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      Pre-Match: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Apr 06, 2015 09:30:02 am
      Who would you pick to face Blackburn? 3 or 4 at the back?

      I would go with this:

      Mignolet

      Johnson
      Lovren
      Sakho

      Ibe
      Henderson (c)
      Lucas
      Moreno

      Sterling
      Coutinho

      Sturridge

      Subs: Jones; Manquillo, Toure; Allen; Lallana; Balotelli, Borini.

      They have a major injury crisis with up to 10 first teamers out injured.

      0-2 - Studge and Sterling.

      YNWA!
      « Last Edit: Apr 08, 2015 07:15:28 pm by JD »
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #1: Apr 06, 2015 10:46:07 am
      I'd go with the same, but definitely that front 3 with Sterling and Coutinho behind Sturridge. Henderson needs to play central. With Johnson starting at RCB, we could easily switch the style to 4 at the back with Coutinho behind Sterling, Ibe and Sturridge if things aren't working out with the 3-5-2.

      Hopefully Ibe is back and invigorates that right flank, and I pray that Lucas is sharper with his passing than he was against Arsenal.

      Come on Reds, we need to bounce back with a run like we had after the 3-0 defeat at Old Trafford.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #2: Apr 06, 2015 11:04:22 am
      Ibe is cup-tied Im afraid.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #3: Apr 06, 2015 11:23:06 am
      Time for a change in my opinion.

      Mignolet

      Johnson   Lovren    Sakho   Enrique

      Lucas    Henderson

      Lallana    Coutinho    Sterling

      Sturridge

      Bench: Jones, Flanagan, Toure, Borini, Lambert, Allen, Manquillo.

      I don't want to see either Moreno or Markovic anywhere near the team and I do want to see Flanagan get some game time although clearly he's too match unfit to start. The only reason Toure makes the bench is because everyone else is suspended otherwise he'd pay the price for the weekend's performance. If we need to replace Sturridge, we can with Borini who is more like-for-like than any of the alternatives. Lambert provides that something different if we need it. If Enrique isn't fit then switch Johnson over to that side and put Manquillo in the team. Either way, I want some big game bollocks in there, not a bunch of kids who will crack under the first bit of pressure.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #4: Apr 06, 2015 11:58:04 am
      Johnson Lovren Sakho Enrique
                   Hendo  Lucas
                      Coutinho
           Sterling Balotelli Lallana

      A different approach is needed. Maybe it's time to look into Balotelli's strength and actually use them? With Sterling and Lallana playing as inside forwards, Coutinho will still have runners ahead of him. Allow Balotelli to play his game and stay up top and centrally where he'll hold the ball up, create and bring the inside forwards and Henderson into play. Just don't ask Balotelli to chase around, let him be in and around the box.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #5: Apr 06, 2015 12:04:46 pm
      I doubt Enrique, Flanno, Lallana or even Lucas will be fit for this so I expect Moreno and Allen to feature, unless Brendan decides to bring in some Academy kids.

      Brad Smith could do a job at LWB or LB but we're short of DM's due to injuries and loans.  Chirivella is nowhere near ready for a game this big.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #6: Apr 06, 2015 12:14:40 pm
      Mignolet

      Manquillo
      Lovren
      Sakho
      Flanagan

      Sterling
      Lucas
      Henderson
      Coutinho

      Balotelli
      Sturridge
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #7: Apr 06, 2015 12:18:17 pm
      No mistake, this game is now humongous.

      Gerrard, Skrtel, Can are all banned. We desperately need to win this, and then, if we get to the semi, & beat Villa, then we are into the Europa via the back door.

      Suspect Blackburn will come out all guns blazing, and we need to be strong, any wimps out there & we can kiss this game good bye.

      Strongest possible team in all areas is a must.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #8: Apr 06, 2015 12:24:56 pm
      Diamond please.

      Mignolet; Manquillo, Lovren, Sakho, Enrique; Lucas, Henderson, Allen, Coutinho; Sterling, Sturridge.

      Johnson if Enrique isn't fit.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #9: Apr 06, 2015 12:31:47 pm
      If we can't beat Blackburn then the wheels have well and truly come off.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #10: Apr 06, 2015 12:57:16 pm
      Diamond please.

