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      The 'as it stands right now' starting 11

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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #23: Jul 29, 2014 09:42:03 pm

      Strongest 11.
      That would suggest DLS thinks those are currently our strongest 11.
      Pretty F***ing simple.
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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #24: Jul 29, 2014 09:44:00 pm
      Reina
      Lovren Skrtel Sakho
      Sterling Henderson Gerrard Can Markovic
      Coutinho
      Sturridge

      Very very similar to what I went with, I just have Stevie sitting behind the other 4 in the middle, and I haven't picked Reina still not convinced hell be here.
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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #25: Jul 29, 2014 09:58:14 pm
      Given that Lallana is out of the equation for a few weeks and unless anyone else is signed I'd go with...

                                        Mignolet

      Flanagan             Skrtel         Lovren          Enrique

                                        Gerrard   
       
                        Henderson               Coutinho

      Sterling                     Sturridge                    Markovic


      Away from home or against the better sides Can plays where I have Coutinho to tighten it up, with either Coutinho or Markovic benched.

      Gerrard can't play every week these days and I'd like to see Allen get games as the deep lying midfielder - good tempo setter and underrated defensively in terms of the interceptions he makes.  I've lost any trust in Lucas... has never looked the same since his injury, looks like he is treading water when he runs these days.  Offers nothing going forward anyway and his deteriorating mobility makes him less use defensively now.

      Johnson needs to go, in a team trying to play quick transition football he just slows things down.  Doesn't seem to know what to do with the ball when he gets it.  Realistically though I think he's here til his contract expires next summer.

      I'd like to see a Sakho/Lovren partnership eventually as the season develops but given neither has even played a pre-season game yet let alone a game together it might be better to go with a familiar face in Skrtel to start with.

      I get the feeling Rodgers doesn't rate Enrique, but for me he's a solid full back.

      Still think we could do with another fullback and probably a striker.  Sturridge is prone to niggling injuries and while Lambert is decent cover off the bench I wouldn't like to be looking at a run of 5 or 6 games with Lambert/Borini the only starting striker options.

                                                           
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      Reply #26: Jul 29, 2014 10:21:01 pm
      352 very interesting but i think we would not be getting the best of Markovic (not sure he has ever played in such a position) and Raheem. We really need specialist wing backs if you want to play that formation. Raheem is best when he has a roaming role across the front.
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      Reply #27: Jul 29, 2014 10:26:27 pm
      So says the soft c**t who has picked Lallana (a fella injured for the next six weeks) in his current starting XI.

      Your advice on anything is therefore null and void.

      Soft c**t? :D

      I did say supposing everyone was fit. Obviously that is your team selection but why the three CB's? Honestly why?
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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #28: Jul 29, 2014 10:29:28 pm
      352 very interesting but i think we would not be getting the best of Markovic (not sure he has ever played in such a position) and Raheem. We really need specialist wing backs if you want to play that formation. Raheem is best when he has a roaming role across the front.

      Agree on your points about Raheem. Think he will get 12/15 from the central positions this season.

      Him and Studge will have huge seasons and for all the talk of marquee signings people should believe that we've got two high level players in these two and they will only improve to become top end footballers. No doubt.

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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #29: Jul 29, 2014 10:31:12 pm
      I did say supposing everyone was fit. Obviously that is your team selection but why the three CB's? Really?!

      Then it wouldn't be called The 'as it is right now' starting 11. It would have been called The Supposing Everyone Was Fit Starting 11...

      As for 3 CB's, why not? New players could mean it works better than last season. People are making good arguments for it but as of yet you haven't really offered a good argument against other than trying to slate someones opinion in a way that seems for nothing other than just for the sake of it with no valid argument.
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      Reply #30: Jul 29, 2014 10:34:07 pm
      Then it wouldn't be called The 'as it is right now' starting 11. It would have been called The Supposing Everyone Was Fit Starting 11...

      As for 3 CB's, why not? New players could mean it works better than last season. People are making good arguments for it but as of yet you haven't really offered a good argument against other than trying to slate someones opinion in a way that seems for nothing other than just for the sake of it with no valid argument.

