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      Iago Aspas (Liverpool -> Sevilla -> Celta Vigo)

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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #414: Jan 24, 2015 12:50:33 pm
      Watched his cameo the other night. Very lively and completely changed the game with harrasing. Not a gifted player technically but pain in the arse for defenders thanks to his never die attitude. Bit of a nutcase as well, everyone who watched him in this cup game must have had a great laugh. Surprised nobody punched him after the final whistle.

      They were 3:0 down at Espanyol towards the end but Iago made Sevilla goal happen thanks to his aggresion and good instinct in the box, then pressurized defene into mistake only for his team-mate missing a sitter in stoppage time to make it 3:2 going into the 2nd leg. Probably not good enough for Liverpool with clear cultural shock in England when arrived but definitely not as sh*t as some people make him out to be.
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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #415: Jan 26, 2015 10:39:45 am
      tell security to not let him back in melwood pre-season hopefully they sign him full stop
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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #416: Feb 01, 2015 07:48:49 pm
      Aspas with a cracking goal. Great game overall too.

      Might get more money for him  ;D
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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #417: Feb 01, 2015 09:04:13 pm
      Aspas with a cracking goal. Great game overall too.

      Might get more money for him  ;D

      Would not say it was cracking. The defence was AWOL.

      https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/A8D06232751173774367797178368_3c26621891d.1.5.13315275815825116732.mp4?versionId=vhtsyL7vkjfvHHdMqALs7H4qGgmi_MwX
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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #418: Feb 01, 2015 10:56:21 pm
      Aspas with a cracking goal. Great game overall too.

      Might get more money for him  ;D

      The Echo says Sevilla have the option to buy for £5m. They'll probably sell him and buy Ings for £3m ;)
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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #419: Feb 02, 2015 01:05:47 pm
      revoke his pass to melwood and sell him
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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #421: Apr 08, 2015 09:48:17 am
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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #422: Apr 08, 2015 03:03:11 pm
      He's still not good enough. Near enough all of his goals have come in the Spanish cup.



      I tell you what though, I think I would have actually preferred Aspas over Balotelli during the dark months of the season.
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      Reply #423: Apr 08, 2015 03:31:03 pm
      I tell you what though, I think I would have actually preferred Aspas over Balotelli during the dark months of the season.

      I agree, but only because of how Rodgers uses his strikers. If however Balotelli was used correctly, then no.
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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #424: May 27, 2015 09:40:46 pm
      He wins a Europa league medal  :f_wah:
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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #425: May 27, 2015 09:46:08 pm
      He wins a Europa league medal  :f_wah:

      Hahahaha.... gotta put a couple of £m on his head that right? Maybe straight swap for Benteke? :D
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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #426: May 27, 2015 10:10:58 pm
      Hahahaha.... gotta put a couple of £m on his head that right? Maybe straight swap for Benteke? :D

      I've read that Sevilla made his transfer permanent.
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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #427: May 27, 2015 11:38:21 pm
      I've read that Sevilla made his transfer permanent.

      Damn!! we need winners in our team!!!!! absolutely gutted :( :(
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      Reply #428: May 27, 2015 11:58:45 pm
      He wins a Europa league medal  :f_wah:

      As if to add insult to injury.
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      Reply #429: May 28, 2015 01:00:26 am
      If however Balotelli was used correctly,
      Or if Balotelli had either ability or the intelligence to adapt to the style of football which saw us finish runner up.

      I know a good game; all the hip kids are playing it - it's called 'Let's pretend we liked Mario all along'.  >:D

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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #430: May 28, 2015 01:37:35 am
      Or if Balotelli had either ability or the intelligence to adapt to the style of football which saw us finish runner up.