      Mignolet; Manquillo, Lovren, Sakho, Enrique; Lucas, Henderson, Allen, Coutinho; Sterling, Sturridge.

      Johnson if Enrique isn't fit.

      Exactly that! But rather start Johnson straight away..
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #11: Apr 06, 2015 12:59:51 pm
      If we can't beat Blackburn then the wheels have well and truly come off.

       ;) ;) xxxxx:action-smiley-065: xxxxx:action-smiley-065: :o :o
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #12: Apr 06, 2015 02:37:18 pm
      Don't mess about with it. Play a strong team, play to win. I want the FA Cup.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #13: Apr 06, 2015 03:05:58 pm
      I read somewhere that Blackburn have a load of injuries they're dealing with. Any truth?
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #14: Apr 06, 2015 03:45:13 pm
      I'm going for four at the back and two at the front, seeing as our last 3 games have technically been woeful. Sturridge and Balotelli going to give this lot a good tonking and restore some much needed confidence.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #15: Apr 06, 2015 03:47:13 pm
      Can, Gerrard, Skrtel - suspended, Ibe cup-tied, Lallana, Lovren - injured, Johnson, Enrique, Manquillo, Lambert - rusty as not played for ages, Flano, Lucas - miles of the pace after injury, Kolo - most likely sidelined after a bust-up with Rodgers, Balotelli, Borini - frozen out, Moreno, Sturridge - in dreadful form, Sterling, Henderson - heads turned.

      I´ll be literally sprinting to the bookies when they re-open 2morro morning and put my monts wages on Blacburn. We havent been in such a shocking state for a good few years now.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #16: Apr 06, 2015 03:52:56 pm
      Don't mess about with it. Play a strong team, play to win. I want the FA Cup.

      So do I but we would have to find a way of beating Arsenal, but maybe by then Rodgers and his bunch of Merry men will have figured out that the current formation doesn't work, I mean it only took them a 3rd of the season to work it out last time!
      In all honesty I'm not overly optimistic that we'll get past Blackburn the way we are playing at the moment.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #17: Apr 06, 2015 03:58:51 pm
      Can, Gerrard, Skrtel - suspended, Ibe cup-tied, Lallana, Lovren - injured, Johnson, Enrique, Manquillo, Lambert - rusty as not played for ages, Flano, Lucas - miles of the pace after injury, Kolo - most likely sidelined after a bust-up with Rodgers, Balotelli, Borini - frozen out, Moreno, Sturridge - in dreadful form, Sterling, Henderson - heads turned.

      I´ll be literally sprinting to the bookies when they re-open 2morro morning and put my monts wages on Blacburn. We havent been in such a shocking state for a good few years now.

      really ?
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #18: Apr 06, 2015 04:22:13 pm
      Can, Gerrard, Skrtel - suspended, Ibe cup-tied, Lallana, Lovren - injured, Johnson, Enrique, Manquillo, Lambert - rusty as not played for ages, Flano, Lucas - miles of the pace after injury, Kolo - most likely sidelined after a bust-up with Rodgers, Balotelli, Borini - frozen out, Moreno, Sturridge - in dreadful form, Sterling, Henderson - heads turned.

      I´ll be literally sprinting to the bookies when they re-open 2morro morning and put my monts wages on Blacburn. We havent been in such a shocking state for a good few years now.

      You'd bet against your own team?

      What a F***ing hero you are...

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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #19: Apr 06, 2015 04:41:47 pm
      How dare the fa arrange the game whilst we're bickering amongst ourselves

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      Johnson. Henderson Lucas  Moreno
      sterling.   coutinho.  Sturridge
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #20: Apr 06, 2015 05:09:35 pm
      Can, Gerrard, Skrtel - suspended, Ibe cup-tied, Lallana, Lovren - injured, Johnson, Enrique, Manquillo, Lambert - rusty as not played for ages, Flano, Lucas - miles of the pace after injury, Kolo - most likely sidelined after a bust-up with Rodgers, Balotelli, Borini - frozen out, Moreno, Sturridge - in dreadful form, Sterling, Henderson - heads turned.

      I´ll be literally sprinting to the bookies when they re-open 2morro morning and put my monts wages on Blacburn. We havent been in such a shocking state for a good few years now.

      Ha ha what a F***ing goat!
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #21: Apr 06, 2015 05:33:53 pm
      Arguably, Brendan's biggest game since becoming manager.

