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      ConzS
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      Re: Next LFC captain
      Reply #46: Aug 07, 2014 07:37:49 pm
      Sorry lad, I can't quite grasp what your getting at , would you please explain what you mean ?

      YNWA
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      Reply #47: Aug 07, 2014 07:38:57 pm
      Personally I like captains who are in any position except in attack. Players in defence or in central midfield who can see everything ahead of them (or in the case of midfielders, what's going on both behind and in front of them) take my personal preference.

      A captain for me also has to be a great motivator (obviously) with the ability (and the balls) to pull up those not pulling their weight, sometimes you need that kick up the arse to find the next gear.

      A captain needs to also set an example both on AND off the field, an exemplar of 'Top Professional'. They must receive (command?) the respect of not only the players, but the staff and also the fans.

      I think a captain also needs to have that extra 'something'... with Stevie it is the 'Liverpool born and bred, Liverpool through and through' factor that puts him up there as not only one of THE greatest captains LFC has ever seen, but one of THE best captains in the entire world of football. His desire, drive, class and love for Liverpool FC are all of the things that make us love the man.

      So as I sit and write this post, a captain has to make me feel proud of supporting our club (JT's antics over at the chavs sicken me) and their love for the club also plays a massive part of who I believe should be the next captain.

      Before recent developments, I'd have said Daniel Agger without even having to think. As for now? Despite the sentimental post, I cannot put my finger on one person in particular.

      I am torn between Jordan Henderson and (in the next 4-5 years) John Flanagan. Hendo looks like a player who will be with us much further beyond his current contract and seems to love playing for the club, has shown so much improvement and looks like he can command a team. Flanagan is the sentimental choice for me, and I am fully aware he has a lot of development still to come, but in the next 4-5 years, something inside me hopes that he will grow into a leader of LFC.



      Top posting fella, agree with most of it, I hope your right in that both Jordan & Flanno are candidates but only down the road in say 6-7 yrs time especially in Flanno's case,

      Who knows what may happen but like I mentioned I think Brendan will opt for Lovren, we've not had the authoratative figure since Carra retired and we missed that last season, for that reason I think Brendan sees Lovren as our organiser and bring more stability to the back 4,

      Makes sense to have a natural leader as captain IMO, but firstly he has to earn his stripes as VC first, but only if and when Agger decides his future.


      YNWA

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      Re: Next LFC captain
      Reply #48: Aug 07, 2014 07:44:32 pm


      Ha, gotcha mate, forgot about that kunt spouting sh*te about our skipper,

      No need for apologies either ,

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      Re: Next LFC captain
      Reply #49: Aug 07, 2014 08:06:30 pm
      Top posting fella, agree with most of it, I hope your right in that both Jordan & Flanno are candidates but only down the road in say 6-7 yrs time especially in Flanno's case,

      Who knows what may happen but like I mentioned I think Brendan will opt for Lovren, we've not had the authoratative figure since Carra retired and we missed that last season, for that reason I think Brendan sees Lovren as our organiser and bring more stability to the back 4,

      Makes sense to have a natural leader as captain IMO, but firstly he has to earn his stripes as VC first, but only if and when Agger decides his future.


      YNWA



      Cheers, mate. I just feel personally that being captain of our club should be earned and not simply gifted to someone who has recently joined.

      Obviously the flip side of that is someone like Lovren, who Brendan himself has earmarked as the "leader" we have been missing, coming in and being made captain, then theoretically, due to his "leadership qualities" which he has been specifically brought in for, could be the man to enforce his authority upon the squad and carry the team under his leadership.

      If in the next couple of seasons he shows those leadership qualities in marshalling our defence then he could possibly earn the captaincy.

      I agree on the Flanagan point, mate. He has a long way to go, but I really do hope that the lad makes it big with us.
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      Reply #50: Aug 07, 2014 09:21:02 pm
      Cheers, mate. I just feel personally that being captain of our club should be earned and not simply gifted to someone who has recently joined.

      Obviously the flip side of that is someone like Lovren, who Brendan himself has earmarked as the "leader" we have been missing, coming in and being made captain, then theoretically, due to his "leadership qualities" which he has been specifically brought in for, could be the man to enforce his authority upon the squad and carry the team under his leadership.

      If in the next couple of seasons he shows those leadership qualities in marshalling our defence then he could possibly earn the captaincy.

      I agree on the Flanagan point, mate. He has a long way to go, but I really do hope that the lad makes it big with us.


      Fairy muff mate, whether Lovren has to wait for his stripes or not he's gonna be boss for us, quality defender he is, there is no way we are going to concede anywhere near the 50+ like last season that's for sure,

      YNWA
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      Re: Next LFC captain
      Reply #51: Aug 07, 2014 11:25:10 pm
      no offense but have you played competitively?

      Nope. But I still feel I would run myself into the ground wearing the red shirt. Maybe it's the difference between a fan and a player in that we have different motivations.


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      Reply #52: Aug 08, 2014 01:09:49 am
      no offense but have you played competitively?

      I don't think playing competitively has anything to do with understanding the importance of a motivator in any walks of life :p

      I'm not convinced you need a captain who is an on field motivator. Any player who doesn't find wearing the shirt of Liverpool FC motivation enough knows where the door is. So I'm more looking for the guy who is going to find that spark of magic to pull us back into games (as Stevie has done many times not least Istanbul and Cardiff).

