Pre Match League Cup - Liverpool v Swansea. Tuesday 28th October, ko 8pm

Tomorrow night sees Brendan Rodgers Liverpool take on his old Club Swansea in the League Cup, a trophy last won by Liverpool Football Club in 2012 under the stewardship of Kenny Dalglish.  It is a trophy held in high regard by the Anfield faithful, having won it more times than any other English side.

In the last round we saw the senior debut of two Academy graduates in Jordan Rossiter, 17 and Jordan Williams, 18 against a strong Middlesbrough side who took Liverpool to a thrilling penalty shootout, with the home side running out eventual winners 14-13.

For those home in time from work there is live pre match buildup from Anfield available free on LFCTV GO

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/173279-5pm-gmt-swansea-preview-at-anfield

its always good to get another game in quickly after a poor performance. Does Brendan stay with a strong team and hope it gives a decent performance or go with a side of players that need a game.
I wish I knew the answer.

If Brendan's has a moment of clarity and figures out that starting with 2 strikers will make us more potent then we have a chance. If he sticks with Balotelli up front on his own then I think we'll struggle.

This doesn't seem to be on TV? Checked Sky, ITV, BT sports etc to no avail.

This doesn't seem to be on TV? Checked Sky, ITV, BT sports etc to no avail.

Nope, although tickets are still on sale...

Certainly should be putting out as strong a team as possible, only ones I would consider dropping are Gerrard and Balotelli, for fitness and performance issues.
I'd go...
                            Jones
          Johnson  Skrtel   Lovren  Moreno
                            Can
                Henderson   Coutinho
                         Lallana
                  Borini     Lambert

Mignolet; Toure, Enrique; Allen, Sterling, Markovic; Balotelli

Although I can perhapse see Enrique, Mignolet and Sterling getting the nod.
Perhaps a couple of youngsters such as Rossiter and Stewart who were left out of the under 21's game at the weekend.

A good performance would be very nice although just a win in any cup game is preferable, hopefully without extra time and 30 penalties this time...

I'm going for 2-1 Lambert + Coutinho

Gerrard will be rested. apart from that, Im not sure.

I wanna see Markovic, Lambert and Can start as these are exactly the games we brought the extra players in for.

Would start with the same back-5 that kept a clean sheet

Mignolet
Manquillo-Skrtel-Lovren-Moreno
Lucas
Hendo-Coutinho
Borini-Lambert-Markovic

Subs - Jones, Sterling, Lallana, Mario, Can, Johnson, Toure

                      Mignolet
Johson       Skrtel     Toure      Enrique
                        Lucas
            Can                Henderson
Markovic                                   Borini
                  Lambert

Don't care how we get it but we need a win to boost morale in the squad.

Newcastle away will be harder after the confidence they got from winning at Spurs. The fact we're toothless without Sturridge makes every game a struggle for us right now. Then we have Madrid and Chelsea and Palace away. If we don't start getting results the pressure will increase on the manager and players and it's going to spiral into a disaster like 2009/10.

I'd like to see Rossiter play in this game again, especially after impressing in the previous round. I don't expect to see Borini in the starting line up, he has come out saying how he and Brendan aren't talking and he's furious about not being part of match day squads in recent weeks.

Definitely don't want to see Gerrard and Raheem for this one there is bigger fish to fry.
If Brendan is going to insist with Balotelli then this is the game to start lambert with him and see how they get on.
 

I'd like to see Rossiter play in this game again, especially after impressing in the previous round. I don't expect to see Borini in the starting line up, he has come out saying how he and Brendan aren't talking and he's furious about not being part of match day squads in recent weeks.

To be honest if I was Borini I'd be plenty pissed off at Brendan as well, how the feck does Balotelli get a game above any of our other strikers is a mystery to me?

Time for Sterling and Gerrard to rest indeed. Coutinho and Lallana should start this one. The back four that played Hull could do with another run here - if they get another clean sheet would do good to their morale and the team as a whole too.

To be honest if I was Borini I'd be plenty pissed off at Brendan as well, how the feck does Balotelli get a game above any of our other strikers is a mystery to me?

Think it's no mystery, mate. Brendan wants to prove a point with Balotelli and will start him in as many games as he can, even a Cup game, hoping that Mario finally gets his goal in an attempt to show that the gamble will pay off.

