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      Deal of the Summer?

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      bad boy bubby
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      Re: Deal of the Summer?
      Reply #46: Sep 16, 2014 06:34:46 pm
      Its not a case that they aren't good players. They are top drawer players. There is just a lot more to the equation than Chelsea paid less for them than United paid for Di Maria. I would say Di Maria at 65 million was a sh*t deal as is some EPL forward for 20 million. With FFP Barca can but a player for 65 million because they make a lot more than Chelsea. Same with Madrid and same with United. Costa and Fabregas both wanted to go weren't signing and were going where they wanted. The Costa deal hinged on the 15 million extra. The Fabregas deal was probably done with money up front not staggered. The point is there is a lot more than quoting a 30 mill figure as cheap especially in comparison to a handful of deals that are ludicrous but now depend a lot on the FFP ruling.
      I'll let you on my way of thinking. NO ONE bought by Chelsea, Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, or Man City are deals of the season. These clubs by established superstars who in their setup will be successful. Fabregas??? a deal of the season.
      Costa  ??? a deal of the season ?? C'mon

      We just bought Diego Maradona, He was only 85 million and he on us the league. What a piece of business who was the genius who thought of that plan.
      Right we know who you believe aren't good deals, promise we do but... the question still stands - which players do you reckon are good deals?

      You've put so much time, effort and thought into telling us why we're wrong: letting us in on your secret is the least you can do.
      « Last Edit: Sep 16, 2014 06:45:45 pm by bad boy bubby »
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      Re: Deal of the Summer?
      Reply #47: Sep 16, 2014 07:34:14 pm
      Can't believe some on here don't think Costa and Fabregas aren't good deals.

      Chelsea look like league winners in waiting just by signing those two.

      I'm still a bit pissed we didn't sign Remy especially when you see him turn out for them and score on his debut.

      Agree about Costa and Cesc. I thought they might struggle, more so Costa but not the case, kind of makes me wonder why we didn't move to sign him again this summer when it seems we were all in for him last summer.

      Don't think they are nailed on for the league though, they are leaking a lot of goals and against lesser teams. Seem to be taking our approach of last season.

      Not bothered about Remy, he clearly had something wrong with him so I trust the clubs judgement to not take a risk on whatever it was.
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      Re: Deal of the Summer?
      Reply #48: Sep 17, 2014 12:44:02 am
      You've put so much time, effort and thought into telling us why we're wrong: letting us in on your secret is the least you can do.

      I didn't say you're wrong anymore than you can tell me I'm wrong. Who is a good deal? The team matters above all else. Look at Dortmund lose Goetze, Levwandovski, no Reus and yet they stlll look great. The team is everything. So one player coming in seamlessly not looking flash and allowing the team to flourish is a good deal. Cesc Fabregas and Costa are stars bought in to beat teams on their own. I just don't fancy that as a good deal in the sense you guys are saying. Good deal for Chelsea though.
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      Re: Deal of the Summer?
      Reply #49: Sep 17, 2014 08:12:15 am
      Too early to say yet.

      But talking about 'deals of the summer' ... Torres to AC milan on a 2 yr loan deal.... so yes Liverpool lost 17m on the Carroll deal, but we certainly screwed chelsea on the Torres one...
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      Re: Deal of the Summer?
      Reply #50: Sep 17, 2014 11:08:48 am
      Its not a case that they aren't good players. They are top drawer players. There is just a lot more to the equation than Chelsea paid less for them than United paid for Di Maria. I would say Di Maria at 65 million was a sh*t deal as is some EPL forward for 20 million. With FFP Barca can but a player for 65 million because they make a lot more than Chelsea. Same with Madrid and same with United. Costa and Fabregas both wanted to go weren't signing and were going where they wanted. The Costa deal hinged on the 15 million extra. The Fabregas deal was probably done with money up front not staggered. The point is there is a lot more than quoting a 30 mill figure as cheap especially in comparison to a handful of deals that are ludicrous but now depend a lot on the FFP ruling.
      I'll let you on my way of thinking. NO ONE bought by Chelsea, Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, or Man City are deals of the season. These clubs by established superstars who in their setup will be successful. Fabregas??? a deal of the season.
      Costa  ??? a deal of the season ?? C'mon

      We just bought Diego Maradona, He was only 85 million and he on us the league. What a piece of business who was the genius who thought of that plan.

      So, you're not going to answer his question then.
      You'll just be a cantankerous arse.
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      Re: Deal of the Summer?
      Reply #51: Sep 17, 2014 12:51:06 pm
      So, you're not going to answer his question then.
      You'll just be a cantankerous arse.

