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      Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.

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      srslfc
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #23: Nov 18, 2014 11:42:23 pm
      I want Lallana and Coutinho to play.

      Likewise.

      Sturridge out for this so I'd like the boss to have a rethink and change things up a bit and use a side similar to the one in Madrid.

      Mignolet

      Manquillo  Skrtel  Lovren  Moreno

      Lucas

      Can  Coutinho

      Sterling  Borini  Lallana

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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #24: Nov 18, 2014 11:53:09 pm
      Really disappointed that Danny is still struggling. This is a game we should win comfortably even without Danny, may even do us a bit of a favour to get a good win under our belt before Sturridge comes back.

                                      Mignolet

      Manquillo          Skrtel        Lovren       Moreno

                             Can   Lucas

      Sterling                                      Coutinho           

                               Gerrard
                                 Balotelli

      I think Gerrard  could be the spark that gets Balotelli scoring. Bring Lallana on once Gerrard tires.

      2-0 Balotelli with both and a clean sheet..... I must be dreaming :) 
      i like your team selection. We need to change it around. Especially with Danny out for a longer period

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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #25: Nov 19, 2014 12:11:05 am
                         Mignolet
      Manquillo - Skrtel - Toure - Moreno
                             Can
                Henderson   Sterling
                         Coutinho
                  Gerrard      Borini

      Try something new, play Gerrard up top with Borini and see how that works out, can't be as bad as having Balotelli up front?

      But It'll probably be:

                         Migs
      Johnson, Skrtel, Lovren, Moreno
                       Gerrard
             Henderson    Allen
      Sterling     Balotelli    Coutinho
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #26: Nov 19, 2014 03:19:10 am
      If Brendans puts balo up top on his own again at the weekend I really will go spare. You cannot as a premiere league manager keep repeating the same mistakes week in week out and expect to see some miraculous change in our form. Lucas and Can got to start, no Gerrard,
      Borini and balo, or borini and sterling or lallana up top .

      If you continue to make the same mistakes you are making . . .

      You will continue to get the same results as you are getting.
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #27: Nov 19, 2014 06:34:57 am
      man I've missed watching us.

      haven't thought about our little conundrum in a week or so. three in the middle means playing Balotelli up top alone. playing Balotelli and Borini gives us more strikepower but a weak midfield of probably Hendo/Stevie. I hope BR has come further in this then I have!!!
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #28: Nov 19, 2014 06:42:48 am
      What i want to see

                    Mignolet
      Manq Skrtel    Toure   Moreno
                     Lucas
                Can      Lallana
                     Coutinho
                      Borini       Sterling.

      Something similar to the dortmund game where we played diamond with Sterling wide left forward and Coutinho behind Sturridge. We continued it in Saints game. But with SG and Lucas Coutinho got isolated in the middle. I would like to see this given another go.


      However i know what we will see.
                      Mig
        GJ    Skrtel    Lovren  Moreno
                     SG
              Hendo   Allen
      Sterling              Coutinho
                   Balotelli
       
                 
                     
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #29: Nov 19, 2014 08:05:03 am
      Wouldn't mind seeing Markovic, Sterling and Coutinho in a front three, with Gerrard, Can &  Hendo/Allen.

      Toure @ CB doing what a defender should do as the basics - Defend and clear the ball.
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #30: Nov 19, 2014 10:17:36 am
      The change I'd like to see us make particularly in light of Sturridge being unavailable again, is a bit more radical that when Gerrard plays and it's to be much more direct. I'm not talking about lumping it at every opportunity, but I am talking about not being afraid to hit Balotelli and get around him should teams decide to go for a high press. You can pretty sure if you try and swarm Chelsea that they'll hit Costa and get Hazard/Oscar in around him, we should take off the shackles as far as hitting Balotelli with Coutinho/Sterling getting close is concerned.

      I'm absolutely convinced that our dogmatic determination to play it out regardless of the pressure is making us a poorer team both going forwards and backwards. It's draining our confidence as a defensive unit and adding to the "gander" of the opposition as they force us into hurried errors. Not only that, but they know they can press with absolute impunity because we NEVER mix it up and go long right now, not in the sense that we get anybody around the player we are looking to hit anyway.

