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      Malkay Mackay, Cardiff, Vincent Tan etc
      Aug 21, 2014 05:58:24 pm
      Turns out old Malky's a bit of a c**t.

      Malky Mackay texts: Former Cardiff manager accused of sending homophobic, racist and sexist messages

      Malky Mackay allegedly sent texts of a racist, sexist and homophobic nature during his time as manager of Cardiff City.

      The Welsh club, who sacked Mackay in December, have sent a dossier to the Football Association with details of the allegations, football's governing body have confirmed.

      An FA spokesman said: "The FA can confirm it is currently investigating this matter."

      News of the allegations have come quickly after it emerged the Scot would not be taking over at Crystal Palace. Mackay had been the favourite to replace Tony Pulis at Selhurst Park but he is no longer in the running.

      His relationship with Palace's sporting director Iain Moody, who worked as head of recruitment at Cardiff during Mackay's time in Wales, was considered to be in his favour. However, Moody has also allegedly been accused of wrongdoing by Cardiff.

      The Daily Mail claim two letters have been sent to the FA by Cardiff City outlining a series of texts. The Daily Mail claims the following messages were sent.

      'Fkn chinkys. Fk it. There's enough dogs in Cardiff for us all to go around.'

      On the arrival of South Korean international Kim Bo-Kyung

      'Go on, fat Phil. Nothing like a Jew that sees money slipping through his fingers'

      On football agent Phil Smith

      'He's a snake, a gay snake. Not to be trusted'

      On an official of another club

      'Not many white faces amongst that lot but worth considering.'

      On a list of potential signings

      'I hope she's looking after your needs. I bet you'd love a bounce on her falsies.'

      On a player's female agent

      A picture entitled Black Monopoly (where every square was a "Go to Jail" square)

      Sent to members of Cardiff's staff

      It is understood Crystal Palace owner Steve Parish became aware of the allegations following Mackay's departure from his previous club and in particular his longstanding row with the club's controversial chairman and owner Vincent Tan.

      Mackay was furious when he was sacked by Tan in December and immediately demanded compensation for breach of contract, making his feelings clear about the Malaysian billionaire. he later issued a public apology to Tan, praising his work for Cardiff and abandoning his claim for compensation.

      What motivated Mackay's change of heart remains unclear but it is suspected the details may have persuaded Palace to rule out the Scot.



      http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/malky-mackay-texts-former-cardiff-manager-accused-of-sending-racist-sexist-and-homophobic-messages-9682753.html
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      Re: Malkay Mackay, Cardiff, Vincent Tan etc
      Reply #1: Aug 21, 2014 06:21:20 pm
      Disgraceful.
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      Reply #2: Aug 21, 2014 08:26:09 pm
      The LMA have defended him saying it was only a couple of incidents and that it was 'friendly text message banter'.

      Ridiculous from those tw*ts.
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      Reply #3: Aug 21, 2014 09:50:06 pm
      The LMA have defended him saying it was only a couple of incidents and that it was 'friendly text message banter'.

      Ridiculous from those tw*ts.

      How utterly despairing.
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      Reply #4: Aug 21, 2014 10:24:17 pm
      Yet the whole of the footballing world went into meltdown when Suarez said something in his native language which comes across as something else in another language, deemed as racism.

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      Reply #5: Aug 21, 2014 10:24:48 pm
      The LMA have defended him saying it was only a couple of incidents and that it was 'friendly text message banter'.

      Ridiculous from those tw*ts.

      So on one hand we have the kick it out campaign, on the other we have the LMA trying to protect an openly racist, homophobic, sexist, dumb as F**k w**ker. To think I actually felt a bit sorry for this guy when he got the sack.
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      Reply #6: Aug 21, 2014 11:16:01 pm
      So on one hand we have the kick it out campaign, on the other we have the LMA trying to protect an openly racist, homophobic, sexist, dumb as F**k w**ker. To think I actually felt a bit sorry for this guy when he got the sack.