      God know's who he picks with the suspensions, lads out of form and the likes of Flanno, Enrique, Johnson etc etc lacking match fitness.

      Maybe revert back to flat back four and the diamond? Who knows but will be a start to play players in their natural positions.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #22: Apr 06, 2015 06:30:22 pm
      Not sure about the hodge-podge that will makeup our back line, but up front I'd have either Balo and Sturridge or Lambert and Sturridge at least to start.

      Think we need two strikers to try and spread out and stress their backline a bit.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #23: Apr 06, 2015 06:34:55 pm
      Really desperate game for the Reds and Brendan here, other than a win will see the season going pear shaped. Every player seems to need to stand up and be counted.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #24: Apr 06, 2015 06:46:27 pm


      I´ll be literally sprinting to the bookies when they re-open 2morro morning and put my monts wages on Blacburn. We havent been in such a shocking state for a good few years now.

      Well hopefully you lose all your money, and you know what, you totally deserve to.
      I never have, and never will back against Liverpool, it just goes against the grain.

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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #25: Apr 06, 2015 07:11:31 pm
      Anyone betting against the Reds, deserves to fall flat on his arse, in my view, losing all his dosh.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #26: Apr 06, 2015 09:48:05 pm
      Every player seems to need to stand up and be counted.

      Yeah, like they did against United and Arsenal.

      Sorry, i'm F***ing depressed at the moment and can't seem to find any salvation.

      At least the Blackburn squad is decimated, more than ours.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #27: Apr 07, 2015 05:34:51 am
      Yeah, like they did against United and Arsenal.

      Sorry, i'm f**king depressed at the moment and can't seem to find any salvation.

      At least the Blackburn squad is decimated, more than ours.


      Don't apologise mate your not the only one.

      Hoping that Greste lad is out as I read last night he might be can fully see him destroying the two clowns at the back we had starting at Arsenal.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #28: Apr 07, 2015 09:27:01 am
      Johnson Lovren Sakho Enrique
                   Hendo  Lucas
                      Coutinho
           Sterling Balotelli Lallana

      A different approach is needed. Maybe it's time to look into Balotelli's strength and actually use them? With Sterling and Lallana playing as inside forwards, Coutinho will still have runners ahead of him. Allow Balotelli to play his game and stay up top and centrally where he'll hold the ball up, create and bring the inside forwards and Henderson into play. Just don't ask Balotelli to chase around, let him be in and around the box.

      F**k, now we don't need a GK  ;)

      I'm not sure who Brendan will pay but the lads need to come out and get the job done and get some confidence back.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #29: Apr 07, 2015 09:54:49 am
      No ifs no buts just get out there and beat Blackburn, this is a chance for our players to put some pride back in the club. Let's hope that LFCREDS is a happy forum come Wednesday night.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #30: Apr 07, 2015 10:11:40 am
      Play players in their natural position.
      Play with recognised strikers even if that's Borini.
      Play with aggression and commitment.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #31: Apr 07, 2015 10:17:19 am
      Play players in their natural position.
      Play with recognised strikers even if that's Borini.
      Play with aggression and commitment.

      Spot on, we cannot afford  not to win this one.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #32: Apr 07, 2015 10:39:43 am
      Are people really calling 4-4-2, Manquillo and Enrique back in their little fantasy teams? Things are bad at the moment but not that bad.

                      Mignolet

         Johnson  Lovren   Sakho

                       Lucas
      Sterling   Henderson   Moreno
                     Coutinho

             Balotelli      Sturridge
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      Reply #33: Apr 07, 2015 11:22:06 am
      Are people really calling 4-4-2, Manquillo and Enrique back in their little fantasy teams? Things are bad at the moment but not that bad.

                      Mignolet

         Johnson  Lovren   Sakho

                       Lucas
      Sterling   Henderson   Moreno
                     Coutinho

             Balotelli      Sturridge

      I agree...
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #34: Apr 07, 2015 11:43:38 am
      Are people really calling 4-4-2, Manquillo and Enrique back in their little fantasy teams? Things are bad at the moment but not that bad.

