Martin Skrtel - 3 match ban!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32019847

Very silly from Martin Skrtel and for me, without doubt, it's a deserved ban. He's deliberately caught DDG and I'd be absolutely fuming if that was Smalling on Mignolet for example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiSLTCCAtAA#ws

He will miss the following games:

v Arsenal (a)
v Newcastle (h)
v Blackburn (a)

Out of frustration, I´d forgive that. Played a lot recently anyway so well deserved break. Switch to back 4 very likely now.

To be fair I think both Jones tackles were a lot worse and should have been looked into.

Also the ref was soo F***ing biased towards the mancs he should also be getting reviewed.

He got so much wrong it was unbelievable.

I think Di Maria should have been carded for the handball, Jones should have gone and Smalling got away with murder.

In a match of this magnitude errors like this are totally unacceptable.

Out of frustration, I´d forgive that. Played a lot recently anyway so well deserved break. Switch to back 4 very likely now.

Why?

Obviously Rodgers will move Toure or Lovren into the back 3.

Harsh but not surprising.

He didn't hit the manc c**t hard enough.

And Rooney can just put a snidy one in on Migs with no repercussions.

And Rooney can just put a snidy one in on Migs with no repercussions.

That's what pisses me off too. The inconsistency, people can say he didn't intend it, you could tell by the ugly fuckers smirk as he walked away that he meant every F***ing bit of it.

Horrible granny F***ing little c**t.

Same with Jones, he was out to hurt people yesterday, there's as much malice and intent in the challenge on Lallana as there was with Skrtel's stamp. The fact Jones made it through the entire game was a disgrace.

With regards Skrtel's ban in isolation I can understand it, when put in the context of what they got away with it's the usual biased sh*t.

F**k, Skrtel misses 3, Gerrard misses 3, Lallana got injured, we F***ing lost and everyone around us won...what a F***ing disastrous weekend that was.

Still can't believe ANY Liverpool fan will say he stamped on De Gea on purpose.

Seriously shocked. Appalled actually.

Anyway, no ban is possible*. This what FA said about Costa on Skrtel.

"Following a review of an incident during the game involving Costa and Liverpool’s Martin Skrtel, The FA will not be taking any further action."

* If equal standard is applied.

And Rooney can just put a snidy one in on Migs with no repercussions.

apart from rumours in Belgium that mignolet may need a scan

i only know that if skrtel and de gea met each other on the streets, martin would have layed that faggot on the floor. F**k the mancs.

So effectively two players sent off in the match and three points lost. Not our finest hour.

And Rooney can just put a snidy one in on Migs with no repercussions.

Yeah he got away with one didn't he. Problem is they clamping right down on stamping and it was clear what Skrtel did there the. Moment you watched the replay. He will be missed, of that there is no doubt. Hopefully Toure will get the nod to replace him.

Kolo kolo kolo toure !!!

Out of frustration, I´d forgive that. Played a lot recently anyway so well deserved break. Switch to back 4 very likely now.

Why? Straight swap with Kolo

Couple reasons Vicks86, Im note sure back 3 would work without a proper sweeper Skrtel as we have seen when was taken off against Blackburn.
Also we look dodgier with this wing-back thing with every passing game, I´d just ditch it for now.

Going to be painful vs Arsenal Im afraid - Moreno out of form, Skrtel suspended, Lovren injured, Flano only back from serious injury, Johnson and Touré not playing for a while, Enrique lost in virtual world. Hopefully Lucas is close, our defense is going to need a bit of protection me thinks.

Of course he stamped on him. We pay him a hundred grand a week to know precisely where to stick his feet and he was hardly apologetic after he had done it.

Not even that bothered about the aggression but it was utterly stupid given that we need him in the team for the run-in.

Again, utter stupidity and playing in a naive manner has cost us. Fully deserved ban in my view.

Why?

Obviously Rodgers will move Toure or Lovren into the back 3.

Johnson?

Still can't believe ANY Liverpool fan will say he stamped on De Gea on purpose.

Seriously shocked. Appalled actually.

Anyway, no ban is possible*. This what FA said about Costa on Skrtel.

"Following a review of an incident during the game involving Costa and Liverpool’s Martin Skrtel, The FA will not be taking any further action."

* If equal standard is applied.

Mate you are very niaive if you think that stamp wasn't intentional. It was borne out of pure frustration on Skrtels part but it was still intentional.