      I told you why I feel the formation doesn't work. Against better opposition the two wing backs get pushed back and it becomes more a 541 formation. Just watch the arsenal and Newcastle away games.
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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #31: Jul 29, 2014 10:40:44 pm
      but why the three CB's? Honestly why?

      Because Johnson and Enrique are sh*t and should never be playing in a Liverpool shirt again. As much as I like Kelly and Flanno, I wouldn't sacrifice one of our attacking options for them.

      I have to fit Gerrard, Henderson, Sterling, Coutinho and Sturridge into the team. From pre-season, I've been as impressed by Can as much as anybody (after Coutinho) and Markovic looks like he's gonna become a favourite of mine very early on. So fitting them into the team is what I would do. Therefore that makes it quite obvious that I have to go three at the back because unfortunately we can only have 11 players on the pitch at one time.

      If I go to a flat back four I'm leaving somebody out who, at this time, I don't feel should be.

      For example;

      Reina
      Kelly Lovren Sakho Flanagan
      Sterling Gerrard Henderson Markovic
      Coutinho
      Sturridge

      I have to leave Can out, who as I've already said has impressed me more than anybody else in pre-season with the exception of Phil Coutinho.
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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #32: Jul 29, 2014 10:47:31 pm
      I told you why I feel the formation doesn't work. Against better opposition the two wing backs get pushed back and it becomes more a 541 formation. Just watch the arsenal and Newcastle away games.

      You could start an argument in an empty thread. Bad F***ing weapon.
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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #33: Jul 29, 2014 10:48:41 pm
      I told you why I feel the formation doesn't work. Against better opposition the two wing backs get pushed back and it becomes more a 541 formation. Just watch the arsenal and Newcastle away games.

      But we have different players now, the system could work better!. The Newcastle one we were relying on Johnson and Aly 'I shouldn't ever have been a professional' Cissokho. Arsenal we were also playing with Cissokho and this time Flanno.

      Just because you don't agree with it I don't get why you are getting your knickers in such a twist over DLS going for 3.
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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #34: Jul 29, 2014 10:50:19 pm
      Can I just ask everyone how Markovic has slotted straight into most people's starting 11? I'm not saying he won't be deserving of it come the start of the season but did I miss something the other night? He showed a couple of little flashes and looks like the quickest white footballer since Dennis Romedhal BUT he didn't really get in the game, had some very heavy touches and didn't really do anything to justify a starting spot based on that 45.
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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #35: Jul 29, 2014 10:55:05 pm
      Can I just ask everyone how Markovic has slotted straight into most people's starting 11? I'm not saying he won't be deserving of it come the start of the season but did I miss something the other night? He showed a couple of little flashes and looks like the quickest white footballer since Dennis Romedhal BUT he didn't really get in the game, had some very heavy touches and didn't really do anything to justify a starting spot based on that 45.

      Basing it on a friendly, his first one of all games too! Who else would suggest playing? Coutinho out wide and him being less effective? Maybe Hendo out wide and him struggle? If you are going to say he isn't deserving of a starting spot based on the Olympiakos game then there are a fair few who should be just generally shot now because he wasn't our worst player by any stretch of the imagination.
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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #36: Jul 29, 2014 11:11:53 pm
                                            Mignolet



                              Skrtel       Lovren          Sakho



       Henderson                      Gerrard                             Enrique   


                                           Coutinho

                 
                       Sterling                                Markovic

                                         
                                           Sturridge
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      Reply #37: Jul 29, 2014 11:18:48 pm
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                              Skrtel       Lovren          Sakho



       Henderson                      Gerrard                             Enrique   


                                           Coutinho

                 
                       Sterling                                Markovic

                                         
                                           Sturridge

      Switch Can for Enrique and I would buy that all day long.
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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #38: Jul 29, 2014 11:20:36 pm
      Switch Can for Enrique and I would buy that all day long.

