One point worse off than we were at this stage under Roy Hodgson.

Now this is not a thread to call for Rodgers to be sacked, or for you to air your Rodgers out chants.

Its a thread to discuss what we think the Owners may do in regards to our situation, bearing in mind they released Hodgson (who wasn't their man) for a similar points return.

Are the next two league games Pivotal to Rodgers getting to remain for the season ?

Were Currently 7 points off 4th place, lose to Arsenal in our next league fixture and that could put us 10 points off fourth place.

My personal opinion is the owners will afford more time and patience to their own man, but if results continue as they are and the gap increases for 4th place, it does make me wonder how much and time patience will afford Rodgers.

Its going to be nervy.

unless they back him and buy a recognised forward and a goalkeeper paying top money they may as well sack him now

unless they back him and buy a recognised forward and a goalkeeper paying top money they may as well sack him now

Would you trust br with money? His signings are shocking

Depends on how ambitious the owners are.

If they've identified someone they want to take over and think they can realistically sign him mid season then I think defeat against Arsenal could potentially be it. I don't think that scenario is realistic though and rather than go down the interim route I see FSG giving Brendan more time and possibly move him on in the summer if we don't make the CL one way or another.

unless they back him and buy a recognised forward and a goalkeeper paying top money they may as well sack him now

They backed him in the summer. £120m spent on utter garbage for me. The owners have been accommodating enough for me since they came to the club.

You could argue Hodgson's signings were mediocre and on a shoestring budget may I add (Konchesky, Meireles, Poulson) but pick me out the players bought in during BR's time in charge (3 years) who are better?

Rodgers HAS to go

They backed him in the summer. £120m spent on utter garbage for me. The owners have been accommodating enough for me since they came to the club.

You could argue Hodgson's signings were mediocre and on a shoestring budget may I add (Konchesky, Meireles, Poulson) but pick me out the players bought in during BR's time in charge (3 years) who are better?

no mate they restrict the buying of world class players by adhering to a strict wage structure.
What we need we cannot afford according to FSG

Yikes. That's a horrendous stat, and I'm still firmly in the "don't sack Brendan" camp.

Great test for the owners, off the field LFC are growing financially and fast, but we need to mirror this growth on the field. Big balls required either way.

best tell Kenny to get the track suit out

best tell Kenny to get the track suit out

Not a bad shout if he would he willing to step in as interim manager. He might be our best shot at silver wear this season.

best tell Kenny to get the track suit out

Honestly don't think Kenny should be put in that position ever again, his love for this club would see him take the opportunity every time, even if it killed him.

He deserves better than that if truth be told.

Honestly don't think Kenny should be put in that position ever again, his love for this club would see him take the opportunity every time, even if it killed him.

He deserves better than that if truth be told.

Remind you of Kenny with Sir Bob as mentor? Not sure Stevie has the character to be a manager.
Who knows what FSG will do because they have not got a clue about football

One point worse off than we were at this stage under Roy Hodgson.

And eight points worse than we were, at this stage of Kenny's ill-fated last season mate.

Were Currently 7 points off 4th place, lose to Arsenal in our next league fixture and that could put us 10 points off fourth place...

... it does make me wonder how much and time patience will afford Rodgers.

Its going to be nervy.

I can see exactly how it's going to be nervy Blud - the result you mention could actually put us 13 points off 4th btw; should West Ham beat Leicester. 

The last boss, this lot sacked, was 3 points off  4th place, with 29 points [at this stage] and only 2 points off Arsenal, in 4th, after 19 games, with 34 points.

We bought no-one that January, even tho' our midfield and defence was ravaged by injury and the rest, as they say, is history.

With that fact in mind I can't see the accounts stepping in to save us this January [hope I'm wrong] so, if I were Brendan, my arse would be playing the '5p - 50p game'.   

best tell Kenny to get the track suit out

He's on a cruise ship around Dubai

We all know we're in a storm. However we are divided between those who feel we are sinking and those who feel we can still come out on the other side.

As sad as it sounds it's quite a basic solution. Make it to January, see if there is any potential to bring players who can come in who can MAKE a difference and take it from there. As one said above though, on the evidence provided by the summer transfers can we trust that they will make any difference? No doubt about it - Rodgers can't afford something quite as bad next time round, and I'm sure he'll get that chance. I absolutely still support the man but there's no question that the season has been riddled with error upon error, upon error. It's been a shocking season from Brendan so far and no more has that been shown than in his management of a truly appalling defence where Skrtel, Lovren have been the prime source of utter catastrophe. His persistance in sticking with woeful players like them as well as an inability to introduce Markovic, Suso etc into proceedings has given his detractors easy ammo to fire at him.

