Brendan Rodgers VS Rafael Benitez Transfer Spend

Seen this brought up a few times in different threads, so thought i'd put it down in black and white in one thread to discuss.

I'll start with Rodgers first.

The summer of 2012.

Transfers in.

Fabio Borini    Roma    £10,400,000    13 July 2012
Joe Allen    Swansea    £15,000,000    10 August 2012
Oussama Assaidi    Heerenveen    £2,400,000    17 August 2012
Nuri Sahin    Real Madrid    Loan    25 August 2012
Samed Yesil    Bayer Leverkusen    £1,000,000    30 August 2012

Transfers out

Fabio Aurelio    Gremio    Free    1 June 2012
David Amoo    Preston North End    Free    1 June 2012
Stephen Darby    Bradford    Free    2 June 2012
Dirk Kuyt    Fenerbahce    £800,000    3 June 2012
Maxi Rodriguez    Newell's Old Boys    Free    13 July 2012
Alberto Aquilani    Fiorentina    Undisclosed    2 August 2012
Craig Bellamy    Cardiff    Free    10 August 2012
Andy Carroll    West Ham    Loan    30 August 2012
Jay Spearing    Bolton    Loan    31 August 2012
Charlie Adam    Stoke    £5,000,000    31 August 2012
Nathan Eccleston    Blackpool    Undisclosed    31 August 2012

January 2013 transfer window.

Transfers in.

Daniel Sturridge    Chelsea    £12,000,000    2 January 2013
Philippe Coutinho    Inter Milan    £8,600,000    30 January 2013

Transfers out.

Joe Cole    West Ham    Free    4 January 2013
Nuri Sahin    Real Madrid    Loan terminated    11 January 2013
Dani Pacheco    SD Huesca    Loan    31 January 2013
Alexander Doni    Botafogo SP    Free    31 January 2013

Summer 2013

Transfers in.

Luis Alberto    Sevilla    £6,800,000    22 June 2013
Iago Aspas    Celta Vigo    £7,500,000    23 June 2013
Simon Mignolet    Sunderland    £10,000,000    25 June 2013
Kolo Toure    Man City    Free    2 July 2013
Aly Cissokho    Valencia    Loan    20 August 2013
Tiago Ilori    Sporting CP    £7,000,000    2 September 2013
Mamadou Sakho    PSG    £15,000,000    2 September 2013
Victor Moses    Chelsea    Loan    2 September 2013

Transfers out.

Andy Carroll    West Ham    £15,500,000    19 June 2013
Jonjo Shelvey    Swansea City    £6,000,000    3 July 2013
Suso    Almeria    Loan    12 July 2013
Conor Coady    Sheffield United    Loan    22 July 2013
Pepe Reina    Napoli    Loan    29 July 2013
Jay Spearing    Bolton    £1,750,000    9 August 2013
Stewart Downing    West Ham    £6,000,000    13 August 2013
Oussama Assaidi    Stoke City    Loan    27 August 2013
Dani Pacheco    AD Alcorcon    Free    2 September 2013
Fabio Borini    Sunderland    Loan    2 September 2013
Andre Wisdom    Derby County    Loan    22 October 2013
Adam Morgan    Yeovil    Loan    28 November 2013

January transfer window 2014.

Transfers out.

Adam Morgan    Yeovil    Undisclosed    3 January 2014

Summer 2014

Transfers in.

Rickie Lambert    Southampton    £4,500,000    2 June 2014
Adam Lallana    Southampton    £25,000,000    1 July 2014
Emre Can    Bayer Leverkusen    £9,750,000    3 July 2014
Lazar Markovic    Benfica    £19,800,000    15 July 2014
Dejan Lovren    Southampton    £20,000,000    27 July 2014
Divock Origi    Lille    £10,000,000    29 July 2014
Javier Manquillo    Atletico Madrid    Loan    6 August 2014
Alberto Moreno    Sevilla    £12,000,000    16 August 2014
Mario Balotelli    AC Milan    £16,000,000    25 August 2014

Transfers out.

Stephen Sama    Released    Free    1 June 2014
Luis Alberto    Malaga    Loan    25 June 2014
Luis Suarez    Barcelona    £75,000,000    16 July 2014
Iago Aspas    Sevilla    Loan    21 July 2014
Andre Wisdom    West Brom    Loan    22 July 2014
Divock Origi    Lille    Loan    29 July 2014
Conor Coady    Huddersfield    £500,000    6 August 2014
Brad Smith    Swindon    Loan    7 August 2014
Pepe Reina    Bayern Munich    £2,000,000    8 August 2014
Martin Kelly    Crystal Palace    £1,500,000    14 August 2014
Joao Carlos Teixeira    Brighton    Loan    15 August 2014
Tiago Ilori    Bordeaux    Loan    18 August 2014
Kristoffer Peterson    Utrecht    Undisclosed    27 August 2014
Jack Robinson    QPR    £1,000,000    28 August 2014
Jordon Ibe    Derby    Loan    29 August 2014
Daniel Agger    Brondby    £3,000,000    30 August 2014
Sebastian Coates    Sunderland    Loan    1 September 2014
Oussama Assaidi    Stoke    Loan    1 September 2014
Krisztian Adorjan    Novara    Undisclosed    1 September 2014

January 2015 transfer window.