      I agree, not all captains need to be great on field motivators, as long as there's one or two in the team, it doesn't matter, but ideally, I think it would be better for a captain to not only be a great player, but to be a motivator too, as he'll be the player all will look to for inspiration and leadership.

      Nope. But I still feel I would run myself into the ground wearing the red shirt. Maybe it's the difference between a fan and a player in that we have different motivations.

      I don't think this is a case of whether you are a fan or not a fan and just a player.

      So you are saying that if things weren't going for you, whether it'll be tactical or a goal against, no matter how much you love the club, you would not feel discourage? Because I certainly would, and I'm 99.9% sure that others would feel the same. Whether you would run yourself to the ground wearing the red shirt or not, if it's going against you, I'm certain morale and motivation would drop, and when it drops, this is where your motivational leader or player comes into play.
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      Reply #53: Aug 08, 2014 07:19:07 am
      In Hendo's favour he never shuts up on the pitch. Always see him screaming at someone to do something.

      Really old fashioned, get your ass in to gear and "in your face" kind of character on the pitch. Probably needs a bit more maturing but that will come. Could definitely see him captain.

      Could end up being someone not at the club yet either.
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      Re: Next LFC captain
      Reply #54: Aug 08, 2014 10:03:13 am
      tought that's why we bought llalana? natural replacement for stevie?

      if not, lovren or hendo i reckon.
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      Re: Next LFC captain
      Reply #55: Aug 17, 2014 01:04:12 pm
      Hendo for me, based on the first team regulars / new boys.

      Rossiter is not a bad shout from DLS though.....
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      Re: Next LFC captain
      Reply #56: Aug 17, 2014 01:06:08 pm
      Sterling, lets turn him into a superstar.
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      Reply #57: Aug 18, 2014 12:41:15 pm
      Jordan Henderson. Has all the right attributes. Lovren as VC.
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      Reply #58: Aug 18, 2014 01:06:03 pm
      If someone told me Jordan Henderson could be a Liverpool captain a few years ago I'd have struggled to contain my laughter but after watching him this pre-season I do see a maturity developing in his game.

      Someone pointed out (apologies for not looking it up) how they took pleasure in how Jordan barked out at one of the Saints players in the early minutes for a poor challenge, I took pleasure in seeing that too. It's something he's adding to his game, the confidence not only in his place in the team but also in himself as a man is beginning to show.

      I also heard him barking out support to loads of lads yesterday and he always has a positive attitude. Leading by example with that workload too, you'd be hard to knock it. So while I still don't think he's captain material right now the ingredients are coming together, should Stevie last a couple more years it would be foolish of me to repeat the mistakes of the past and deny that Jordan just might make it and I'd be delighted for that lad if he could. Amazing what stopping messing about with your hair can do for a bloke :D
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      Reply #59: Aug 18, 2014 02:58:18 pm
      Lovren or Henderson for me.

      Lovren just edges it though, was very impressed at the way he marshalled that defence yesterday. As my brother pointed out to me - we've finally found that calm leader at the back we've been missing since Hyypia left.
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      Reply #60: Aug 18, 2014 03:08:33 pm
      Lovren just edges it though, was very impressed at the way he marshalled that defence yesterday.

      Yep - heard someone else suggest it.  Completely bizarre that after just one senior game for us it can be uttered but he did indeed look like 'that kind of player'.  We shall see!
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      Reply #61: Aug 18, 2014 03:14:31 pm
      Yep - heard someone else suggest it.  Completely bizarre that after just one senior game for us it can be uttered but he did indeed look like 'that kind of player'.  We shall see!

      Same way at Hillsborough in 99, we heard a few voices saying "That's they player we've been looking for since Hanson retired" when describing Hyypia's first game for the reds.

      If Lovren can go anywhere near to emulating the big Finn, I'd be very happy.
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      Reply #62: Aug 18, 2014 03:14:35 pm
      Yep - heard someone else suggest it.  Completely bizarre that after just one senior game for us it can be uttered but he did indeed look like 'that kind of player'.  We shall see!

      Odd isn't it, I'll admit he was in my mind while I was writing the post about Hendo. Much like you suggest though after just 1 game it feels not quite right to put his name forward at this time.

      Shows what a good impression he's made though.
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      Reply #63: Aug 18, 2014 04:08:28 pm
      Toss up between Hendo & Lovren for me, would be happy with both as serving Captain & Vice.
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      Reply #64: Aug 18, 2014 04:41:57 pm
      Yet to be signed!!
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      Reply #65: Aug 18, 2014 04:51:52 pm
      Was seriously considering Henderson but Lovren is right there in the mix, he does seem to have an air of authority about him.
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      Re: Next LFC captain
      Reply #66: Aug 18, 2014 05:48:18 pm
      Sorry lad, I can't quite grasp what your getting at , would you please explain what you mean ?

      YNWA


      thank fook for that he had me well confused
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      Reply #67: Aug 25, 2014 10:48:31 am
      I don't know simply because I'm afraid to say.

      The Vice-Captain's armband seems to be the kiss of death and I like Jordan too much to hope he get's the nod for that particular accolade.

      That said; it's great to see so many 'nominate' him as future captain. He was captain of England U 21 so his leadership abilities (along with his composure, athleticism and power) have always been there. It'll be no surprise to me if he one day captains the Reds.   ;D
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      Re: Next LFC captain
      Reply #68: Aug 25, 2014 10:55:34 am
      Hendo, Lovren, Lallana. We have plenty of vocal leaders in the squad now that can all vie for Stevie G's captains band over the next two seasons.

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