Stadium question

Could liverpool fill a 60,000+ stadium every week?

No...But we could more often then not and i think if we couldn't fill for let's say league cup games etc introduce a scheme where school kid's go free to make the stadium look full.

A 60,000 stadium is the best option for us whether that means a new stadium in Stanley Park or to redevelop Anfield

Yes we could

Yes.

With a good share of home support and a good helping of travelling fans then I reckon easily yes. Extra support who actually get to see a match also ensures long term support, if someone travels from another Country to see a match it sort of ensures them being a fan for life.

Such is the love of Liverpool.

Yes, for league games with the right ticketing policy and transport infrastructure.  Not the early rounds of the league cup though.

Yes. No problem.

Ramping up from 45,000 to 60,000 (or by a massive 33%) in one go is a big ask.

Requires the correct type of ticketing policy.

Lots of infrastructure is needed such as parking facilities etc, but I see no reason why the reds couldn't fill a 60,000 seater on a consistent basis.

Ramping up from 45,000 to 60,000 (or by a massive 33%) in one go is a big ask.

Requires the correct type of ticketing policy.

Lots of infrastructure is needed such as parking facilities etc, but I see no reason why the reds couldn't fill a 60,000 seater on a consistent basis.

Definitely.

Plenty of people would pay £25 to sit at the back of a big stand against Stoke, but far fewer people will pay £40.

Loads would pay £50 for a ticket anywhere in the ground against the likes of Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton games etc.

From previous attendances in the past few years? I'll be honest, no I don't think so, at least not every week.

Less than 35,000 turned up for a Saturday game against Bolton in January, albeit with Roy in charge and during x mas season, but that is still a worryingly low attendance for any club with a similar stature of Liverpool.

Kenny can work miracles, but can he entice 15,000 more spectators in to the ground EVERY WEEK? I have my doubts. If so, it would require a dramatic change around the infrastructure of Anfield/Stanley Park.

Either way, I'll do my best to be amongst them.

I think if we keep up the good performances, it might just be that possible!

As JD said with the correct and effective ticketing policy it can be done easily.

Yes.

Agreed

With a waiting list as long as the mersey we could fill the extra by releasing these.

Early rounds of the cup etc - well that would be a tickiting policy issue. Free Kids (for each paying adult). Reduced international fans and such other ideas would get the stadium full week in week out. For the big games it would increase revenue by 30% plus.

I would be more inclined to ask if we could fill an 80,000 each week. Untied had a 75,000 average last season - compaired to our 43,000. The Emitates yeilded a 60,000 attendance. I can see no reason why we couldnt match any of these numbers.

Just consider how many people who have been on the waiting list for season tickets for years there are, I don't think we'd have a problem filling 60000 seats tbh.

We'd get 55,000 plus each league game IMO. And if we got into the CL we'd fill a 65K seater for each of those, plus games against Utd, Everton, Arsenal, City, Chelsea.

Cup games would depend on the opposition. A 3rd round tie against Rotherham in the Carling Cup we'd only half fill it probably.

Cup games would depend on the opposition. A 3rd round tie against Rotherham in the Carling Cup we'd only half fill it probably.

£10 a ticket, £5 for kids and we'd fill it.

Lads im form ireland and i go to as many games as possible im going to the wolves game just got my tickets yesterday and i was at the sunderland game. As you no liverpool are hugely supported over here especially in dublin as the two cities are very similar as are the people. I no alot of uniteds attendance come from ireland. The thing with liverpool is its alot harder to get tickets for home games even for wolves it was hard to get a ticket and most the time iv to pay over the odds. I think with a bigger attendance there will be more tickets available at face value and alot more people will travel over from dublin. It only takes half an hour to get across. I dont no if you guys see this as a good or bad thing i no some liverpudlians dont really appreciate us "foreigners" coming over but im as much a fan as any and spend most of my money going to liverpool games. And a sixty thousand seater stadium would be full week in week out with more tickets readily available for face value. Its easy to get a ticket for old trafford or the emirates but liverpool is a diff story such is the demand. I went to the f.a cup game in old trafford with a few of my mates and a few where mancs they got 5 tickets or something for face value i couldnt believe it. Then i went to the game in anfield we beat them 3-1 and the hassle i had trying to get a ticket would put you off going.

