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      The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it

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      Paisleydalglish
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      The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Aug 07, 2014 10:47:00 am
      I'm not one for getting to involved in transfer talk to be honest, I simply don't find myself getting interested in the talk of what may or may not happen, I prefer to assess once they are through the door, whoever they may be.

      However I was thinking this morning about making up our 25 man squad, where we stand and what else we need to add and then who needs moving on that won't get a squad place.

      As we stand I think it's looking like this ( note, I've added Moreno as I've heard it will happen, it's a matter of time)


                        Mignolet
                          Jones

      Manquillo  Lovren Sakho Enrique
      Johnson.    Skrtel Toure   Moreno
      Flanno

                         Gerrard
                            Can

             Hendo.             Coutinho
              Allen.                Lallana


                       Sturridge
      Sterling.       Lambert   Markovic
       Ibe     


      That's the bulk of it right now, 22 players, essentially 3 places available.
      Flanno can play either side so once Moreno comes in you would think we are done at the back.. But that leaves these in the squad still
      Kelly
      Agger
      Coates
      Reina
      Illori
      Robinson
      McLaughlin
      Now Agger, Reina look gone.. Coates I would imagine will go too, either loan or permanently, shame I think, I genuinely think there is a top defender there who Tim Vickery was absolutely spot on about when we signed him, but he also said in 3-4 years he would be great.. I just think someone else will get the benefit. McLaughlin will likely go on loan, Robinson is gone, just if they find a buyer or he goes in loan too. Leaving Kelly and Illori, both can't stay, both I like, I'd be tempted to find Kelly a club on loan where he will play 40 games and see where he is at next summer.. Illori I'd be tempted to keep, make sure he starts in the league cup, have him around the squad to develop and settle then possibly look at a second half of the season loan again.

      Midfield I have placed Cou and Lallana in there as I think they will both get plenty of time in the point of the three or wide up front..
      The rest of the mid options in the squad.
      Assaidi
      Suso
      Lucas

      Assaidi will go before the end of the window
      Suso, I still think there is a player there but I wonder where he gets his games and I'd probably want to spend the time developing Ibe ahead of him and give him the minutes.. Shane really.
      Lucas, I don't think we will find a buyer on his wages, it may be a loan near the end of the window where we pick up some of the wage.. Or he could yet stay.

      Forwards
      Both central and wide speak for themselves above, I'd give Ibe a place and I see cout and Lallana playing up wide.. However we look light through the middle

      Borini will go before the window closes

      So 3 spots left
      Forward (possibly 2 in an ideal world but don't see it)

      2 spots..
      Possibly 2 of Suso if we don't sign a second forward but again I wonder how he gets his minutes.. If not Lucas and Illori may well get those two places

      25 man squad
      Mignolet
      Jones

      Manquillo
      Johnson
      Flanagan
      Lovren
      Skrtel
      Sakho
      Toure
      Enrique
      Moreno

      Gerrard
      Can
      Hendo
      Allen
      Coutinho
      Lallana
      Lucas

      Sturridge
      Lambert
      Ibe
      Sterling
      Markovic
      New forward

      I think that's how we go in. I just hope we get a dynamic new forward in that spot and I'll be honest I'm happy with that squad to push us on
                   
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      Re: The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Reply #1: Aug 07, 2014 10:50:49 am
      Bare in mind, I'm fairly sure u21's don't count, so the likes of sterling and Ibe etc wouldn't count towards the 25
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      Re: The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Reply #2: Aug 07, 2014 10:52:18 am
      Bare in mind, I'm fairly sure u21's don't count, so the likes of sterling and Ibe etc wouldn't count towards the 25

      Yeah fair point but you have to think 25 is a fair number and you have to get and give them minutes.

      But yes you're right

      You don't want a bloated squad though, I'd prefer a 25 we can rely on
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      Re: The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Reply #3: Aug 07, 2014 11:07:15 am
      Looking at your squad Jon makes it even more obvious we need a striker as a priority before the window closes.
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      Reply #4: Aug 07, 2014 11:21:19 am
      Looking at your squad Jon makes it even more obvious we need a striker as a priority before the window closes.

      Yeah, it's the obvious gap in the 25, but if we do add one there I think the 25 looks pretty good.

      People can get obsessed by what's not happening at times mate, yes we need another forward, I'm sure they know it and I'm sure we are working on it however we have a solid squad with good quality depth in it, we also have match winners like Studge, Cou, Raheem, Steven.. Cracking kids who I can't wait to watch develop in Ibe, Markovic, Manquillo..
      Yes there are a couple if up grades needed, but you can't do that over night, the squad though has more depth in quality options than it had for a long time.

