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John BrewinVerified
@JohnBrewinESPN

March 2009, Liverpool beat Real Madrid 4-0. That summer, Real signed Ronaldo and Benzema. Liverpool signed Glen Johnson and Alberto Aquilani



Definitely enough said, worth a plus that.
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What are the chances of getting 5 tickets outside the ground V Hull on Saturday please guys?
I've tried every avenue with no luck, i'm taking the missus and kids on the stadium tour Sunday and would love to get in a match with them.

YNWA
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The Kop / Re: Brendan Rodgers - Liverpool FC Manager
« Last post by Billy1 on Today at 07:31:08 AM »
If Billy 1 (by all accounts a respected poster on this forum) thinks its the worst he's seen Liverpool performing since the '50's, then let him think that, it's only his opinion.

Like you, I believe the football and performances along with results under Hodgson were far worse and obviously disagree with Billy 1's opinion because we were a lot worse under him than what we're seeing now - and that is saying something. In fact, come to think of it I've seen some f**king poor performances from Liverpool teams that have played under Dalglish '80's circa, (I got to watch us at WHL in 89/90 and even though we won the league that year, the one nil loss at Spurs to a Paul Stewart header was a very poor performance. Same again at Highbury that season I saw another insipid display from Barnes & co and it wasn't until Ronny Rosenthal came on that we began to look like a team and claim a 1-1 draw there), Souness, Evans, Houllier, Rafa (even now at Napoli his defense needs working on apparently as they currently sit 7th after 7 games with 9 goals conceded, Dalglish again and Rodgers have all gone through tough phases.

The performance against Madrid was a very poor one no doubt and while criticism of the manager and players is fair; performances like that will get the old knee jerking and you do get outlandish claims like 'that was the worst performance I've seen since the '50's. But I 'don't think' (I may stand corrected on that) Billy 1 has slaughtered Rodgers for the car he drives etc...


There is a lot of truth in your post beerbelly, it is indeed my opinion and I am fully entitled to that opinion. I did mention in an earlier post that the late great Bill Shankly came in for criticism and as you say  Kenny Dalglish  did  towards the end of his first term as our Manager. Most of the criticism directed towards Kenny was the signings he made. I also mentioned earlier that the only 2 managers I cannot recall getting criticised were Sir Bob Paisley and Joe Fagan. I have seen so many highs and lows at Liverpool Football Club and I am entitled to remember them as I so wish. If you think I am exaggerating on how things were in 1954/5  just imagine the uproar if we were to ever get relegated and finish 11th in the lower division, i wonder how many would jump ship.
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The Kop / Re: Should we bring in a defensive coach?...
« Last post by bad boy bubby on Today at 06:52:45 AM »

 ;D
Yeah I read that racer.

To summarise - we don't need a defensive coach or new coaching methods; just more time on the training pitch [cause the pesky Champions League eats into that time]... Sounds fair enough, I'd say.

So Brendan... last season?  :confused-smiley-013:
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The Kop / Re: Should we bring in a defensive coach?...
« Last post by David Wright on Today at 06:48:52 AM »
All successful sides in the past have always been built, on having a solid defence, whether bringing in a defensive coach is the answer, I am not so sure tbh, but something needs to be sorted very quickly, or else the side will end up further in the doldrums.
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John BrewinVerified
@JohnBrewinESPN

March 2009, Liverpool beat Real Madrid 4-0. That summer, Real signed Ronaldo and Benzema. Liverpool signed Glen Johnson and Alberto Aquilani

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It's more than just transfer fees.

Madrid pay top wages.
Have market exposure that get their stars more money and bonuses.
Have more money to spend on club infrastructure; medical, fitness etc.

We paid 26 for Lallana, they paid 20 for Kroos. Kroos however was never coming to us so we can't compare the two deals. Torres, Suarez, Alonso we got them before they moved to Barca, Real, Chelsea etc not the other way round. We can't pick and choose like Madrid do. We need to keep going along the lines of the academy and picking up Sterlings or Lallana's or COutinho's and reinvest that money when and if they leave,WITHOUT becoming a feeder club like Ajax or Everton.

Secondly, need to address the issue of our defensive shape. It's not enough to press to get possession because we don't keep possession like Barca used to. Our shape w is sometimes so bad it looks like under 8's. It's ok when you are attacking or winning but when good teams play us we will be punished. I think Brendan can fix this, he is willing to adapt but we need to get moving. Sterling, Lallana, Coutinho and Sturridge are great. We need to compliment them with another top CM and a top defender or two. Most of all we need to sort out our tactical awareness without the ball.

agree on the salary.  but much like transfer fees... the weekly wages we pay the chronic bench warmerscould go towards the salary of a top player.forget Suarez's amazing scoring talent.. what I have said time and time again is his ability to play every single game in the same season at a world class level.  imo... suarez is like 2 players with what he can handle in terms of workload. 

but yes, we need to get in better players.  top players like to play with top players.  a group of top players together makes a top team.  if we don't start bringing in proven quality, the likes of sterling will leave us... we will become a feeder club
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The Olympia / Re: The Count to a million Thread
« Last post by TheRedPanda on Today at 06:22:34 AM »
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The Kop / Re: Should we bring in a defensive coach?...
« Last post by bad boy bubby on Today at 06:09:35 AM »
Not a chance Brendan will compromise on his philosophy.

I don't know Si - I seem to remember we initially played sterile, tippy-tappy, possession based, football. Something which changed drastically, along with our results, the same season. Maybe that was a "change"; I don't know but...

That's the thing - "philosophy" is such a vague word; without a definitive description it could mean anything to anyone mate. What does it mean to you: what exactly is Brendan's philosophy Si?

Are there separate philosophies for football and the profile of players we buy in, for example?

Couldn't it just be that Brendan has compromised, before and often but we just haven't realised it because no one actually knows what the "philosophy" is?

Nah Si... Brendan will compromise (or adapt) to 'survive' - he always has, in my opinion. The alternative is to sail along in the hope everything will sort itself out and I just don't believe he's that daft. 8)
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The Kop / Re: Brendan Rodgers - Liverpool FC Manager
« Last post by Beerbelly on Today at 05:46:50 AM »
Hang on billy, you said we were playing the worst football since the 50s.

I am saying we are not - we have seen far worse in the last 4 years than currently. Surely Hodgson's reign was the worst since the 50s, NOT this form currently.

If Billy 1 (by all accounts a respected poster on this forum) thinks its the worst he's seen Liverpool performing since the '50's, then let him think that, it's only his opinion.

Like you, I believe the football and performances along with results under Hodgson were far worse and obviously disagree with Billy 1's opinion because we were a lot worse under him than what we're seeing now - and that is saying something. In fact, come to think of it I've seen some f**king poor performances from Liverpool teams that have played under Dalglish '80's circa, (I got to watch us at WHL in 89/90 and even though we won the league that year, the one nil loss at Spurs to a Paul Stewart header was a very poor performance. Same again at Highbury that season I saw another insipid display from Barnes & co and it wasn't until Ronny Rosenthal came on that we began to look like a team and claim a 1-1 draw there), Souness, Evans, Houllier, Rafa (even now at Napoli his defense needs working on apparently as they currently sit 7th after 7 games with 9 goals conceded, Dalglish again and Rodgers have all gone through tough phases.

The performance against Madrid was a very poor one no doubt and while criticism of the manager and players is fair; performances like that will get the old knee jerking and you do get outlandish claims like 'that was the worst performance I've seen since the '50's. But I 'don't think' (I may stand corrected on that) Billy 1 has slaughtered Rodgers for the car he drives etc...
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