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      Son Of A Gun
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      Re: The Incompetent Transfer Committee Scouts Thread: GUILTY!
      Reply #69: May 25, 2015 04:03:56 pm
      But if Rodgers is targeting the likes of Ings, Milner, Delph and Balotelli.



      Like I said, Brendan hasn't helped himself on the recruitment area. Look at my previous posts and I criticise him wanting Ashley Williams over Sakho as just one example.

      I just believe that with better scouts or a top quality DOF would rectify mistakes made by Rodgers, run the rule over the type of player we need and scout far more quality players to the extent that we wouldn't be in this position.
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      Re: The Incompetent Transfer Committee Scouts Thread: GUILTY!
      Reply #70: May 25, 2015 04:28:44 pm
      Like I said, Brendan hasn't helped himself on the recruitment area. Look at my previous posts and I criticise him wanting Ashley Williams over Sakho as just one example.

      I just believe that with better scouts or a top quality DOF would rectify mistakes made by Rodgers, run the rule over the type of player we need and scout far more quality players to the extent that we wouldn't be in this position.
      Who appoints the "better scouts or a top quality DoF"?
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      Reply #71: May 25, 2015 09:52:29 pm
      This from The Anfield Index website.

      Agree with parts or disagree with parts there are some interesting points and it's worth a read.

      The Reasons for Liverpool FC’s Transfer Troubles
       
      It’s transfer window time again! The time of year when all football fans get more excited than pre-pubescent girls at a One Direction concert, preempting the latest moves in and around Europe. The buzz is palpable and tensions are high. Obscene amounts of money are exchanged; amounts that would put small countries’ economies to shame. Repulsive wages are agreed whilst club doctors awkwardly perform medicals on footballers from London to Moscow. Cheesy photos are beamed across the globe of players leaning against various walls and signs, thrusting club scarves in the air and signing ‘contracts’ that upon closer study are, scandalously, just blank pieces of paper. Yes, they really are. Fans furiously rush to have their favourite new signing’s name emblazoned on their brand new shirts. Everything is wonderful; life is grand; we’re going to win the league!

      Liverpool Transfer Trouble

      Except if you’re a Liverpool fan. For us it’s just a constant roller coaster of slow, laborious ups and sudden, sharp downs. Mostly downs. One time too many our dreams have been crushed in the cruellest of fashions, with the list of players that Liverpool almost signed growing ever longer as each transfer window passes. For the fans, hope turns to frustration quicker than Harry Redknapp can wind down his car window on transfer deadline day. In all honesty, however, this trend that Liverpool find themselves in year in year out is a worrying one. Top quality signings are imperative if the club want to find themselves back in the footballing elite. But why have Liverpool under Brendan Rodgers consistently missed out on their top transfer targets?

      Money

      It’s no secret that Liverpool do not pay the fees and wages of their rivals, Manchester City, Chelsea and Manchester United. It’s even less of a secret that world class talent doesn’t come cheap. FSG broke the bank last year when they agreed to pay Luis Suarez £200,000 a week to keep him at Anfield; a wage that not even club legend Steven Gerrard was deemed worthy of. With the likes of Radamel Falcao and Angel Di Maria joining United on rather ridiculous wage packets, things just got a hell of a lot harder for Liverpool. Transfer fees have also been a stumbling block when in pursuit of the perfect footballing acquisition. Back street style haggling has more often than not been Liverpool’s style in the transfer market; trying to knock off a few million here or there whilst another club casually snatches the player from under our noses. A very recent example of this is Mohammed Salah who ended up at Chelsea (albeit their bench) after the Reds were adamant not to meet the fee demands.

      Lack of Champions League Football

      When a team has spent five years in the wilderness of European football, the problems keep piling up. If money is an issue, then the lack of Champions League revenue only exacerbates that. Liverpool currently find themselves an unattractive proposition for potential suitors who want to play at the top level, and the Europa League just doesn’t have quite the same ring to it. Players want the big time and for clubs it doesn’t come much bigger than the Champions League. A brief return to the competition last year didn’t attract as much talent as expected, and the Reds’ swift exit did their cause absolutely no favours whatsoever. Time and again, the big three (City, Chelsea and United) have been able to poach talent away from us with the lure of big games. Names such as Diego Costa have slipped through Liverpool’s fingers due to more lucrative footballing offers from other competitors.  All in all, Liverpool have lost their pulling power and find themselves in a vicious circle; no money, no world class players, no Champions League and so it continues. The club needs to sustain top flight European football for several years continuously to be taken seriously in the transfer market.

