Next LFC captain

Alright, so Stevie is obviously going to captain LFC whenever he's on the pitch and until he retires. After he goes, however, we'll need a new captain to step up. Dagger would be the obvious candidate, being club VC and having been at the club for 8 (?) years, except for the fact that he doesn't start regularly enough due to injury and competetion. So that leaves BR with somewhat of a dilemma for 2/3 years' time, when Stevie does move on.

Who would you go for then out of the current crop? Obviously BR doesn't have to decide now (and indeed shouldn't, since someone may stake an excellent claim to the position over the next couple of years), but he's going to be mulling the decision over in the back of his mind as Stevie nears closer and closer to retirement.

I'd go for Sturridge personally.

Jordan Henderson.

I think Henderson has the right attributes.

Sakho has previous experience captaining PSG and would be my second choice.

Both young enough to captain the side for the next 10 years presuming they both stay.

Henderson, or possibly Lallana if it's a couple of years down the line. Read somewhere that Lallana was excellent as Captain of Southampton and worked hard at the job.

Alright, so Stevie is obviously going to captain LFC whenever he's on the pitch and until he retires. After he goes, however, we'll need a new captain to step up. Dagger would be the obvious candidate, being club VC and having been at the club for 8 (?) years, except for the fact that he doesn't start regularly enough due to injury and competetion. So that leaves BR with somewhat of a dilemma for 2/3 years' time, when Stevie does move on.

Who would you go for then out of the current crop? Obviously BR doesn't have to decide now (and indeed shouldn't, since someone may stake an excellent claim to the position over the next couple of years), but he's going to be mulling the decision over in the back of his mind as Stevie nears closer and closer to retirement.

I'd go for Sturridge personally.

Never in a month of Sunday's, just not captain material, for me long-term replacement as captain would be Henderson, Lovren or Flanno!

That last one is a joke, but interesting to see somewhere earlier or yesterday, that Carragher thinks Lovren would make an ideal captain long-term.

Never in a month of Sunday's, just not captain material, for me long-term replacement as captain would be Henderson, Lovren or Flanno!

That last one is a joke, but interesting to see somewhere earlier or yesterday, that Carragher thinks Lovren would make an ideal captain long-term.

Why isn't Sturridge captain material?

I reckon Sakho. Henderson is a good candidate as well but i'd be worried it would put too much pressure on him.

Why isn't Sturridge captain material?

He's a confidence player, his head can go down too easily at times, essentially you want your Captain to be a leader ala someone like Graeme Souness. Plus I don't like strikers as captains, much prefer midfielders or defenders, but just my opinion!



Look at that image of Souness in 84 walking out in Roma's own stadium. Oozing utter arrogance and confidence, that's a captain!!

I can see Henderson doing it for sure

Got to be Henderson for me. Hardest working, professional attitude, totally dedicated to football and works hard to stay fit. No weird antics off the pitch and fought against adversity to become a truly priceless/valuable cog in the midfield.

As of right now my pick of the bunch would be Jordan Henderson. But that could change in a couple years time.

He's confident, he gives everything he's got, and he seems like one of those players that will just never want to leave the club.

Rossiter

I think Sterling. In 2-3 years he will be one of the best players in world football. He has matured so much in A YEAR and he's only 18. I think he will be and should be captain in a few years when Stevie goes and he has about 3 good seasons left in him.

He's a confidence player, his head can go down too easily at times, essentially you want your Captain to be a leader ala someone like Graeme Souness. Plus I don't like strikers as captains, much prefer midfielders or defenders, but just my opinion!



Look at that image of Souness in 84 walking out in Roma's own stadium. Oozing utter arrogance and confidence, that's a captain!!

I'd say Sturridge is fairly arrogant and confident . Besides, being made captain of Liverpool Football Club could only give more confidence.

Nothing against Hendo but he seems a little bit too dim to be captain for me...

I'd say Sturridge is fairly arrogant and confident . Besides, being made captain of Liverpool Football Club could only give more confidence.

Nothing against Hendo but he seems a little bit too dim to be captain for me...

Dim... you may have a point there actually. haha

For me: Henderson, Sakho, Lovren (if he does well because he has a good leadership) and Rossiter.

