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      Sebastian Coates Player Thread (Liverpool > Sunderland)

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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #644: Jul 29, 2014 01:20:06 am
      Haha I meant Lovren, not Illori! Was in his player thread so had his name on my mind.
      ;D
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #645: Jul 31, 2014 02:49:15 am
      Was nice he got a good run out.  Only made 1 mistake that I can remember off hand, but he's looking good after being sidelined with that injury for so long.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #646: Jul 31, 2014 03:29:58 am
      He was outstanding tonight, and was last game as well. 

      Looks like a totally different player.

      Would love to see him go on loan to a side in the league where he'll get 20+ games.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #647: Aug 01, 2014 01:58:10 am
      Looked very good against Man City. Will be extremely tough for him to find a game though. We have 7 first team CB's.

      Lovren
      Sakho
      Skrtel
      Agger
      Toure
      Coates
      Ilori

      I think Toure could be off and he would be my first choice to leave. I think Ilori should go back out on loan. That brings us to 5 first choice CB's. Not sure if that is the right number or if 4 would be a better number.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #648: Aug 03, 2014 04:13:26 am
      Really no reason for him to be dropped against the Mancs.  Or against Dortmund for that reason.

      Been our best CB this pre-season.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #649: Aug 03, 2014 06:27:37 am
      My only issue with Coates is how slow he is at the turn.
      When he gets up to speed he is fine but he is very sluggish from the off.
      Not a terrible thing when combined with a faster partner.
      I too have been impressed by him in preseason.
      My hope is that he either he stays and is considers one of the 4 options at CB or is sent on loan to a prem club like villa to get as much game time and experience as he can.
      To sell him will be yet another example of how mostly our prior buying of young players has been a huge failure
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #650: Aug 03, 2014 08:09:33 am
      Looked very good against Man City. Will be extremely tough for him to find a game though. We have 7 first team CB's.

      Lovren
      Sakho
      Skrtel
      Agger
      Toure
      Coates
      Ilori

      I think Toure could be off and he would be my first choice to leave. I think Ilori should go back out on loan. That brings us to 5 first choice CB's. Not sure if that is the right number or if 4 would be a better number.

      It seems to me that it'll be Agger to go and not Toure (the latter has been confirmed by Brendan). I think it'd be unfair on Coates for him to be completely frozen out after his performances during pre-season. We seem to be stacked at centre back and I think our main 4 will be Skrtel, Lovren, Sakho and Toure. Coates will probably end up out on loan like others have suggested. Personally, I'd keep Coates and get rid of Toure.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #651: Aug 03, 2014 08:16:13 am
      My pick would be:
      1st pick: Lovren and Sakho.
      2nd: Skrtel and Coates.

      Sell agger. Loan illori. Sell toure.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #652: Aug 03, 2014 08:51:05 am
      My pick would be:
      1st pick: Lovren and Sakho.
      2nd: Skrtel and Coates.

      Sell agger. Loan illori. Sell toure.

      My issue there is Skrtel and Coates are too similar. If you have faith in Coates as harsh as it sounds I think you consider selling Skrtel, maybe not this window but in the next 12 months while he still has value
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #653: Aug 03, 2014 01:42:30 pm
      My only issue with Coates is how slow he is at the turn.
      When he gets up to speed he is fine but he is very sluggish from the off.
      Not a terrible thing when combined with a faster partner.
      I too have been impressed by him in preseason.
      My hope is that he either he stays and is considers one of the 4 options at CB or is sent on loan to a prem club like villa to get as much game time and experience as he can.
      To sell him will be yet another example of how mostly our prior buying of young players has been a huge failure

      I've noticed that he's also got incredibly slow reaction times too! Many a time I've seen where an opposition player would just dink a ball past Coates and by the time Coates' foot has received the message from the brain to stick out a leg to block and responded to that command, the opposing player has already passed him by a good 2yds.

      I'd keep him though. To me, he's a better back-up option than Kelly.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #654: Sep 01, 2014 06:38:43 pm
      Loaned him to Sunderland, it's confirmed.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #655: Sep 01, 2014 07:06:06 pm
      Great move for the lad. Poyet will be good for him

      Just hope he comes back here next season
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #656: Sep 02, 2014 01:33:06 am
      Toure's contract runs out next summer, I doubt we will re-sign him. That means either Coates or Ilori or both take his place. I still think Coates could be a good player for us and moving to Sunderland will do nothing but give him great experience in the EPL.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #657: Sep 02, 2014 01:54:19 am
      Toure's contract runs out next summer, I doubt we will re-sign him. That means either Coates or Ilori or both take his place. I still think Coates could be a good player for us and moving to Sunderland will do nothing but give him great experience in the EPL.

      I agree, although I want to see more of Ilori as I get the impression he's a real gem.

      As you say there's no chance Toure will get another contract with us and one of these lads has the chance to step up, love the competition that we're beginning to get for senior places.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #658: Sep 02, 2014 09:34:37 am
      A loan move to a Prem side to get him back into the swing of things is a good move. Let's hope he starts.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #659: Sep 02, 2014 11:25:21 am
      Got a feeling he won't be coming back esp if Ilori shines this year in France.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #660: Sep 02, 2014 11:27:01 am
      Got a feeling he won't be coming back esp if Ilori shines this year in France.

      I completely forgot about Ilori going out on loan.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #661: Sep 02, 2014 11:31:58 am
      Good to see it is only a loan.  He was excellent in pre-season and now that Agger is gone, there is an opening for a potential long term CB, especially if Sakho keeps copying the Lucas Leiva playbook and passing the ball to opponents for fun like he did away at Spurs.

      I thought Coates really was impressive during pre-season, and after all, that's what it's all about, isn't it?  Go out on loan last season (he did), come back better (he did).  Hopefully he'll be a week-in-week-out starter at Sunderland, and with a manager who is a native Spanish speaker and played many years in the league, maybe Coates will be able to pick up on the nuances of English football even more.

      Although I was also pleasantly surprised, when I watched that interview he did for their website, to see how much his English has improved.  Good on him for making an effort.  I like this lad.

      Good luck to him and hope Rodgers keeps an eye on him this year.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #662: Sep 02, 2014 12:51:50 pm
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      Good luck to him and hope Rodgers keeps an eye on him this year

      Echo that. If it is the last year of his contract, next year (?) it will give Rodgers something to think about, especially if he has a good season of top flight football under his belt.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #663: Sep 03, 2014 12:47:13 am
      I'm glad it's a Premier League club this time but I still get the feeling we'll never see him in a red shirt again.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #664: Sep 03, 2014 09:29:07 pm
      I'm glad it's a Premier League club this time but I still get the feeling we'll never see him in a red shirt again.

      Same here, but then a season in the league with someone like Sunderland could be the making of him.
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      Re: Sebastian Coates Player Thread
      Reply #665: Sep 15, 2014 08:52:06 pm
      Has he played for them yet?
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      Reply #666: Sep 16, 2014 01:30:03 pm

      Don't think so. he was an unused substitute last time around

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