Liverpool may ditch transfer committee as they look to change recruitment policy

It's a common phenomenon in life FL Red.  It's a bit like the people wanting to pay £500+ for a ticket to the Newcastle game last season but are surprisingly absent when we are playing Accrington Stanley in the 3rd round of the League Cup.

Don't act surprised.

Success (eg. Istanbul) seemingly creates new 'passionate fans' or 'customers'.  Failure helps them go shopping elsewhere.  I'd imagine of all the millions of Liverpool fans around the world there is a certain percentage who won't be fans for their entire life.

Wonder how big that number is.

Or maybe it's a bit of taking for granted.....I'd be blown away if I got to see the Reds play against anyone, maybe some local supporters have lost that fervent desire?  I'll probably be lucky to ever get to see a match, but you can bet if I get to, I won't care who it's against or how good we are at the time.

AmericanPlant,

Debt is not a bad thing per se, you deluded tw*t. It's clear as daylight you know absolutely f*ck all about economics and those numbers are the same to you as a concept of loans to a mouse.

Arsenal have a debt of 240m, United - 342m, Chelsea - 958m, Newcastle - 129m.
Sauce: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3016432/Club-club-guide-Premier-League-s-financial-health.html

Debt is a natural thing and is not always bad. Here, give your remaining grey cells some food before they all die in that empty bucket you call your head: http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/money101/lesson9/index2.htm

Or maybe it's a bit of taking for granted.....I'd be blown away if I got to see the Reds play against anyone, maybe some local supporters have lost that fervent desire?

Maybe it's the fact that 'some' have been priced out of the game in recent years?

I'll probably be lucky to ever get to see a match

8 hours on a plane is it?

Or maybe it's a bit of taking for granted.....I'd be blown away if I got to see the Reds play against anyone, maybe some local supporters have lost that fervent desire?  I'll probably be lucky to ever get to see a match, but you can bet if I get to, I won't care who it's against or how good we are at the time.

Or maybe the local support is aging and those who should be taking their place (ie young teenagers and other youngish lads in their 20s) have been priced out of going.

AmericanPlant,

 you deluded tw*t.

Glad to see mods have clocked you already. Lose the argument and you start hurling abuse.
Quelle Surprise.. 
What a coincidence. Hollywood Balls disappears, and the (cough) "all new" Phect appears.

I see you copied and pasted the rest from when you were working for Hicks and Gilette defending THEIR purchase debt.
Parasites weren't welcome as Blaggers v1. Not welcome as Blaggers v2.
Same sh*t, different name. In more ways than one.

So... who is to blame for failed transfers over a 9 transfer window period? Let's look at the main protagonists...

Director of Football - Damien Comolli. Hired by FSG.
Manager - Kenny Dalglish. Hired by FSG.
Head of Recruitment - Dave Fallows. Hired by FSG (prior to Brendan Rodgers arrival), by FSG - side-kick Barry Hunter.
Head of Performance and Analysis - Michael Edwards. Brought in by Damien Comolli; promoted by FSG. Side-kick - Ian Graham.
Managing Director - Ian Ayre. Promoted by FSG.
Director - Mike Gordon. Sits on the board of Liverpool and FSG - FSG's "eyes and ears on Merseyside".
Manager - Brendan Rodgers. Hired "after an extensive search" by FSG.

I believe it's safe to say that, through this 'time' [9 transfer windows], the fans have a) invariably blamed 'failed transfers' for the position we found/find ourselves in and b) looked to blame those they perceive to have made those transfers happen, often calling for those people to be sacked.

During those 9 transfer windows we have had a Director of Football and a Committee; Kenny Dalglish and Brendan Rodgers. Each and every one of those have been blamed, by fans, for (let's be honest) a pish poor transfer record but ask yourselves this...

How can so many separate entities have got it so wrong so often and over such a long period? Why where/are all these [footballing] people so bad?

Have FSG just been really unlucky in their choice people with a football background or could there, somehow, be a flaw which is underlying and constant? If hiring firing and hiring again hasn't worked could it be that, maybe, this  is not the answer; that maybe they should look elsewhere for the solution: that maybe they should target the flaw?