He's a confidence player, his head can go down too easily at times, essentially you want your Captain to be a leader ala someone like Graeme Souness. Plus I don't like strikers as captains, much prefer midfielders or defenders, but just my opinion!



Look at that image of Souness in 84 walking out in Roma's own stadium. Oozing utter arrogance and confidence, that's a captain!!

the expression on his face in that pic, he looks like he's about to do someone in not play a football match. That said, it was Souness, was there a difference?

ITs gotta be the next player to grow a mustache.  otherwise henderson.  Always focused, and everyone on the team seems to enjoy him and gets along well with him.

Luis Suarez... oh, wait...

Look at that image of Souness in 84 walking out in Roma's own stadium. Oozing utter arrogance and confidence, that's a captain!!

Incredible photo that, I wouldn't want to let that man down!!

Check out Bruce behind him, could he be more chilled out!

I think Lovren will prove to be a no messing sort of guy so I'm eying him as the next leader. As much as I admire the leadership of Gerrard, he wasn't a born leader. He only became a leader because he led by example. Carragher was a far more natural captain and I just think we need that battle hardened attitude again. I think Lovren is going to show that.

I'm not convinced you need a captain who is an on field motivator. Any player who doesn't find wearing the shirt of Liverpool FC motivation enough knows where the door is. So I'm more looking for the guy who is going to find that spark of magic to pull us back into games (as Stevie has done many times not least Istanbul and Cardiff). So I'm looking at Sterling Lallana or daft as this might sound Coutinho.

If I were a betting man, I'd put money on Lovren.

If not him, Henderson.

Henderson for me

Wouldn't mind a bit of Emre Can!

Then guys like Hendo, Lovren, Lallana or Sakho.

Not Henderson just yet.  He has to mature.  I see him a lot of the time and his shoulders drop.  I mean he puts the shift in no shadow of doubt, but of yet he isn't on top of my list for captaincy.  Things can change and fully understand the notion.  But not convinced yet.  I think Lovren could be the man myself or Sakho when the time is right for Gerrard to hand over the arm band. 

I'm not convinced you need a captain who is an on field motivator. Any player who doesn't find wearing the shirt of Liverpool FC motivation enough knows where the door is. So I'm more looking for the guy who is going to find that spark of magic to pull us back into games (as Stevie has done many times not least Istanbul and Cardiff). So I'm looking at Sterling Lallana or daft as this might sound Coutinho.

no offense but have you played competitively?  A key characteristic imo is that on field motivation.  if the going is good.. the captian makes sure the lads see the game out... if the going is bad, the captain needs to steady the troops and push for goals.  the onfield direction a solid/well respected captain provides is extremely important. 

Agger, I'm serious. The next captain should be Agger, or Skrtel, but they need to prove their worth this season. It's now or never. We have a good squad(except we miss a striker and hopeflly we'll sign 2 fullbacks soon), but next season we have to compete for the EPL and it will be the hardest EPL we'll witness IMO.

Agger, I'm serious. The next captain should be Agger, or Skrtel, but they need to prove their worth this season. It's now or never. We have a good squad(except we miss a striker and hopeflly we'll sign 2 fullbacks soon), but next season we have to compete for the EPL and it will be the hardest EPL we'll witness IMO.

Maybe someone that is actually going to be playing for us in a couple of years when Stevie retires, would be a better option! No?

Maybe someone that is actually going to be playing for us in a couple of years when Stevie retires, would be a better option! No?

Was thinking the same.

I struggle to think that Dagger will still be playing for us come September never mind captaining the side when Stevie calls it a day.

I pondered the thought of Hendersom, but as strong as his play leads by example with his energy and passion I think he is not a strong enough individual yet to captain our players and to boss them around when needed etc.

We need a captain with passion, heart and it shows in their football as well as there aggression when comanding others, for me the option is Sakho. His already captained PSG at such a young age, his the future captain of France imo. He'd be perfect a true warrior.

he is not a strong enough individual yet to captain our players and to boss them around when needed etc.

It's still a good few years away at least so plenty of time for that to change. No stranger to being captain either is he? Wasn't he England U'21 Captain?

Henderson

It's still a good few years away at least so plenty of time for that to change. No stranger to being captain either is he? Wasn't he England U'21 Captain?

That is true, i just think for me Sakho seems more of a leader to me. Don't get me wrong i would love Hendo to be our captain at some point, just think Sakho would be better suited for when Gerrard retires.

