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« on: August 29, 2008, 08:16:52 AM »

My own opinion is he should follow JC and retire. It would be for the good of the club and the prospects of winning more silverware.

I also think all english based Liverpool players should rule themselves out of the England set up but that's never gonna happen!

Your thoughts?

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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2008, 08:20:34 AM »

Club & Country. He should continue to represent his country.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2008, 08:39:39 AM »

My own opinion is he should follow JC and retire. It would be for the good of the club and the prospects of winning more silverware.

I also think all english based Liverpool players should rule themselves out of the England set up but that's never gonna happen!

Your thoughts?

You should get more sleep !
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2008, 08:48:54 AM »

I don't think he should, but it's evident the English side seem to always play half-arsed. Today playing for England doesn't mean anything, it's as if it's like National Service and you've got to just turn up and stick it out.
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2008, 08:50:07 AM »

Thanks but I get enough sleep - think it's a valid enough question to ask in current climate.
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2008, 08:53:32 AM »

Thanks but I get enough sleep - think it's a valid enough question to ask in current climate.

Current Climate - explain the current climate to me !

So England are playing bad - so what !

Gerrard is at his peak and should be playing for his national team...if all players decided to retire from International duty then there wouldn't be a World Cup or European Championships.

So what is your valid point?  I for one enjoy watching the Euros and the World Cup and want England to succeed.
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2008, 08:57:13 AM »

That's not my argument - current climate is that the England team sleep walk games because a numberof players assume they will be picked no matter what.This hasn't changed with Fabio in charge.

All the team should be picked on form including Gerrard.
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2008, 09:08:47 AM »

To me the English side is just full of EPL big names, Capello needs to cut 30% of the squad and replace with younger more enthusistic squad because quite frankly...it isn't working. Maybe the World Cup will give them a kick up the arse.
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2008, 09:11:20 AM »

What I find interesting is that most people, (Not Us of course), shout that Gerrard is NO GOOD, and is crap and can not play with wonderful fat Frank, but now Stevie is injured, the head lines are GERRARD TO MISS ENGLAND GAMES! So? he is also going to miss Liverpools, f@@king games too! but because he was, in my opinion, the only one who tried against the Czech Republic, and when he went off, the game fell apart for England they are now concerned. It will be interesting to see how England play against the mighty Andora!
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2008, 09:19:18 AM »

no way
I have never seen england even challenge for a world cup so gerrard gone NO NO NO
id much rather see him captain than terry
seein GERRARD lift the world cup would be a dream cum true
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2008, 09:20:51 AM »

For liverpool interest I would give him the advise to retire but it will never happen 'cos he never won any silverware with england.
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2008, 09:40:51 AM »

I think its Lampard that should give up his international duty Stevie just needs a blow he could walk back in.
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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2008, 10:15:32 AM »

I think stevie should tell capello to play him were he wants to play because he is the best player in that team. Ive said that the best england midfield is:

LM: Young
RM: Bently
CM: Hardgreeves
CM: Gerrard(c)

Capello's team is, in all respect, just stupid and obviously doesnt work. Im not boasting, just stating that im sure most people would prefare my lineup rather than his
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2008, 10:22:29 AM »

Club & Country. He should continue to represent his country.
Yup Agree.Liverpool should have their represent players in England.
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2008, 10:27:18 AM »

Why on earth would we want Gerrard to retire, he's our only player that represents England. Carragher is a different story, he did it because he was sick of being 5th best all the time whereas Gerrard is ALWAYS in the starting line up. Would take something amazingly bad for Gerrard to even consider it himself tbh.
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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2008, 10:54:51 AM »

This is a stupid topic... why would he want to retire? I can understand if your never getting picked and are just travelling with the squad, but hes the best midfield player in this country. 
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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2008, 11:18:14 AM »

What I find interesting is that most people, (Not Us of course), shout that Gerrard is NO GOOD, and is crap and can not play with wonderful fat Frank, but now Stevie is injured, the head lines are GERRARD TO MISS ENGLAND GAMES! So? he is also going to miss Liverpools, f@@king games too! but because he was, in my opinion, the only one who tried against the Czech Republic, and when he went off, the game fell apart for England they are now concerned. It will be interesting to see how England play against the mighty Andora!

Absolutely agree, Gerrard is England's best player without a shadow of a doubt!
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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2008, 11:31:30 AM »

I don't see any sense is this thread to be honest. Speaking as a proud and passionate England fan I want the nation's best players, playing for country. Steven Gerrard is the best central midfielder ever to play for England in my opinion and for him to retire so young would crucify the three lions. It's often the case that it's Stevie who has to play out of position to accomodate Lampard, Barry, Hargreaves whoever. Many fans, mainly from other clubs, will tell you Gerrard doesn't perform for England but that is total bollocks. He was our joint top scorer in the last world cup and he plays well despite being shifted around. Not arsed about the captaincy and I think Terry is as good a choice as Stevie would of been.

But this country needs Gerrard in the starting 11. When he's missing, it's painfully obvious.
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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2008, 12:09:49 PM »

Its not only selfish to think so, but its also slightly insane side of things. What would even be the reason for such a decision, that I would love to know as Gerrard has an great liverpool history. Barring injury his legacy as it regards the England outfit will also increase, and in doing so enhances his Liverpool's status...
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« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2008, 01:37:55 PM »

Interesting to see so many people posting how they are proud to support England & that this thread is a stupid idea - why would Gerrard want to retire etc.