      The more interesting story would be what actually went on behind the scenes when he was in charge at Cardiff, this shows the Tan Hierachy and Malky definitely did not get on!
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      Reply #7: Aug 22, 2014 12:35:02 am
      What a knob. I, too, felt sorry for him but that was the least he deserves.

      Glad to hear Palace fu**ed him off when they heard of this.
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      Reply #8: Aug 22, 2014 11:47:46 am
      Haha don't worry here's Harry Redknapp to launch a defence of Malky!

      Malky Mackay texts: Harry Redknapp defends former Cardiff City manger - 'he hasn't raped anyone and he is not a paedophile'

      QPR manager Harry Redknapp offered a bizarre defence of under-fire former Cardiff manager Malky Mackay, saying: "He hasn't murdered anyone, he hasn't raped anyone and he is not a paedophile."

      Mackay and his former head of recruitment Iain Moody are alleged to have shared racist, sexist and homophobic texts when they worked together at the Welsh club.

      The Scot has apologised for the messages he sent but drew further criticism after a statement issued on his behalf by the League Managers' Association on Thursday night said they were intended as "friendly text banter". The LMA has subsequently apologised for the tone of its first statement.

      News that the Football Association was investigating the exchange prompted Crystal Palace to drop their interest in appointing Mackay as their new manager, but Redkapp does not believe these allegations "should finish his life".

      "What I would say is that Malky Mackay has made a big mistake," Redknapp said.

      "I don't know the other lad (Moody) but what they have done is not right. Malky is a great lad, a family man and a real football man, he has made mistakes and people make mistakes in life.

      "Suddenly everyone is an angel, he made a big mistake the lad but it shouldn't finish his life. He is a good manager and I feel bad for what he has done but I bet no one is feeling as bad as him or his family today.

      "I'm not condoning what he has done but show me someone who has ever made a mistake and I will show you a liar. He hasn't murdered anyone, he hasn't raped anyone and he is not a paedophile."

      With the cloud hanging over Mackay it could be difficult for the former Norwich and West Ham defender to find another managerial position any time soon.

      But Redknapp wants to see him given a reprieve at some point in the future: "It is going to take time," he said.

      "People get second chances in life who have committed bad crimes - he has made a mistake but we aren't going to hang him for it are we?

      "Hopefully he will learn from what he has done but everyone does the tweeting and texting. I don't send text messages, but I do receive them with sick jokes. I don't read them, they make me ill.

      "He is a good person underneath all that and I hope he comes back, I can't feel how he must be suffering for the big mistake he has made."


      http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/redknapp-defends-mackay--he-hasnt-raped-anyone-and-he-is-not-a-paedophile-9685399.html
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      Reply #9: Aug 22, 2014 12:00:08 pm
      Ron Atkinson has not had a sniff at returning to football and rightly so, I'm of the opinion Mackay needs a good look in the mirror & needs to Piss off for a while.



       
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      Reply #10: Aug 22, 2014 12:20:06 pm
      Why on earth is Harry Redknapp wading into this, what a F***ing idiot that man is, he is basically saying he sees nothing wrong in what was said. A "Good Lad" who just happens to be sexist, homophobic and racist, well if that's his definition on a good lad then I think we all know that his views are very very close to Malky's!
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      Reply #11: Aug 22, 2014 12:29:36 pm
      you had better hope that people's thoughts never become readable. I hear far worse than this everyday and I suspect that football in general is still not PC by a long way.
      Can everyone on here honestly stand by everything they say and have ever said?.
      No doubt Malkay is a throw back to the bad old days but lets just look at the bigger picture about using social media and how it can really come back to haunt you. Its a pity its been made so public because it may have been better for someone to sit down with him and the other bloke and explain to them how wrong this sort of language is.
      I don't like the way people are so quick to jump on the critical bandwagon.He who cast the first stone and all that.
      « Last Edit: Aug 22, 2014 12:52:14 pm by waltonl4 »
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      Reply #12: Aug 22, 2014 02:29:31 pm
      What a complete Idiot, probably ruined his career.
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      Reply #13: Aug 22, 2014 03:06:31 pm
      Make of it what you will

      I reckon that if you took all the phones of everybody involved in football, 90% of them would contain emails or text messages displaying homophobia, sexism, racism and everything in between.