Does anyone think Gerrard might want to pass on the arm band? Like what happened with Hyppia and Gerrard.

Hasn't Henderson been England U-21 captain?

I'm not necessarily saying he's a future captain for us, I'm just sure I read this somewhere.

Hasn't Henderson been England U-21 captain?

I'm not necessarily saying he's a future captain for us, I'm just sure I read this somewhere.

Yeah you and 7KK7 are correct. From what I've seen in matches i just see it being easier for Sakho to command the team than Hendo, but as 7KK7 pointed our there are a good couple of years for him to change that (in my eyes)

Yeah you and 7KK7 are correct. From what I've seen in matches i just see it being easier for Sakho to command the team than Hendo, but as 7KK7 pointed our there are a good couple of years for him to change that (in my eyes)

I get where you're coming from regarding Sakho, but if memory serves he's amongst the players BR said made up a quiet team.
OK, some of that is down to language, and maybe when his English is better he could be worth a shout.
It's a really hard call to make, and I'd only say so far that I prefer the captain to be a midfielder or defender, although I have no idea why 

That is true, i just think for me Sakho seems more of a leader to me. Don't get me wrong i would love Hendo to be our captain at some point, just think Sakho would be better suited for when Gerrard retires. 
No doubt Stevie will have a big say in who follows him,  which is why he'll probably suggest Henderson.

Does anyone think Gerrard might want to pass on the arm band? Like what happened with Hyppia and Gerrard.

I get the impression Sami wasn't really comfortable with being captain, that's why he only held it for 1 season. If Gerrard could take the captaincy with him when he retires, I'd say he would

I get where you're coming from regarding Sakho, but if memory serves he's amongst the players BR said made up a quiet team.
OK, some of that is down to language, and maybe when his English is better he could be worth a shout.
It's a really hard call to make, and I'd only say so far that I prefer the captain to be a midfielder or defender, although I have no idea why 

Yeah true but i'd like Sakho to be given more games this season and then to judge him, to me he looks like a born leader but obviously Gerrard is still captain so its not up to him to be commanding higher up the field that is Gerrards job.

I personally would like to see Gerrard hand on the armband before he retires, to give the new captain a chance to assert his authority with enough time before Gerrard leaves. And by Gerrard allowing such a thing to happen it shows the belief he has in the new captain to step up and carry on leading the team.

I get the impression Sami wasn't really comfortable with being captain, that's why he only held it for 1 season. If Gerrard could take the captaincy with him when he retires, I'd say he would

Fair enough, and i wouldn't have a major issue with that but i do have reasons as to why I'd like him to hand it over.

Henderson has captain written all over him , he is maturing into a top top player and will be a great leader......when the time comes...he thru time and experience will lead LFC in the future that I have no doubt,
However,

I think we have a more natural leader in Lovren and I believe he will become our captain when Stevie retires, possibly next season,
History tells us that most of our captains are generally in the back four where they can see all before them , from big Ronnie Yates, Tommy Smith, to crazy Horse, Tommo, Jocky Hansen etc,
I love tradition and I think Brendan sees tradition as a important part of our club today, and I think he will appoint Lovren as VC if Daniel decides to move on.

YNWA

Personally I would give it to someone like Henderson. It will be what, 2 years time roughly when Gerrard will hang up the boots. Henderson should have matured by then and hopefully kicked on it terms of being a big game player etc and being really vocal. Especially with Gerrard playing less.

I have a feeling that Rodgers will go for Lovren tho. A leader from the back and a view of the whole pitch.

Personally I like captains who are in any position except in attack. Players in defence or in central midfield who can see everything ahead of them (or in the case of midfielders, what's going on both behind and in front of them) take my personal preference.

A captain for me also has to be a great motivator (obviously) with the ability (and the balls) to pull up those not pulling their weight, sometimes you need that kick up the arse to find the next gear.

A captain needs to also set an example both on AND off the field, an exemplar of 'Top Professional'. They must receive (command?) the respect of not only the players, but the staff and also the fans.

I think a captain also needs to have that extra 'something'... with Stevie it is the 'Liverpool born and bred, Liverpool through and through' factor that puts him up there as not only one of THE greatest captains LFC has ever seen, but one of THE best captains in the entire world of football. His desire, drive, class and love for Liverpool FC are all of the things that make us love the man.

