Emre Can (Liverpool > Juventus)

Watching Germany game earlier, and it looks like our Emre has lost some weight :O.

Sakho must be his dealer.

Watching Germany game earlier, and it looks like our Emre has lost some weight :O.

He read this forum when people were calling him fat at the start of the year

Good news.

Liverpool to open Emre Can contract talks

The Reds are preparing to begin preliminary discussions with the Germany international and his representatives over an improved long-term deal.

Can's current Anfield contract, signed in 2014, still has two years left to run but the club are eager to secure the 22-year-old's future – and to recognise his importance to the team under Jürgen Klopp.

The former Bayer Leverkusen man emerged as a key figure last season, making 49 appearances having been restored to his preferred central midfield role.

Liverpool are keen to strengthen that area in the summer, with Borussia Moenchengladbach's Mahmoud Dahoud a target, but Can is seen as an integral part of their plans going forward.

Discussions are still at an early stage, but Can has spoken glowingly about both Klopp and Liverpool this season and is likely to welcome the chance to extend his stay on Merseyside.

Good news.

Liverpool to open Emre Can contract talks

The Reds are preparing to begin preliminary discussions with the Germany international and his representatives over an improved long-term deal.

Can's current Anfield contract, signed in 2014, still has two years left to run but the club are eager to secure the 22-year-old's future – and to recognise his importance to the team under Jürgen Klopp.

The former Bayer Leverkusen man emerged as a key figure last season, making 49 appearances having been restored to his preferred central midfield role.

Liverpool are keen to strengthen that area in the summer, with Borussia Moenchengladbach's Mahmoud Dahoud a target, but Can is seen as an integral part of their plans going forward.

Discussions are still at an early stage, but Can has spoken glowingly about both Klopp and Liverpool this season and is likely to welcome the chance to extend his stay on Merseyside.

You just beat me to it

You just beat me to it

 

Good news.

Liverpool to open Emre Can contract talks

The Reds are preparing to begin preliminary discussions with the Germany international and his representatives over an improved long-term deal.

Can's current Anfield contract, signed in 2014, still has two years left to run but the club are eager to secure the 22-year-old's future – and to recognise his importance to the team under Jürgen Klopp.

The former Bayer Leverkusen man emerged as a key figure last season, making 49 appearances having been restored to his preferred central midfield role.

Liverpool are keen to strengthen that area in the summer, with Borussia Moenchengladbach's Mahmoud Dahoud a target, but Can is seen as an integral part of their plans going forward.

Discussions are still at an early stage, but Can has spoken glowingly about both Klopp and Liverpool this season and is likely to welcome the chance to extend his stay on Merseyside.

Presumably just giving him a new contract to hold his value until we can sell him ala Mignolet

Great news, I think he will develop into a top player once we find the right midfield partner for him.   

Presumably just giving him a new contract to hold his value until we can sell him ala Mignolet

 

Think it would be better here than transfer thread

I guess you clearly don't agree with me when I say he's a very good passer and is indeed superb at tackling. The problem is that in our side we have so few players that actually can tackle that it's left to the DM to assume that responsibility far too often. It's why both Lucas and Can commit so many fouls (granted Lucas has a bad habit too, but that's beside the point).

I mean I'm not saying he is at Kante's level but he is still only 22 and Kante looked like a freak for most of last season. After him though I think Can compares pretty well with the rest.

I think Can is a damn fine tackler, but he doesn't have that natural tendency of a DM (tracking, positional awareness etc). I would say the same with DLPM (vision, passing etc). I just feel some players have it and some don't, look at the likes of, Dier, Neves, Kimmich W.Carvalho etc, they look so natural in that specialist role regardless of age, but I just don't see it in Can, he just doesn't stand out in a particular area, but more so in his all round game.

 

Getting someone alongside him who doesn't just track and harass but able to contribute at least some to the defensive side of the game will bring even more out of Emre.

I agree with this to an extent, but you see a player that is more ascending (Modric type) that'll bring out the best in Can, but I see the opposite and an Alonso or Masch type would work wonders for the likes of, Can, Hendo or Allen because they would have more freedom to play (imo) in their natural state.

 

If we're going to persist with a 2 in midfield though they both need to be capable of both roles. I think in Emre we have a player who could develop into that type but none of the rest have enough quality in either defensive or attacking areas to warrant selection there in my opinion. Allen was actually the one near the end of the season that I thought fitted the best of any. If you could guarantee me that form rather than some of his meeker servings then I'd have him on the bench ahead of Henderson.

And this is the reason why I think Can would be great in that 8 role, same goes with Hendo and as you mentioned, Allen.

