The Transfer Committee Thread

you're being very simplistic about what carroll and benteke can do. They aren't just target men. Nevertheless

i hardly think having 2 wingers either side of a striker, who could actually cross accurately and have pace, would be 'changing the system' (a system that we haven't even been successful with btw). ANY striker (sturridge, origi, ings) would benefit from having that outlet out wide on either side. We played better with sterling out wide and he was all pace! couldn't even cross.

At the time Carroll's attitude, work ethic, injuries made it an easy sale considering we were building the team around Luis and then turned around and picked up Sturridge...very good chance had Carroll been kept we never would have picked up either Studge/Coutinho and quite possibly never seen the best of Luis.

No regrets he is gone, and it looks by a quick glance that perhaps he has grown up a bit and is becoming a better player; all the best to him I am glad that he is gone.

you're being very simplistic about what carroll and benteke can do. They aren't just target men. Nevertheless

I'll be even more simplistic and say they're both F***ing sh*te.

I'll be even more simplistic and say they're both f**king sh*te.

cmon bro

At the time Carroll's attitude, work ethic, injuries made it an easy sale considering we were building the team around Luis and then turned around and picked up Sturridge...very good chance had Carroll been kept we never would have picked up either Studge/Coutinho and quite possibly never seen the best of Luis.

No regrets he is gone, and it looks by a quick glance that perhaps he has grown up a bit and is becoming a better player; all the best to him I am glad that he is gone.

I dont see why it would be a problem to have Studge, Suarez or Carroll.

We seem to be the only 'big club' where people (mostly the media) seem to have a problem with us when we  have more than 2 good strikers at a time.

Man U used to have at least 4 top quality strikers at a time. Chelsea would have 4, City have 3/4 at a time. All very different styles.

When we have 3 or more its a problem. It's not that difficult IMO.

When we had Owen , Heskey, Fowler. all the media was like 'where will fowler play?'
When we had Torres, Keane, Crouch, Gerrard it was all 'where will keane fit in?'
When we had Studge, Suarez and Carroll, we just wrote Carroll off. To me he could have been a valuable member of the squad (at the time)

In general, alls im sayin is. we keep buying these highly rated players are writing them off almost instantly cause they 'aren't our type of player'. What type of player is? We've flattered to deceive in the last 10/11 years. 'Our type of player' is a fallacy. As we can see with the likes OF Eden Hazard for example or even Origi. Confidence can play a huge factor for a player. We should support our players, We need to try to get the best out of our players instead of constantly wasting millions, and writing them off. Its not working. Why not try something else? We are literally becoming the new, old Tottenham before my very eyes.

So that's Grujic and Matip signed and Gotze, Dahoud and Zielinski targeted. The way we're carrying on it'll soon be called Das Komittee!!

So, talk on Twitter is:

Gotze and Dahoud = Klopp targets
Zielinski and Mane = Committee targets

So, talk on Twitter is:

Gotze and Dahoud = Klopp targets
Zielinski and Mane = Committee targets

I'd say all targets are down to Buvac!!

F**k you twitter

So, talk on Twitter is:

Gotze and Dahoud = Klopp targets
Zielinski and Mane = Committee targets

Whose saying this? It seems such a convenient thing to say.

The Germans are because of the German manager and the others are committee signings.

I've seen Buvac scouted Zielinski and Jürgen loved Mane from when he played against us.

The whole political thing is stupid. People using it to prove points and pick agendas.

As long as the individual shows some consistency on who he (she) 'blames' for transfers, it's all good. As we have all seen - this mixing and matching is a joke; another refuge for the F***ing hypocrite.

Either the manager is responsible for all transfers or he's not. Just make your mind up and stick to it; anything else is embarrassing.

That said: the policies, format and methodology of the transfer committee are well enough documented.

So, talk on Twitter is:

Gotze and Dahoud = Klopp targets
Zielinski and Mane = Committee targets

What a f**king surprise. Some fans have no shame.

Gonna be a long old summer...

