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      Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread

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      mcarz
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7268: Feb 24, 2015 05:22:12 pm
      As you laughed off his suggestion that Mourinho may be the greatest Manager by the time he retires, I was trying to state the fact that he was only trying to say that Mourinho may be the greatest manager of all time in terms of things he has won by the time he retires and not generalizing him as  the greatest manager .

      He's the manager I hate/hated most in world football but I can't see Mourinho ever winning more than Ferguson did at United.
      Mad4LFC
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      Reply #7269: Feb 24, 2015 06:30:04 pm
      He's the manager I hate/hated most in world football but I can't see Mourinho ever winning more than Ferguson did at United.

      Slur Alex would kill for Maureen's record in Europe. He's still behind Sir Bob on that front as well.
      mcarz
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      Reply #7270: Feb 24, 2015 09:45:19 pm
      Slur Alex would kill for Maureen's record in Europe. He's still behind Sir Bob on that front as well.

      Bit awkward when Mauren and Slur both have the same amount of Champions League titles and Slur has one more UEFA Cup...

      Anyway, it's not about them two clowns. Long live Sir Rafa ;)
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      Reply #7271: Feb 24, 2015 09:57:44 pm
      "Before Rafa took over Chelsea were in the title race but failed to challenge in the end"
      Chelsea had 24 points from 12 games when Rafa took over from di Matteo. It's 2ppg, extroplate that over 38 games and you get 76 points. In the end, Chelsea finished with 75 points and the Europa League trophy. Statistically their league form didn't decline nor improve, so it all highlights the issue that no team can be determined to be "in a title race" after merely 12 games, especially a team that finished outside the top 4 in the previous season.

      "Napoli finished 2nd in Serie A before Rafa took over but finished 3rd in his first season"
      What a lot of people don't know is that Napoli achieved a record points total (over 38 games) the season before Rafa took over. That record was 78. In Rafa's first season, he emulated that points record and won the domestic cup. Whether their league position was different or not, he equalled the club's record points total and won a trophy, despite selling their best player Thomas Edison Cavani.

      "Rafa has failed to win the World Club Cup twice!" [rinse:repeat]
      It's really ironic reading this over and over again because, the same people who post this also undermine the Italian Super Cup victory he achieved late last year in Doha. These "charity" trophies really are a curse; it seems you're damned whether you win it or not.

      The final point I'd like to raise is Rafa's "inability" to win a league title for x number of years. Maybe this season under Brendan can show people that managing a squad over multiple competitions is not easy by any means. It's been so long that we almost forget just how deep we used to go in European competitions and on top of that ensuring we qualified for the Champions League every season bar Rafa's last. Considering the financial constraints, what Rafa achieved was remarkable and it is fascinating to now see how Rodgers copes over the next few seasons.

      At the end of it all, Rafa got 2 major trophies in 6 years for us. Approaching his third full year, Brendan has a good chance of picking up his first. Let's hope he does it!
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      Reply #7272: Feb 24, 2015 10:30:49 pm
      Bit awkward when Mauren and Slur both have the same amount of Champions League titles and Slur has one more UEFA Cup...

      In more than twice as many years as a manager though, to be fair.
      vulcan_red
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7273: Feb 24, 2015 10:55:24 pm
      Mourinho has won a league in 4 countries, whatever you think of him that commands respect, and would if it was someone else.

      Pellegrini doesn't win a league in Spain with Villareal or Malaga. He wins a league first go with City.
      Manicini won the league with city and Ancellotti did the double in his first year with Chelsea. None of these three enjoyed anywhere near the financial advantage of what Mourinho did with Chelsea who were rewriting the record books in terms of spending in those first 3 years.

      He won the league in Spain? 1 out of three with how much spent before he got there and how much while he was there. To do what? Beat Barcelona over 2 games because no other team in La Liga could match Madrids resources.
      He did nothing magical there except ruin Madirs reputation.

      Rafa was up against with us, especially after H&G turned up. His CL record worked against him in the league as he had to compete on two major fronts with no where near the squad of Chelsea or Even United and Arsenal.

      Most of all I loved what he did for us at that time. And we beat CHelsea in two CL semi finals and thats what hurts Chelsea fans the most.
      KopiteLuke
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7274: Feb 25, 2015 01:14:00 am
      A legend.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0jvOZN8Fnk#

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4aJp4WeEcA#

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRllRTMU51s#

      His managerial attributes should not be diminished on this board especially.
      The circumstances he had to endure should not be diminished, on this board especially.

      A great and I'll always love him for what he gave us and what he understood and respected about us.
      Billy1
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7275: Feb 25, 2015 06:10:51 am
      That is a great post Luke, thank you. :kop5cf8koxp6:
      stuey
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7276: Feb 25, 2015 07:45:24 am
      That is a great post Luke, thank you. :kop5cf8koxp6:

      Ditto, good man yaself Luke.
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7277: Feb 26, 2015 04:22:55 am
      That is a great post Luke, thank you. :kop5cf8koxp6:

      Np Billy :)


      Cheers Stuey.
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      Reply #7278: Feb 26, 2015 08:02:51 am
      Rafa, Rafael, Rafa, Rafael, Rafa, Rafael, Rafael Benitez
      Barnes10
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7279: Feb 27, 2015 11:24:48 am
      Man City need a manager like Benitez when they play the likes of Barcelona.

      Pelligrini is woeful in the Champions League.
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7280: Mar 12, 2015 08:14:33 pm
      Rafa will always be a far superior manager, to the so called "Special one". Who would never work under the constraints of the two muppets who took over the reins of the club, before FSG stepped in.
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7281: Mar 12, 2015 11:14:53 pm
      With him turning down an extension to stay at Napoli I wonder if he's been sounded out or tapped up for another club already?
      shabbadoo
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7282: Mar 13, 2015 12:39:55 am
      With him turning down an extension to stay at Napoli I wonder if he's been sounded out or tapped up for another club already?

      2 clubs close to home are in for him ;)
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7283: Mar 13, 2015 12:42:04 am
       Scally don't you dare mention Liverpool or you will get slaughtered, ;D
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      Reply #7284: Mar 13, 2015 07:47:56 am
      2 clubs close to home are in for him ;)

      Everton and City?
      stuey
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7285: Mar 13, 2015 08:12:45 am
      Man City need a manager like Benitez when they play the likes of Barcelona.

      Pelligrini is woeful in the Champions League.

      Pellegrini is rumoured to be watching the situation with the axe gonna fall at Citeh.
      srslfc
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7286: Mar 13, 2015 09:18:12 am
      2 clubs close to home are in for him ;)

      He'll never go to Tranmere.
      shabbadoo
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7287: Mar 13, 2015 09:19:49 am

      ;D

      Never know just to prove a point that he ain't no cheque book manager.



      City yes but not Everton ;)
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      Reply #7288: Mar 13, 2015 09:29:59 am
      ;D

      Never know just to prove a point that he ain't no cheque book manager.


      City yes but not Everton ;)

      The resurrection of Chester then
      shabbadoo
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7289: Mar 13, 2015 09:40:28 am
      Scally21
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      Re: Rafael Benitez Discussion Thread
      Reply #7290: Mar 13, 2015 10:16:33 am
      Scally don't you dare mention Liverpool or you will get slaughtered, ;D

      Well, it was mentioned Billy mate when he turned down this recent contract, so you never know :f_tongueincheek: ;D ;D


      Didn't Pellegrini's agent put his man in the window for the Napoli job this week in the event things went tits up for him at City? A possible straight swap maybe!


      No way. He seemed to like playing at Wrexham. He'll be able to wear his jeans again too!

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