      I know a good game; all the hip kids are playing it - it's called 'Let's pretend we liked Mario all along'.  >:D



      If it were only Balo that struggled, I would agree and question the player, but we both know that wasn't the case ;)

      FYI, I was against Balo joining us :)
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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #431: May 28, 2015 08:48:37 am
      If it were only Balo that struggled, I would agree and question the player, but we both know that wasn't the case  ;)
      Aspas struggled too and that, going by your logic, is probably down to Brendan's inability to get the best out of him. If we accept then that it's down to the manager and not really the player's ability or lack of it will be safe to assume that, should Brendan be sacked, you'd be happy to see both Balotelli and Aspas back in our attack next season [along with Borini and Lambert no doubt].  ;)

      FYI, I was against Balo joining us  :)
      Why is that mate?  :)

      Is it because you, like me, recognised he has never been prolific from open play, has always been a disruptive influence and has always upset the team dynamic at every club he's played for? Or... was it because you thought he's a great striker but Brendan won't be able to get the best out of him?

      This rewriting of 'history' that paints Mario Balotelli as some sort of hard done by hero is nothing but pure, unadulterated sh*te.

      He was bought in a last minute, desperate, act, to try to save face by ensuring we didn't end, yet another Summer, under FSG, without a 'name' striker, after having moved one on. He was bought because he was deemed "value for money"; was labelled "worth a gamble at the price" and because he took a pay cut - nothing else.

      Well guess what - those who openly and honestly didn't want him here [for the real reasons, outlined above] were right... irrespective of the revisionist bull-sh*t.

      Aspas is the same - bought because he was "value for money", easy to pay and "worth a risk" but he was never good enough... regardless of who was/is Liverpool F.C. manager.

      I know we are all hurting but listen to yourselves FFS. The whole notion that we should expect any Liverpool manager to work with, at best, average or 'future potential' players, to turn them into winners and call him a failure when he can't is absolutely ludicrous.
       
      You really want a winning team Reds? Demand FSG pay wages which will attract top quality players so that the manager [whoever the F**k that might be] has a fighting chance.
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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #432: May 28, 2015 10:49:52 am
      I DID think the Balotelli signing was good idea, that's because sometimes I'm a f****** idiot. I thought Balotelli was sometimes a f****** idiot too, but that Brendan might be able to work on his head a bit. I was wrong of course, Balotelli is in fact always a f****** idiot and not only that, but unless you play exactly to his strengths isn't actually that good in any case.

      To pretend that's Brendan's fault is like BBB says, complete sh!t.
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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #433: May 28, 2015 10:54:47 am
      Aspas struggled too and that, going by your logic, is probably down to Brendan's inability to get the best out of him. If we accept then that it's down to the manager and not really the player's ability or lack of it will be safe to assume that, should Brendan be sacked, you'd be happy to see both Balotelli and Aspas back in our attack next season [along with Borini and Lambert no doubt].  ;)

      I don't rate Aspas, so even if we had a world class manager, I doubt he would've got the best out of him :( And if Rodgers got sacked, I would be all for Balo to stay if we bring in a manager that's for his style of play.

      Why is that mate?  :)

      Is it because you, like me, recognised he has never been prolific from open play, has always been a disruptive influence and has always upset the team dynamic at every club he's played for? Or... was it because you thought he's a great striker but Brendan won't be able to get the best out of him?

      The former, but my mind changed a couple of months ago or so when I realised how sh*t Rodgers' tactics were.

      For me, it's not always about bringing out the best in players, but a balance to the side, a structure, but Rodgers has failed in that this season, and you could say that about last season too, defensive wise.

      I know we are all hurting but listen to yourselves FFS. The whole notion that we should expect any Liverpool manager to work with, at best, average or 'future potential' players, to turn them into winners and call him a failure when he can't is absolutely ludicrous.

      You really want a winning team Reds? Demand FSG pay wages which will attract top quality players so that the manager [whoever the f**k that might be] has a fighting chance.
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      Personally, I don't think the squad is as bad as you make it out to be. Even though I was against 6/7 of our signings, we bought in a good mixture, from established to potential. Lallana, Lovren, Balo, Lambert, perhaps even Moreno were established or at a good age to be kicking off. It wasn't all potential that Rodgers had to work under. What failed us was the tactics. Playing target men as roaming forwards, not playing a specialist DM for the first few months, players out of position etc. You would expect us to be more settled after 3 seasons, right?