      Lets play the game in the opposition half for a bit, clear our lines and play to the strengths of the one striker we do have.   
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #31: Nov 19, 2014 10:27:25 am

      Inevitably gonna be another useless 4-2-3-1 with Gerrard in the 2, Balotelli isolated up top, and a poor performance, been that way since Sturridge first got injured.

      Mate you have missed out the fact that mario will get subbed on 85 mins for lambert.

      I so hope you're both wrong... but both scenarios seem inevitable
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #32: Nov 19, 2014 11:20:22 am
      Had a weird idea last night, Stevie playing on top of a midfield diamond with Can at the base Sterling and Coutinho on the sides. Well, it doesn't hurt to try, they can always shuffle around.

      Mignolet
      Manquillo-Skrtel-Toure-Moreno
      Can
      Sterling-Coutinho
      Stevie
      Mario-Borini

      Subs - Jones, Lovren, Johnson, Henderson, Lallana, Markovic, Lambert
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #33: Nov 19, 2014 12:13:28 pm
      I think Toure should come in for Lovren in this match. Not simply as a reward for his performance against Real but Lovren needs to be taken out of the limelight for a few weeks and allowed to get his form back in training. If Sturridge makes the match then this:

      Mignolet
      Manquillo-Skrtel-Toure-Moreno
      Can-Lucas
      Sterling-Stevie-Lallana
      Sturridge

      Replace Gerrard with Coutinho (who is more effective in the middle than out wide hence Lallana starting) and Danny with Mario after 60-70 minutes. If Sturridge isn't fit then the same formation with Balotelli up front.
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #34: Nov 19, 2014 12:30:53 pm
      I think Toure should come in for Lovren in this match. Not simply as a reward for his performance against Real but Lovren needs to be taken out of the limelight for a few weeks and allowed to get his form back in training. If Sturridge makes the match then this:

      Mignolet
      Manquillo-Skrtel-Toure-Moreno
      Can-Lucas
      Sterling-Stevie-Lallana
      Sturridge

      Replace Gerrard with Coutinho (who is more effective in the middle than out wide hence Lallana starting) and Danny with Mario after 60-70 minutes. If Sturridge isn't fit then the same formation with Balotelli up front.

      Sturridge is out probably until Jan
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #35: Nov 19, 2014 12:57:21 pm
      Just reading Mario might not be fit as well... if that's the case, wonder if Rodgers will start Borini alone upfront or a Borini-Lambert duo.
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #36: Nov 19, 2014 01:03:25 pm
      Suarez and Sturridge to Lambert and Borini.

      Ambition.
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #37: Nov 19, 2014 01:28:48 pm
      Our Labrador is a sod.
      He is always setting our cat challenges.
      Some of them quite extreme.

       
      Lambert and Borini have a fast start challenge
      Those two + Balo have gone  998 minutes between them without scoring*. (PL)

      ( *Notwithstanding the whole (PL) season !)

      Can they do it  we ask ourselves ?
      Either of them score in the first two minutes?
      What odds on that ?
      The race is on to 1,000.

      Ive told my dog     
      He has taken inspiration and is plotting his own mog speed challenge as we speak.


      Important Note :

      No animals were harmed during this post.
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #38: Nov 19, 2014 01:51:09 pm
      The change I'd like to see us make particularly in light of Sturridge being unavailable again, is a bit more radical that when Gerrard plays and it's to be much more direct. I'm not talking about lumping it at every opportunity, but I am talking about not being afraid to hit Balotelli and get around him should teams decide to go for a high press. You can pretty sure if you try and swarm Chelsea that they'll hit Costa and get Hazard/Oscar in around him, we should take off the shackles as far as hitting Balotelli with Coutinho/Sterling getting close is concerned.

      I'm absolutely convinced that our dogmatic determination to play it out regardless of the pressure is making us a poorer team both going forwards and backwards. It's draining our confidence as a defensive unit and adding to the "gander" of the opposition as they force us into hurried errors. Not only that, but they know they can press with absolute impunity because we NEVER mix it up and go long right now, not in the sense that we get anybody around the player we are looking to hit anyway.

      Lets play the game in the opposition half for a bit, clear our lines and play to the strengths of the one striker we do have.   