We all know who many of our fans blame but it'll be interesting and telling (in my opinion) who or what FSG blame this time 'round. 

Or maybe it's a bit of taking for granted.....I'd be blown away if I got to see the Reds play against anyone, maybe some local supporters have lost that fervent desire?  I'll probably be lucky to ever get to see a match, but you can bet if I get to, I won't care who it's against or how good we are at the time.

I think you might have misinterpreted JD's point FL.

For every one of you there are millions of others who start to support the club after a period of success but will gradually fall away when things start to go downhill a little.

His many of those who started following the club after Istanbul will still support the club if we never reach a CL final again?

I started supporting the club as it runs in the family on my Mums side as I have uncles who got me into the club and I think that bond may be slightly stronger.

AmericanPlant,

Debt is not a bad thing per se, you deluded tw*t. It's clear as daylight you know absolutely f*ck all about economics and those numbers are the same to you as a concept of loans to a mouse.

Arsenal have a debt of 240m, United - 342m, Chelsea - 958m, Newcastle - 129m.
Sauce: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3016432/Club-club-guide-Premier-League-s-financial-health.html

Debt is a natural thing and is not always bad. Here, give your remaining grey cells some food before they all die in that empty bucket you call your head: http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/money101/lesson9/index2.htm

With the exception of Newcastle none of those clubs can be compared to LFC.
They all invest in the asset, they buy world class players that the American, Arabic and Russian owners do not vet but leave that job to qualified professionals - with the exception of Newcastle all of those clubs are pissing on us as we type.

Realistically speaking our American owners with their fleeting knowledge of the ins and outs of soccer transfer fees and relative worth have us on a par with the likes of Newcastle out of the teams you yourself foist on us as examples of acceptable debt management.

Remind me again who is managing our debt?

Paradoxically it could be said the manager is all that stands between LFC and a Newcastle scenario.

 

So... who is to blame for failed transfers over a 9 transfer window period? Let's look at the main protagonists...

Director of Football - Damien Comolli. Hired by FSG.
Manager - Kenny Dalglish. Hired by FSG.
Head of Recruitment - Dave Fallows. Hired by FSG (prior to Brendan Rodgers arrival), by FSG - side-kick Barry Hunter.
Head of Performance and Analysis - Michael Edwards. Brought in by Damien Comolli; promoted by FSG. Side-kick - Ian Graham.
Managing Director - Ian Ayre. Promoted by FSG.
Director - Mike Gordon. Sits on the board of Liverpool and FSG - FSG's "eyes and ears on Merseyside".
Manager - Brendan Rodgers. Hired "after an extensive search" by FSG.

I believe it's safe to say that, through this 'time' [9 transfer windows], the fans have a) invariably blamed 'failed transfers' for the position we found/find ourselves in and b) looked to blame those they perceive to have made those transfers happen, often calling for those people to be sacked.

During those 9 transfer windows we have had a Director of Football and a Committee; Kenny Dalglish and Brendan Rodgers. Each and every one of those have been blamed, by fans, for (let's be honest) a pish poor transfer record but ask yourselves this...

How can so many separate entities have got it so wrong so often and over such a long period? Why where/are all these [footballing] people so bad?

Have FSG just been really unlucky in their choice people with a football background or could there, somehow, be a flaw which is underlying and constant? If hiring firing and hiring again hasn't worked could it be that, maybe, this  is not the answer; that maybe they should look elsewhere for the solution: that maybe they should target the flaw?

We all know who many of our fans blame but it'll be interesting and telling (in my opinion) who or what FSG blame this time 'round. 

The fans will continue to blame whoever they feel is responsible for our "failed" transfer dealings Mouse however I don't believe that FSG think our transfer strategy has failed. 

Even with changes to the personnel involved in transfers, the policy will remain.

The fans will continue to blame whoever they feel is responsible for our "failed" transfer dealings Mouse however I don't believe that FSG think our transfer strategy has failed. 

Even with changes to the personnel involved in transfers, the policy will remain.