So as I sit and write this post, a captain has to make me feel proud of supporting our club (JT's antics over at the chavs sicken me) and their love for the club also plays a massive part of who I believe should be the next captain.

Before recent developments, I'd have said Daniel Agger without even having to think. As for now? Despite the sentimental post, I cannot put my finger on one person in particular.

I am torn between Jordan Henderson and (in the next 4-5 years) John Flanagan. Hendo looks like a player who will be with us much further beyond his current contract and seems to love playing for the club, has shown so much improvement and looks like he can command a team. Flanagan is the sentimental choice for me, and I am fully aware he has a lot of development still to come, but in the next 4-5 years, something inside me hopes that he will grow into a leader of LFC.

Henderson for sure.For some reason he perforns better in the absense of Gerrard.In 2 years he will be bossing the league.

I would love Henderson to be our next captain & to be our new vice captain.

He has come through adversity to become an influential figure for us, he is an example to follow with his immense work rate and passion, seems well respected by us fans, players and staff, but most importantly, he comes across as humble and genuine.

He is fast becoming a great player, possibly world class, he really does have all the hallmarks of becoming a great leader.

Another thing I'd like to point out, with us being an English/British club, I always preferred a native English speaking captain, simply for the communication aspect.

Henderson has captain written all over him , he is maturing into a top top player 

If only he could have been able to play alongside a top, top player it would have been beneficial.

Alas...

If only he could have been able to play alongside a top, top player it would have been beneficial.

Alas...

Sorry lad, I can't quite grasp what your getting at , would you please explain what you mean ?

YNWA

Sorry lad, I can't quite grasp what your getting at , would you please explain what you mean ?

YNWA

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/alex-ferguson-liverpools-steven-gerrard-2479504

My dry sense of humour mate, sorry.

Personally I like captains who are in any position except in attack. Players in defence or in central midfield who can see everything ahead of them (or in the case of midfielders, what's going on both behind and in front of them) take my personal preference.

A captain for me also has to be a great motivator (obviously) with the ability (and the balls) to pull up those not pulling their weight, sometimes you need that kick up the arse to find the next gear.

A captain needs to also set an example both on AND off the field, an exemplar of 'Top Professional'. They must receive (command?) the respect of not only the players, but the staff and also the fans.

I think a captain also needs to have that extra 'something'... with Stevie it is the 'Liverpool born and bred, Liverpool through and through' factor that puts him up there as not only one of THE greatest captains LFC has ever seen, but one of THE best captains in the entire world of football. His desire, drive, class and love for Liverpool FC are all of the things that make us love the man.

So as I sit and write this post, a captain has to make me feel proud of supporting our club (JT's antics over at the chavs sicken me) and their love for the club also plays a massive part of who I believe should be the next captain.

Before recent developments, I'd have said Daniel Agger without even having to think. As for now? Despite the sentimental post, I cannot put my finger on one person in particular.

I am torn between Jordan Henderson and (in the next 4-5 years) John Flanagan. Hendo looks like a player who will be with us much further beyond his current contract and seems to love playing for the club, has shown so much improvement and looks like he can command a team. Flanagan is the sentimental choice for me, and I am fully aware he has a lot of development still to come, but in the next 4-5 years, something inside me hopes that he will grow into a leader of LFC.

Top posting fella, agree with most of it, I hope your right in that both Jordan & Flanno are candidates but only down the road in say 6-7 yrs time especially in Flanno's case,

Who knows what may happen but like I mentioned I think Brendan will opt for Lovren, we've not had the authoratative figure since Carra retired and we missed that last season, for that reason I think Brendan sees Lovren as our organiser and bring more stability to the back 4,

Makes sense to have a natural leader as captain IMO, but firstly he has to earn his stripes as VC first, but only if and when Agger decides his future.


YNWA

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/alex-ferguson-liverpools-steven-gerrard-2479504

My dry sense of humour mate, sorry.