Well, seeing as Swansea are a good footballing team, with some tricky players and are probably hoping for a good cup run, also factor in we're not exactly flying atm and I reckon we'll manage a close, hard fought win. Going for a 2-1 win!

Play our strongest team and beat Swansea, do  not worry about the next game put all the effort into beating Swansea.

why isnt the game on tele? two preimer league teams meetimg in a cup tie and its not in. who make these desicions?

I think we need to give the squad players a run out.... hopefully one or two of them will show enough to push their case for a chance in the league games.

                                      Jones
Manquillo              Toure              Lovren           Enrique

                               Can    Lucas
Markovic                                                       Lallana

                           Lambert     Borini

Having looked at that team I picked, I think we will probably get beaten, so maybe we need Sterling, Henderson or Coutinho to come on at half time. If by some fluke we are winning bring on Rossiter and Williams.


                                     

Just make life simple.

Lets get a result.

I think we need to give the squad players a run out.... hopefully one or two of them will show enough to push their case for a chance in the league games.

                                      Jones
Manquillo              Toure              Lovren           Enrique

                               Can    Lucas
Markovic                                                       Lallana

                           Lambert     Borini

Having looked at that team I picked, I think we will probably get beaten, so maybe we need Sterling, Henderson or Coutinho to come on at half time. If by some fluke we are winning bring on Rossiter and Williams.


                                   

This.

We have supposedly bolstered our squad so an entirely different Xi should be good enough.

I'm F***ing dreading this! 

Definitely don't want to see Gerrard and Raheem for this one there is bigger fish to fry.
If Brendan is going to insist with Balotelli then this is the game to start lambert with him and see how they get on.

Not sure I follow this to be honest, this is a trophy we can win this season. To win a trophy you need to be consistent, we are not that for sure but still think if we get a result tomorrow night we have every chance of winning this and shut up all the so called pundits and others! I would like to see us play our strongest side and not worry about other games now. We need to gel together, which we are not so far. Let's hope for a strong line up and a win. I'am sure we would like a trip to Wembley.

give sinclair, wilson, lloyd jones and rossiter a chance ...

Would give a lot of the new signings another chance on Tues:

                           Jones
          Johnson  Toure   Skyrtel  Enrique
                     Can Lucas Allen
              Markovic Lambert Lallana
             
Some of the new guys that cost a fair few bob, can't be hiding - need to make them earn their crust.
And some of the guys on the edge of the team deserve a chance to play their way in.
Wouldn't even have Borini even on the bench, turd needs to get the message.
Can't be depending on Sterling and Coutinho to create all the time - but would have them on the bench for impact later.
The usual league cup balancing act for BR - he wants to win - but needs to play some second stringers - hope they can do a job - but have the more dependable lads ready to come on to get us over the line if needed.

why isnt the game on tele? two preimer league teams meetimg in a cup tie and its not in. who make these desicions?

Can't complain we're never off the telly

if brendan will use the first team players that will be a strong message that he has alot of pressure on him and won't risk a cup exit so soon in the season, but i think we will see the players who didnt had many chances with the first team, i'm curious if borini will get any minutes

Jones
Johnson - Toure - Lovren - Enrique
Lucas - Can
Markovic - Henderson - Coutinho
Lambert 

Henderson leading the team out 

edit - Sakho injured?

Gerrard and Sterlng to be rested surely.

Another home defeat probably.

Gerrard and Sterlng to be rested surely.

Another home defeat probably.

Just loving the optimism there

Don't care how we get it but we need a win to boost morale in the squad.

Newcastle away will be harder after the confidence they got from winning at Spurs. The fact we're toothless without Sturridge makes every game a struggle for us right now. Then we have Madrid and Chelsea and Palace away. If we don't start getting results the pressure will increase on the manager and players and it's going to spiral into a disaster like 2009/10.

It really will. A win, which was deserved, at Hull would of papered over the cracks. Pressure is building. Think we need a convincing win, more so against Newcastle than Swansea.

Team need to up their game.

Wouldn't even have Borini even on the bench, turd needs to get the message.

Quite right mate.... don't know what I was thinking putting him in my team.

As Oliver Cromwell once said .... "You have sat here too long for any good you are doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"

Quite right mate.... don't know what I was thinking putting him in my team.

As Oliver Cromwell once said .... "You have sat here too long for any good you are doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"

Never heard that one, had to look it up

Might be harsh on Fabio, but needs must.