                      Mignolet

         Johnson  Lovren   Sakho

                       Lucas
      Sterling   Henderson   Moreno
                     Coutinho

             Balotelli      Sturridge

      Yeah because the current formation is working so well right now isn't it?? A good manager would adapt, which is exactly what Wenger and Van Gaal did to beat us with ease. Over the last few games the current formation has been exposed so it needs to be altered and a traditional 4-4-2 might be just the ticket.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #35: Apr 07, 2015 11:55:58 am
      Anyone betting against the Reds, deserves to fall flat on his arse, in my view, losing all his dosh.
      I never understand this point of view. If we win I´ll celebrate like always. If you like a bet here and there, you look at a game in hand and if you see a value you just back the team with better chances of winning. You cant bet win your heart, you´d lose a fortune.

      Even if you won a milion on overpriced Blackburn at 9/2 it´d not be paid to you by John Henry or LFC players so I dont get why people think its so "wrong" to bet against Liverpool. You gamble against the bookies not the team you support.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #36: Apr 07, 2015 12:06:17 pm
      I never understand this point of view. If we win I´ll celebrate like always. If you like a bet here and there, you look at a game in hand and if you see a value you just back the team with better chances of winning. You cant bet win your heart, you´d lose a fortune.

      Even if you won a milion on overpriced Blackburn at 9/2 it´d not be paid to you by John Henry or LFC players so I dont get why people think its so "wrong" to bet against Liverpool. You gamble against the bookies not the team you support.

      So you'll bet on us to lose but hope we win?

      How in the name of sweet F**k does that work?
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #37: Apr 07, 2015 12:12:32 pm
      So you'll bet on us to lose but hope we win?

      How in the name of sweet F**k does that work?

      So you'll bet on us to lose but hope we win?

      How in the name of sweet F**k does that work?

      I actually know a few people who do this. A few of my City supporting mates put £50 on Stoke to beat them in the FA Cup final just in case they lost. I know of a few Liverpool fans who do this occasionally too. I just avoid betting on us altogether to be honest.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #38: Apr 07, 2015 12:15:42 pm
      I actually know a few people who do this. A few of my City supporting mates put £50 on Stoke to beat them in the FA Cup final just in case they lost. I know of a few Liverpool fans who do this occasionally too. I just avoid betting on us altogether to be honest.

      Wankers.

      I can't imagine sitting watching the game hoping we win yet knowing I had money to gain on us losing.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #39: Apr 07, 2015 12:16:41 pm
      I actually know a few people who do this. A few of my City supporting mates put £50 on Stoke to beat them in the FA Cup final just in case they lost. I know of a few Liverpool fans who do this occasionally too. I just avoid betting on us altogether to be honest.

      I wouldn't do it. But I can see why. If we win I'm going to be happy as F**k regardless of what cash might have been won.
      If we lose, well hey, atleast the drinks I'm going to need to buy to console myself are going to be paid for.

      Its like insurance - you don't hope for your house to burn down, but if it does, its not a total bust.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #40: Apr 07, 2015 12:20:12 pm
      Yeah because the current formation is working so well right now isn't it?? A good manager would adapt, which is exactly what Wenger and Van Gaal did to beat us with ease. Over the last few games the current formation has been exposed so it needs to be altered and a traditional 4-4-2 might be just the ticket.

      Well I would say the formation is working well - 2 results don't wipe out the rest of the results since the start of the year. And I also don't think the formation is the reason why we lost. The only reason to change the formation should not be based on the last two results, but if the players we have available for the fixture are not deemed adequate for the demands of the 3-4-3, which is entirely possible with Skrtel and Can unavailable.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #41: Apr 07, 2015 12:59:40 pm
      Its not just the 2 results Thad. It was coming for a while before that. Burnley tested us big time, then mighty Blackburn gave us a game, Swans would destroyed us but for poor finishing/great Mignolet. The writing was on the wall as players had been losing belief in the set-up, in my opinion.

      Heres what Gary Bowyer, the Blacburn boss had to say before the game at Anfield:

      'I think they're the most impressive team in the Premier League at the moment and the football that they're playing is fantastic. Obviously full credit to the manager for the way he changed his formation.
      'We've studied the videos, we've come up with a gameplan, and we've worked with the players on it.
      We'll go and take the challenge to Liverpool.
      'We've been very organised and very disciplined in the previous meetings with the Premier League teams, and then of course along the way you need a bit of luck."

