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      Stewart Downing (Liverpool -> West Ham)

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      harrydunn08
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #115: Jul 27, 2011 09:53:16 pm
      An option I've not really seen discussed is:

                           Reina
      Johnson    Carra   Agger   L.B
                           Lucas
           Gerrard    Suarez   Downing
                     Kuyt     Carroll


      Converting to a:

               Gerrard Lucas
      Kuyt       Suarez   Downing
                    Carroll

      When off the ball, saving Gerrards legs and utilizing Dirk's engine.

      Not really had a chance to play it and obviously cover in the striking position would prove a problem then with the 3 main on the field, just a thought.

      It looks good, but the problems I see with it are:

      1.  No backup striker to come off the bench!
      2.  Charlie Adam - I think Kenny intends to have him fully involved in the starting 11.
      3.  Jordan Henderson - Basically the same as Adam.

      I think the players from last season whose starting spots are in danger are Lucas, Dirk, Raul, and Maxi.  However, I'm sure Kenny will field the strongest side he has at his disposal, regardless of who he has signed or the expectations he has for them. 
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #116: Jul 27, 2011 10:53:29 pm
      I know what you mean and did think about it just I couldn't see where Henderson fits yet. I do rate him and think he'll turn out to be a really good signing for us but at the moment I think he'll be used to fill in the blanks so to speak as he can play accross three positions in midfield. Adam I do feel will be used in a similar sense on the left hand side and to allow other players to have a rest, I don't think he'll have a full time role in the first 11, could of course be wrong but last season our bench always looked thread-bare.

      I also raised the point about no recognised striker to come from the bench I feel it is a place we definitely need to strengthen as Ngog is clearly not quality enough to be relied upon. Rumours about Shane Long and Rodellega, not convinced by these either so I don't have the answer to that one, hopefully Kenny does. Kinda de-railing the Downing thread here though so apologies for that.
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #117: Jul 27, 2011 11:33:00 pm
      If we don't sign anyone else, I can see this being the first XI with Gerrard replacing Adam or Hendo at times (depending on fitness) or in some home games, Adam dropping in to replace Lucas with Gerrard playing in the middle.

                              Reina

         Kelly     Carragher  Agger    Johnson
                             
                              Lucas
           
       Henderson         Adam        Downing

                          Suarez
                                  Carroll
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #118: Jul 27, 2011 11:35:07 pm
      If we don't sign anyone else, I can see this being the first XI with Gerrard replacing Adam or Hendo at times (depending on fitness) or in some home games, Adam dropping in to replace Lucas with Gerrard playing in the middle.

                              Reina

         Kelly     Carragher  Agger    Johnson
                             
                              Lucas
           
       Henderson         Adam        Downing

                          Suarez
                                  Carroll
      I'd have Kuyt ahead of Henderson but with those players, we would still play:

                              Reina

             Kelly   Carragher  Agger  Johnson

                            Lucas
                       Henderson Adam

                Suarez    Carroll   Downing
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #119: Jul 29, 2011 08:32:41 am
                                 Reina

        Johnson   Carragher   Agger   Aurelio/New LF

                                Lucas
                   Gerrard            Aquilani

        Suarez                                    Downing
                           Carroll/Kuyt

      -----------------------------------------------
      Doni                   =>
      Kelly/Flanagan    => Johnson
      Insua/Robinson   => Aurelio
      Skrtel                 => Agger
      Soto/Ayala          => Carra
      Adam/Spearing    => Lucas
      Adam/Henderson => Gerrard
      Adam/Miereless   => Aquilani
      Maxi/J.Cole         => Suarez/Downing
      N'Gog                 => Carroll/Kuyt

      A decent team.
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #120: Jul 30, 2011 07:56:09 am
                                 Reina

        Johnson   Carragher   Agger   Aurelio/New LF

                                Lucas
                   Gerrard            Aquilani

        Suarez                                    Downing
                           Carroll/Kuyt

      -----------------------------------------------
      Doni                   =>
      Kelly/Flanagan    => Johnson
      Insua/Robinson   => Aurelio
      Skrtel                 => Agger
      Soto/Ayala          => Carra
      Adam/Spearing    => Lucas
      Adam/Henderson => Gerrard
      Adam/Miereless   => Aquilani
      Maxi/J.Cole         => Suarez/Downing
      N'Gog                 => Carroll/Kuyt

      A decent team.