      Yeah. That is a shout actually, i would like to see Robinson and Caan compete for the position against Enrique, but i think Enrique should start and have the others come in and knock him off if they can.
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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #39: Jul 29, 2014 11:21:14 pm
      Can I just ask everyone how Markovic has slotted straight into most people's starting 11? I'm not saying he won't be deserving of it come the start of the season but did I miss something the other night? He showed a couple of little flashes and looks like the quickest white footballer since Dennis Romedhal BUT he didn't really get in the game, had some very heavy touches and didn't really do anything to justify a starting spot based on that 45.

      Cost £20 million big ones, Martin Jol (always listened to him I have) said he's going to be boss and I like his hair.

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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #40: Jul 29, 2014 11:21:51 pm
      Yeah. That is a shout actually, i would like to see Robinson and Caan compete for the position against Enrique, but i think Enrique should start and have the others come in and knock him off if they can.

      Just for the fact that he has been out for a year and that Can has looked so good in pre-season I would have Enrique and Robinson fighting it out for that spot.

      But agree same basic idea.
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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #41: Jul 29, 2014 11:25:12 pm
      Can I just ask everyone how Markovic has slotted straight into most people's starting 11? I'm not saying he won't be deserving of it come the start of the season but did I miss something the other night? He showed a couple of little flashes and looks like the quickest white footballer since Dennis Romedhal BUT he didn't really get in the game, had some very heavy touches and didn't really do anything to justify a starting spot based on that 45.

      To answer this for me he would be straight in to my 3-5-2, because i think we need speed on the break, and he provides that more so than any other player other than Sterling and Sturridge (whom start). Furthermore he doesn't offer just speed, when on the ball he keeps it well and with the options around him (Sterling, Coutinho, Sturridge) he could be a real threat.
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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #42: Jul 29, 2014 11:40:37 pm
      Thanks for the replies DLS and KK

      So anyway, team at present


      Mignolet
      Flanno
      Lovren
      Sakho
      Enrique
      Gerrard
      Hendo
      Coutinho
      Markovic
      Sterling
      Sturridge

      4-3-3

      MAYBE switch Gerrard or Hendo for Can.
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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #43: Jul 30, 2014 12:16:13 am
      Can I just ask everyone how Markovic has slotted straight into most people's starting 11? I'm not saying he won't be deserving of it come the start of the season but did I miss something the other night? He showed a couple of little flashes and looks like the quickest white footballer since Dennis Romedhal BUT he didn't really get in the game, had some very heavy touches and didn't really do anything to justify a starting spot based on that 45.

      Because whatever system we end up playing, we're gonna want Coutinho in a central role. Lallana is currently out injured. Ibe, while having a good pre-season thus far, still has a way to go before he's ready to play week in week out.

      So basically, at present, there isn't anybody else who we're gonna play on the opposite flank to Sterling.

      The only way that I could see Markovic not playing is if we went with Gerrard, Can, Henderson and Coutinho playing in some variation of the diamond with Sterling and Sturridge up top. It would appear though that most people see us playing Sturridge as a lone forward with midfielders supporting and therefore Lazzy gets in the team.
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      Reply #44: Jul 30, 2014 06:36:05 am
      I don't think 3 at the back would work very well with Gerrard playing in his now preferred role of deep lying playmaker. Lovren according to Brenden prefers to play as the left CB although he can also play as the right CB if required. I would play Sterling in a free role off Sturridge similarly to the role Suarez played. Although not in the same class I think with his pace and movement he could fill the role adequately until we buy better.

                                   Mignolet

      Flanagan     Skrtel            Lovren       Enrique
                           
                                  Gerrard

                  Henderson            Can (Lallana when fit)

                                Coutinho

                        Sturridge   Sterling (until we buy better) 

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      Re: The 'as it stands right now' starting 11
      Reply #45: Jul 30, 2014 07:46:00 am
      Pepe
      Flanno Skrtel Lovren Jose'

      Stevie     Can

      Sterling       Coutinho       Hendo
        Sturridge

      When Lallana comes back move Hendo for Can and move Can to LB

      Pepe
      Flanno Skrtel Lovren Can

      Stevie     
                    Hendo
      Sterling       Coutinho       Lallana
        Sturridge

      Can was excellent last season when he played LB for Leverkusen. It's nice to have that option.

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