I really think he looks the real deal when he's fit though. Beauty of a left boot and can tackle well. Good cover on the left.

Pennant - 6, Not enough games to rate higher. He's been okay.
Benayoun - 8, Thought he's been excellent when he's had the chance. How can you argue with his goals and assists? Great squad player.
Kuyt - 7, Hard to rate Dirky. I was gonna go for a 6 but then his work ethic brought up to 7. Okay, he works so hard for the ball, but if you can only do something with it 1/6 times that work is worthless.
Babel - 8, Rated 8 as he's had an impact in the second half of the season, has scored goals and looks extremely promising. I expect a 9 next season.
Kewell - 5, Didn't really play, can't rate him too much.
Lucas - 6, Looks a little lightweight, but can play a pass and works hard enough. I'll reserve judgement till I've seen more, perhaps he'll adapt to English football.
Mascherano - 9, Gotta love little Masch. Works so hard, and the sight of him tearing back to launch into a last ditch tackle is fantastic. He's also a driving force should he get forward, and we are a much stronger team with him in the lineup.
Alonso - 8, He's still a fantastic player but unfortunately injury has plagued him this season. Deserves a lot more credit than he gets though, he brings the whole team into a cohesive unit.
Gerrard - 10, Captain Fantastic was everywhere. You can't argue with 21 goals and that amount of assists this season. I think he's been overshadowed this year by players from other teams, and he's absent from the papers' Teams of the Season, but he's still been a force for us.

Voronin - 4, So so promising and it falls apart. Awful. He's like the Djimi Traore of strikers, without the gangly legs.
Crouch - 7, Good when he gets on the pitch. Perhaps should play more, but with this new system he's not ever gonna muscle Torres out, so perhaps it's time for him to move on. Whoever he plays for he'll contribute alot. Quality player.
Torres - 10, What else? Player of the Season without a shadow of a doubt. Legitimate claims to the best striker in the world, and set records this year. Let's hope he's Liverpools Number 9 till he retires. What a player.
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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2008, 02:33:59 PM »

Im a bit lost as Leto is being given the same rating as Babel, Lucas and Kuyt and yossi?

My ratings consider that little factor called value for money combined with corresponding delivery last season.
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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2008, 06:07:02 PM »

Reina - 8
Itandje - 6
Arbeloa - 7
Finnan - 6
Carragher - 7,
Skrtel - 8,
Agger - N/A
Hyypia - 8
Riise - 5
Aurelio - 7,
Pennant - 6,
Benayoun - 8,
Kuyt - 7 and a bit
Babel - 8
Kewell - 1
Leiva - 7,
Mascherano - 10
Alonso - 6,
Gerrard - 10
Voronin - 5,
Crouch - 7
Torres - 10
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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2008, 08:45:43 PM »

Reina - 8 - Vulnerable to corner kicks; but sharp reflexes
Itandje - 6 - Needs to grow

Arbeloa - 7 Does well on the right back; occasional flashes of brilliance.
Finnan - 7 As good as Arbeloa
Carragher - 8 Nuff Said
Skrtel - 9 Brilliant. Injury cost us the final
Hyypia - 7 Reliable
Hobbs - 6 ok
Riise - 6 Injury free, always available.
Aurelio - 7 Okay for now
Insua - 7 The best is yet to come. Shows signs of top level starter

Pennant - 7 okay
Benayoun - 7 okay
Kuyt - 7 okay
Babel - 7 Still playing out of position
Leto - 6 ok
Kewell - 3 Hell naw! didn't get well enough to earn his pay
Leiva - 6 Not impressed yet
Mascherano - 9 A revelation
Alonso - 7 Losing is touch
Plessis - 7 young and full of prospects
Gerrard - 9 The vertebrae column of the team

El Zhar -  6 ok
Voronin - 5 not fit
Crouch - 8 Ball control ace; super sub
Torres - 10 HE IS THE MAN


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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2008, 09:15:07 PM »

Reina - 9 - Golden Gloves again the best keeper in the prem IMO
Itandje - 4 - Reminds of dudek.... in a bad way

Arbeloa - 8 - Very good IMO solid and reliable in most cases
Finnan - 5 - Not seen enough good this year maybe on his way out
Carragher - 8 - A rather quiet season for carra not getting much praise but as always he was there when needed
Skrtel - 8 - For the length of time he has been here thats amazing I think he will be the next carra
Hyypia - 7 - Good old sami did his job when needed but just to slow to hold a regular place now
Riise - 3 - Just leave please while I still respect your previos performances
Aurelio - 8 - Injury plauged but one of my favourite player this season
Insua - 6 - Based on the latter games of the season he looks a very good player

Pennant - 7 - Good first half but never the same after the injury
Benayoun - 6 - Yossi.... megh thats all I can say unfortuantly
Kuyt - 8 - I dont care what many people think but Kuyt has been an absolute star in every game this year
Babel - 8 - Didnt agree with the initial fee but ive warmed to him and a very good first season
Leto - 4 - I dont see the point in him unfortuantly he's a winger who isnt that fast
Kewell - minus 1 - poor harry... did he even play this year... I dont care bye bye!
Lucas - 7 - Would have liked to see more of him but im very excited a very good prospect
Mascherano - 9 - One of the key men this year what a player!
Alonso - 7 - Would have been higher if he didnt dip in form mid way through but he's back to normal now
Plessis - 5 - Is this momo sissoko v2?Grin good but we have too many CM he wont be around much longer IMO
Gerrard - 10 - Absolutly brilliant, nando has been taking most of the credit but he wouldnt have nearly as much goals without stevie