You make the same point as the post you comment on Debs, FSG instigate policy, FSG decide which guidelines are feasible to their model and retain those appropriate.
The façade has a purpose.
Changing faces does not alter restriction and what some consider detrimental practice affecting the manager and LFC. 

Comolli and Kenny brought in Suarez, they win!!

190 players and 800 million quid in 25 years. (according to the daily fail)

1990: Ronny Rosenthal Standard Liege £1,000,000 June 1990, Tony Cousins Dundalk £70,000 October 1990, Don Hutchison Hartlepool £175,000 November 1990.

1991: Jimmy Carter Millwall £800,000 January 1991, Jamie Redknapp Bournemouth £350,000 January 1991, David Speedie Coventry £675,000 January 1991, Mark Wright Derby £2,200,000 July 1991, Dean Saunders Derby £2,900,000 July 1991, Mark Walters Rangers £1,250,000 August 1991, Rob Jones Crewe £300,000 October 1991, Michael Thomas Arsenal £1,500,000 December 1991.

1992: Istvan Kozma Dunfermilne £300,000 February 1992, Lee Jones Wrexham £300,000 March 1992, Scott Paterson Cove Rangers £15,000 March 1992, David James Watford £1,000,000 July 1992, Paul Stewart Tottenham £2,300,000 July 1992, Torben Piechnik FC Copenhagen £500,000 September 1992, Stig Inge Bjørnebye Rosenborg £600,000 December 1992.

1993: Nigel Clough Nottingham Forest £2,275,000 June 1993, Neil Ruddock Tottenham £2,500,000 July 1993, Julian Dicks West Ham Player Exchange September 1993.

1994: Mark Gayle Crewe On Loan February 1994, Michael Stensgaard Hvidovre £400,000 June 1994, Phil Babb Coventry £3,600,000 September 1994, John Scales Wimbledon £3,500,000 September 1994.

1995: Mark Kennedy Millwall £1,500,000 March 1995, Alec Chamberlain Sunderland Loan March 1995, Stan Collymore Nottingham Forest £8,500,000 July 1995, Stephen Pears Middlesbrough Free August 1995, Jason McAteer Bolton £4,500,000 September 1995.

1996: Patrik Berger Borussia Dortmund £3,250,000 August 1996, Nicky Rizzo Sidney Olympic Free September 1996.

1997: Bjorn Tore Kvarme Free Transfer Free January 1997, Oyvind Leonhardsen Wimbledon £3,500,0002 June 1997, Paul Ince Inter Milan £4,200,000 July 1997, Danny Murphy Crewe £1,500,000 July 1997, Karl-Heinz Riedle Borussia Dortmund £1,800,000 July 1997, Jorgen Nielsen Hvidovre £400,000 August 1997, Haukur I. Gudnason Keflavik £150,000 December 1997, Brad Friedel Columbus Crew £1,000,000 December 1997.

1998: Sean Dundee Karlsruhe £1,800,000 June 1998, Steve Staunton Free Transfer July 1998, Vegard Heggem Rosenborg £3,500,000 July 1998, Jean Michel Ferri Istanbulspor £1,500,000 November 1998.

1999: Frode Kippe Lillestro £700,000 January 1999, Rigobert Song Salernitana £2,600,000 January 1999, Djimi Traore Laval £550,000 February 1999, Sami Hyypia Willem II £2,500,000 May 1999, Vladimir Smicer Lens £3,750,000 May 1999, Titi Camara Marseille £2,600,000 June 1999, Stephane Henchoz Blackburn £3,500,000 June 1999, Sander Westerveld Vitesse Arnhem £4,000,000 June 1999, Erik Meijer Free Transfer Free July 1999, Didi Hamann Newcastle £8,000,000 July 1999.

2000: Emile Heskey Leicester £11,000,000 March 2000, Bernard Diomede Auxerre £3,000,000 June 2000, Gary McAllister Free Transfer Free July 2000, Pegguy Arphexad Free Transfer July 2000, Markus Babbel Free Transfer July 2000, Nick Barmby Everton £6,000,000 July 2000, Christian Ziege Middlesbrough £5,500,000 August 2000, Gregory Vignal Montpellier £500,000 September 2000, Daniel Sjolund West Ham £1,000,000 November 2000, Igor Biscan Dynamo Zagreb £5,500,000 December 2000.

