"We Need To Talk About Gerrard."

Same could be said for the other players mate.

Indeed - not forgetting either that the seasons when he has played his best football tally exactly when he had other players, of his calibre, in front of him to bounce off. Coincidence? Maybe.

Or like Johnson, another one offered half wages for the privilege of staying.

A good point which will, sadly, go unheard in the white noise designed to obfuscate.

Quote from The Mail On Line last week...
"New Inter Milan manager Roberto Mancini is set to offer Steven Gerrard a move in January, unless the Liverpool captain agrees a new deal at Anfield.

Gerrard also has a number of options to move to the United States next summer with New York Cosmos one potential avenue for the 34-year-old midfielder.

But the Football Grapevine understands that a move to Serie A could be very appealing."

Some great designer shops in Milan and NY for Alex... nice slow paced game in Serie A which would suit Stevie's current way of playing..

Would you blame him?... I wouldn't...

Quote from The Mail On Line last week...
"New Inter Milan manager Roberto Mancini is set to offer Steven Gerrard a move in January, unless the Liverpool captain agrees a new deal at Anfield.

Gerrard also has a number of options to move to the United States next summer with New York Cosmos one potential avenue for the 34-year-old midfielder.

But the Football Grapevine understands that a move to Serie A could be very appealing."

Some great designer shops in Milan and NY for Alex... nice slow paced game in Serie A which would suit Stevie's current way of playing..

Would you blame him?... I wouldn't...

he has a playing future and beyond at LFC, but not in his current position.

play him for 60-70mins and get a performace or play him in this poxy-mother-F***ing-we-dont-know-where-else-to-play-him holding midfielder role and get what we've seen all season

Its not Rocket science...

Would it be possible to have a poll on this? Or merge this into the SG thread with a temporary poll added on or something? Would be interesting to see the votes.

It would be the most one sided poll ever.

Again with the over simplistic solutions to our problem. No, Gerrard should not be dropped. Yes, Gerrard should be dropped. The solution to our immediate problem is be more flexible with our team selection until we find one that's the solution to our immediate problem.

I'm gonna go with a "Hell Yes."

As a club we should have made plans to gradually phase him out some time ago. Trying to accomodate him in a starting position is dragging the whole team back; you certainly wouldn't see the likes of Barca, Real or Bayern doing this.

Even if he were to miraculously turn around his form this season how long would it last for? We need to build for the future without him.

Do we have to Drop him why not "Rest" him on the bench!

Don't feel we need to drop him, but maybe we could abandon the defensive midfielder/Pirlo role and push him higher up the pitch, maybe he can't do the full 90 at the top of the end of the pitch, but give him 60/70 minutes a game and either drop him back or sub him off, he's wasted being played as he is at the moment.

Best off gone soon before he tarnishes his Liverpool career with a season of awful performances.

No don't drop him play him on merit. Kenny spent plenty of time on the bench towards the end of his career no shame in that  not at all.

I would seriously consider releasing him at the end of the season.

He will be 35 in May and you wonder what condition he will be in considering how much he has deteriorated since last season's title run-in. Its not just the physicality we are talking about but also mentality comes into question. Ideally, he should be used as an impact substitute for the remainder of the season and then allow him to make the decision as to his future in the summer (i.e. join another club or hang up his boots). Jamie Carragher timed it impeccably and I'd like Steven Gerrard to follow suit to be perfectly honest.

We should be spending the next 6 months or so looking for a new midfielder to fill his boots as I don't feel Allen, Can, Henderson, Lucas or Lallana are up to the task. In my opinion, we should be looking to improve on our midfield and I'd be considering a move for Morgan Schneiderlin at the end of the season or as a short term option, Yohan Cabaye. As a like-for-like replacement it will be nigh on impossible to replace one of the greatest players to pull on a Liverpool shirt.

No don't drop him play him on merit. Kenny spent plenty of time on the bench towards the end of his career no shame in that  not at all.

Agreed.

I see no need to dismiss Gerrard entirely now, when the whole team is malfunctioning. Many have done so in the past and regretted it. No individual is bigger than the club but Gerrard is a major part of LFC on his merits and deserves respect. I believe he shouldn't be in the starting lineup right now - certainly not in the role he's been playing of late - but that is not to say he's useless, finished, and all the exaggerations we often see after a run of bad results. Let him sit on the bench for a while. See if he has what it takes to claim a spot back on the team.

Brendan has made an almighty mistaken in building his strategy around Gerrard.

He should have recognised his mistake a long time ago and we should never have got where we are now, when the answer is so painfully obvious to everyone. Yes he should be dropped, the system should be thrown out of the window and a new plan conceived for us moving forward.

The political side of the matter can be the only reason that Brendan hasn't dropped Gerrard at the moment and that in itself is a massive negative to the manager. Does he feel he can't hold the group together without the influence of Gerrard? He must in my opnion and the longer Gerrard lingers, offering absolutely nothing to the team then the more detrimental that will be to Rodger's future with us.

Time to grow a pair Brendan.

Brendan has made an almighty mistaken in building his strategy around Gerrard.

He should have recognised his mistake a long time ago and we should never have got where we are now, when the answer is so painfully obvious to everyone. Yes he should be dropped, the system should be thrown out of the window and a new plan conceived for us moving forward.

The political side of the matter can be the only reason that Brendan hasn't dropped Gerrard at the moment and that in itself is a massive negative to the manager. Does he feel he can't hold the group together without the influence of Gerrard? He must in my opnion and the longer Gerrard lingers, offering absolutely nothing to the team then the more detrimental that will be to Rodger's future with us.

Time to grow a pair Brendan.

Brendan is a political animal so the first thing did was get Gerrard on his side which left him free to deal with the others who may cause him problems.
He needs to be careful because if Stevie isn't playing he is in position to take over as player manager with Kenny doing what Sir Bob did.
Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer

Brendan is a political animal so the first thing did was get Gerrard on his side which left him free to deal with the others who may cause him problems.
He needs to be careful because if Stevie isn't playing he is in position to take over as player manager with Kenny doing what Sir Bob did.
Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer

Bang On Walton  .   +1

I'm not sure there is a need for this thread since we already have a "talk about Gerrard" thread?

He's playing a role which he did last season (very well I might add).
This season he's always got a man on him to negate the quick pass /superb pass to set us on our way .
No Luis ,Sturridge injured ,sterling a bit off the boil,hendo off form injured.

It's pointless having him in that position with a toothless attack.

Good analysis from Carra

Carra on Monday Night Football talking about Steven Gerrard

Good analysis from Carra

Carra on Monday Night Football talking about Steven Gerrard

So the problem is their is nobody on his wavelength up top?

So the problem is their is nobody on his wavelength up top?

Makes sense...he had a good feel for Sturridge and especially Suarez and what they were going to do. The new guys he just doesn't seem to connect with well. Think what Carra is implying is until Danny's back or Gerrard develops a better feel for whoever is going to be playing striker (Borini, Balo, Lambert) he should be played further forward in favor of a true DM.

Makes sense...he had a good feel for Sturridge and especially Suarez and what they were going to do. The new guys he just doesn't seem to connect with well. Think what Carra is implying is until Danny's back or Gerrard develops a better feel for whoever is going to be playing striker (Borini, Balo, Lambert) he should be played further forward in favor of a true DM.

The fuckers been reading my posts.

The fuckers been reading my posts.

If they're smart