      Not that I’m defending the former Cardiff manager Malky Mackay and the club’s former head of recruitment, Iain Moody, after the dawn raid on Moody’s south London home, at which investigators allegedly recovered text messages containing similarly distasteful exchanges between the pair. It’s just a gut feeling that I have, coupled with my experience of people within the game shoving similar filth under my nose for the past dozen years or so.

      If you want the truth, I’m desensitised to a lot of this stuff, which is a worry, but I remain fully aware of what constitutes a racist, homophobic or sexist message, even if often it appears my contemporaries do not.

      But the reported messages are full-on. One reads: “Fkn chinkys. Fk it. There’s enough dogs in Cardiff for us all to go around”, and was supposedly sent after the arrival of South Korean international Kim Bo-Kyung. Among footballers, that would probably get a couple of laughs and a few winces on the coach to a game. Another message, relating to a player’s female agent, reads: “I hope she’s looking after your needs, I bet you’d love a bounce on her falsies.” I can guarantee you that message would have received a generous round of laughter.

      Before I wander down the road to hypocrisy, let me say that I have taken measures to distance myself from this behaviour. Not because I am on some crusade towards the moral high ground, but because I’m terrified of either losing my phone or having it stolen. I have a friend who was put on the front page of the News of the World after losing his phone on a night out. The person who found it didn’t hand it in to the police, he went through it and then sold some pictures to that newspaper.

      I don’t have any incriminating pictures of myself on my phone – at least, not any more – but in the past I have been bombarded with both vulgar pictures and messages from others. In this world of hanging people in the public eye out to dry, whether they’ve done anything wrong or not, I don’t want to run the risk of compromising myself for something as ridiculous as association with known felons. And before you ask, I fully expect that last sentence to bite me on the arse one day. But calling up those people and telling them to leave me out of the round robin texts that I know are being sent to most of their phonebook was easier than I thought. And it made me think that most of the crap they are sending out is sent because they think it’s what others want to see, rather than because of any genuine animosity towards the person it relates to.

      It isn’t just the messages that Mackay and Moody have to contend with. The pair are at the centre of allegations by Cardiff owner Vincent Tan that the club paid way over market value for eight players during their single ill-fated season in the Premier League. It has been claimed that one £600,000 transfer had an additional payment of £600,000 to an agent. I don’t need to tell you that commissions of 100% are something of a rarity in football.

      But it appears that Tan may have known about these messages and used them to solicit an apology from Mackay after the Scot dropped a claim against the club for unfair dismissal. Time and again, Tan attempted to oust the pair who, as he saw it, were costing him millions of pounds unnecessarily. In October 2013, Tan replaced Moody with a 23-year-old Kazakh called Alisher Apsalyamov and in December, possibly after uncovering the evidence he needed, Tan emailed Mackay telling him to either resign or be sacked. A week later, Mackay left the club.

      What this unsavoury incident may yet show is that Tan may have had a number of grounds upon which he based his controversial handling of Mackay’s exit from the club. Perhaps he could be forgiven for standing in his executive box at the next home game with the faint appearance of a man wearing a slightly smug “I told you so” grin on his face. He might even be due a few apologies, particularly from those fans who demonstrated outside the Cardiff City stadium last season at Tan’s perceived handling of the club. But football doesn’t work like that.

      Whatever happens now, Mackay will struggle to get back into football any time soon; the claims against him and Moody have already cost him a shot at the Crystal Palace job, for which Mackay was the favourite.