Rodgers was responsible for Balotelli, Rodgers was responsible for Alberto Moreno, Rodgers was responsible for Luis Alberto, Rodgers was responsible for Lazar Markovic. They were signed while he was the manager, so therefore I don't give a f*** whether or not he personally went to watch them, it's HIS responsibility as HE was the manager.

Similarly, Rodgers was responsible for Sturridge, Coutinho, Firmino, Can, Sakho etc. Same reason as above. Obviously he was also responsible for Lovren, Clyne, Lallana, Gomez, Ings, Benteke etc.

The King was responsible for Andy Carroll and Charlie Adam, similarly he was responsible for signing Luis Suarez. That's the way it is, and that's the way it'll be with Jürgen too as far as I'm concerned. Nice and simple that way.


The sooner we realise as a club that we must properly back our manager and leave HIM to decide on transfer targets, as well as how much of our budget for both wages and fee he assigns to each one, the better.

Rodgers was responsible for Balotelli, Rodgers was responsible for Alberto Moreno, Rodgers was responsible for Luis Alberto, Rodgers was responsible for Lazar Markovic. They were signed while he was the manager, so therefore I don't give a f*** whether or not he personally went to watch them, it's HIS responsibility as HE was the manager.

Similarly, Rodgers was responsible for Sturridge, Coutinho, Firmino, Can, Sakho etc. Same reason as above. Obviously he was also responsible for Lovren, Clyne, Lallana, Gomez, Ings, Benteke etc.

The King was responsible for Andy Carroll and Charlie Adam, similarly he was responsible for signing Luis Suarez. That's the way it is, and that's the way it'll be with Jürgen too as far as I'm concerned. Nice and simple that way.


The sooner we realise as a club that we must properly back our manager and leave HIM to decide on transfer targets, as well as how much of our budget for both wages and fee he assigns to each one, the better.

So what, well paid scouts - whose sole job is to actually recommend decent players - aren't responsible? If we are shouldering the burden of transfers onto Brendan, then we should equally do it to the transfer committee, if not more.

That means they deserve praise for when they get it right, but more often than not they have got is spectacularly wrong.

You get what you pay for - and we hired a bunch of low league non-entities in the committee who couldn't quite believe their luck that they were given an important job at such a massive club. Still perplexed they didn't walk with Rodgers in October.

BUT I do agree with your assertion on the manager dictating what he wants. I believe the arrangement in Dortmund was that Klopp and his team listed potential targets and Zorc and co went off to scout them, and the manager made the final decision on who came out best. I think this is happening at Liverpool so far.

Prior to this, it was an unreal chain of events where Balotelli  - a player clearly not suited to Rodgers style - was ham fisted into the team by those tw*ts in the committee. Rodgers voted against the signing, the rest of them - Fallows, Hunter, Edwards  and god knows what other incomptent tw*t - decided it was a good idea. Despite the DOF model being prevalent on the continent, its rare a manager would never be so overruled on such a big decision - even the Barca managers have a huge say. When a manager is overruled, it usually ends up with the manager leaving the club - see our very own Rafa at Valencia.

It's clear though it has to take a manager of big stature to get his way - hence why the committee have been humbled into submission by Klopp, likewise with that fat c*nt Ashley at Newcastle with Rafa.

So what, well paid scouts - whose sole job is to actually recommend decent players - aren't responsible? If we are shouldering the burden of transfers onto Brendan, then we should equally do it to the transfer committee, if not more.

That means they deserve praise for when they get it right, but more often than not they have got is spectacularly wrong.

You get what you pay for - and we hired a bunch of low league non-entities in the committee who couldn't quite believe their luck that they were given an important job at such a massive club. Still perplexed they didn't walk with Rodgers in October.

No, no, no. The manager is responsible for transfers, it's as simple as that. Otherwise you never know who to blame or praise, it's all down to the manager, always has been. Benitez signed Robbie Keane, he also signed Raheem Sterling, it's been forever thus.

If the committee is recommending players the manager doesn't want, the manager should say so. It's HIS neck on the block, he takes the rap or the praise. Scouts "suggest" players, managers sign them. Simple as.

No, no, no. The manager is responsible for transfers, it's as simple as that. Otherwise you never know who to blame or praise, it's all down to the manager, always has been. Benitez signed Robbie Keane, he also signed Raheem Sterling, it's been forever thus.

