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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2898: Dec 14, 2014 04:58:30 pm
      The combination of Gerrard, Hendo and Allen oh dear!
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2899: Dec 14, 2014 05:28:48 pm
      What a sack of sh*t this lad is on the right.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2900: Dec 14, 2014 08:04:07 pm
      He was gutless - for most of the match he resorted to backwards passes and refused to take a risk.

      The guy isn't capable, and is not the man to lead us in the future.

      There's got to be concerns if he is considered the best leader after Gerrard. We are in the shits if this is the case.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2901: Dec 14, 2014 08:07:51 pm
      He was gutless - for most of the match he resorted to backwards passes and refused to take a risk.

      The guy isn't capable, and is not the man to lead us in the future.

      There's got to be concerns if he is considered the best leader after Gerrard. We are in the shits if this is the case.

      Getting all too tired of seeing the obligatory "F**k off" at himself after shocking efforts.

      Another one who shouldn't be starting games at the moment.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2902: Dec 14, 2014 08:31:41 pm
      Getting all too tired of seeing the obligatory "f**k off" at himself after shocking efforts

      If only he would take his own advice.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2903: Dec 14, 2014 08:54:12 pm
      should be offloaded when we still can get a good ammount of money on him
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2904: Dec 14, 2014 09:33:04 pm
      should be offloaded when we still can get a good ammount of money on him

      He's a decent squad player but should be dropped until he finds a bit of form.
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      Reply #2905: Dec 14, 2014 09:43:26 pm
      I still have faith in Hendo and with the right position and system (diamond pressing game), he'll be back to his best, box-box and pressing. He's not and will never be a ball playing midfielder but when used right, he's one of those player that can dominate without the ball.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2906: Dec 14, 2014 09:57:36 pm
      Getting all too tired of seeing the obligatory "f**k off" at himself after shocking efforts.

      Another one who shouldn't be starting games at the moment.

      he has definitely peaked since he was getting all the plaudits.
      We have such a downbeat bunch of players they need a complete lift a night out with Mario perhaps
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2907: Dec 14, 2014 10:12:00 pm
      I don't know what to make of Henderson.

      He flatters to deceive with all of his energy.  He works really hard, that's for sure, but I would think that working hard would be a prerequisite for playing at our club, not some sort of unique trait.

      What is sorely lacking is the quality.  And the bottle.  He seems to have reverted back to the way he was playing for essentially the first two years he was with us; backwards and sideways passing, no positional awareness etc.  He sure does run around a lot.  But we could get Mo Farah to do that for much less money if we just need someone to run around.  You have to have the quality as well.

      He's not the only one with this issue mind; Allen is even worse, Stevie is totally anonymous.  But Henderson is heralded as the next captain yet he seems to have misplaced his bollocks and his quality. 

      just another problem on the growing list.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2908: Dec 21, 2014 06:13:12 pm
      My god he was f**king sh*t today. How many times did he pass back from advanced positions YET AGAIN. We are hardly creating chances because he lacks any form of creativity at all now - no wonder Rodgers wanted him sold from the off.

      Embarrassing that he is the vice-captain. I was praiseworthy of him last year thought he had really turned a corner, but when the going gets tough, he's nowhere to be seen and he has reverted to type once again.

      A spineless coward. If you don't have the mentality (or the f**king technical ability as seen) then you have no right to be playing for this club. Fans pay lots of money for this type of performance? You have no right playing with 'no confidence' - I've said it before, I would be kicking lumps of sh*t out of every player if I was even on a 10th of his wage. Confidence? Don't talk to me about confidence with the lifestyle footballers have. Lord above, footballers really have it hard don't they?

      Shape up or ship out Jordan - if this carries on with Henderson I'll personally drive him to the ferry and send him down the Mersey.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2909: Dec 21, 2014 07:09:20 pm
      Do we really have to go over the fact that he's not a right sided player again?

      This is why he struggled to settle in the first place under Kenny. I specifically remember arguing against people that Henderson was a CM an not a wide player, and I'll make that argument again all day long. Only difference is now he's our vice captain and needs to step up a little, however he should be given a chance to do that in the centre of midfield.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2910: Dec 21, 2014 07:45:28 pm
      The guy has the first touch of a rapist and the footballing brain of my nanna. Absolutely does my head in at times.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2911: Dec 22, 2014 03:41:44 am
      My god he was f**king sh*t today. How many times did he pass back from advanced positions YET AGAIN. We are hardly creating chances because he lacks any form of creativity at all now - no wonder Rodgers wanted him sold from the off.

      Embarrassing that he is the vice-captain. I was praiseworthy of him last year thought he had really turned a corner, but when the going gets tough, he's nowhere to be seen and he has reverted to type once again.