      Brendan Rodgers

      Here’s a scenario for you. You’re one of Europe’s best (or up and coming) footballers and you have the chance to join a top Premier League club under the tutelage of either Jose Mourinho, Manuel Pellegrini, Arsene Wenger, Louis van Gaal or Brendan Rodgers. Which manager would you pick to learn or perfect your trade under? Or more importantly, win trophies with? No disrespect to Rodgers at all, but the aforementioned  four have earned the right to be above him in that pecking order due to their success. They’re all proven winners, having managed at the highest level whereas  Rodgers still has some way to go before he can claim to sit alongside them. Liverpool’s pursuit of Willian failed two years ago when the Brazilian openly admitted that his decision to choose Chelsea was because of Mourinho. He was quoted as saying, “The opportunity to play for Mourinho, the best manager in the world, also made a lot of difference.”

      Henrikh Mkhitariyan was claimed to have said that he chose Borussia Dortmund over Liverpool because he preferred their style of play. Because Rodgers has not yet proved himself as a success, regardless of his playing style, players will look elsewhere to a tried and trusted method which gets results. With the lack of a familiar face at Liverpool’s helm, they find themselves at the back of the queue when it comes to prospective employees.

      Liverpool Vs London

      From a faraway, foreign land, the city of London holds a certain charm. One of the world’s most famous and popular cities in the world, the English capital has always been an attractive destination for any person to settle in. With Chelsea and Arsenal residing in London, why would that be any different for a footballer? This certainly appeared to be the case in Alexis Sanchez’s choice to choose Arsenal over us, when both fees and wage demands were met. Liverpool is undoubtedly one of best cities in England with its unique heritage, culture and boasts some of the friendliest locals in the world, but with a rival like London lurking, it’s that much harder. Don’t misunderstand me here. If Liverpool Football Club were in their pomp, attracting players wouldn’t be an issue. The problem is that we’re not and whereas the city wouldn’t even have been a point to consider before, it now is. So when weighing up all options, the locality of the club suddenly becomes a major factor, especially with the London teams success. The remaining two clubs of Manchester’s United and City deal with that potential problem by throwing vast amounts of money at it, which puts them in pole position for many big signings too.

      The Whole Picture

      In isolation, the above points may not make much sense but when looked at holistically they make all the difference to a prospective employee. As with any job seeker, a footballer needs to consider every aspect of what offers are laid on the table for him. Money, residence, job satisfaction, potential success and ambition. Add a trustworthy face to that mix and your desirability increases tenfold. As with Liverpool Football Club, if even a few of the above options aren’t up to standard the ability to acquire world class talent diminishes fast. And this is where Brendan Rodgers and Liverpool FC find themselves right now. In that vicious circle. Until and unless the younger signings start paying off, it seems like we’re on a downward trend for the near future. Marquee signings will remain a tall order for Ian Ayre, and until then the next few transfer windows may continue to be uncomfortable and exasperating times for Reds everywhere.
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      Re: The Incompetent Transfer Committee Scouts Thread: GUILTY!
      Reply #72: May 26, 2015 10:18:18 pm
      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mike-gordon-fsg-profile-man-9336112

      James Pearce profile on the F***ing useless Mike Gordon - FSG's football 'expert'.... So that means he knows there's a ball and a net, and the team that gets the ball in the net the most is the winner.
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      Re: The Incompetent Transfer Committee Scouts Thread: GUILTY!
      Reply #73: May 26, 2015 10:19:36 pm
      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mike-gordon-fsg-profile-man-9336112

      James Pearce profile on the f**king useless Mike Gordon - FSG's football 'expert'.... So that means he knows there's a ball and a net, and the team that gets the ball in the net the most is the winner.

      More PR bullshit isn't it.

      The Echo is simply their mouthpiece now, they might as well put them on the payroll.
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      Re: The Incompetent Transfer Committee Scouts Thread: GUILTY!
      Reply #74: May 26, 2015 10:20:21 pm
      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mike-gordon-fsg-profile-man-9336112

      James Pearce profile on the f**king useless Mike Gordon - FSG's football 'expert'.... So that means he knows there's a ball and a net, and the team that gets the ball in the net the most is the winner.

      As we all expected he knows F**k all about football.

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      Reply #75: May 26, 2015 10:21:20 pm
      More PR bullshit isn't it.

      The Echo is simply their mouthpiece now, they might as well put them on the payroll.

      Pearce has lost a lot of credibility.
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      Reply #76: May 26, 2015 10:22:12 pm
      More PR bullshit isn't it.

      The Echo is simply their mouthpiece now, they might as well put them on the payroll.