2001: Jari Litmanen Barcelona Free January 2001, John Arne Riise Monaco £4,000,000 June 2001, Milan Baros Banik Ostrav £3,200,000 July 2001, Chris Kirkland Coventry £6,000,000 August 2001, Jerzy Dudek Feyenoord £4,850,000 August 2001, Nicolas Anelka Paris St Germain On Loan December 2001.

2002: Abel Xavier Everton £750,000 January 2002, Bruno Cheyrou Lille £3,700,000 May 2002, El Hadji Diouf Lens £10,000,000 June 2002, Alou Diarra Bayern Munich Free July 2002, Patrice Luzi Free Transfer July 2002, Salif Diao Sedan £4,700,000 August 2002.

2003: Anthony Le Tallec Le Havre £1,500,000 July 2003, Florent Sinama-Pongolle Le Havre £1,500,000 July 2003, Steve Finnan Fulham £3,500,000 July 2003, Harry Kewell Leeds £5,000,000 July 2003, Carl Medjani Saint-Étienne Free August 2003.

2004: Paul Jones Southampton On Loan January 2004, Djibril Cissé Auxerre £14,500,000 July 2004, Josemi Rey Malaga £2,000,000 July 2004, Antonio Nunez Real Madrid £1,500,000 August 2004, Xabi Alonso Real Sociedad £10,700,000 August 2004, Luis Garcia Barcelona £6,000,000 August 2004.

2005: Mauricio Pellegrino Valencia Free January 2005, Fernando Morientes Real Madrid £6,300,000 January 2005, Scott Carson Leeds £1,000,000 January 2005, Bolo Zenden Free Transfer July 2005, Pepe Reina Villareal £6,000,000 July 2005, Antonio Barragan Sevilla £240,000 July 2005, Momo Sissoko Valencia £5,600,000 July 2005, Peter Crouch Southampton £7,000,000 July 2005, Miki Roque Lleida Unknown August 2005, Godwin Antwi Real Zaragoza Unknown August 2005, Jack Hobbs Lincoln £750,000 August 2005, Besian Idrizaj LASK Linz £190,000 August 2005, Mark Gonzalez Albacete £1,500,000 October 2005.

2006: Paul Anderson Hull Player Exchange January 2006, Jan Kromkamp Villareal Player Exchange January 2006, David Martin MK Dons £250,000 January 2006, Daniel Agger Brondby £5,800,000 January 2006, Robbie Fowler Manchester City Free January 2006, Craig Bellamy Blackburn £6,000,000 July 2006, Gabriel Paletta Club Atletico Banfield £2,000,000 July 2006, Fabio Aurelio Free Transfer July 2006, Jermaine Pennant Birmingham £6,700,000 July 2006, Dirk Kuyt Feyenoord £9,000,000 August 2006, Nabil El Zhar Saint-Etienne £200,000 August 2006.

2007: Astrit Ajdarevic Falkenberg £750,000 January 2007, Daniele Padelli Sampdoria On Loan January 2007, Jordy Brouwer Ajax Undisclosed January 2007, Francisco Durán Malaga £66,000 January 2007, Álvaro Arbeloa Deportivo La Coruna £2,500,000 January 2007, Lucas Leiva Gremio £5,000,000 May 2007, Krisztian Németh MTK Hungaria Undisclosed May 2007, Mikel Domínguez Athletic Bilbao £270,000 June 2007, Sebastian Leto Club Atletico Lanus £1,800,000 July 2007, Fernando Torres Atletico Madrid £20,200,000 July 2007, Andriy Voronin Free Transfer July 2007, Yossi Benayoun West Ham £5,000,000 July 2007, Ryan Babel Ajax £11,500,000 July 2007, Damien Plessis Lyon Undisclosed July 2007, Dani Pacheco Barcelona Undisclosed July 2007, David Amoo Millwall Unknown July 2007, Charles Itandje Lens Undisclosed August 2007, Emiliano Insua Boca Juniors £1,675,000 August 2007, Lauri Dalla Valle JIPPO £600,000 November 2007.