      With that last quality addition up front then we should be looking forward to the season and embrace our lads rather than worry and gripe

      In my opinion
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      Re: The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Reply #5: Aug 07, 2014 12:21:41 pm
      GKs
      Mignolet, NewGK, Jones

      Defenders
      Johnson, Manquillo, Lovren, Skrtel, Toure, Sakho, Coates, Enrique, Moreno, Flanagan

      Midfield-3
      Stevie, Can, Hendo, Allen, Coutinho, Lucas

      Front-3
      Sturridge, Lambert, Markovic, Lallana, New Forward


      So considering Moreno done, with a new GK and a Striker, its only 24. Sterling, Ibe, Tex will come from the U-21s. Ilori & Suso out on loan

      Expected to be sold - Agger, Kelly, Borini, Assaidi, Robinson. A CM might be our priority in Jan if Lucas is sold this month
      « Last Edit: Aug 08, 2014 04:31:54 am by Vicks86 »
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      Re: The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Reply #6: Aug 09, 2014 01:06:05 pm
      Do you have to name u21s in your squad?

      Anyway the 25 man squad for me would be

      Mignolet, Jones, new Gk

      Flanno, Manquillo, Sakho Lovern, Skrtel, Illori, Coates, Moreno, Enrique

      Gerrard, Can, Lallana, Suso, Allen, Henderson, Markovic, Coutinho, Ibe

      Sterling, Lambert, Sturridge, New fwd,

      Assuming Moreno is as good as done I think a goalkeeper and a top forward will complete the squad. If Suso is part of the Moreno deal then Teixera steps up.

      And the 25 is based on the notion that we sell or loan out Johnson, Toure, Lucas, Borini, Assaidi, Kelly, Robinson
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      Re: The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Reply #7: Aug 09, 2014 02:49:54 pm
      Players not under 21 years old.

      Mignolet
      New GK
      Jones
      Flanagan
      Enrique
      Touré
      Skrtel
      Coates
      Sakho
      Agger
      Lovren
      New fall back
      Lallana
      Gerrard
      Lambert
      Coutinho
      Henderson
      Sturridge
      New striker
      Manquillo U21
      Marković U21
      Can U21
      Sterling U21
      Ibe U21
      Suso U21.

      Since I put 19 over 21 players where only 6 are English there is enough room for 4 more players in the above list and have up to a 23 man squad unless we add more 2 English players to reach the cap of 25.

      I would loan below

      Yesil
      Ilori
      Teixera
      Alberto

      Below would be sold.

      Borini
      Kelly
      Lucas
      Allen
      Johnson
      Assaidi.
      « Last Edit: Aug 09, 2014 03:20:27 pm by Ribapuru »
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      Reply #8: Aug 10, 2014 08:14:08 am
      We will be in 4 competitions this year and like BR said we had a very thin squad last year so I don't  think having 'to many' players will be a problem, lots under 21 and home grown.
      Would like to see a lot of the fringe players get games in the league cup, hoping Ibe can push on like Sterling has
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      Re: The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Reply #9: Aug 10, 2014 08:32:12 am
       KoloToure is reportedely close to go out to turkey

      http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/football/liverpool-man-set-for-turkey-move-35673/

      so probably another place in the list wil be vacant

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      Re: The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Reply #10: Aug 11, 2014 12:30:26 pm
      However I was thinking this morning about making up our 25 man squad

      Under 21's don't count.

      And you can have up to 17 overseas players I think.

      We only have 20 players classed as over 21 in the squad.
      http://www.anfield-online.co.uk/squad/firstteam.html

      And that includes Agger, Assaidi, Leiva, Borini and Johnson who all have question marks over their future.

      Means we could go into the season with a 15 man senior squad.

      Mignolet
      Brad Jones
      Enrique
      Toure
      Lovren
      Skrtel
      Sakho
      Coates
      Kelly
      Coutinho
      Henderson
      Lallana
      Allen
      Lambert
      Sturridge

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      Re: The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Reply #11: Aug 11, 2014 12:37:54 pm
      Under 21's don't count.

      And you can have up to 17 overseas players I think.

      We only have 20 players classed as over 21 in the squad.
      http://www.anfield-online.co.uk/squad/firstteam.html

      And that includes Agger, Assaidi, Leiva, Borini and Johnson who all have question marks over their future.

      Means we could go into the season with a 15 man senior squad.

      Mignolet
      Brad Jones
      Enrique
      Toure
      Lovren
      Skrtel
      Sakho
      Coates
      Kelly
      Coutinho
      Henderson
      Lallana
      Allen
      Lambert
      Sturridge



      Didn't we have the smallest in the league last season?

      That looks like one of the smallest again for the coming one.
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      Re: The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Reply #12: Aug 11, 2014 12:52:54 pm
      Didn't we have the smallest in the league last season?