      Henderson is massively overrated but I think it's a bit harsh to get on him when he's at RB or RWB.  It's not his position and Rodgers is just looking for a stop gap.

      By all means have a go at Henderson for his cowardly performances as a midfielder---there's more than enough in that area to criticize.  but it seems a bit hard on him to call him out for his performances when he's out of his "best" position.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2912: Dec 22, 2014 09:59:40 am
      Offers sweet F**k all as a wingback I'd rather take a punt on Manquillo playing there (he is a fullback after all) and having Henderson on the bench as a central midfield option. We shouldn't have any passengers in this team.
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      Reply #2913: Dec 22, 2014 11:36:49 am
      Think Hendo is doing a decent job at FB. Attacking wise, not as creative as Markovic on the other side, but he's more solid. Good engine and all that malarky about being fit. Playing out of position, so obviously ain't going to look as comfortable as normal.

      Stevie really likes looking for him with long balls but risky as shown against the Arse.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2914: Dec 22, 2014 11:46:20 am
      No point criticising him playing in a position that is alien to him, he does not have the ability to go past a defender or the technique to take a pass in one go hence why once he gets the ball under control it gets cut inside or back to a defender.
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      Reply #2915: Dec 22, 2014 11:07:34 pm
      Wasted as a wing back.
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      Reply #2916: Dec 22, 2014 11:11:38 pm
      Seriously needs to shape up this guy. He's had an awful season and had to buck up his ideas. After a great season last year and being appointed vice captain on the back of it you'd expect better than for him to return to his 2011 self.

      Simply not good enough Jordan and a waste of a good starting position at the moment.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2917: Dec 23, 2014 11:35:40 am
      I said a few months ago that our "established" players were the ones we ought to be criticising, and not the new signings. Chief culprit I said was Henderson who had at that time been woeful I felt. Needless to say I was rounded on by many, but I think he's actually got worse since then.
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      Reply #2918: Dec 23, 2014 12:04:28 pm
      I feel for Jordan.. Some will always go at him as a first point of call when things aren't going well.

      My take on him is that he is a good player, not a world beater by any means but a good solid player, the type that most top clubs have in their squads that are undervalued because they aren't the standout players but who are very strong squad options and very reliable for their managers. Is he a Gerrard at his peak? Of course not, is he. Fabregas, no.. Is he a Keane or whoever.. No but he does jobs that they didn't, I hear Carrick get sh*t from Utd fans all the time which I don't get..

      Jordan is a go to player for the manager to get his message into the pitch, he doesn't call Stevie over or others, it's Hendo, that's why he made him vice captain (for the record I think he will only stay that and never move on to main captain)

      He has struggled this year too, yes but most have, he has struggled in a struggling midfield and with no real movement in front of him to get beyond.

      I hear all the stuff about him being shifted about and doesn't have a specific role like that's a bad thing.. I assure you that in this level of football and any good level that these types are invaluable to managers, that only the better technical players can switch roles and look comfortable.. I always insisted that you could tell how good Stevie was early on because he could play any role on the pitch and it look natural to him, that he was the best right back we had, the best right mid, the best second striker, the best bursting cm as he was so talented..
      Similar with Raheem, he can play wide, as a 10, as a forward, he even went left wing back Saturday and had played rb before and he looks assured in any role.
      Hendo can play numerous positions and be comfortable, can adjust and play there because he gets the game, he has a great game understanding.

      Other players don't have it, it doesn't make them 'lesser' players in my mind if they only specialise in one role but they don't have the ability or game intelligence to play other roles and not look a fish out of water.. And maybe Hendo doesn't always put a motm performance in in those other roles he very rarely looks uncomfortable and he has probably suffered from nailing one role by being the adjustable one that managers can put in a different role and know he will do a solid job for them.

      He has done a solid job for me at rwb, anyone who had watched Manquillo live know how raw he is and I'd rather Hendo there than him..

      For me of always have a 'Henderson' type in the squad.. They are invaluable in the modern game
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      Reply #2919: Dec 23, 2014 12:25:03 pm
      Like BR doesn't become a bad manager in 3 months, don't think Hendo becomes a bad player either. Though a regular starter for us last season in our best dig at the title in years, he attracted criticism even then - so not surprised he's getting more now. Crucially missing in the season run in due to suspension, we missed him vs Chelsea and Palace. Know he divides opinion, but he doesn't stop trying, gets forward well, has an better eye for goal than many and be solid in a few positions. BR obviously rates him to give him the vice-captaincy, so must think he has something about him too.
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      Re: Jordan Henderson Player Thread
      Reply #2920: Dec 23, 2014 12:27:41 pm
      Is right Jon, the way he literally gets his head down in the game and applies himself to the best of his ability typifies his spirit.

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