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      Financial Fair Play Regulations

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      insideanfield
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      Re: Financial Fair Play Regulations
      Reply #184: Feb 26, 2015 04:56:01 pm
      It looks like we will receive a small fine (under £200k) as our loss was mainly due to the implementation of planning costs for the works due to be carried out at Anfield and scrapping a loss of almost £50m which was left from the previous owners after they failed to deliver their new stadium.

      After this small fine is paid, I believe we will start from scratch. So taking into account annual sponsor money and sums received for finishing in the top 4 of the league (if we do that is) we should be looking at a sum of around £40m for new signings/wages (plus whatever we bring in from player sales).
      bad boy bubby
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      Re: Financial Fair Play Regulations
      Reply #185: Feb 27, 2015 08:50:41 am
      Personally, I hope FFP is allowed to remain in place, and that UEFA will actually hold clubs in breach accountable. I hope FFP can help put an end to sugar daddies like Abramovic and Sheikh Mansour buying trophies for their little play things.... The amount of money being thrown around by these billionaire owners is ruining the integrity of the game....
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      Aye mate...

      Much better that the original 'old money', the big clubs (with their new owners  ;)); the Man Utds, Arsenals and Liverpools [pretending, of course, that Chelsea weren't already a wealthy club] buy their trophies the fair way.   :lmao:

      You know... the way they always did (because they were richer and bigger than everyone else) before these nouveau rich, upstarts brought their new 'new money'; their own money into the game. How dare they?

      "Integrity"?  You're having a laugh.

      There's F**k all FAIR about FFP. It's a convenient cloak for carpetbaggers to hide behind - nothing else.
      « Last Edit: Feb 27, 2015 09:06:52 am by bad boy bubby »
      vulcan_red
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      Re: Financial Fair Play Regulations
      Reply #186: Feb 27, 2015 09:15:19 am
      FFP oh FFS. Chelsea and Man City receive unnatural advantage and now we have to play fair. Even now chelsea get sponsored by Yokohama Rubber for 200 million in shirt deal. Yokohama who have absolutely no dealings with Millhouse LLC, Abramovich's PE firm... C'mon
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      Re: Financial Fair Play Regulations
      Reply #187: Feb 27, 2015 09:54:02 am
      :-\

      Aye mate...

      Much better that the original 'old money', the big clubs (with their new owners  ;)); the Man Utds, Arsenals and Liverpools [pretending, of course, that Chelsea weren't already a wealthy club] buy their trophies the fair way.   :lmao:

      You know... the way they always did (because they were richer and bigger than everyone else) before these nouveau rich, upstarts brought their new 'new money'; their own money into the game. How dare they?

      "Integrity"?  You're having a laugh.

      There's f**k all FAIR about FFP. It's a convenient cloak for carpetbaggers to hide behind - nothing else.

      And I agree with this too. It's not just chelsea and city FFP is a joke
      racerx34
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      Re: Financial Fair Play Regulations
      Reply #188: Feb 27, 2015 10:54:14 am
      They're a joke.

      Look at Chelsea stockpiling young players and then using the money from them to mask financial doping.
      Making a profit because they hoovered up players and then boosting their transfers in the first team.

      Idiotic rules.
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      Re: Financial Fair Play Regulations
      Reply #189: Feb 28, 2015 09:08:29 am
      They're a joke.

      Look at Chelsea stockpiling young players and then using the money from them to mask financial doping.

      I get where you're coming from racer but remember, when we "look at Chelsea" (or anyone else, for that matter), we tend to miss looking elsewhere and maybe that's the reason we are encouraged to "look at Chelsea. "Look over there - a distraction!"

      Take Kronke's Arsenal or the Glazer's Man Utd (bit of a theme  ;)), for e.g. - when everybody is busy looking at their "noisy neighbours" [Chelsea & City], they forget who the biggest beneficiaries from FFP really are.

      The biggest beneficiaries aren't the West Ham, Swansea, Stoke or Leicester's of this world; clubs who will never be able to compete, with the big boys, if they are only allowed to spend what they make. What is fair about a system which actively promotes a two, or three-tier structure?