If the committee is recommending players the manager doesn't want, the manager should say so. It's HIS neck on the block, he takes the rap or the praise. Scouts "suggest" players, managers sign them. Simple as.

Rafa had more control though than Brendan to be honest - it's been well reported that Rodgers was 'outvoted' for Balotelli. I get what you're saying - Brendan for example probably voted for Markovic on the recommendation of the scouts and for most of them. This was a downside perhaps of hiring a manager who had not had the continental know how - he pretty much had to rely on the scouts. Perhaps having a British manager in charge saw us have a bias towards Premier League players as they were the only ones he truly knew. But, for the continental players brought in and who have failed, it calls into question the judgement of the committee scouts does it not?

Yes, mistakes will be made, but if it gets to the stage a manager is undermined by those in the boardroom then it is going to be a recipe for disaster.

Has Klopp not been afforded more 'control' over transfers than BR had? How much influence the committee has compared to the BR era, not sure. But part of the sense of bringing in a top manager, is to give him more control, no?

REGARDLESS - the manager is the one who eventually bears the responsibility. He is the one who will have to live/die by the players signed. People look back at the players and say Rafa brought him in, or KK signed him, or he came in under BR. In the end, the MANAGER takes the credit or the fall, so they might as well fight tooth and nail to make sure they get the players they want, cause people aren't really all that interested about the complexities of a committee and who reckons who has power to do what etc.  Its BORING

You take sh*t in on YOUR shoe, nobody really wants to hear the sob story about how it's not your fault or you didn't know it was there ... they don't like the stink, they just want YOUR mess cleared up...

Time to revive this thread.

The incompetent c*nts helped usher a decent manager in Rodgers out the door with appalling signings (Rodgers not blameless of course) and now the lack of quality in many of their acquisitions are destroying this season providing us with no depth.

Jürgen gave them time to prove that the committee were spot on in their assessments, however over a year down since Klopp's appointment and plenty of their acquisitions have just continued their embarrassing displays under Jürgen.

These players were brought on the basis of potential - they were meant to provide the depth that we are currently screaming for.

It is their job to get good players - time they received their P45s.

Time to revive this thread.

The incompetent c*nts helped usher a decent manager in Rodgers out the door with appalling signings (Rodgers not blameless of course) and now the lack of quality in many of their acquisitions are destroying this season providing us with no depth.

Jürgen gave them time to prove that the committee were spot on in their assessments, however over a year down since Klopp's appointment and plenty of their acquisitions have just continued their embarrassing displays under Jürgen.

These players were brought on the basis of potential - they were meant to provide the depth that we are currently screaming for.

It is their job to get good players - time they received their P45s.

I believe Jürgen said he had first/last word on transfers from the first day he arrived here....Very easy to blame others,but the manager is the one who calls the shots, not the scouts.

Gini, Grujic, Karius, Klaven, all the managers players.

I believe Jürgen said he had first/last word on transfers from the first day he arrived here....Very easy to blame others,but the manager is the one who calls the shots, not the scouts.

Gini, Grujic, Karius, Klaven, all the managers players.

Not one of them good enough. Mario Gotze would also be a Liverpool player had Klopp got his way, where on earth would he have played?

Not one of them good enough. Mario Gotze would also be a Liverpool player had Klopp got his way, where on earth would he have played?

Err out wide?

Jesus...

Err out wide?

Jesus...

Mario no pace, false 9 Gotze out wide? Ok then.....

There is no committee, Klopp has first and last say. It's not hard.

I hope everyone remembers this week when the club tries to do the summer on the cheap and/or miss out on priority targets and pretend they'll get them in another window.

At lot of us were called names in the summer for daring to point out this squad had been left thin and this past month has exposed that.

The idea we can't find anyone to in world football is sh*te and the usual 'we tried' sh*t on Pulisic and Brandt... if only it could have been seen coming.


We needed more good players this past summer and we didn't get enough.

We needed more good players this winter and we wouldn't get them.

And we'll need more good players in the summer and I see a pattern emerging.