      Did you just insult me?
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      Re: Deal of the Summer?
      Reply #52: Sep 17, 2014 02:55:08 pm

      Are you going to answer his question?
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      Re: Deal of the Summer?
      Reply #53: Sep 17, 2014 03:12:19 pm
      Selling Lukaku for 28m and paying 4 million more for Costa (so far) looks brilliant business.
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      Re: Deal of the Summer?
      Reply #54: Sep 18, 2014 12:17:14 am
      Are you going to answer his question?

      Best and worst deal of the summer is Angel Di Maria, dependent on if you're his agent, him, hate Man Utd or a supporter.

      And there is no need for insults, just explain yourself it works better.
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      Re: Deal of the Summer?
      Reply #55: Sep 19, 2014 08:07:16 pm
      Best:
      Xabi Alonso to Bayern Munich
      Serge Aurier to PSG (on loan)
      Diouf to Stoke (free)
      Fabergas to Chelsea
      Costa to Chelsea
      Debuchy to Arsenal
      Ramirez to Hull (on loan)
      Fernandez to Swansea
      Ulloa to Leicester
      Dier to Spurs
      Immobile to Dortmund (free)
      Cabella to Newcastle
      Manga to Cardiff City
      Guerra to Cardiff City

      Worst:
      Javi Garcia to Zenit (£12.5 mil ffs!)
      Rojo to Man Utd (Nani's wages ;D)
      Shaw to Man Utd (overpriced fat baffoon)
      Welbeck to Arsenal
      Boyd to Burnley (could have spent £3 mil better on Championship players)
      McCormack to Fulham

      Liverpool players (out of 5 stars)

      Can - 3.5
      Markovic - 4.5 (very likely to go to 5 soon)
      Origi - 4 (at the moment, will surely rise aswell)
      Lovren - 4
      Balotelli - 3.5
      Lambert - 2.5
      Lallana - 4 (price otherwise it would be 4.5, overpaid by 10 mil IMO)
      Moreno - 5
      Manquillo - 3.5

      (Have I forgotten anyone?)

      For Valdes, when he joins, hopefully! ;D, a 4.5.

      Special mention to Chelsea for being able to get rid of Torres, great work. :laugh:

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      Re: Deal of the Summer?
      Reply #56: Sep 19, 2014 08:47:05 pm
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      Re: Deal of the Summer?
      Reply #57: Sep 20, 2014 04:40:25 am
      Best:
      Xabi Alonso to Bayern Munich
      Serge Aurier to PSG (on loan)
      Diouf to Stoke (free)
      Fabergas to Chelsea
      Costa to Chelsea
      Debuchy to Arsenal
      Ramirez to Hull (on loan)
      Fernandez to Swansea
      Ulloa to Leicester
      Dier to Spurs
      Immobile to Dortmund (free)
      Cabella to Newcastle
      Manga to Cardiff City
      Guerra to Cardiff City

      Worst:
      Javi Garcia to Zenit (£12.5 mil ffs!)
      Rojo to Man Utd (Nani's wages ;D)
      Shaw to Man Utd (overpriced fat baffoon)
      Welbeck to Arsenal
      Boyd to Burnley (could have spent £3 mil better on Championship players)
      McCormack to Fulham

      Liverpool players (out of 5 stars)

      Can - 3.5
      Markovic - 4.5 (very likely to go to 5 soon)
      Origi - 4 (at the moment, will surely rise aswell)
      Lovren - 4
      Balotelli - 3.5
      Lambert - 2.5
      Lallana - 4 (price otherwise it would be 4.5, overpaid by 10 mil IMO)
      Moreno - 5
      Manquillo - 3.5

      (Have I forgotten anyone?)

      For Valdes, when he joins, hopefully! ;D, a 4.5.

      Special mention to Chelsea for being able to get rid of Torres, great work. :laugh:



      Immobile to Dortmund wasn't free. He was around £15m.
      bad boy bubby
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      Re: Deal of the Summer?
      Reply #58: Sep 20, 2014 05:47:30 am
      Yeah, you did and then went on to explain why.

      I would say Di Maria at 65 million was a sh*t deal
      Best and worst deal of the summer is Angel Di Maria


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      « Last Edit: Sep 20, 2014 06:18:06 am by bad boy bubby »
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      Re: Deal of the Summer?
      Reply #59: Sep 20, 2014 06:23:23 am
      Yeah, you did and then went on to explained why.

       :dunce2:


      ''Explained'' is a contradiction there mate especially when the explainer appears to be disputing his own statements.
      Having a word with yourself was never more appropriate.
      « Last Edit: Sep 20, 2014 09:00:24 am by stuey »

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