Never heard that one, had to look it up

Might be harsh on Fabio, but needs must.

Yeah, I am not sure Cromwell was talking about Borini .... but I am sure he was thinking about Borini when he said it

HOw about " never a Liverpool player not as long as he has got a hole in his arse".

It really will. A win, which was deserved, at Hull would of papered over the cracks. Pressure is building. Think we need a convincing win, more so against Newcastle than Swansea.

Team need to up their game.

We need convincing wins against both Swansea and Newcastle as far as I am concerned. No excuses just get out there and get the job done.

Wonder if Lambert will be captain again...

I'd go for a mix of back up and first teamers here, but the result is the most important thing.

Jones

Manquillo
Toure
Lovren
Moreno

Lucas
Rossiter
Henderson
Coutinho

Balotelli
Lambert

Subs: Mignolet, Skrtel, Enrique, Can, Allen, Lallana, Sterling

Disgraceful down here...Setanta are showing the Shrewsbury v chavs game instead of Ours...cu*ts

Difficult game ahead Swansea usually always give us a hard game, I am more optimistic about beating Newcastle away tbh, but who knows, may even go to a penalty shoot out, now that would be interesting.

Sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I read that the game won't be broadcasted?

So no streams for today's match?

Sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I read that the game won't be broadcasted?

So no streams for today's match?

Yeah as AussieRed posted it's the mighty Shrewsbury v the Plastics..........

                          Mignolet

Manquillo     Skrtel      Lovren       Moreno

                                 Can

                  Rossiter          Henderson

                              Coutinho

                     Balotelli        Lambert

Hoping for a sexy attacking performance tonight. Free flowing positive football is all I ask.

Please

It's showing live on TV here in Malaysia so I'm sure there will be live streams out there.

The game is listed on the beIN sports 1 channel (tv guide) so there is hope for a stream later.

^
Here is a link to the channel.
http://world-livestreaming.eu/bein-sport-1-hd/

3rd game in 6 days....no wonder I'm broke !!

Off again to the match this afternoon, no goals in the last two games, can you change that tonight please Redmen, a win, any win will do me just nicely, no extra time and penalties tonight please lads, it makes it sooooo late before i get home 

Reckon on seeing a mixture of first teamers and fringe players tonight, but Brendan will know all about the strenghts of his previous club and he will not take them lightly, we'll need to be on song to beat these.

Come on you mighty REDS !!

Hoping for a sexy attacking performance tonight. Free flowing positive football is all I ask.

Please

If we had Stu up front maybe. Mario and Rickie won't be bringing sexy back that's for sure.

We must go for this cup. Best possible 11 please Brendan. Merci.

Don't think we'll be seeing Cou tonight, I've heard he's carrying an injury which is why he didn't start on Saturday.  We'll definitely be seeing a mixture of starters and squaddies with maybe a couple of youngsters but this is a much more difficult game than Middlesbrough.  They're no push overs, even at Anfield.

We must go for this cup. Best possible 11 please Brendan. Merci.

I don't think Brendan knows what his best possible 11 is. If he starts Mario as a lone striker again he definitely doesn't know his best 11 or best formation.

3rd game in 6 days....no wonder I'm broke !!

Off again to the match this afternoon, no goals in the last two games, can you change that tonight please Redmen, a win, any win will do me just nicely, no extra time and penalties tonight please lads, it makes it sooooo late before i get home 

Reckon on seeing a mixture of first teamers and fringe players tonight, but Brendan will know all about the strenghts of his previous club and he will not take them lightly, we'll need to be on song to beat these.

Come on you mighty REDS !!

Wow Cas lucky you!

Enjoy

why would we play our strongest team? sorry but i really don't care that much about the league cup because it isn't a priority for us. i care about the league first and foremost and then the champs league, then the fa cup...this is just a good training cup (this is my own opinion by the way before anyone lectures me about the importance of winning trophies).

play some of the lads who aren't getting regular games to get them up to speed, like can, markovic, coutinho, lambert and borinin up front and so on. don't get me wrong, a win is great for the morale, but i wouldn't lose any sleep over not being in this.

Wow Cas lucky you!

Enjoy

I deffo need to get a place up there..save me all this travelling 

Hope you and your beautiful lady are both good and well xxxx

Not too many changes for me, a defeat won't help our confidence levels at all.