      Thats exactly what they did. Rovers could have been a goal or two up in the first half easily. And thats maybe why some people are worried that Rodgers is not going to alter his set-up. Bowyer will bee praying we play three at the back again, like LVG and Wenger will have been and we oblige.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #42: Apr 07, 2015 01:19:02 pm
      Its not just the 2 results Thad. It was coming for a while before that. Burnley tested us big time, then mighty Blackburn gave us a game, Swans would destroyed us but for poor finishing/great Mignolet. The writing was on the wall as players had been losing belief in the set-up, in my opinion.

      Heres what Gary Bowyer, the Blacburn boss had to say before the game at Anfield:

      'We've studied the videos, we've come up with a gameplan, and we've worked with the players on it.

      Their manager studied the videos and had a game plan. Does BR and his backroom boys do the same. Obviously no, its the opposite, otherwise, they wouldn't be playing the same tactics and players and got beaten so convincingly game after game. He's just too stubborn with his tactics and too naive not to study the opposition strengths and weaknesses.
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      Reply #43: Apr 07, 2015 01:27:11 pm
      Their manager studied the videos and had a game plan. Does BR and his backroom boys do the same. Obviously no, its the opposite, otherwise, they wouldn't be playing the same tactics and players and got beaten so convincingly game after game. He's just too stubborn with his tactics and too naive not to study the opposition strengths and weaknesses.

      Yea you are probably right. Rodgers and his staff probably don't do what every other manager in the Premier League (and probably the lower leagues as well) does by studying game film.

      I've heard a lot of whoppers on here....this may take the cake. At least for today anyway. :lmao:
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      Reply #44: Apr 07, 2015 01:36:57 pm
      One thing I'm sure of, the support away at Blackburn will better anything seen at Anfield this season, for that there is hope.

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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #45: Apr 07, 2015 01:37:49 pm
      Yea you are probably right. Rodgers and his staff probably don't do what every other manager in the Premier League (and probably the lower leagues as well) does by studying game film.

      I've heard a lot of whoppers on here....this may take the cake. At least for today anyway. :lmao:

      We do get exposed by the obvious though FL.

      For instance against United, everyone and his brother knew their tactics yet we were set up poorly against them. The same has happened many times when we're against lower league opposition, they have strong men in the middle and we send out meak and mild (Henderson and Allen), exactly the same against the Bitters.

      So while he will without doubt study their matches we don't set up to counter their strengths, we seem to believe that as long as we play our game it's enough. Well that isn't the case in many instances and we've been found out many times because of it. What annoys me more is that it always takes until half-time for a change in shape/system to come into play, why? When it's obvious it's not working it should be changed quicker. It's a similar gripe to his formations, it's only when it's completely failed does he change, so yes he learns from his mistakes but the length of time it takes to learn could be vastly improved upon.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #46: Apr 07, 2015 01:53:43 pm
      Yeah because the current formation is working so well right now isn't it?? A good manager would adapt, which is exactly what Wenger and Van Gaal did to beat us with ease. Over the last few games the current formation has been exposed so it needs to be altered and a traditional 4-4-2 might be just the ticket.

      Oh right ok then. So losing two games since mid December with the 3-4-3 formation makes it all a disaster then does it and we should just abandon it and go back to 4-4-2 that we aren't familiar with any more & were getting beat every week lying 11th in the league using that formation until Brendan switched to 3 at the back? Ok then yeah sounds good to me.


      Its not just the 2 results Thad. It was coming for a while before that. Burnley tested us big time, then mighty Blackburn gave us a game, Swans would destroyed us but for poor finishing/great Mignolet. The writing was on the wall as players had been losing belief in the set-up, in my opinion.

      Heres what Gary Bowyer, the Blacburn boss had to say before the game at Anfield:

      'I think they're the most impressive team in the Premier League at the moment and the football that they're playing is fantastic. Obviously full credit to the manager for the way he changed his formation.
      'We've studied the videos, we've come up with a gameplan, and we've worked with the players on it.
      We'll go and take the challenge to Liverpool.
      'We've been very organised and very disciplined in the previous meetings with the Premier League teams, and then of course along the way you need a bit of luck."

      Thats exactly what they did. Rovers could have been a goal or two up in the first half easily. And thats maybe why some people are worried that Rodgers is not going to alter his set-up. Bowyer will bee praying we play three at the back again, like LVG and Wenger will have been and we oblige.