      Dunno if it's PR.... they're pretty much throwing him out there to a disconcerted support base. And reading that - and heading the transfer committee - it's clear, as Hsc said, he knows F**k all about football.
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      Reply #77: May 26, 2015 10:23:35 pm
      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mike-gordon-fsg-profile-man-9336112

      James Pearce profile on the f**king useless Mike Gordon - FSG's football 'expert'.... So that means he knows there's a ball and a net, and the team that gets the ball in the net the most is the winner.

      Yep

      Only thing that confused him was that he thought it was like basketball but without a backboard

      Wondering like all of us where our goal attack is this year and why we insist on playing more wing attacks than the other netballer teams
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      Reply #78: May 26, 2015 10:26:30 pm
      Mike Gordon has about as much chance of spotting a player as Orville the duck who is now avilable due to unforseen circumstances.
      Can you imagine the old guard being introduce to Mr Gordon as a valuable member of the transfer comittee. I can hear the collective cries of "he can F**k right off"
      what the F**k is going on at this club.
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      Reply #79: May 26, 2015 10:28:05 pm
      Yep

      Only thing that confused him was that he thought it was like basketball but without a backboard

      Wondering like all of us where our goal attack is this year and why we insist on playing more wing attacks than the other netballer teams

      This is the man who has no knowledge of football, and most likely believes 4-4-2 is a sex game. He's a businessman, he has no conception of a footballing philosophy, so Rodgers has no real superior to answer to (like a Director of Football for example).

      It's time to face up to the facts. My friends, we are fu**ed!
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      Reply #80: May 26, 2015 10:31:09 pm
      This is the man who has no knowledge of football - he's a businessman. That's it.

      It's time to face up to the facts. My friends, we are fu**ed!

      ah but he is a very smart businessman that smart he is part of an group of people who dont know sh*t about anything to do with football or this club.
      Who gave him the right to make such decisions let me guess some other smart business man who knows F**k all about the club or football.
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      Reply #81: May 26, 2015 10:32:01 pm
      But he's sold popcorn

      That's kind of like football
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      Reply #82: May 26, 2015 10:32:54 pm
      ah but he is a very smart businessman that smart he is part of an group of people who dont know sh*t about anything to do with football or this club.
      Who gave him the right to make such decisions let me guess some other smart business man who knows f**k all about the club or football.


      The guys who make the decisions are across the Atlantic and are the type of people who can't tell the difference between a Johan Cruyff and a Carlton Palmer.
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      Reply #83: May 26, 2015 10:37:22 pm
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      Reply #84: May 26, 2015 10:45:46 pm
      Pearce has lost a lot of credibility.

      Agree completely.
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      Reply #85: May 26, 2015 10:52:31 pm
      More PR bullshit isn't it.

      The Echo is simply their mouthpiece now, they might as well put them on the payroll.
      I used to read it every morning but it soon became clear that they're a bunch of Mancs printing from mancland and expecting Scousers to digest their drivel.

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      Reply #86: May 27, 2015 12:34:47 am
      Ah well folks, save your rage, don't use it all up.

      We won't have any energy to expend when we sign Benteke for THIRTY f***in MILLION SMACKAROOS!
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      Reply #87: May 27, 2015 12:36:06 am
      I'm even gagging at the thought of wasting £20 million, let alone thirty.
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      Re: The Incompetent Transfer Committee Scouts Thread: GUILTY!
      Reply #88: May 27, 2015 09:30:50 am
      Going to be a great 'review' of the transfer committee and Brendan when it's being done by Mike Gordon who's, erm, on the transfer committee himself.
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      Reply #89: May 27, 2015 11:19:26 am
      I'm even gagging at the thought of wasting £20 million, let alone thirty.

      will we ever learn.... :f_wah:
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      Reply #90: May 27, 2015 11:37:00 am
      Club look like they have learnt nothing from last year if the transfer speculation turns out correct.
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      Reply #91: May 27, 2015 11:37:48 am
      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mike-gordon-fsg-profile-man-9336112

      James Pearce profile on the f**king useless Mike Gordon - FSG's football 'expert'.... So that means he knows there's a ball and a net, and the team that gets the ball in the net the most is the winner.
      He's a Fund Manager. Damn it. Then he should be doing the following:

      1) Encash Raheem for £30m or more because at that price, Raheem's stock is overvalued. His recent performance may be £30m at best. I say at best.
      2) Sell Kolo. His cost is almost free. Do it now and get some money back, or suffer opportunity cost.
      3) Bring in James Milner for free then move him on next season for £4m. Simple arbitrage in investment terms.
      4) How about Danny Ings? Arbitrage opportunity as well.
      5) Move Cou next year when his stock price rises.
      6) And Ibe as well the year after.
      7) Bring in Harry Redknapp, because he does make money from trading players. Low wage but highly incentivised on trading profit.

      OMG. Players are becoming like a stock portfolio.

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