2008: Martin Skrtel Zenit Saint Petersburg £6,500,000 January 2008, Javier Mascherano GSA & MSL £18,600,000 February 2008, Philipp Degen Free Transfer July 2008, Andrea Dossena Udinese £7,000,000 July 2008, Diego Cavalieri Palmeiras £3,500,000 July 2008, David N'Gog Paris St Germain £1,500,000 July 2008, Robbie Keane Tottenham £19,000,000 July 2008, Albert Riera Espanyol £8,000,000 August 2008, Peter Gulacsi MTK Hungaria Unknown August 2008.

2009: Glen Johnson Portsmouth £17,500,000 June 2009, Alberto Aquilani Roma £17,100,000 August 2009, Sotirios Kyrgiakos AEK Athens £2,000,000 August 2009, Daniel Ayala Sevilla £160,000 September 2009.

2010: Maxi Rodriguez Atletico Madrid Free January 2010, Raheem Sterling QPR £500,000 February 2010, Jonjo Shelvey Charlton £1,700,000 May 2010, Milan Jovanovic Standard Liege Free July 2010, Joe Cole Free Transfer Free July 2010, Danny Wilson Rangers £2,000,000 July 2010, Fábio Aurelio Free Transfer July 2010, Christian Poulsen Juventus £4,550,000 August 2010, Brad Jones Middlesbrough £2,300,000 August 2010, Raul Meireles Porto £11,500,000 August 2010, Paul Konchesky Fulham £3,500,000 August 2010, Suso Cadiz Unknown August 2010.

2011: Luis Suarez Ajax £22,800,000 January 2011, Andy Carroll Newcastle £35,000,000 January 2011, Jordan Henderson Sunderland £16,000,000 June 2011, Charlie Adam Blackpool £6,750,000 July 2011, Alexander Doni Roma Free July 2011, Stewart Downing Aston Villa £18,500,000 July 2011, Jose Enrique Newcastle £6,000,000 August 2011, Sebastian Coates Nacional £4,900,000 August 2011, Craig Bellamy Manchester City Free August 2011, Jordon Ibe Wycombe £500,000 December 2011.

2012: Joao Carlos Teixeira Sporting Lisbon £830,000 January 2012, Fabio Borini Roma £10,400,000 July 2012, Joe Allen Swansea City £15,000,000 August 2012, Oussama Assaidi Heerenveen £3,000,000 August 2012, Nuri Sahin Real Madrid On Loan August 2012, Samed Yesil Bayer Leverkusen £1,000,000 August 2012.

2013: Daniel Sturridge Chelsea £12,000,000 January 2013, Philippe Coutinho Inter Milan £8,500,000 January 2013, Luis Alberto Sevilla £6,800,000 June 2013, Iago Aspas Celta Vigo £7,000,000 June 2013, Simon Mignolet Sunderland £9,000,000 June 2013, Kolo Toure Free Transfer July 2013, Aly Cissokho Valencia On Loan August 2013, Mamadou Sakho Paris St Germain £15,000,000 September 2013, Tiago Ilori Sporting Lisbon £7,000,000 September 2013, Victor Moses Chelsea On Loan September 2013.

2014: Rickie Lambert Southampton £4,500,000 June 2014, Adam Lallana Southampton £25,000,000 July 2014, Emre Can Bayer Leverkusen £9,750,000 July 2014, Lazar Markovic Benfica £19,800,000 July 2014, Dejan Lovren Southampton £20,000,000 July 2014, Divick Origi Lille £9,800,000 July 2014, Javier Manquillo Atletico Madrid On Loan August 2014, Alberto Moreno Sevilla £12,000,000 August 2014, Mario Balotelli AC Milan £16,000,000 August 2014.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3058868/Liverpool-190-signings-spent-800m-25-year-wait-19th-league-title-John-Aldridge-blames-transfer-market-failings-barren-spell.html

You make the same point as the post you comment on Debs, FSG instigate policy, FSG decide which guidelines are feasible to their model and retain those appropriate.
The façade has a purpose.
Changing faces does not alter restriction and what some consider detrimental practice affecting the manager and LFC. 