El Zhar -  4 - Again good enough but dont see the point
Voronin - refusal to rate -
Crouch - 7 - Petes good for a goal now and then good enough season
Torres - 10 - I dont need to explain this rating
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2008, 10:43:10 PM »

Reina - 9 - Another great season for pepe!!
Itandje -6 - I liked what I saw of Itandje, but let in to many goals

Arbeloa - 8 - Great season, improved alot I think
Finnan - 6 - To many injurys this season, but when played he played well
Carragher - 9 - Played well at all times, Great player.
Skrtel - 7 - Only a 7 for me, played well but only played half a season.
Hyypia - 9 - O sami sami sami sami Hyypia, I thought he played well, didn't expect to play as much as he did though.
Hobbs - 6 - I think is one for the future, but need to more of him.
Riise - 6 - Wasn't to impressed with Riise this season, no goals, deffending poor. Not sure if he will be here next season though.
Aurelio - 8 - Improved alot this season for, I like what I saw.
Insua - 7 - Another one for the furture.

Pennant - 6 - When played I thought Pennant played well, but didnt play enough, I think he will go.
Benayoun - 6 - I liked Yossi from I saw, but didn't paly aswell as he did when he was at west ham.
Kuyt - 7 - Played out on the wing most of the time, did well for himself out I think.
Babel - 8 - Top player, Id like to see him more up front though, scored a fair few goals.
Leto - 6 - I don't rate Leto that much, thought he was a bit careless.
Kewell - 4 - Injured most of the season, going in summer.
Leiva - 7 - I rate lucas highly, expect him to play alot more next season.
Mascherano - 9 - What a season, world class player.
Alonso - 7 - Had a bad start, then got injured, but when he came back I though he looked to his old self agian but only 7. I think Alonso will stay!
Plessis - 6 - I think Plessis played well, hope to see more of him though next season.
Gerrard - 9 - Gerrard and Torres best players this season, I thought Gerrard was a top player, saw  more of the Gerrad I think.

El Zhar -  6 - A bright future for El Zhar
Voronin - 4 - Played well in pre-season but terrabile overall. I think he'll go in the summer.
Crouch - 7 - Shame didn't really see crouch play this season, think he a top player when he plays, I think he go in the summer.
Torres - 10 - For Torres was palyer of the season, Great signing Rafa!!
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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2008, 11:42:37 PM »

Reina - 7, Solid if unspectacular, looks worringly awkward under the cross and concedes too many at his near post.
Itandje - 4, Showed no reason as to why he should be 2nd to reina.
Arbeloa – 6, Slightly disappointed with his season. Showed so much promise at the back of last season.
Finnan - 6, Injuries have plagued his season
Carragher - 8, Consistent as ever and played out of position for some games but did a good job, a negative is that he did give away a few penalties
Skrtel - 8, Worrying start, but was awesome once settled, expect big things next season
Agger - 6, Not enough match action for Agger this season
Hyypia - 8, Looked out place in his first few games, but once he got back into the mould he was nothing short or awesome.
Hobbs - 6, Needs a season or two on loan, look forward to seeing evolve into a great player though
Riise - 4, Nothing short of awful. One of the worst seasons I have seen from a footballer, ever, cost us CL final
Aurelio - 7, Signs of class at times, but too many injuries, age not his side either
Insua - 6, This kid is quality now and will be world class sooner rather than later, expect more games next season
Pennant - 6, Showed signs of having something to offer.
Benayoun - 7, Got more than I expected from little Yossi. Changed the game against rovers when he came on. Two hat tricks aint bad either.
Kuyt - 6, Not what we want in a wide player and offers nothing upfront
Babel - 8, Play him upfront and watch the birth of a kop idol. Took his chances with class.
Leto - 5, Reminds me Bruno..awful1
Kewell - 5, I will forever look back at his anfield time and cry with what might have been
Leiva - 6, Signs of quality, but no where near the class of Alonso, too light weight as afraid to tackle.
Mascherano - 9, West Hams stupidity is our gain, seriously what were they doing with him?
Alonso - 7, Poor at times but regained some form late on, should not leave in summer
Plessis - 7, Promising youngster and more 1st team chances needed next season
Gerrard - 9, What does that make? 8 years of consitant awesomeness. Worlds best and most consistant midfielders.
El Zhar -  7, A talent, may need to go out on loan for some experience though
Voronin - 5, I will pay to have him sold
 
Crouch - 7, Good when involved but simply cannot get Rafa to pick him, most likely going in summer
Torres - 9, we bought the lad from sunny spain, torres torres…the rest is history. What more can you say?
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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2008, 01:57:50 PM »

Torres - 9, we bought the lad from sunny spain, torres torres…the rest is history. What more can you say?

Abit more if you've given him 9.
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2008, 02:46:21 PM »

Reina - 7.5
Itandje - 5,

Arbeloa - 8
Finnan - 6
Carragher - 8
Skrtel - 7
Hyypia - 7.5
Hobbs - 6
Riise - 6
Aurelio - 5
Insua - 6

Pennant - 6.5
Benayoun - 7
Kuyt - 6
Babel - 7
Leto - 4
Kewell - 3
Leiva - 7
Mascherano - 8
Alonso - 7
Plessis - 5
Gerrard - 8.5

El Zhar -  6
Voronin - 2
Crouch - 7
Torres - 9
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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2008, 03:59:23 PM »

Reina - 7, Solid if unspectacular, looks worringly awkward under the cross and concedes too many at his near post.

Torres - 9, we bought the lad from sunny spain, torres torres…the rest is history. What more can you say?


Doesn't concede that many ... hence golden glove x 3 (or is it six if in pairs??!!)

What would Nando need to do exactly to get a 10 in your books lad?

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