Ha, gotcha mate, forgot about that kunt spouting sh*te about our skipper,

No need for apologies either ,

YNWA

Top posting fella, agree with most of it, I hope your right in that both Jordan & Flanno are candidates but only down the road in say 6-7 yrs time especially in Flanno's case,

Who knows what may happen but like I mentioned I think Brendan will opt for Lovren, we've not had the authoratative figure since Carra retired and we missed that last season, for that reason I think Brendan sees Lovren as our organiser and bring more stability to the back 4,

Makes sense to have a natural leader as captain IMO, but firstly he has to earn his stripes as VC first, but only if and when Agger decides his future.


YNWA

Cheers, mate. I just feel personally that being captain of our club should be earned and not simply gifted to someone who has recently joined.

Obviously the flip side of that is someone like Lovren, who Brendan himself has earmarked as the "leader" we have been missing, coming in and being made captain, then theoretically, due to his "leadership qualities" which he has been specifically brought in for, could be the man to enforce his authority upon the squad and carry the team under his leadership.

If in the next couple of seasons he shows those leadership qualities in marshalling our defence then he could possibly earn the captaincy.

I agree on the Flanagan point, mate. He has a long way to go, but I really do hope that the lad makes it big with us.

Cheers, mate. I just feel personally that being captain of our club should be earned and not simply gifted to someone who has recently joined.

Obviously the flip side of that is someone like Lovren, who Brendan himself has earmarked as the "leader" we have been missing, coming in and being made captain, then theoretically, due to his "leadership qualities" which he has been specifically brought in for, could be the man to enforce his authority upon the squad and carry the team under his leadership.

If in the next couple of seasons he shows those leadership qualities in marshalling our defence then he could possibly earn the captaincy.

I agree on the Flanagan point, mate. He has a long way to go, but I really do hope that the lad makes it big with us.

Fairy muff mate, whether Lovren has to wait for his stripes or not he's gonna be boss for us, quality defender he is, there is no way we are going to concede anywhere near the 50+ like last season that's for sure,

YNWA

no offense but have you played competitively?

Nope. But I still feel I would run myself into the ground wearing the red shirt. Maybe it's the difference between a fan and a player in that we have different motivations.

no offense but have you played competitively?

I don't think playing competitively has anything to do with understanding the importance of a motivator in any walks of life :p

I'm not convinced you need a captain who is an on field motivator. Any player who doesn't find wearing the shirt of Liverpool FC motivation enough knows where the door is. So I'm more looking for the guy who is going to find that spark of magic to pull us back into games (as Stevie has done many times not least Istanbul and Cardiff).

I agree, not all captains need to be great on field motivators, as long as there's one or two in the team, it doesn't matter, but ideally, I think it would be better for a captain to not only be a great player, but to be a motivator too, as he'll be the player all will look to for inspiration and leadership.

Nope. But I still feel I would run myself into the ground wearing the red shirt. Maybe it's the difference between a fan and a player in that we have different motivations.

I don't think this is a case of whether you are a fan or not a fan and just a player.

So you are saying that if things weren't going for you, whether it'll be tactical or a goal against, no matter how much you love the club, you would not feel discourage? Because I certainly would, and I'm 99.9% sure that others would feel the same. Whether you would run yourself to the ground wearing the red shirt or not, if it's going against you, I'm certain morale and motivation would drop, and when it drops, this is where your motivational leader or player comes into play.

In Hendo's favour he never shuts up on the pitch. Always see him screaming at someone to do something.

Really old fashioned, get your ass in to gear and "in your face" kind of character on the pitch. Probably needs a bit more maturing but that will come. Could definitely see him captain.

Could end up being someone not at the club yet either.

tought that's why we bought llalana? natural replacement for stevie?

if not, lovren or hendo i reckon.

Hendo for me, based on the first team regulars / new boys.

Rossiter is not a bad shout from DLS though.....

Sterling, lets turn him into a superstar.

Jordan Henderson. Has all the right attributes. Lovren as VC.

If someone told me Jordan Henderson could be a Liverpool captain a few years ago I'd have struggled to contain my laughter but after watching him this pre-season I do see a maturity developing in his game.

Someone pointed out (apologies for not looking it up) how they took pleasure in how Jordan barked out at one of the Saints players in the early minutes for a poor challenge, I took pleasure in seeing that too. It's something he's adding to his game, the confidence not only in his place in the team but also in himself as a man is beginning to show.