      What, exactly, is different between Chelsea being able to spend more than Arsenal, City being able to spend more than Utd (pre FFP) and Arsenal, Man Utd or Liverpool being able to spend more than Swansea or West Ham (post FFP)?  :confused-smiley-013:

      Be under no illusions that there were ulterior, self-serving, motives behind the clamour for the 'spend only what you earn' element of Financial Fair Play and being "Fair" wasn't one of them. Sign up to FFP and you [the owner] will, never again, be under any pressure to spend your own money; eat into your own profits... even if you have the money to compete with anyone.  ;)

      If you are 'lucky' enough to have bought into [own] a big club, with huge revenue potential, before FFP; you can't go wrong. FFP is a Godsend for an ownership who don't want to invest money (other than the purchase price) but do want to sit back and watch the profit-margin grow...

      Anyone who believes, for one minute, that Mr. John and Fenway Sports Group would have bought Liverpool without the passage of FFP is delusional or daft. These people don't give a flying F**k about what's fair.

      Want to be fair; really fair? Then make it that a club can only spend the same amount as the lowest common denominator.

      Well... either that or... drop the lie and facade that we signed up because we want to be "fair". >:D
      « Last Edit: Feb 28, 2015 09:30:36 am by bad boy bubby »
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      Re: Financial Fair Play Regulations
      Reply #190: Feb 28, 2015 11:17:06 am
      I get where you're coming from racer but remember, when we "look at Chelsea" (or anyone else, for that matter), we tend to miss looking elsewhere and maybe that's the reason we are encouraged to "look at Chelsea. "Look over there - a distraction!"

      Take Kronke's Arsenal or the Glazer's Man Utd (bit of a theme  ;)), for e.g. - when everybody is busy looking at their "noisy neighbours" [Chelsea & City], they forget who the biggest beneficiaries from FFP really are.

      The biggest beneficiaries aren't the West Ham, Swansea, Stoke or Leicester's of this world; clubs who will never be able to compete, with the big boys, if they are only allowed to spend what they make. What is fair about a system which actively promotes a two, or three-tier structure?

      What, exactly, is different between Chelsea being able to spend more than Arsenal, City being able to spend more than Utd (pre FFP) and Arsenal, Man Utd or Liverpool being able to spend more than Swansea or West Ham (post FFP)?  :confused-smiley-013:

      Be under no illusions that there were ulterior, self-serving, motives behind the clamour for the 'spend only what you earn' element of Financial Fair Play and being "Fair" wasn't one of them. Sign up to FFP and you [the owner] will, never again, be under any pressure to spend your own money; eat into your own profits... even if you have the money to compete with anyone.  ;)

      If you are 'lucky' enough to have bought into [own] a big club, with huge revenue potential, before FFP; you can't go wrong. FFP is a Godsend for an ownership who don't want to invest money (other than the purchase price) but do want to sit back and watch the profit-margin grow...

      Anyone who believes, for one minute, that Mr. John and Fenway Sports Group would have bought Liverpool without the passage of FFP is delusional or daft. These people don't give a flying f**k about what's fair.

      Want to be fair; really fair? Then make it that a club can only spend the same amount as the lowest common denominator.

      Well... either that or... drop the lie and facade that we signed up because we want to be "fair". >:D

      Its only Financial FAIR PLay for the parasites. In other words its a license to profiteer.

      What about fair play for the fans? Pratini doesnt give a sh*t.

      Scamway should have repaired the club in the 1st yr post takeover. Instead, they've freewheeled on tax losses from the previous regime. For instance, 50m tax loss on some shitty pictures drawn by Hicks's croneys.

      Just like the previous scum, but with the debt hidden further up the chain.

      The next problem is that our piss poor attitude to competing will translate into lower marketability worldwide.
      What kid outside Lpool wants to become a fan of a club that keeps selling its stars, never wins a big tropy, and hardly has any top players on its books. This will eat away at LFC like a disease as the top Ldon and Manc teams invest for the future.

      OUr piss poor net spend alone means we're not even MAINTAINING the squad. The wage slashes AND income growth mean we are less and less likely to compete for top silverware in the futures.

      Its pure short term greed.
      Financial "Fair" Play is just Financial Greed PLay.

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