Mignolet; Manquillo, Skrtel, Toure, Moreno; Can, Henderson; Lallana, Coutinho, Balotelli; Lambert.

Basically the same formation as the last 30 minutes of the Hull game with Balo cutting in from that left.

Couldn't believe that stat I saw on the BBC - not beaten a Premier League side in the League Cup since 2006?

Can see the Swans beating us tonight - although all depends on what strength of side they put out.  Might be in our best interest to have our focus on the Newcastle game.

Couldn't believe that stat I saw on the BBC - not beaten a Premier League side in the League Cup since 2006?

Really? Didn't we beat Stoke, Chelsea and Man City (first leg) en route to winning the competition in 2011?

Couldn't believe that stat I saw on the BBC - not beaten a Premier League side in the League Cup since 2006?

Mainly because it is not true?

Stoke
Chelsea
Citeh

in 2011/12

West Brom 2012/13

Really? Didn't we beat Stoke, Chelsea and Man City (first leg) en route to winning the competition in 2011?

Mainly because it is not true?

Ha yeah - I went the Man City game as well.

Maybe the stat was we hadn't beaten a Premier League side at Anfield? Deffo remember reading 2006.

Ha yeah - I went the Man City game as well.

Maybe the stat was we hadn't beaten a Premier League side at Anfield? Deffo remember reading 2006.

Yep, that's what they said on there.
Just checked it because I thought even the BBC couldn't get it that badly wrong 

Ha yeah - I went the Man City game as well.

Maybe the stat was we hadn't beaten a Premier League side at Anfield? Deffo remember reading 2006.

Yeah that could be right .....   bloody awful stat if it is.

Jones

Johnson Skrtel Toure Enrique

Lucas

Rossiter Coutinho

Markovic

Lambert Balotelli

That would be my starting 11. Usually I wouldn't choose Lucas but he's one of the senior members of the squad that hasn't been getting regular minutes in the league so I expect to see him start tonight. It also provides a good opportunity to see if Lambert and Balotelli can form any kind of partnership from the start of a game. Markovic could also do with game time to get himself used to English football.

It ends tonight. I believe!

YNWA

It ends tonight. I believe!

YNWA

It does mate, no replays in this competition, or is that not what you meant 

Yep, that's what they said on there.
Just checked it because I thought even the BBC couldn't get it that badly wrong 

Haha that sounds about right, actually.

Jones

Johnson Skrtel Toure Enrique

Lucas

Rossiter Coutinho

Markovic

Lambert Balotelli

That would be my starting 11. Usually I wouldn't choose Lucas but he's one of the senior members of the squad that hasn't been getting regular minutes in the league so I expect to see him start tonight. It also provides a good opportunity to see if Lambert and Balotelli can form any kind of partnership from the start of a game. Markovic could also do with game time to get himself used to English football.

Would start Migs and Moreno. Fitness wont be an issue and both could do with more game time. Otherwise I agree with the team.

I'm guessing we will play:

Mignolet

Johnson
Skrtel
Toure
Smith

Henderson (c)
Rossiter
Can

Markovic
Lambert
Coutinho

Subs: B Jones; L Jones, Moreno; Allen, Lucas, Williams; Borini.

I'm guessing Smith will play if Enrique is still injured.

Think this will be a good game and can see us winning 3-0 

I'm hoping Balotelli does not start, will be very interesting to see if the team lays better without him. I'd like to see us trying Lambert and Borini, surely Borini must be chomping at the bit to prove himself.

I don't think Brendan knows what his best possible 11 is. If he starts Mario as a lone striker again he definitely doesn't know his best 11 or best formation.

Exactly what I was saying this morning. 3 months into the season and he still doesn't know his first 11. Worrying

can see balo getting a run out tonight.  this is a good lower pressure match to get his game going for us. 

As much as a lot of you trash him... and for some parts rightly so... if you look at the later games vs earlier games, he is hustling his arse a lot more and trying to do more things to help the team on the pitch.  In a nutshell, he is putting more effort to improving.  It is not his fault BR bought a square peg for a round hole... balo needs time to change his playstyle.

I'm nervous, not feeling confident at all, but saying that, I'll go for 2-1, Henderson and Lambert 

This doesn't seem to be on TV? Checked Sky, ITV, BT sports etc to no avail.

Sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I read that the game won't be broadcasted?

So no streams for today's match?