      I quite like that team apart from i highly doubt Carroll would be back up to Kuyt (i know you're not saying them for definite). Left back should have been our second priority but obviously trying to see how many centre midfielders we can possibly get into the squad has been the main aim of this summer so far :f_tongueincheek:
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #121: Aug 01, 2011 09:36:30 pm
      My opinion on Stewart hasn't changed - An excellent footballer with a great future at our club. I'm sure he'll show us exactly why Kenny was trying so hard to get him and win over those who were sure he'd flop.
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #122: Aug 01, 2011 09:39:31 pm
      My opinion on Stewart hasn't changed - An excellent footballer with a great future at our club. I'm sure he'll show us exactly why Kenny was trying so hard to get him and win over those who were sure he'd flop.

      Think it'll be like trying to nail a jelly to the wall trying to pin down the doubters.

      Happy to have him, good player!
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #123: Aug 01, 2011 09:43:01 pm
      Think it'll be like trying to nail a jelly to the wall trying to pin down the doubters.

      I don't know about that - I've already witnessed a change in opinion from some. Keep it going Stewart.
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #124: Aug 01, 2011 09:53:14 pm
      Good ball in for Carroll. Promising signs that he will lay on a lot of goals for Carroll and will hopefully prove me wrong about thinking we shouldn't have got him.
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #125: Aug 01, 2011 09:59:37 pm
      Very very impressed so far, he definitely has settled quicker than the other new boys.
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #126: Aug 01, 2011 10:18:42 pm
      Looks brilliant, was by far are best player in today's game, can't wait to see what him and Suarez can do together, he is so deadly on the right, if Johnson can sort out his defensive side of the game, on the right hand side with Downing and Johnson we would be deadly, not too mention the back post crosses he could drift to Carrolls head, hope to see big things from this lad.
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #127: Aug 01, 2011 10:55:14 pm
      Good ball in for Carroll. Promising signs that he will lay on a lot of goals for Carroll
      Indeed. Loved the way he scrambled back to get the ball and then effortlessly pinged a cross up to Carroll. And Carroll did a great job of knocking it down and banging it home.  :)
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #128: Aug 02, 2011 01:12:31 pm
      Played great yesterday, hope to see more of it.
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #129: Aug 02, 2011 01:33:36 pm
      He's what we have been crying out for since Digger. I'm excited to see him play for us and I can imagine he'll be one of the first on the teamsheet every week.
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #130: Aug 06, 2011 03:44:58 pm
      Can't wait to see him wreak havoc today.
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #131: Aug 06, 2011 10:25:14 pm
      Downing was the real creative spark in the side today IMO, put in some dangerous crosses, got past his marke into good crossing positions and his pace was a real assist to our team.

      Hopefully Carroll can get onto the end of his crosses soon. Sunderland next week, would be a fantastic time to get that partnership in full swing.
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #132: Aug 07, 2011 08:38:00 am
      How good has he been in pre-season. Finally we have a winger capable of cutting on from the left or floating out and crossing pin point in to the box.

      Great start.
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #133: Aug 07, 2011 11:48:41 am
      Very creative yesterday & linked up with Aurelio very well.
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #134: Aug 07, 2011 02:29:33 pm
      Has really impressed me so far, he was a joy to watch yesterday. Keep it up and i can see £20m being a bargain.
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #135: Aug 07, 2011 02:31:41 pm
      Great game by Stewart, head and shoulders above the rest!
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #136: Aug 07, 2011 09:04:00 pm
      Thought he was brilliant yesterday. There will be games we've been frustrated but his width and pace will be vital.
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      Re: Stewart Downing Player Thread
      Reply #137: Aug 07, 2011 09:17:36 pm
      Absolutely, teams trying to park the bus v's us will have a much harder task this season and Downing will be a big reason behind that.

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