Good point mate.  I think we have a tendency to look at our western catchment area and see water, but just beyond the horizon is Ireland, a cheap ferry / flight away. 

70000 stadium should be the minimum to aim for, with potential to expand in the future.

Very cheap tickets for league cup/fa cup games . Maybe FSG can bring some new ideas with regards to ticketing from the Fenway stadium. 

I cant understand any doubts about this when we have a massive waiting list for season tickets

Has anyone got any leaked pics of new anfield redevelopment

Doubt they've paid anyone to design any yet!

Doubt they've paid anyone to design any yet!

Sound, i know its a slow process but the suspense is killing me, thought we were also getting a big screen installed within the ground, not sure where that would go tbh.

would be nice if they demolish and extend the main stand next summer as we need the capacity increase, if we get top 4 this season then i hope they pull it off.

Doubt they've paid anyone to design any yet!

I'll bet they have.

As far as I understand it, the hold up is to do with buying up the remaining properties around the ground.
The club wants to pay market price, or lower if they can, and the residents want to milk it for everything they can.

No blame attached, most people would do the same, especially with the way the club has treated the area over the last few years.

I'll bet they have.

They'll have to have plans drawn up when the planning permission is submitted and they will have already done some of the costings for the work.  They can't do that without some sort of plans.

I'll bet they have.

As far as I understand it, the hold up is to do with buying up the remaining properties around the ground.
The club wants to pay market price, or lower if they can, and the residents want to milk it for everything they can.

No blame attached, most people would do the same, especially with the way the club has treated the area over the last few years.

Try a lot lower, from what I've heard, the way the club have gone about is absolutely disgusting, hope the residents, most of who are reds and would of moved had they been given a decent offer in the first place, get everything they can from the club.

If any of those people want to stay in the area I have a house for sale near Breck Road.Even when I was a kid that area was due for demolition

Try a lot lower, from what I've heard, the way the club have gone about is absolutely disgusting, hope the residents, most of who are reds and would of moved had they been given a decent offer in the first place, get everything they can from the club.

I know.
It's been dragging on for years while the club have let the area go to wrack and ruin, seemingly in an attempt to buy up the rest of the houses on the cheap.

Piss poor from the club really.

If John Henry can piss away a lot of money for a newspaper, then he surely should respect the community and pay what the residents are asking for.

I would definitely hold the club to ransom - a home is a home and for many it is priceless. The lack of respect and the distance between LFC's owners and its Anfield residents is sickening. Sadly, that is the state of the Premier League these days - instead of the original intention of football reaching out to local communities, over the years this aim has gone in the opposite direction. Football clubs don't represent the community, they represent themselves now. Aslo, the fans are at the bottom of the tier when it comes to owners listening.

The Premier League is just one example of capitalism gone wrong. I hope the Anfield residents know the fans are on their side.

tbh i think the owners are worknig well with the council as if there were just chucking people out on the street we would have had an upgraded groung already.  I think the delay is because they are sorting out housing redevelopment 1st so that residents are rehomed and onboard. can understand people have centimantal value as the've always lived there but this project will improve the area on the whole and be a better place for the whole community.

I may be wrong this is just my opinion but i dont think FSG are being disrespectfull or souless.

Would be great if Liverpool could have more fans / supporters.  We foreign supporters struggle to get hold of tickets.  For example,  my dad is going to be 70 next month and I planed to surprise him by taking him to watch Liverpool play Aston Villa on the 30th March - the few tickets available within the Liverpool supporters club in Malta have long been sold out.  Is anyone in a position to help out ?? we plan to travel to Liverpool around the 27th March.

Would be great if Liverpool could have more fans / supporters.  We foreign supporters struggle to get hold of tickets.  For example,  my dad is going to be 70 next month and I planed to surprise him by taking him to watch Liverpool play Aston Villa on the 30th March - the few tickets available within the Liverpool supporters club in Malta have long been sold out.  Is anyone in a position to help out ?? we plan to travel to Liverpool around the 27th March.

Good luck with those tickets, but I fear you have no chance of obtaining a ticket to see Liverpool vs Villa on the 30th March, as we are playing Spurs.

tbh i think the owners are worknig well with the council as if there were just chucking people out on the street we would have had an upgraded groung already.  I think the delay is because they are sorting out housing redevelopment 1st so that residents are rehomed and onboard. can understand people have centimantal value as the've always lived there but this project will improve the area on the whole and be a better place for the whole community.