 For those who have satelite the game is scheduled to be shown  on >>
bein sp.France
beiN sp Mena
aport1 Israel
Sp.Tv5 portugal
tv10 sweden,,,and some a couple of cable tv

  AND these are streams showing the game
 
 

Liverpool v Swansea City League Cup
 KICK OFF//20.00GMT//21.00CET//16.00EDT//06.00AEST
 STV-STREAMS - Browser EN------------------------------------  http://stvstreams.com/flash-vlc/flash-4
 CRICFREE - Browser................. ........................ .....................http://cricfree.sx/live/watch/liverpool_vs_swansea_city_/61566
 SOCCERJUMBO - Browser................. ........................ ..............http://www.soccerjumbotv.me/ch-4.html
 STADIUM LIVE - Browser................. ........................ ...............http://www.stadium-live.biz/Channel3.html
 STREAMKING - Browser........ 
 VIP BOX - Browser -  ...http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/     (this station  is already online


Now to the game itself
 just hope BR rests a few , But still choose a strong side , its important we have a good game  for confidence
YNWA

Markovic needs to get the finger out tonite !
I don't care what age he is if you're 20 million you must have something

3-0 to the Reds

It does mate, no replays in this competition, or is that not what you meant 

Haha! Good info nevertheless! Of course what I meant was we will end the no win spell against PL teams at Anfield tonight

For those who have satelite the game is scheduled to be shown  on >>
bein sp.France
beiN sp Mena
aport1 Israel
Sp.Tv5 portugal
tv10 sweden,,,and some a couple of cable tv

  AND these are streams showing the game
 
 

Liverpool v Swansea City League Cup
 KICK OFF//20.00GMT//21.00CET//16.00EDT//06.00AEST
 STV-STREAMS - Browser EN------------------------------------  http://stvstreams.com/flash-vlc/flash-4
 CRICFREE - Browser................. ........................ .....................http://cricfree.sx/live/watch/liverpool_vs_swansea_city_/61566
 SOCCERJUMBO - Browser................. ........................ ..............http://www.soccerjumbotv.me/ch-4.html
 STADIUM LIVE - Browser................. ........................ ...............http://www.stadium-live.biz/Channel3.html
 STREAMKING - Browser........ 
 VIP BOX - Browser -  ...http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/     (this station  is already online


Now to the game itself
 just hope BR rests a few , But still choose a strong side , its important we have a good game  for confidence
YNWA

Thanks for the links mate.

Definitely wouldn't throw a full youth team out there as Swansea are a very good team and they'll want a cup run again. Sigurddson being out for them is very good news for us. I'd definitely bring Jones in as i feel he deserves a chance, if not now, when? Keep same back 4 with Lucas holding role and Allen-Hendo and Coutinho behind Lambert and Borini. Should win this, shame its not on TV

Haha! Good info nevertheless! Of course what I meant was we will end the no win spell against PL teams at Anfield tonight

Ah right, that makes sense now mate.

At this point I don't care who plays. I just want us to play well, create good scoring opportunities, and win the game. We have been so disjointed that we have looked sterile in attack lately. This needs to change asap!!

Markovic needs to get the finger out tonite !
I don't care what age he is if you're 20 million you must have something

What a stupid comment.

1. He is still very young
2. This is his first season in the English leage and obviously needs time to adjust
3. He has barely played so far
4. The price tag has nothing to do with him, that was just what we were willing to pay. Fair enough if you question why we paid £20m for him but you can't make it personal against him.
5. He does have something, just give him time to show it (Henderson and Suarez for example...)

What a stupid comment.

1. He is still very young
2. This is his first season in the English leage and obviously needs time to adjust
3. He has barely played so far
4. The price tag has nothing to do with him, that was just what we were willing to pay. Fair enough if you question why we paid £20m for him but you can't make it personal against him.
5. He does have something, just give him time to show it (Henderson and Suarez for example...)

Mate come on. You've seen him, he ain't cutting the mustard at all right now. He looks like a terrible purchase so far.

Mate come on. You've seen him, he ain't cutting the mustard at all right now. He looks like a terrible purchase so far.

Is this a post about Jordan Henderson from a couple years back?

Mate come on. You've seen him, he ain't cutting the mustard at all right now. He looks like a terrible purchase so far.

I agree but if he was £5mil we would give the lad more of a chance.Its not his fault we have idiots in the role of transfer fees

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