I agree completely that the FA have proven once again there is no consistency in their rulings as there is no difference between the Costa stamp on Martin and when Skrtel did on Sunday.

Johnson?

F**k no!

F**k no!

he was injured when Lovern played... he might be the player he wants there!

just saying?

Players like Skrtel need to stamp their authority, on the game, not the f'king opposition players. Hope this ban does not prove too costly for the Reds.

Two seasons in a row where suspensions could cost us, last season it was Henderson. In the games that he missed we had no pressing game what so ever. Seems we have injuries to Sturridge and Lallana too, this isn't good!

Skrtel and Gerrard should be ashamed of themselves.

You would expect it from a young local lad, Flanagan perhaps or F***ing Balotelli who has a screw loose, but not senior pro's, two of our 'leaders', one being the captain and nearly 35 years of age for fucks sake.

Deserved ban for Martin. Stupid, stupid fool.

I WOULD stick Lovern LCB and put Sakho in the centre keep CAN RCB

Similar to Gerrard's stamp, it doesn't matter how frustrated they were or how emotional they became, nor does it matter that the ref was a complete c**t allowing United to get away with murder...they should not have given the piece of steaming turd that is Atkinson the reason to send them off. Stamping on players is a no brainer for refs, where as everything else can be justified a number of ways if a c**t of a referee chooses to do so.

Skrtl's ban will hurt our run-in more than Gerrard's. Toure will hopefully step up. When he does, I have absolute confidence, when he's having the jitters, I sh*t myself.

I don't think there can be any complaints to be honest.

I WOULD stick Lovern LCB and put Sakho in the centre keep CAN RCB

I'd just stick Lovren in the middle, tell him, if in doubt, boot it out.  Keep the other two where they are.

Deserved.

Wasn't as deliberate as Gerrard's for me - but any player who leaves their foot in is asking for this.  Costa and now Skrtel both done retrospectively so we all know the score now on this.

It's a shame because he's arguably been one of the most consistent players for us this season.  Going to be a big loss and I think it will it affect our results in the next three games more than missing Gerrard.

Big miss.

Bit daft considering all the sh1te we gave costa for stamping.

He did something daft and idiotic.  Deserves the ban.  I just hope he doesn't challenge it otherwise they could make it even longer than 3 games, then we will really be in trouble without him.

Still can't believe ANY Liverpool fan will say he stamped on De Gea on purpose.

Seriously shocked. Appalled actually.

Come off it fella, seriously?

If Mignolet had been done like that by one of their players we'd be screaming for blood on here.

Daft by him, as he's been our best defender for me for a few months. Think we'll struggle without him.

Martin to contest the charge, fair enough as only he knows.

Wasn't as deliberate as Gerrard's for me - but any player who leaves their foot in is asking for this.  Costa and now Skrtel both done retrospectively so we all know the score now on this.

It's a shame because he's arguably been one of the most consistent players for us this season.  Going to be a big loss and I think it will it affect our results in the next three games more than missing Gerrard.

Costa wasn't done for the stamp on Skrtel though which was more or less the same as what Skrtel did to da Gea.

Costa wasn't done for the stamp on Skrtel though which was more or less the same as what Skrtel did to da Gea.

Exactly my interpretation, so the FA are gonna do Skrtel for the same as Costa got off with, work that out? Drastically need an overhaul of the retribution cobblers! Not defending Skrtel in any way but you see a tackle (alleged) from Jones on Hendo potentially season ending and the 'I saw that at the time so you can't touch that' 
And how come stevie got his red before herrera got his yellow surely it's done in the order of foul committed or is that to stupid

Mate you are very niaive if you think that stamp wasn't intentional. It was borne out of pure frustration on Skrtels part but it was still intentional.

Come off it fella, seriously?

 

The incident was very clear.

Liverpool defender Martin Skrtel has denied a Football Association charge of violent conduct for standing on Manchester United goalkeeper David de Gea.

The incident was very clear.

So what if he is appealing players appeal decisions all the time it doesn't mean he didn't commit foul play. He has nothing to lose by appealing it.

Deserves the ban, don't know what he was thinking to be honest.

Going to miss him now which sucks, has been very solid in recent months no doubt about it.

Skrtel needs to show a video of Costa's stamp on him, (where no further action was deemed necessary) and just say,
"I thought you condoned this sort of tackle, as you were happy for Costa to lay one on me, has something occurred, for you to change your mind?"