I also heard him barking out support to loads of lads yesterday and he always has a positive attitude. Leading by example with that workload too, you'd be hard to knock it. So while I still don't think he's captain material right now the ingredients are coming together, should Stevie last a couple more years it would be foolish of me to repeat the mistakes of the past and deny that Jordan just might make it and I'd be delighted for that lad if he could. Amazing what stopping messing about with your hair can do for a bloke

Lovren or Henderson for me.

Lovren just edges it though, was very impressed at the way he marshalled that defence yesterday. As my brother pointed out to me - we've finally found that calm leader at the back we've been missing since Hyypia left.

Lovren just edges it though, was very impressed at the way he marshalled that defence yesterday.

Yep - heard someone else suggest it.  Completely bizarre that after just one senior game for us it can be uttered but he did indeed look like 'that kind of player'.  We shall see!

Yep - heard someone else suggest it.  Completely bizarre that after just one senior game for us it can be uttered but he did indeed look like 'that kind of player'.  We shall see!

Same way at Hillsborough in 99, we heard a few voices saying "That's they player we've been looking for since Hanson retired" when describing Hyypia's first game for the reds.

If Lovren can go anywhere near to emulating the big Finn, I'd be very happy.

Yep - heard someone else suggest it.  Completely bizarre that after just one senior game for us it can be uttered but he did indeed look like 'that kind of player'.  We shall see!

Odd isn't it, I'll admit he was in my mind while I was writing the post about Hendo. Much like you suggest though after just 1 game it feels not quite right to put his name forward at this time.

Shows what a good impression he's made though.

Toss up between Hendo & Lovren for me, would be happy with both as serving Captain & Vice.

Yet to be signed!!

Was seriously considering Henderson but Lovren is right there in the mix, he does seem to have an air of authority about him.

Sorry lad, I can't quite grasp what your getting at , would you please explain what you mean ?

YNWA

thank fook for that he had me well confused

I don't know simply because I'm afraid to say.

The Vice-Captain's armband seems to be the kiss of death and I like Jordan too much to hope he get's the nod for that particular accolade.

That said; it's great to see so many 'nominate' him as future captain. He was captain of England U 21 so his leadership abilities (along with his composure, athleticism and power) have always been there. It'll be no surprise to me if he one day captains the Reds.   

Hendo, Lovren, Lallana. We have plenty of vocal leaders in the squad now that can all vie for Stevie G's captains band over the next two seasons.

Interesting. We should have a poll.

Lovren 1/3

Hendo 4/1

Anybody else 16/1

Mario Balotelli

Mario Balotelli

He is definitely an example for youngsters 

our present Vice captain is agger, but I guess this will change in the coming days/weeks

So I guess  who will be our next VC will be an indication
 my guess is henderson- or even Sturridge , it will boost his confidence
 
Who ever  will be chosen , will be an honour for him to VC/or Captain LIVERPOOL

YNWA

For me, Lallana, he must have been brought in to do the job once Gerrard retires. You must be a pretty good captain to get from League 1 to a comfortable mid table team.

Sakho would be vice captain, Henderson next. Sakho has previous captain experience at PSG, he was a young captain there and did well before they got money invested into. Henderson next as brings passion and hard work to the team, which is needed at times.

For me, Lallana, he must have been brought in to do the job once Gerrard retires. You must be a pretty good captain to get from League 1 to a comfortable mid table team.

Sakho would be vice captain, Henderson next. Sakho has previous captain experience at PSG, he was a young captain there and did well before they got money invested into. Henderson next as brings passion and hard work to the team, which is needed at times.

Taking his position on the pitch and taking the captaincy are two very very different things.

With the squad we have now considering departures it would be Henderson.

Respect of your squad is paramount and you can only earn that from battling with them out on the pitch and earning that respect.

Sahko has played very little and is still learning the club and language...Lallana has not played but a small bit in pre-season.

If SG left today I think we would see Hendo (Captain)/Lovren (Vice-Captain)....I would really have a hard time figuring out who else it could be.

I always prefer for captain someone that has been in club for a longer time. That is why Hendo would be my first choice. It would be weird for me that someone that just joined the club is named as vice captain until he proves himself.

we've finally found that calm leader at the back we've been missing since Hyypia left.

he looks the leader of men. disciplined, determined, vocal, hates losing and hates people slacking off. Him captain, Hendo vice captain.