Think it would be better here than transfer thread

I think Can is a damn fine tackler, but he doesn't have that natural tendency of a DM (tracking, positional awareness etc). I would say the same with DLPM (vision, passing etc). I just feel some players have it and some don't, look at the likes of, Dier, Neves, Kimmich W.Carvalho etc, they look so natural in that specialist role regardless of age, but I just don't see it in Can, he just doesn't stand out in a particular area, but more so in his all round game.

 
I agree with this to an extent, but you see a player that is more ascending (Modric type) that'll bring out the best in Can, but I see the opposite and an Alonso or Masch type would work wonders for the likes of, Can, Hendo or Allen because they would have more freedom to play (imo) in their natural state.

 
And this is the reason why I think Can would be great in that 8 role, same goes with Hendo and as you mentioned, Allen.

Fair enough mate, I do see your reasoning too, guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Definitely a holding mid for me. Doesn't have the awareness to play up the pitch effectively and uses the extra time he has sitting deep very well.

I think he's a holding midfielder capable of picking when to get forward rather than a box to box type.

Either way he's bloody brilliant.

I think he's a holding midfielder capable of picking when to get forward rather than a box to box type.

Either way he's bloody brilliant.

I think there are different types of #8's, as there are #6's, #10s etc etc. What I think Can is would be a Vieria/Toure #8 type. I don't consider them pure box-box like Hendo, Rakitic etc where they are constantly harrying and being all over the pitch, but more so a proper central midfielder where they are best at holding the middle and being able to balance out their attack and defending.

I think there are different types of #8's, as there are #6's, #10s etc etc. What I think Can is would be a Vieria/Toure #8 type. I don't consider them pure box-box like Hendo, Rakitic etc where they are constantly harrying and being all over the pitch, but more so a proper central midfielder where they are best at holding the middle and being able to balance out their attack and defending.

I agree mate. The defensive midfield role seems to have changed over the last few years anyway, with the DM now staying more central rather than covering the full backs as you would have seen under Masch etc. Now it is the CB'S who go out wide while the DM drops deeper to cover the centre. 

I agree mate. The defensive midfield role seems to have changed over the last few years anyway, with the DM now staying more central rather than covering the full backs as you would have seen under Masch etc. Now it is the CB'S who go out wide while the DM drops deeper to cover the centre. 

Which makes passing ability more of a requirement to play in that DM role, right?

Don't get me wrong, I like Can and would love to see him, Allen or Hendo battle for the 2nd midfield spot, but I just feel he isn't ready to be our main midfielder.

We need him to hammer his place and grab his chance and improve. We need some stability in the midfield. He can do it.

Which makes passing ability more of a requirement to play in that DM role, right?

Don't get me wrong, I like Can and would love to see him, Allen or Hendo battle for the 2nd midfield spot, but I just feel he isn't ready to be our main midfielder.

If passing is that important in that role then Kante is hardly a metronome in that dept.

If passing is that important in that role then Kante is hardly a metronome in that dept.

He can keep the play ticking, his short passing and composure is actually very good, something Can does not do very well, hence the reason why we need a passer along side Can imo.

He keeps the play ticking, his short passing and composure is actually very good.

His job was mainly as a fetcher to get the ball to Drinkwater, what Can needs next to him is a midfielder who can pick it up and break the lines either with a pass or running with the ball at feet.
Can has been unfortunate with his partners that he has had to do too much.

Not enough vertical passes from our midfielders.

His job was mainly as a fetcher to get the ball to Drinkwater, what Can needs next to him is a midfielder who can pick it up and break the lines either with a pass or running with the ball at feet.
Can has been unfortunate with his partners that he has had to do too much.

Not enough vertical passes from our midfielders.

Kante's his job is to stifle, destroy and play it simple, regardless of Drinkwater or not. The games I watched him play for Leicester and France, he doesn't particular favour a midfielder/player (Drinkwater or whatever), he just favours the simple positive option (majority of the time) which makes him such a good short passer.

As for Can, another thing he is very good at is ball carrying and making those bursting runs. A DLPM would add to the passing game whilst being more defensive astute than Can. And as mentioned, I see Can as a CM rather than specialist.

Just came across Can's full season show 2015/16:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P37cxcmWMfE

He lacks in the final third too much for me. I really rate him as a midfielder but he definitely needs to work on his passing, through balls especially and decision making. Even watching that video above you can see he's slow in picking out passes.

He'd still be one of the first names on the team sheet for me, just gotta let Klopp work out what his role is.

He has a chance for the semi final against France because of few German injuries. Good luck Emre.

He has a chance for the semi final against France because of few German injuries. Good luck Emre.

I seriously hope he doesn't get played at RB.

I seriously hope he doesn't get played at RB.

He should have a place in the middle of the park with Khedira injured and Swantiger... Manure doubtful.