So what if he is appealing players appeal decisions all the time it doesn't mean he didn't commit foul play. He has nothing to lose by appealing it.

Fairly comfortable with this: "The ECHO understands the basis of the denial centres on Skrtel’s belief the incident was accidental." Unless you know different??

Looks accidental. It is reported that Skrtel says it was accidental.

Yet some here want to claim he intentionally went to "stamp" on the leg. 

He put himself in a situation that was always going to cause a stir. If we were winning then he'd have hurdled him like what is done 99% of the time. I very much doubt he had any intention of hurting De Gea, but fact is, he left his foot in and had it been down the other end on Migs from one of their players then we'd have been calling for the 3 game ban too.

BUT, the system is all wrong. An incident should be able to get reviewed regardless of whether the ref has taken action or not because Jones was reckless and the severity of the fouls he was making could have done a lot more damage than what Skrtel could have done by leaving his leg in, yet the one who could easily have broken a leg escapes with just a yellow. It's all wrong.

Fairly comfortable with this: "The ECHO understands the basis of the denial centres on Skrtel’s belief the incident was accidental." Unless you know different??

Looks accidental. It is reported that Skrtel says it was accidental.

Yet some here want to claim he intentionally went to "stamp" on the leg. 

It looked as "accidental" as Costa's stamp on Skrtel. And for that reason alone he should avoid a ban just like Costa did. Whether it was really accidental, or intentional, only the player knows.

But if Martin says it was accidental then fair enough I hope the FA believe he is telling the truth. I don't hold much hope though.

have we even gone more than a game without him the past few years? this is going to suck!

Still can't believe ANY Liverpool fan will say he stamped on De Gea on purpose.

Seriously shocked. Appalled actually.

Really? Gerrard did it

It's a deliberate stamp and it's a 3 match ban fully deserved. Being a Liverpool player means nothing.

I'm not sure any of us can comprehensively say one way or the other if it was deliberate or clumsy

There is only one man who knows

Whatever the outcome let's just deal with it and not use it as another reason to get at each other

I'm not sure any of us can comprehensively say one way or the other if it was deliberate or clumsy

There is only one man who knows

Whatever the outcome let's just deal with it and not use it as another reason to get at each other

True PD, but for me, Skittles has gotten frustrated and another moment of madness has ensued

Really? Gerrard did it

It's a deliberate stamp and it's a 3 match ban fully deserved. Being a Liverpool player means nothing.

There is a world of difference in the Gerrard incident and this one.
SG made a conscious decision and stuck his boot into the lad's leg, foolish in the extreme.
De Gea flung himself at the ball in what is considered an act of desperation - Skrtel was in full flow tear arsing in the direction of the goal, the 'keeper put his body in the way.
The result of such 'heroics' by the keeper invariably results in a booking or injury, it is a calculated tactic by the 'keeper because the ref always gives him the benefit of any doubt. The farcical writhing and rolling about for a full 5 minutes confirmed De Gea's motives.
There was only one F***ing side that benefitted with the referee's doubt in that game.

Fairly comfortable with this: "The ECHO understands the basis of the denial centres on Skrtel’s belief the incident was accidental." Unless you know different??

Looks accidental. It is reported that Skrtel says it was accidental.

Yet some here want to claim he intentionally went to "stamp" on the leg. 

How naïve are you mate.

Imagine if Skrtel came out and said 'We were getting beat and I was frustrated so I intended to stamp on him, he is a manc, f**k him, I wanted to break his leg'. As soon as he admits there is intent then he would face a very lengthy ban.

Skrtels challenge wasn't as serious as this but after Roy Keane wrote his book and admitted to purposely injuring Haland, the FA punished him for it even though he was given a straight red at the time and served a ban already. So of course Skrtel is going to deny any intent. If he admits intent he would be banned for months.

Think you need to watch the replay again mate. He purposely stamped on De Gea and deserves his ban IMO. If a manc had done that to one of our players we would be going nuts on here.

so what does this mean, if FA still find him guilty is the length of ban increased??
its his word against FA and we all know how that turns out.

Here's the thing, after watching it several times, I don't actually believe it was deliberate, he will still get banned though.  Not for the stamp itself, but because it was a reckless challenge. I don't think the FA can reduce this to a yellow, as it should have been, so the red will stand.