      But one day Mackay will get back in. The pages of today’s story will have long ago been used as chip paper and somebody, somewhere will afford him the opportunity to start again. Like so often in football, progress happens one funeral at a time.
      http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/22/sexism-racism-football-dirty-secret-malky-mackay-iain-moody-cardiff-city
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      Reply #14: Aug 22, 2014 03:09:11 pm
      Horrible c**t that should never have a job in football again.
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      Reply #15: Aug 22, 2014 07:10:22 pm
      Horrible c**t that should never have a job in football again.

      how can you judge a man who has lived on this planet for over 40 years by one episode. He made 3 just 3 text's that are unacceptable and has apologised for them. You must live by very very high standards.. People who have never made mistakes have never made anything.
      I speak to a generation of people who fought in the second world war they gave 6 years of their lives to protect this country and their language is not PC by any means does this make them any less of a person because as far as I am concerned they are all heroes.
      This is down to education and nothing more.
      Be careful for what you wish for because it may come true and if people are judged by everything they say we will soon have to build a lot more jails.
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      Reply #16: Aug 22, 2014 07:43:45 pm
      Malky Mackay says he's not a racist, sexist, homophobe or antisemite. He's just Scottish!!


      I'll get me F***ing coat ;)
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      Reply #17: Aug 22, 2014 08:07:02 pm
      Malky Mackay says he's not a racist, sexist, homophobe or antisemite. He's just Scottish!!


      I'll get me f**king coat ;)

      if you put a microphone into most of the working men's pubs in Liverpool you would need to have a fleet of buses ready to arrest the customers because the conversations would be very hard for the PC brigade to live with.
      lets get things into perspective people say they will kill each other but the seldom do. Lets educate people not demonise them
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      Reply #18: Aug 22, 2014 08:36:38 pm

      Yeah right, and I'm Peter Pan. A 42 years old who behaves like that has hardly done this type of thing only 3 times.

      I never said to lock him in jail btw, I just said I hope he never gets a job in football again.
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      Reply #19: Aug 22, 2014 09:01:47 pm
      if you put a microphone into most of the working men's pubs in Liverpool you would need to have a fleet of buses ready to arrest the customers because the conversations would be very hard for the PC brigade to live with.
      lets get things into perspective people say they will kill each other but the seldom do. Lets educate people not demonise them

      Yes Walton it takes place everyday of the week but that does not excuse Mackay & Moody for their behaviour especially the positions they held as high profile figures.


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      Reply #20: Aug 22, 2014 09:03:39 pm
      Yes Walton it takes place everyday of the week but that does not excuse Mackay & Moody for their behaviour especially the positions they held as high profile figures.

      Exactly. One mistake doesn't justify another. And I surely expect more from a public, high profile figure than poor men's uneducated opinions
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      Reply #21: Aug 23, 2014 01:43:42 pm
      Malky Mackay says he's not a racist, sexist, homophobe or antisemite. How can he be? He hates everybody and treats them all with the same disdain.


      I'll get me f**king coat too ;)

      Whatever the outcome, he's now damaged goods and it'll be a long time or a brave chairman before he's back in top flight.

      I couldn't understand why there was so much animosity toward him by Tan last year. It all makes sense now though eh?

      I wonder what's prompted all of this to come out now? Surely there must have been some behind closed-door dealings going on last season to end his tenure? Mackay dropping the threat of legal action v's Cardiff disclosing these texts for example!

      I'd imagine Palace being found guilty earlier by the FA for for their part in teamgate and Mackay subsequently being made favourite for the Palace job was too much for Cardiff to take and they've responded in kind by letting both barrels go.   
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      Reply #22: Aug 23, 2014 04:15:44 pm
      Don't know why anyone would defend him. The LMA are a laughing stock too, or though they are right to call it banter which in it's modern guise is a word often used to excuse this kind of abusive trash.

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