      I am not so sure we will reap much joy out of that mate. For me neither Balotelli or Lambert are much above average in the air and when we have "lumped" it forward it tends to come straight back. Certainly neither is in the same class as Carroll aerially and we got little joy even with him.

      Secondly, I think if you are going to play that way you need players around the striker who will win the second ball and I don't really see our players as winners of many 50/50's in the way that the likes of Wimbledon, Bolton, or even Villa did.

      I think it is an option we could use more, variation of play and all that, but as a tactic I don't think it is the answer.

      I do think the absence of Sturridge and Suarez has made us too slow in getting the ball forward and it is something we need to redress, but I prefer it if we could get back to passing more aggressively and quickly rather than "hit and hope." We need players with the confidence to make forward runs, create options with movement rather than expecting our 2foot 6inch players (Sterling, Allen, Lallana, Coutinho) to battle for 50/50 second balls.     
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #39: Nov 19, 2014 01:51:28 pm
      If we don't win on sunday or at least put in a really gutsy performance what does it say about our players.
      they have to man up and really get about Palace and show why they wear the shirt.
      I will always support the team win or lose as long as they give everything.
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #40: Nov 19, 2014 04:47:03 pm
      Really disappointed that Danny is still struggling. This is a game we should win comfortably even without Danny, may even do us a bit of a favour to get a good win under our belt before Sturridge comes back.

                                      Mignolet

      Manquillo          Skrtel        Lovren       Moreno

                             Can   Lucas

      Sterling                                      Coutinho           

                               Gerrard
                                 Balotelli

      I think Gerrard  could be the spark that gets Balotelli scoring. Bring Lallana on once Gerrard tires.

      2-0 Balotelli with both and a clean sheet..... I must be dreaming :) 

      Perfect team. I would like to see this too. Stevie playing where he can do some damage.

      But, sadly there is no chance of that team in a month of Sundays. :(
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #41: Nov 19, 2014 05:05:58 pm
      Why not just play this team?:


      Mignolet
      Toure
      Skrtel
      Manquillo
      Moreno
      Can
      Lucas
      Allen
      Lallana
      Markovic
      Borini

      After all Brendan thought they'd be good enough to do a job away to the reigning European Champions - why not an absolute sh*t team like Palace?  :confused-smiley-013:
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #42: Nov 19, 2014 05:44:21 pm
      Why not just play this team?:


      Mignolet
      Toure
      Skrtel
      Manquillo
      Moreno
      Can
      Lucas
      Allen
      Lallana
      Markovic
      Borini

      After all Brendan thought they'd be good enough to do a job away to the reigning European Champions - why not an absolute sh*t team like Palace?  :confused-smiley-013:

      I'm happy with that maybe swap Allen for Coutinho?

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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #43: Nov 19, 2014 08:21:04 pm
      Why not just play this team?:


      Mignolet
      Toure
      Skrtel
      Manquillo
      Moreno
      Can
      Lucas
      Allen
      Lallana
      Markovic
      Borini

      After all Brendan thought they'd be good enough to do a job away to the reigning European Champions - why not an absolute sh*t team like Palace?  :confused-smiley-013:

      Woah. 

      F***ing Exocet that BB.
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #44: Nov 19, 2014 09:48:25 pm
      Why not just play this team?:


      Mignolet
      Toure
      Skrtel
      Manquillo
      Moreno
      Can
      Lucas
      Allen
      Lallana
      Markovic
      Borini

      After all Brendan thought they'd be good enough to do a job away to the reigning European Champions - why not an absolute sh*t team like Palace?  :confused-smiley-013:

      I'd be happy with that, seriously.
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      Re: Pre Match - Crystal Palace v Liverpool. Sun 23rd Nov ko 1.30pm.
      Reply #45: Nov 19, 2014 09:56:58 pm
      Why not just play this team?:


      Mignolet
      Toure
      Skrtel
      Manquillo
      Moreno
      Can
      Lucas
      Allen
      Lallana
      Markovic
      Borini

      After all Brendan thought they'd be good enough to do a job away to the reigning European Champions - why not an absolute sh*t team like Palace?  :confused-smiley-013:

      Isn't this the problem in a nutshell what the F**k is our best team because nobody including the manager knows.
      You could draw names out of a hat and still get an average team

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