I may be wrong this is just my opinion but i dont think FSG are being disrespectfull or souless.

the homes are empty its the problem trying to communicate with absent owners is causing a delay in the CPO programme.

Just wanted to know are we going to widen the pitch as well or is it just more seats?

Just wanted to know are we going to widen the pitch as well or is it just more seats?

Only 3 teams have wider pitches, in the Premier League, a combined 7 yards extra between the 3 of them.  We do have the (joint) shortest length though, but as many a girl, with lying eyes, will tell you, girth is better and length isn't important. 

what's happed to getting a large screen in i thought that was supposed to happen this season, does anyone know if the new plans account for a large scree. not that it matters but it would be good to see goal reply's when at the ground like other teams do around the world

what's happed to getting a large screen in i thought that was supposed to happen this season, does anyone know if the new plans account for a large scree. not that it matters but it would be good to see goal reply's when at the ground like other teams do around the world

Looking at Anfield as it is I can't see it, where would you out it for a start. Have to be honest not a fan of the screens, can watch the replays to me hearts content once I get home!

Looking at Anfield as it is I can't see it, where would you out it for a start. Have to be honest not a fan of the screens, can watch the replays to me hearts content once I get home!

yer good point and if it means less seats then swerve it.

We could fill a 75,000 week in week out. The ticket demand is ridiculous. Probably not against Port Vale in the cup, but every prem game would be filled.

Could liverpool fill a 60,000+ stadium every week?

Well we were getting 45k with 56k on the season ticket list.
Say we knocked some waiting list people off, there's still many who'd want to see 5, 10, 30 games a season instead. So say 45k + 35k, EASILY. Thats 80k

Provided we have a decent team, and fair prices.

Dont listen to the plants and pricks that frequent various forums (Rawk being one of the most obvious examples of plant infiltration). All their kind want to do is have lower capacity and tighten demand to charge obscene amts for ticket. Which is exactly what various scumbag owners in Italy are doing  ie capacities being slashed massively, even well below recent AVERAGE crowds.

You need to remember that the typical Anfield crowd has made Irish, Scandinavians and others travelling. LFC was the biggest/2nd club in much of England until recently. And the local supportership is barely being catered for currently.

Decent team, decent owners, and decent prices and we could sell 80k, 90k or more.
Where things are going currently, well thats a different issue. And a different thread perhaps.

I predict a bit of a backlash against the rising ticket prices, and sinking team quality. SOS seem to think so.

PS Arsenal went from 36k to 60k avg gate overnight.
There are many egs like that with big stadium expansions.

70000 stadium should be the minimum to aim for, with potential to expand in the future.

Very cheap tickets for league cup/fa cup games . Maybe FSG can bring some new ideas with regards to ticketing from the Fenway stadium.

Bang on, The Emirates Stadium was finish in 2006 and by 2007 most supporters were say that it should have been at least a 70,000 seater plus... By the way I live in Tottenham albeit a life long Liverpool supporter

are there any scopes to do the centenary stand?

its currently 12k including executive boxes but once anney rd and main stand are complete it will look out of place and think we will possibly look at expansion there once again probably try get it as a 3 tier stand maybe to get it to 18k including boxes.

are there any scopes to do the centenary stand?

its currently 12k including executive boxes but once anney rd and main stand are complete it will look out of place and think we will possibly look at expansion there once again probably try get it as a 3 tier stand maybe to get it to 18k including boxes.

Sorry to be dismissive, but again, the capacity can not bet increased to the 70-80,0000 as the transport infrastructure will not accommodate that amount of people.

This is out of the clubs hands. Locals and the council have the power here.

This is why the original plan was to build a new stadium on stanley park, that would have included new transport infrastructure as well. But FSG reviewed all old plans and decided most cost effective & practical plan was to re-vamp & increase Anfield.

I think most fans are happy with this no?

This is why the original plan was to build a new stadium on stanley park, that would have included new transport infrastructure as well. But FSG reviewed all old plans and decided most cost effective & practical plan was to re-vamp & increase Anfield.

I think most fans are happy with this no?

I believe it was split. As I recall half wanted to renovate Anfield and half wanted a brand new stadium with capacity of 70,000 or so.