Quite simply he has to do better.

unless they back him and buy a recognised forward and a goalkeeper paying top money they may as well sack him now

I would never back him with money anymore. 220m spent on players and what did he spend it on?

I would never back him with money anymore. 220m spent on players and what did he spend it on?

Did he choose those players though?

Did he choose those players though?

Is it really that difficult to choose the right players and the positions needed to improve the team? Even the majority of our fans can scout exceptional players that would not have cost a world class fee as well as improving us.

Surely if you are getting paid thousands on a weekly basis, It would be easier as your job is to scout players? :S It just doesn't make sense. Football isn't rocket science, is it? I believe Rodgers has a final say and he does get to choose what players he wants from a selection of players recommended by the scouting team. Also, I'm sure he does scouting himself (watching games and hearsay) and has his own list.

Did he choose those players though?

Of course he did, naive to think otherwise.

He wanted Allen, so he paid 15m to get Allen. He started creaming himself about an exciting player that Liverpool fans will love and he paid 10m and got Borini. He wanted a leader in defense so he paid 20m on Lovren.

He is the one responsible.

He's on a cruise ship around Dubai

Oh no he's not!
Well it is panto season. 

Last 19 league games of our last 5 managers, from highest to lowest.

33pts
31pts
28pts Brendan Rodgers
24pts
18pts

Did he choose those players though?

this is the question. However he did by his own admission give his approval and he is part of the corporate decision to buy players of this ilk.So he may not have free reign but he is complicit in the decision.

It doesn't matter which manager you have in place; Guardiola, Mourhino, Klopp, Monk. If the owners won't increase wages, the players going to go play elsewhere.

FSG are to blame. Not because they won't bid big for players, but because they big big, and then expect big transfer players to play for less wages than most top teams

Crafty.

In fairness to Woy, he didn't spend £115m the previous summer.

Our worst start to a season in 50 years

Woy had no plan or style of play and is boring as hell.

Last 19 league games of our last 5 managers, from highest to lowest.

33pts
31pts
28pts Brendan Rodgers
24pts
18pts

I'm pretty sure it's only 25 points Rodders and although it makes no difference to this season: I get your drift.   

If this turns out to be to true, the writing could be very much on the wall.

If this turns out to be to true, the writing could be very much on the wall.

he is a manc just trying to stir the sh*t I think Brendan and Stevie are on the same page.

I'm pretty sure it's only 25 points Rodders and although it makes no difference to this season: I get your drift.   

I'd worked it before the United game, forgot to adjust, still middle of the road.

I'd worked it before the United game, forgot to adjust, still middle of the road.

Yeah, well, I'm not sure "middle of the road" will be good enough to keep Brendan here. Let's hope, for all our sakes, his next 19 work out an awful lot better. I reckon only a Champions League place will save him. We will need at least 2 points per game, from here in, to even stand a chance of that. 

best tell Kenny to get the track suit out

IF Brendan get's the push I wouldn't be surprised at all as a new manager would probably only be available in the summer.

he is a manc just trying to stir the sh*t I think Brendan and Stevie are on the same page.

As if.  Gerrard's as good as gone - and to be honest it will probably be a blessing for the next manager not to have to deal with the elephant in the room - because Rodgers has made a pigs ear of Gerrard's final days.

As if.  Gerrard's as good as gone - and to be honest it will probably be a blessing for the next manager not to have to deal with the elephant in the room - because Rodgers has made a pigs ear of Gerrard's final days.

its sad to see him so inept today he really didn't contribute anything.

If this turns out to be to true, the writing could be very much on the wall.

Didn't think SG showed enough passion today, that's just my opinion I know. So not sure he was in a position to be on the attack ... that is if the row happened, and it was about today's match.
Like, today was bad loosing 3-0 to the scum ... but in fairness to BR, he setup a team that, although not perfect, did create more chances and had more opportunities to score than the opposition.

Everyone is cautious about Brendan, afraid of contesting him, like he won 20 titles here.

This is the worst Liverpool side in the last decade, in Hodgson days, at least we defended well. Here we are 0 in defence, 0 in midfield, 0 in attack, you lot really are a masochist bunch if you still back Brendad to be the saviour of this team, he's the gravedigger.

When you look at it like this it is simply not good enough and results will have to improve.

Continuing like this until the end of the season will almost certainly see Brendan get the sack.