I honestly don't know wether or not it was intentional, I'd need to see where his eyes were pointed.
I don't see how his light stamp is any worse than Jones's kick on Lallana.

Skrtel has lost his appeal and will serve a 3 match ban.

I honestly don't know wether or not it was intentional, I'd need to see where his eyes were pointed.
I don't see how his light stamp is any worse than Jones's kick on Lallana.

You mean Jones knee high kick on Hendo? That should have been a red card.

Apparently Martin has posted a photograph of three crowns on instagram. One of the clowns is holding 3 fingers. Some sort of dig at the FA/United.

If he did it accidentally you would expect to see him apologising to De Gea.

Instead he was squaring off against him and getting involved in handbags.

Funny to be fair but probably going to get him into more hot water

If he did it accidentally you would expect to see him apologising to De Gea.

Instead he was squaring off against him and getting involved in handbags.

Which could have occurred because De Gea accused him of doing it deliberately as well.

Funny to be fair but probably going to get him into more hot water

they cant prove anything there... 

can FA increase the ban for him not agreeing to it??

Honestly, after getting ripped for Gerrards stamp and its obviousness I never really looked at Skrtls.. Judging by the angle shown, its way more debatable than I thought.. Didn't change stride or anything...?

He was a naughty boy and deserves his punishment. We have done ourselves a lot of damage to our season from last weekend, let's hope when He and Gerrard are available we are still in the fight for fourth and the hunt for the FA Cup

This is bullshit and it was his stride. The world has gone mad, don't mention certain players but non- English; yeah, lets F**k them over.
I thought I was too drunk to have missed it but I was so very lucid that it was bullshit even then, the one Liverpool incident that has haunted and disgusted me has been brushed over like it's a piece of toast.
Woo let's all pretend it's ok.

He did something daft and idiotic.  Deserves the ban.  I just hope he doesn't challenge it otherwise they could make it even longer than 3 games, then we will really be in trouble without him.

Why you haven't been banned yet is beyond me, you Chelsea supporting tool.

He was a naughty boy and deserves his punishment. We have done ourselves a lot of damage to our season from last weekend, let's hope when He and Gerrard are available we are still in the fight for fourth and the hunt for the FA Cup

Agree on all accounts.

Love Marty but his frustration got the better of him.

Why you haven't been banned yet is beyond me, you Chelsea supporting tool.

Not sure that sort of response is necessary considering Fed said exactly what a few others have been saying. Are we Chelsea supporting tools too? Grow up!

can't change anything now, hope the club have a quiet word about the instagram post however funny or appropriate it was, not worth risking an extra ban or fine from the fa fuckwits.

If there is any debate, it should be around the inconsistency of refereeing, not whether Skrtl should have been sent off or not. Interpretation of laws stated that

"A player is guilty of serious foul play if he uses excessive force or brutality
against an opponent when challenging for the ball when it is in play.
A tackle that endangers the safety of an opponent must be sanctioned as
serious foul play.
Any player who lunges at an opponent in challenging for the ball from the
front, from the side or from behind using one or both legs, with excessive force
and endangering the safety of an opponent is guilty of serious foul play.
Advantage should not be applied in situations involving serious foul play unless
there is a clear subsequent opportunity to score a goal. The referee must send
off the player guilty of serious foul play when the ball is next out of play."

In that sense, the ref was right to send Skrtl off. I would question the 3 game ban however, because 3 game bans are usually for violent conduct. Below is the interpretaton of violent conduct

"A player is guilty of violent conduct if he uses excessive force or brutality
against an opponent when not challenging for the ball.
He is also guilty of violent conduct if he uses excessive force or brutality against
a team-mate, spectator, match official or any other person.
Violent conduct may occur either on the fi eld of play or outside its boundaries,
whether the ball is in play or not.
Advantage should not be applied in situations involving violent conduct unless
there is a clear subsequent opportunity to score a goal. The referee must send
off the player guilty of violent conduct when the ball is next out of play.
Referees are reminded that violent conduct often leads to mass confrontation,
therefore they must try to avert this with active intervention.
A player, substitute or substituted player who is guilty of violent conduct must
be sent off."

Costa was right to be banned for 3 games for his stamp on Can because it was done off the ball, and not when challenging for it. Skrtl, in my opinion, was challenging for the ball but wrecklessly, so a red card and 1 game ban would have been the right decision.

The ref and the FA have made the most of the opportunity to f*ck us over. C***s.