      You're talking sh*t.

      1. Burnley tested us 'big time'. No they didn't. We controlled the game from start to finish without getting out of second gear. Two class moments from Hendo and the game was won comfortably. They barely tested us or caused any problems.

      2. Swansea were the better team in the first half. We simply didn't turn up. By the end of the second half we were completely the better team and deserved the 3 points. Both managers said as much.

      3. Well done Blackburn for watching videos of us, turning up, and parking two double decker buses. We dominated the game just couldn't score - we were poor in the final third.

      Yet despite your observations, we got 6 points from the first two and are still in the hat for the semi finals of the cup.



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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #47: Apr 07, 2015 01:58:42 pm
      We do get exposed by the obvious though FL.

      For instance against United, everyone and his brother knew their tactics yet we were set up poorly against them. The same has happened many times when we're against lower league opposition, they have strong men in the middle and we send out meak and mild (Henderson and Allen), exactly the same against the Bitters.

      So while he will without doubt study their matches we don't set up to counter their strengths, we seem to believe that as long as we play our game it's enough. Well that isn't the case in many instances and we've been found out many times because of it. What annoys me more is that it always takes until half-time for a change in shape/system to come into play, why? When it's obvious it's not working it should be changed quicker. It's a similar gripe to his formations, it's only when it's completely failed does he change, so yes he learns from his mistakes but the length of time it takes to learn could be vastly improved upon.

      I think our tactics would have worked fine had the players show some ball sack and not cowhered.

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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #48: Apr 07, 2015 03:53:51 pm
      Their manager studied the videos and had a game plan. Does BR and his backroom boys do the same. Obviously no, its the opposite, otherwise, they wouldn't be playing the same tactics and players and got beaten so convincingly game after game. He's just too stubborn with his tactics and too naive not to study the opposition strengths and weaknesses.

      Is this sarcasm or are you retarded?
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      Reply #49: Apr 07, 2015 09:54:40 pm
      This game's a lot more important after the last 2 PL results. Whoever starts they'll need to play with more passion and determination than at the Emirates. If we don't improve on that performance, we'll get beat again.
      Seem to have lost our cutting edge, and that's hard to get back. But whatever about that, if we get stuck in an match them for effort, we should have enough quality to squeeze past.
      Expecting a tough tight game. BR could really do with pulling this one out of the bag and get us into the next round, which I think is winnable.
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      Reply #50: Apr 07, 2015 11:02:34 pm
      One thing I'm sure of, the support away at Blackburn will better anything seen at Anfield this season, for that there is hope.



      I'll be there !!  :scarf: :kop5cf8koxp6: :aaliverpoolwz0: :aaliverpool2xt1:

      Only my second away game this season and I'm already mega excited, just hope it doesn't go to extra time and pens, not sure my heart can stand that.

      Would like to see Lovren drafted into the back, Toure, sorry, just not quick enough or good enough and I'd like to see Borini given a chance up front with Studge, at least he has a bit of pace.... wonder if Super Mario will rule himself out of this one too !!

      Going for a nervy 2-1 to us !! Bring it on and let's get to Wem-ber-ley !!

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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #51: Apr 07, 2015 11:30:05 pm
      With Skrtel and Can suspended we dont have the personel to play 3 at the back so i would go with

      Migs
      Manquillo
      Lovren
      Sakho
      Moreno
      Lucas
      Henderson
      Coutinho
      Markovic
      Sterling
      Sturridge

      Plenty of attacking threat there to keep them pinned in their own half.

      A comfortable win seeing as though their own version of Andy Carroll is out for this one.
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      Reply #52: Apr 08, 2015 01:19:45 am
      I never understand this point of view. If we win I´ll celebrate like always. If you like a bet here and there, you look at a game in hand and if you see a value you just back the team with better chances of winning. You cant bet win your heart, you´d lose a fortune.

