Warrior

F**k off.

probably bullshit PR stunt to try and get nike to pay more.

Warrior are either really really really stupid, or really really really arrogant.

I'd say both. I'll stick to my Rome 84 shirt.

I don't see the issue, really. I mean, they're just a kit manufacturer trying to become as big as Nike, adidas, and others. Be madness to think they wouldn't try to grab one of the top two shirt-selling clubs in the world.

I don't see the issue, really.

It might have something to do with rivalry and hatred; most Reds (over here) hate United with a passion. Maybe you need to experience it to understand.

It might have something to do with rivalry and hatred; most Reds (over here) hate United with a passion. Maybe you need to experience it to understand.

It's a kit manufacturer.

It's a kit manufacturer.

Oh dear!

I don't see the issue, really. I mean, they're just a kit manufacturer trying to become as big as Nike, adidas, and others. Be madness to think they wouldn't try to grab one of the top two shirt-selling clubs in the world.

I'm really not arsed, but agree a bit with Del Boca Vista, it probably is to get Nike to pay more, but as well as that the mancs have probably saw how much money we're making now that we're getting a bigger cut from selling other merchandise, whereas Adidas used to get a cut from t-shirts, polo shirts range etc, same as Utd probably do with Nike.

It's a kit manufacturer.

And like I say...

Maybe you need to experience it to understand.

In the meantime you could just take it as being the reason behind the animosity. 

Oh dear!

Like I say...

What? I'm genuinely confused here. It's a kit manufacturer. They're in the business of manufacturing kits for clubs with the goal of their products being purchased and getting exposure. That's why adidas, Nike, Puma have a ton of clients.

If the issue is Warrior would offer United more money, then we can't really be surprised or outraged, can we? United are in a much better place than we are, and are in a position to negotiate better deals for themselves. Until we're back at the top, we're not always going to get the biggest sponsorship deal. Yeah that sucks, but that's a simple fact.

Can we negotiate and even better deal than the one we've got from Warrior? Yes, I think so, but it's a harder sell to a manufacturer than being the league champions, unfortunately.

I'm really not arsed, but agree a bit with Del Boca Vista, it probably is to get Nike to pay more, but as well as that the mancs have probably saw how much money we're making now that we're getting a bigger cut from selling other merchandise, whereas Adidas used to get a cut from t-shirts, polo shirts range etc, same as Utd probably do with Nike.

And they'll probably get that kind of a deal from Nike is my guess. But other manufacturers would be crazy to not try and land United despite how much we hate them.

What? I'm genuinely confused here. It's a kit manufacturer. They're in the business of manufacturing kits for clubs with the goal of their products being purchased and getting exposure. That's why adidas, Nike, Puma have a ton of clients.

If the issue is Warrior would offer United more money, then we can't really be surprised or outraged, can we? United are in a much better place than we are, and are in a position to negotiate better deals for themselves. Until we're back at the top, we're not always going to get the biggest sponsorship deal. Yeah that sucks, but that's a simple fact.

Can we negotiate and even better deal than the one we've got from Warrior? Yes, I think so, but it's a harder sell to a manufacturer than being the league champions, unfortunately.

Just thought on, I dread to see the amount of money they'd make if they got the same deal as us, those extra clauses about being in the Champions League etc!

LFC gave Warrior a unkown brand in world football a platform to show their product and sponsor our club,what us fans did not beleive is that they would use us as a platform to jump into bed with our biggest rival.

LFC gave Warrior a unkown brand in world football a platform to show their product and sponsor our club,what us fans did not beleive is that they would use us as a platform to jump into bed with our biggest rival.

Why not? Isn't Fellaini the face of their boot range, from another one of our biggest rivals!

Business is business and all that.

Why not? Isn't Fellaini the face of their boot range, from another one of our biggest rivals!

Business is business and all that.

Individual players for clubs is fine but the whole club?, i thought the brand would be unique to us as a club kit sponsor because we are a unique club.

What? I'm genuinely confused here. It's a kit manufacturer. They're in the business of manufacturing kits for clubs with the goal of their products being purchased and getting exposure. That's why adidas, Nike, Puma have a ton of clients.

I have a big problem with anyone, sponsors, players, managers etc who use Liverpool Football Club as a stepping stone to what they perceive as bigger or better things.

There's is no point whatsoever in our esteemed Commercial team bringing in new sponsors to help raise our income if the same sponsors then go and give our competitors a better fu**ing deal.

It's a kit manufacturer.

Okay Mozzie you've swayed me; after all you've said "it's a kit manufacturer three times" now. 

Because you don't see (or have) an issue doesn't mean that there isn't one for some. You were offered some insight as to why it may be an issue; some understanding if you like. Take it or leave it.

A wee tip though - you have F**k all chance in changing perceptions - even with such a compelling argument.   

Just thought on, I dread to see the amount of money they'd make if they got the same deal as us, those extra clauses about being in the Champions League etc!

I don't see how Warrior can sustain as a company though. I can't imagine them selling THAT much regardless of the clubs they supply to ever match their deals. Seems like they'd bankrupt themselves eventually?

I have a big problem with anyone, sponsors, players, managers etc who use Liverpool Football Club as a stepping stone to what they perceive as bigger or better things.

There's is no point whatsoever in our esteemed Commercial team bringing in new sponsors to help raise our income if the same sponsors then go and give our competitors a better fu**ing deal.

I guess I can see that. But I mean, are you honestly that surprised? "Corporation in sleaziness shocker" and all.

A wee tip though - you have f**k all chance in changing perceptions - even with such a compelling argument. 

Which says something, doesn't it?

Are we really upset that a clothing company is seeking out a new club to makes clothes for? They haven't used LFC in any way shape or form. They were an aspiring company and got their chance making our kits. Now they have chances to expand their brand and you expect that they won't? Ridiculous this argument

My comments on Warrior were general, not specific to the Utd story. Seems a lot of people at our club cosy up to them these days.

It is just part of the FSG / ManU / Arsenal lets all be friend, they advise us to sack Kenny and hire BR, we improve there income by getting Warrior to start a bidding war.

I have a big problem with anyone, sponsors, players, managers etc who use Liverpool Football Club as a stepping stone to what they perceive as bigger or better things.

There's is no point whatsoever in our esteemed Commercial team bringing in new sponsors to help raise our income if the same sponsors then go and give our competitors a better fu**ing deal.

Agreed Debs but that is the business world we live.

I still bought a Sony TV though cos Samsung sponsors the Chavs.

It is just part of the FSG / ManU / Arsenal lets all be friend, they advise us to sack Kenny and hire BR, we improve there income by getting Warrior to start a bidding war.

This has nothing to do with "being friends". Warrior is a business. The goal of any business is to make money. In order to make money they need more teams wearing their kits. Who sells the most kits? The team that sells the most kits makes the most money for the brand. Why is this even a debate? Warrior is not Liverpool and to act like they are part of the club is really obtuse.

This has nothing to do with "being friends". Warrior is a business. The goal of any business is to make money. In order to make money they need more teams wearing their kits. Who sells the most kits? The team that sells the most kits makes the most money for the brand. Why is this even a debate? Warrior is not Liverpool and to act like they are part of the club is really obtuse.

I was being sarcastic. Common sense tell me that you cant sell manufacturing kit for both Liverpool and ManU and keep both sets of supporters happy.
 It would be nieve of warrior to think that they can, one or the other, not both