The point I keep trying to make with our transfers though is that FSG don't think it's failed as a whole.  Yes we could have probably got better quality or more suitable players for how we play but as far as the money spent I don't think they feel it's been wasted or could have been better spent which is the main problem fans have.

We're still going to see large fees spent on young potential, whether they're of use to us or not.

2009: Glen Johnson Portsmouth £17,500,000 June 2009, Alberto Aquilani Roma £17,100,000 August 2009, Sotirios Kyrgiakos AEK Athens £2,000,000 August 2009, Daniel Ayala Sevilla £160,000 September 2009.

I remember this. Knocked out of CL quarters and finished 2nd in 08/09 season,  then sold Alonso, Arbeloa & Hyypia(free), you would've thought we had money to spend, but instead, the cowboys fu**ed us over even more.

Only reason we bought Johnson was because Portsmouth owed us money, only reason why we bought Aquilani was because they were happy to receive installments over 3-4 years?  And with so little money to spend, we were left with Kyrgiakos as a replacement for Hyypia.

36m spent (less if count the installments & the true price of Johnson) and 36m in sales . 2008/2009 season was just as bad, but that's for another thread someday

The point I keep trying to make with our transfers though is that FSG don't think it's failed as a whole.

And what about you debs: do you agree with them?

Even with changes to the personnel involved in transfers, the policy will remain.

Best to sack and keep sacking the managers then... With the blessing of our fans of course. 

And if that doesn't work sure there's always the next time; eh?

I'll have no part in the charade and I will gladly walk alone on this if I have to.

The point I keep trying to make with our transfers though is that FSG don't think it's failed as a whole.  Yes we could have probably got better quality or more suitable players for how we play but as far as the money spent I don't think they feel it's been wasted or could have been better spent which is the main problem fans have.

We're still going to see large fees spent on young potential, whether they're of use to us or not.

So it's one big hunch that people are basing it on then? Right.

We spent £61m + wages on Balotelli, Lallana and Lovren this past summer - would you say they fall in to the "young and full of potential" category?

I think it's clear they would prefer young players to build the team around but the suggestion from fans is that "young and full of potential" are the only criteria FSG are concerned with. That's pretty obviously not true given our transfer history this season and seasons before.

Committee must go, scouts must be booted out, DoF is my preferred system, but transfer policy is not a problem. Likewise expenditure is not a problem. Personnel in charge of bringing people in, and those people brought in, are the problem.

So it's one big hunch that people are basing it on then? Right.

We spent £61m + wages on Balotelli, Lallana and Lovren this past summer - would you say they fall in to the "young and full of potential" category?

I think it's clear they would prefer young players to build the team around but the suggestion from fans is that "young and full of potential" are the only criteria FSG are concerned with. That's pretty obviously not true given our transfer history this season and seasons before.

Committee must go, scouts must be booted out, DoF is my preferred system, but transfer policy is not a problem. Likewise expenditure is not a problem. Personnel in charge of bringing people in, and those people brought in, are the problem.

^^^ This.

And what about you debs: do you agree with them?

From an improving the 1st 11 pov, no I don't mate.

Best to sack and keep sacking the managers then... With the blessing of our fans of course. 

And if that doesn't work sure there's always the next time; eh?

I'll have no part in the charade and I will gladly walk alone on this if I have to.

But I don't want him replacing because of the transfers mate, I just don't feel he's the right person to take the next step that we need to take.

I don't think he's failed, he's done what was asked and expected of him.  Overhauled the playing squad, reduced the wage bill, qualified for the CL, got to 2 Cup semi finals, improved our league postition from previous seasons, developed our existing young players.

Am I wrong for wanting more than just what's expected?

Do I think he'll be replaced this summer?  Probably not if I'm being honest.

Will I support him if he's not?  Of course I will but I won't be defending him like I have for the last 3 seasons.

Will I be overjoyed if we go on to win stuff next season?  You bet your F***ing life I will.