Transfers out.

Oussama Assaidi    Al-Ahli Dubai    £4,700,000    12 January 2015
Suso    AC Milan    Nominal    17 January 2015

Summer 2015

Transfers in.

Joe Gomez    Charlton    £3,500,000    20 June 2015
Roberto Firmino    Hoffenheim    £29,000,000    24 June 2015
Adam Bogdan    Bolton    Free    1 July 2015
Nathaniel Clyne    Southampton    £12,500,000    1 July 2015
James Milner    Man City    Free    6 July 2015
Danny Ings    Burnley    Tribunal fee    8 July 2015
Christian Benteke    Aston Villa    £32,500,000    22 July 2015

Transfers out.

Danny Ward    Aberdeen    Loan    26 June 2015
Brad Jones    Released    Free    1 July 2015
Glen Johnson    Stoke    Free    1 July 2015
Steven Gerrard    LA Galaxy    Free    1 July 2015
Iago Aspas    Sevilla    £5,000,000    1 July 2015
Sebastian Coates    Sunderland    £4,000,000    1 July 2015
Luis Alberto    Deportivo    Loan    5 July 2015
Javier Manquillo    Atletico Madrid    Loan terminated    7 July 2015
Jordan Williams    Swindon    Loan    10 July 2015
Lloyd Jones    Blackpool    Loan    10 July 2015
Kevin Stewart    Swindon    Loan    11 July 2015
Raheem Sterling    Man City    £49,000,000    14 July 2015
Andre Wisdom    Norwich    Loan    29 July 2015
Rickie Lambert    West Brom    £3,000,000    31 July 2015
Lawrence Vigouroux    Swindon    Loan    4 August 2015
Sheyi Ojo    Wolves    Loan    4 August 2015
Mario Balotelli    AC Milan    Loan    25 August 2015
Harry Wilson    Crewe    Loan    26 August 2015
Joe Maguire    Leyton Orient    Loan    28 August 2015
Lazar Markovic    Fenerbahce    Loan    30 August 2015

TOTAL BOUGHT: £289,050,000
TOTAL SOLD: £184,700,000
TOTAL NET SPEND: 104,350,000

Well Add on two years at £25m net over two seasons to bring Rodgers in line with the 6 season tenure of Benitez giving Rodgers a

TOTAL NET SPEND: 154,350,000

Rafael Benitez

Summer 2004

Transfers in.

Josemi    Malaga    £2,000,000    26 July 2004
Antonio Nunez    Real Madrid    £1,500,000    17 August 2004
Xabi Alonso    Real Sociedad    £10,700,000    20 August 2004
Luis Garcia    Barcelona    £6,000,000    20 August 2004

Transfers out

Markus Babbel    Stuttgart    Free    16 July 2004
Danny Murphy    Charlton    £2,500,000    10 August 2004
Michael Owen    Real Madrid    £8,500,000    14 August 2004

January 2005 Transfer window

Transfers in

Mauricio Pellegrino    Valencia    Free    5 January 2005
Fernando Morientes    Real Madrid    £6,300,000    13 January 2005
Scott Carson    Leeds    £1,000,000    21 January 2005

Transfers out

Stephane Henchoz    Celtic    Free    28 January 2005

Summer 2005

Transfers in

Boudewijn Zenden    Free Transfer    Free    4 July 2005
Pepe Reina    Villarreal    £6,000,000    4 July 2005
Antonio Barragan    Sevilla    £240,000    4 July 2005
Momo Sissoko    Valencia    £5,600,000    14 July 2005
Peter Crouch    Southampton    £7,000,000    20 July 2005
Miki Roque    Lleidav    Unknown    15 August 2005
Jack Hobbs    Lincoln    £150,000    18 August 2005
Besian Idrizaj    LASK Linz    £190,000    22 August 2005
Mark Gonzalez    Albacete    £1,500,000    20 October 2005

Transfers out

Vladimir Smicer    Bordeaux    Free    13 June 2005
El Hadji Diouf    Bolton    £3,500,000    15 June 2005
Mauricio Pellegrino    Alaves    Free    17 June 2005
Alou Diarra    Lens    £2,000,000    23 June 2005
Igor Biscan    Panathinaikos    Free    1 July 2005
Jon Otsemobor    Rotherham    Free    1 July 2005
Mark Smyth    —    Released    1 July 2005
Paul Harrison    —    Released    1 July 2005
Richie Partridge    —    Released    1 July 2005
Patrice Luzi    —    Released    1 July 2005
Gregory Vignal    Portsmouth    Free    1 July 2005
Antonio Nunez    Celta Vigo    £2,000,000    29 July 2005
Milan Baros    Aston Villa    £6,500,000    23 August 2005