      That looks like one of the smallest again for the coming one.

      We did and quite possibly we are. Although Southampton will probably get that one.
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      Re: The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Reply #13: Aug 11, 2014 03:00:55 pm
      Mignolet
      Jones

      Johnson
      Enrique
      Lovren
      Sakho
      Coates
      Kelly
      Skrtel

      Coutinho
      Henderson
      Lallana
      Lucas
      Allen
      Gerrard

      Sturridge
      Lambert
      Borini

      Those in italics are British home-grown (including Australian Jones who qualifies since he spent much of his youth career at Middlesbrough) and those in bold are the own-club homegrown. U-21s not needing to be registered will help us a lot as a few of our regulars will be in that age bracket (Sterling, Flanno, Markovic and Can etc) That leaves us a squad of 18. Going off the rules of footy manager (yes that how's I work out all this home-grown bollocks) you have to have 8 homegrown players in the squad with a minimum of 4 from your own club - if you don't have that then you have to leave ample space within the registering number.

      For example, we've only got 2 players registered as our own-club home-grown players therefore can only register a maximum of 23 players (leaving the other two slots open for the other 2 Liverpool produced players - which we don't have).

      So we've still a bit of room left to bring in a couple of new names, maybe see one or two leave as well.
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      Re: The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Reply #14: Aug 21, 2014 07:38:52 pm
      Without a shadow of a doubt our strongest squad in a very long time.

      No longer need we feel embarrassed by the lack of named talent on our subs bench. I also feel that we too can now 'boast' about the possibility of being able to field two credible first team PL sides.

      Just to be greedy though - I'd prefer a better 'capable' keeper to come in and at least give Mings competition. That for me would round it off nicely. We don't have to blow the whole lot this window and if need be, then at least we'll have a sizable amount come January. In the meantime, Brendan will at least have a better understanding of how the current crop have adapted and integrated and address any issues.
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      Re: The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Reply #15: Aug 21, 2014 08:38:37 pm
                          Mignolet
      Manquillo - Skrtel - Lovren - Moreno
                            Gerrard
                 Henderson - Coutinho
                             Sterling
                  Strurridge - Balotelli​*


                           Jones
      Johnson - Toure - Sakho - Enrique
                           Lucas
                       Can  -  Allen
      Markovic       Lambert      Lallana


      Plus you can add Borini, Agger, Ibe, Suso, Flanagan into the squad too.
                 â€‹
      *Assuming Balotelli actually signs for us.

      Two quality teams there, the first team capable of a title challenge if they're all fit and firing, and the second team would challenge for top 7/8 if fit and firing.

      In an ideal world I'd like another defensive midfielder as Gerrard's legs are going rapidly and Lucas isn't good enough to play first team for any length of period, but i think that's a position we'll find a solution for another time. Would like a back up keeper too.
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      Re: The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Reply #16: Aug 21, 2014 10:25:28 pm

      Off to Bolton on loan isn't he?
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      Re: The make up of our 25 man squad and the last couple of places in it
      Reply #17: Aug 21, 2014 10:32:38 pm
      Adding Balotelli and I think it is our strongest squad of players in many a year.
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      Reply #18: Aug 21, 2014 10:36:51 pm
      Adding Balotelli and I think it is our strongest squad of players in many a year.

      Probably going back to when we had Pepe, Carra, Hyypia and Gerrard at their best along with Xabi, Masch and Torres.
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      Reply #19: Aug 21, 2014 10:44:01 pm
      Probably going back to when we had Pepe, Carra, Hyypia and Gerrard at their best along with Xabi, Masch and Torres.

      Aye.

      Although the I think this squad may be even stronger.

      Very good first 11 back thenbut maybe not as much depth as we seem to have this season.
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      Reply #20: Aug 21, 2014 10:56:28 pm
      Aye.

      Although the I think this squad may be even stronger.

      Very good first 11 back thenbut maybe not as much depth as we seem to have this season.

      I do agree. It's good to finally see us have some depth to the squad. Nothing against the youngsters but when Rodgers took over it seemed like we were having to almost pin our hopes on them at one point, that we'd find the next gem basically.
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      Reply #21: Aug 21, 2014 11:19:25 pm
      Adding Balotelli and I think it is our strongest squad of players in many a year.

      Totally agree mate.

      Still think we're a world class player or 2 away from being right up there with Bayern/Barca/Real but the gap has seriously narrowed in terms of overall quality. Get CL again for the year later and I'm convinced we will start seeing Brendan going for the superstar or two to finish the recipe.

      Of course he could surprise us and bring home the title this year too! (12/1 will vanish once Mario signs)
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      Reply #22: Aug 21, 2014 11:30:02 pm
      Certainly a darn sight stronger squad of players available than this -

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