      Even if you won a milion on overpriced Blackburn at 9/2 it´d not be paid to you by John Henry or LFC players so I dont get why people think its so "wrong" to bet against Liverpool. You gamble against the bookies not the team you support.

      the phrase more money than sense springs to mind
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      Reply #53: Apr 08, 2015 09:02:06 am
                                         Mignolet

               Johnson              Sakho              Lovren

      Markovic          Lucas              Hendo            Flanno

                  Borini             Lambert          Balotelli
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #54: Apr 08, 2015 09:12:52 am
      I suppose it is like having compensation for a defeat, the question is which would you prefer, a win or a pay out if you know, what I am saying.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #55: Apr 08, 2015 09:16:57 am
      It's squeaky bum time.

      I have no idea how this one will pan out. Massive game though.

      Hope to see the back of three CBs tonight.

      Come on lads, lets not F**k this up.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #56: Apr 08, 2015 09:24:14 am
      It's squeaky bum time.

      I have no idea how this one will pan out. Massive game though.

      Hope to see the back of three CBs tonight.

      Come on lads, lets not F**k this up.

      It'll be a back 3 mate, Brendan said as much yesterday.  Johno, Lovren and Sakho I reckon as we're far too open with a 4 and no protection in front of them.

      We'll be fine tonight, the lads will have shaken off their stupour of the last couple of games, they need this trophy and they need to prove to themselves they're winners.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #57: Apr 08, 2015 09:54:49 am
      With Skrtel and Can suspended we dont have the personel to play 3 at the back so i would go with

      Migs
      Manquillo
      Lovren
      Sakho
      Moreno
      Lucas
      Henderson
      Coutinho
      Markovic
      Sterling
      Sturridge

      Plenty of attacking threat there to keep them pinned in their own half.

      A comfortable win seeing as though their own version of Andy Carroll is out for this one.

      We'd concede about 50 with a back four like that.

      Blackburn have far more injuries than us apparently so we have no excuses for this one, we should win it and I expect us to. Will be disappointed if we don't!
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #58: Apr 08, 2015 10:45:43 am

      You're talking sh*t.

      1. Burnley tested us 'big time'. No they didn't. We controlled the game from start to finish without getting out of second gear. Two class moments from Hendo and the game was won comfortably. They barely tested us or caused any problems.

      2. Swansea were the better team in the first half. We simply didn't turn up. By the end of the second half we were completely the better team and deserved the 3 points. Both managers said as much.

      3. Well done Blackburn for watching videos of us, turning up, and parking two double decker buses. We dominated the game just couldn't score - we were poor in the final third.

      Yet despite your observations, we got 6 points from the first two and are still in the hat for the semi finals of the cup.
      We watched different games then mate, I guess it happens with so much football on TV these days.

      We did turn up at Swansea. But they pressed, completely nullified our attacking treat, and when got the ball they just purposely attacked empty space behind our offensive minded wingbacks - drawing CB´s across thus opening pockets right infront of our goal as well. Swans were not just "the better side" as you gloss over, they were all over us and with slightly better finishers in the team it would have been game over after half an hour. Only after adjustments at half time we got into it.

      Blackburn sat deeper, invited us forward but when we lost it they did exactly the same as Swans - attacked space esp. behind Sterling on our left, missing two glorious chances on the counter in the 1st half. Rovers added areal treat too only for Migs super save to deny them. We had Lallana penalty apeal and Sturridge shot in the 1st half for all our "domination", yes we got more chances towards the end when they tired.

      I give you Burnley as they were rather poor but we were no great shakes either.

      Six points yes, but these teams have shown the receipt how to deal with us. LVG and Wenger with better teams in hand didnt need more to know and duly executed their plans. You have to keep and move the ball perfectly with this risky set-up or you´ll get punished hard. Our ball retention been abysmal recently so its no surprise seeing teams pressing us high up the pitch. We have no answer to that. Going back to four DEFENDERS would be a step to right direction but much more of desire, and quallity on the ball is needed to get us out of this slump.

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      Toure       Lovren       Sakho    Johnson

                              Lucas

                    Hendo          Allen

          Markovič    Sterling      Coutinho
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #59: Apr 08, 2015 11:32:50 am
                                         Mignolet

               Johnson              Sakho              Lovren

      Markovic          Lucas              Hendo            Flanno

                  Borini             Lambert          Balotelli

      I'm not sure even where to begin with this line IP mate.

      Lambert, Balotelli and Borini??

      Jesus wept.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #60: Apr 08, 2015 12:03:45 pm
      I understand people are disappointed after the recent losses but why change to a back 4 when we've had our best defensive run in Brendans time with a 3.