Will I get loads of F***ing grief for doing so?  You bet your F***ing life I will.

Do I feel shitty for believing another Manager could do better?  I sure do.

Should I feel guilty for wanting better for my Team and my Club?  No I damn well shouldn't.

So it's one big hunch that people are basing it on then? Right.

We spent £61m + wages on Balotelli, Lallana and Lovren this past summer - would you say they fall in to the "young and full of potential" category?

I think it's clear they would prefer young players to build the team around but the suggestion from fans is that "young and full of potential" are the only criteria FSG are concerned with. That's pretty obviously not true given our transfer history this season and seasons before.

Committee must go, scouts must be booted out, DoF is my preferred system, but transfer policy is not a problem. Likewise expenditure is not a problem. Personnel in charge of bringing people in, and those people brought in, are the problem.

That's not what I said but carry on mate.

We spent £61m + wages on Balotelli, Lallana and Lovren this past summer - would you say they fall in to the "young and full of potential" category?

No mate they fall into the "value for money"... "worth a risk at the price" [remember that?] category.

Or... better still... wait for it...

"They were obviously Brendan's picks... the rest were the committee's" category. 

Personnel in charge of bringing people in, and those people brought in, are the problem.

Not forgetting the people who recruited the personnel in charge of bringing people in obviously... cause we wouldn't want to apply double standards or be hypocritical, would we?   

No mate they fall into the "value for money"... "worth a risk at the price" [remember that?] category.

Or... better still... wait for it...

"They were obviously Brendan's picks... the rest were the committee's" category. 
Not forgetting the people who recruited the personnel in charge of bringing people in obviously... cause we wouldn't want to apply double standards or be hypocritical, would we?   

But Lovren, Lallana and Lambert were Rodgers choices.

With the exception of Newcastle none of those clubs can be compared to LFC.
They all invest in the asset, they buy world class players that the American, Arabic and Russian owners do not vet but leave that job to qualified professionals - with the exception of Newcastle all of those clubs are pissing on us as we type.

Realistically speaking our American owners with their fleeting knowledge of the ins and outs of soccer transfer fees and relative worth have us on a par with the likes of Newcastle out of the teams you yourself foist on us as examples of acceptable debt management.

Remind me again who is managing our debt?

Paradoxically it could be said the manager is all that stands between LFC and a Newcastle scenario.

 

Funny how a "corporate " Hwood Balls gets banned Stuey. And another one pops up the next day. Hmm.. a case for Sherlock, I don't think..   

I wonder what he'd think if the (cough) "Lithuanian" Church was took over by corporate parasites? And the churches were sold off, and everyone was charged 70 euros to get thro the door. Perhaps he'd like to hear Jesus is replaced by Ronald McDonald?

I notice how he ducks how this corporate debt actually appeared ie it was basically remaining Hicks and Gilette PURCHASE debt.

(BTW Nice little accounting shennanigans how they took over in the October, boasted they'd reduced debt, then it wound back up at 120 odd m)

Nothing wrong with debt he says? Perhaps we should borrow his credit cards for a while and give him nothing with them. I'm sure he'd be delighted! NOT.

If LFC was going to go into ANY debt, it should have been to replace the playing squad that had been ransacked of top quality players (when Fenway took over AND afterthey sold off nearly everyone of high standing who was left).

So now the "club" has 120m debt (acc to Swiss Ramble, the same as the end of the Hicks era) yet they didn't buy any players to improve the squad. (Any shitty little net spends were done by wage cuts, or didn't even get past natural depreciation of the squad anyway).

Ofcourse they're gonna do us a "big favour" next and pay down that debt. Or rather, receive tax free profits, as any normal person would describe it..

Scam from Scamway? Wow someone's gonna tell me bears sh*t in woods next...

Time for a new slogan I think.
"Fenway: we don't need to invest money. We fix soccer brands with magic pixie dust"

But Lovren, Lallana and Lambert were Rodgers choices.

Lambert was never supposed to be a 1st option, you surely know that.

Lallana when fit has been very good, he just needs to shake the injury bug.

Lovren I'll give you, I think Brendan sees something in him that the rest of us haven't so far.