I too support my national team but I really struggle to see any passion for the shirt from the players on the pitch. The last time I did was the Euro'96 competition. Since then there have been flickers of passion in games but nothing that has ever been sustained.

It's also interesting to see that none of the 'playing for England is a waste of time brigade' have posted in this thread, funny how a post I made about the recent international that England played against the Czech Rep. got plenty of negative reaction here on the forum.

I still say that Gerrard may realistically consider this IF he wants to lift the Premiership trophy with Liverpool anytime soon.
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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2008, 01:42:48 PM »

Dedfinitely the worst thread this season! Gerrard is Englands best player IMO
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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2008, 02:05:09 PM »

Dedfinitely the worst thread this season! Gerrard is Englands best player IMO

Well maybe but I think you should leave the judging until you have started a few more topics yourself.

I agree he is the best midfielder England have got but that doesn't mean he can't retire because of that reason alone.
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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2008, 02:18:13 PM »

Interesting to see so many people posting how they are proud to support England & that this thread is a stupid idea - why would Gerrard want to retire etc.

I too support my national team but I really struggle to see any passion for the shirt from the players on the pitch. The last time I did was the Euro'96 competition. Since then there have been flickers of passion in games but nothing that has ever been sustained.

It's also interesting to see that none of the 'playing for England is a waste of time brigade' have posted in this thread, funny how a post I made about the recent international that England played against the Czech Rep. got plenty of negative reaction here on the forum.

I still say that Gerrard may realistically consider this IF he wants to lift the Premiership trophy with Liverpool anytime soon.

If you've failed to see passion mate then why single Gerrard out? Why not start a thread about England players in general and ask if they should ALL retire? Steven Gerrard is one of the few who does show passion for the shirt and you can see that when he plays. So to say "people don't show passion" then ask for one of the passionate ones to consider retiring from international duty is a total joke mate.
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« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2008, 02:29:04 PM »

If you've failed to see passion mate then why single Gerrard out? Why not start a thread about England players in general and ask if they should ALL retire? Steven Gerrard is one of the few who does show passion for the shirt and you can see that when he plays. So to say "people don't show passion" then ask for one of the passionate ones to consider retiring from international duty is a total joke mate.

I single out Gerrard as he alone represents England from Liverpool. I don't dispute that he shows passion for the England shirt but my point is that Liverpool may have a better chance of winning the premiership with Gerrard retired from England than if he stay an England player.
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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2008, 03:46:08 PM »

I don't see any sense is this thread to be honest. Speaking as a proud and passionate England fan I want the nation's best players, playing for country. Steven Gerrard is the best central midfielder ever to play for England in my opinion and for him to retire so young would crucify the three lions. It's often the case that it's Stevie who has to play out of position to accomodate Lampard, Barry, Hargreaves whoever. Many fans, mainly from other clubs, will tell you Gerrard doesn't perform for England but that is total bollocks. He was our joint top scorer in the last world cup and he plays well despite being shifted around. Not arsed about the captaincy and I think Terry is as good a choice as Stevie would of been.

But this country needs Gerrard in the starting 11. When he's missing, it's painfully obvious.


How can England be quality when they dont have Carragher in the centre of defence and a vice captain who isnt first choice captain for Manure!!
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« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2008, 03:48:55 PM »


How can England be quality when they dont have Carragher in the centre of defence and a vice captain who isnt first choice captain for Manure!!

When you have the European club defender of the season  lmao
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« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2008, 04:48:27 PM »

How can any thread in the Kop about Steven Gerrard be stupid if it involves football. He's our captain and he gets picked to play for England. Fine if people disagree about should he retire, but give your opinion like a few people have already rather than just saying it's a stupid thread.

Personally, I'm not a massive England fan. I'll watch any tournaments they play in if they get there and will be pleased if they win games in these tournaments. But I'm usually quite concerned if any of our lads pick up an injury in general. LFC comes first.

The way Gerrard seems to be a victim of his own talent because of his versatility, it makes it easier for him to be played out of his favoured position in the middle. But I'm sure he doesn't let this bug him as much as it bugs the media.

With the advantage of Gerrard being more fresh for us if he was to retire, then obviously we'd benefit. But I can't see that happening anytime soon. As long as he's getting picked to play for his country, he'll be happy. But I do agree one hundred percent that Gerrard and the rest of the England team should get picked on merit and to their strengths as well.
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« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2008, 07:12:36 PM »

Iam not an English supporter and therfore I dont care about how good or bad (mostly bad) Enerland are. However, it would be a shame for football if he retired from international football
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« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2008, 07:44:46 PM »

Well maybe but I think you should leave the judging until you have started a few more topics yourself.

I agree he is the best midfielder England have got but that doesn't mean he can't retire because of that reason alone.
I didnt realise I could not have an opinion on threads until I had started a certain amount. Cough! Quality not Quantity mate!
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« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2008, 08:15:25 PM »

its up to stevie and he is a bit of an england fanatic, he will konw when its time, hes 28 now and by the euros he. ll be 32 , I think he will retire after them
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