      Sure Blackburn stifled us in the home game but they came to defend and succeeded but they're at home now and will want to try to win.  That means there'll be space all over the pitch for us exploit.

      Go with an attacking line up, with lots of goal threats and we'll be fine, play timid defensive sh*t and we'll sent home crying.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #61: Apr 08, 2015 01:47:12 pm
      I understand people are disappointed after the recent losses but why change to a back 4 when we've had our best defensive run in Brendans time with a 3.

      Sure Blackburn stifled us in the home game but they came to defend and succeeded but they're at home now and will want to try to win.  That means there'll be space all over the pitch for us exploit.

      Go with an attacking line up, with lots of goal threats and we'll be fine, play timid defensive sh*t and we'll sent home crying.

      No Can or Skrtel means going with either Johnson or Toure as a back 3 alongside Lovren and Sakho, not a good mix.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #62: Apr 08, 2015 01:53:44 pm
      I understand people are disappointed after the recent losses but why change to a back 4 when we've had our best defensive run in Brendans time with a 3.

      Sure Blackburn stifled us in the home game but they came to defend and succeeded but they're at home now and will want to try to win.  That means there'll be space all over the pitch for us exploit.

      Go with an attacking line up, with lots of goal threats and we'll be fine, play timid defensive sh*t and we'll sent home crying.

      I  agree, stick with what we've been doing.

      I don't think the formation's what cost us those games...I think it's the players having no testicular fortitude and allowing themselves to get overrun.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #63: Apr 08, 2015 02:06:41 pm
      No Can or Skrtel means going with either Johnson or Toure as a back 3 alongside Lovren and Sakho, not a good mix.

      But Johnson, Lovren and Sakho is still stronger defensively than going with a back 4.  Lucas still isn't fully fit and played on Saturday so the defense won't have any protection.  We are shocking with a back 4, have been for nearly 3 seasons so why would we go back to it when we need a win.

      I  agree, stick with what we've been doing.

      I don't think the formation's what cost us those games...I think it's the players having no testicular fortitude and allowing themselves to get overrun.

      We were far too timid in our last 2 games mate.  Our wb's were in no mans land instead of pushing up, forcing the opposition to defend rather than keep coming at us.

      We don't do well playing within ourselves, we have to play at full throttle and take our chances.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #64: Apr 08, 2015 03:19:38 pm
      Think we'll see this

      Migs
      Lovren-Toure-Sakho
      Johnson-Hendo-Allen-Markovic
      Sterling-Coutinho
      Studge

      Subs- Jones, Manquillo, Moreno, Lucas, Brannagan, Borini, Lambert
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #65: Apr 08, 2015 04:28:39 pm
      Is lallana fit again, and is flanno anywhere near match fit ?
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #66: Apr 08, 2015 04:29:04 pm
      Is lallana fit again, and is flanno anywhere near match fit ?

      I think both are out, but I could be wrong so take that with a grain of salt.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #67: Apr 08, 2015 04:30:00 pm
      I hope Jordan Rhodes does not play, he's one of my favorite players in the lower leagues and a top finisher
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #68: Apr 08, 2015 04:40:48 pm
      Is lallana fit again, and is flanno anywhere near match fit ?

      Lallana no but Flanno and possibly Ibe should be available for Newcastle next Monday.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #69: Apr 08, 2015 04:54:11 pm
      It's been said before but I think this may be a 'must win' game tonight, I'm going for a 3-1 win!
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      Reply #70: Apr 08, 2015 05:36:13 pm
      I gather the pitch is pretty crap, so there is no point in putting out an Optima Pass Completion Index side, (although my cynicism says that we will).
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #71: Apr 08, 2015 06:48:47 pm
      I gather the pitch is pretty crap, so there is no point in putting out an Optima Pass Completion Index side, (although my cynicism says that we will).
      Well our pitch has been pretty poor of late so we should be used to it now , coyr show some pride in that shirt.
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      Re: Blackburn v Liverpool Weds 8th April 19:45KO - FA Cup QF
      Reply #72: Apr 08, 2015 07:15:09 pm
      Pre Match Topic Locked.

      The FA Cup continues or ends in this thread -> http://www.lfcreds.com/reds/index.php/topic,47568.0.html

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