      I agree, paying high wages attracts big players, but I don't believe this notion that we need them to become a consistent challenger for top 3, perhaps even the title and cups. How many world class players did Atletico have when they won the league? Valencia, Sevilla, Dortmund, Porto etc etc?
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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #434: May 28, 2015 11:07:58 am
      I don't rate Aspas, so even if we had a world class manager, I doubt he would've got the best out of him
      But you didn't rate Balotelli either fella; you said "FYI, I was against Balo joining us" or have I taken you up wrong?

      The former, but my mind changed a couple of months ago or so when I realised how sh*t Rodgers' tactics were.
      Oh... wait... it seems I have.

      It's not (as you originally thought) that you recognised he has never been prolific from open play, has always been a disruptive influence and has always upset the team dynamic at every club he's played for. It's because Balotelli is actually brilliant and Brendan was sh*te for not extracting that brilliance. I guess a penalty, a free-kick and a two yard tap in can have that effect on some people.

      You do know that no manager has ever been able "to get the best" out of Mario - no manager? Now that could be because, like Brendan they are all "sh*te" or that Mario is actually that good. The smart money is on the latter btw.  ;)

      Personally, I don't think the squad is as bad as you make it out to be. Even though I was against 6/7 of our signings
      Oh. Holy. F**k.  :lmao:

      Good luck fella; see ya.

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      Re: Iago Aspas Player Thread
      Reply #435: May 28, 2015 11:17:57 am
      Oh... wait... it seems I have.

      It's not (as you originally thought) that you recognised he has never been prolific from open play, has always been a disruptive influence and has always upset the team dynamic at every club he's played for. It's because Balotelli is actually brilliant and Brendan was sh*te for not extracting that brilliance. I guess a penalty, a free-kick and a two yard tap in can have that effect on some people.

      Or watching Rodgers fail to bring the best out of a team because of his tactics, playing players out of position etc. It's not always about having great players to win or challenge, it's about the right setup and balance with some very good players, players we had in, Skrtel, Sahko, Lucas, Hendo, Lallana, Coutinho, Sterling Gerrard & Sturridge.

      Perhaps if his tactics weren't so bad, we could've added a few more players onto that list.

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      Reply #436: May 28, 2015 11:29:38 am
      Or watching Rodgers fail to bring the best out of a team because of his tactics, playing players out of position etc. It's not always about having great players to win or challenge, it's about the right setup and balance with some very good players, players we had in, Skrtel, Sahko, Lucas, Hendo, Lallana, Coutinho, Sterling Gerrard & Sturridge.

      Perhaps if his tactics weren't so bad, we could've added a few more players onto that list.

      Take away the tactics for one moment

      When you are talking Balotelli though in game you only have to look at players feeding him the ball, Coutinho for example that when he has the ball and Balotelli is in front of him he gets frustrated, he's pointing for him to make runs, he shrugs his shoulders at his lack of effort and movement.. He more or less refuses to give him the ball because Balotelli doesn't suit him, there is a marked difference how quickly Coutinho releases the ball with Sturridge in front of him than with Balotelli.. Take tactics away Balotelli doesn't suit the players around him let alone the tactics or style

      He was a poor signing from day one to what we have personnel wise let alone how we approach games.

      Same with Lambert.. Think back to the QPR game I think it was and Hendo tried to release him twice in behind and he was too slow to get onto a ball that Sturridge would have been on with time to spare..

      Aspas is simply sh*te

      Forget tactics.. Forget Rodgers for a minute, surely when looking at potential signings you look at everything, but one of the biggest things is that they suit what you currently have style wise. If you are doing a tick box for a potential signing then all three of those wouldn't get many ticks by their names.

      Our two main supply lines from midfield get frustrated with both Balotelli and Lambert when they have the ball, they aren't a threat, leading to them holding onto the ball too long and moves breaking down.

      Whoever comes in as manager or if Rodgers stays I just hope to f**k we target players who suit what we have already let alone a style.

      It's ok then saying get Coutinho, Sterling and Hendo to adapt to them and alter tactically but a massive switch tactically wouldn't suit those players to accommodate Balotelli.. You then make those less effective to get slightly more from him.

      Just sign more suitable players

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