January 2006 Transfer Window

Transfers in

Paul Anderson    Hull    Swap    1 January 2006
Jan Kromkamp    Villarreal    Swap    4 January 2006
David Martin    MK Dons    £250,000    12 January 2006
Daniel Agger    Brondby    £5,800,000    12 January 2006
Robbie Fowler    Man City    Free    27 January 2006

Transfers out

John Welsh    Hull    Swap    1 January 2006
Josemi    Villarreal    Swap    2 January 2006

Summer 2006 Transfer Window

Transfers in

Craig Bellamy    Blackburn    £6,000,000    1 July 2006
Gabriel Paletta    Banfield    £2,000,000    4 July 2006
Fabio Aurelio    Valencia    Free    5 July 2006
Jermaine Pennant    Birmingham    £6,700,000    26 July 2006
Dirk Kuyt    Feyenoord    £9,000,000    18 August 2006
Nabil El Zhar    St Etienne    £200,000    21 August 2006

Transfers out

Zak Whitbread    Millwall    £200,000    13 June 2006
Bruno Cheyrou    Rennes    Undisclosed    29 June 2006
Robbie Foy    —    Released    1 July 2006
David Raven    Carlisle    Undisclosed    3 July 2006
Fernando Morientes    Valencia    £3,000,000    5 July 2006
Dietmar Hamann    Bolton    Free    11 July 2006
Antonio Barragan    Deportivo    £675,000    3 August 2006
Djimi Traore    Charlton    £2,000,000    9 August 2006
Carl Medjani    Lorient    Free    12 August 2006
Neil Mellor    Preston    £500,000    30 August 2006
Jan Kromkamp    PSV    £1,750,000    31 August 2006

January 2007 Transfer Window

Transfers in

Astrit Ajdarevic    Falkenberg    £750,000    11 January 2007
Daniele Padelli    Sampdoria    Loan    12 January 2007
Jordy Brouwer    Ajax    Undisclosed    24 January 2007
Francisco Manuel Duran    Malaga    £66,000    30 January 2007
Alvaro Arbeloa    Deportivo    £2,500,000    31 January 2007
Javier Mascherano    West Ham    Loan    20 February 2007

Transfers Out

Darren Potter    Wolves    £525,000    18 January 2007
Stephen Warnock    Blackburn    £1,500,000    22 January 2007
Salif Diao    Stoke    Free    25 January 2007

Summer 2007 Transfer Window

Transfers in

Lucas    Gremio    £5,000,000    11 May 2007
Krisztian Nemeth    MTK Hungaria    Undisclosed    25 May 2007
Mikel San Jose    Athletic Bilbao    £270,000    28 June 2007
Sebastian Leto    Lanús    £1,800,000    1 July 2007
Fernando Torres    Atletico Madrid    £20,200,000    4 July 2007
Andriy Voronin    Leverkusen    Free    6 July 2007
Yossi Benayoun    West Ham    £5,000,000    12 July 2007
Ryan Babel    Ajax    £11,500,000    13 July 2007
Charles Itandje    Lens    Undisclosed    9 August 2007
Emiliano Insua    Boca Juniors    £1,300,000    26 August 2007
Lauri Dalla Valle    JIPPO    £600,000    8 November 2007

Transfers Out

Florent Sinama-Pongolle    Recreativo    £2,700,000    4 May 2007
Daniele Padelli    Sampdoria    Loan expires    8 June 2007
Danny O'Donnell    Crewe    £100,000    13 June 2007
Boudewijn Zenden    Marseille    Free    1 July 2007
Jerzy Dudek    Real Madrid    Free    1 July 2007
Robbie Fowler    Cardiff    Free    1 July 2007
Luis Garcia    Atletico Madrid    £4,000,000    3 July 2007
Djibril Cisse    Marseille    £6,000,000    9 July 2007
Craig Bellamy    West Ham    £7,500,000    10 July 2007
Mark Gonzalez    Real Betis    £3,500,000    17 July 2007
Gabriel Paletta    Boca Juniors    £1,200,000    26 August 2007
Chris Kirkland    Wigan    £3,500,000    27 October 2007

January Transfer Window 2008

Transfers in

Martin Skrtel    Zenit St Petersburg    £6,500,000    11 January 2008
Javier Mascherano    Media Sports Investment    £18,600,000    29 February 2008

Transfers Out

James Smith    Stockport    Free    28 December 2007
Momo Sissoko    Juventus    £8,200,000    28 January 2008
Lee Peltier    Yeovil    Free    31 January 2008

Summer 2008 Transfer Window

Transfers in

Philipp Degen    Borussia Dortmund    Free    3 July 2008
Andrea Dossena    Udinese    £7,000,000    4 July 2008
Diego Cavalieri    Palmeiras    £3,500,000    11 July 2008
David N'Gog    Paris St Germain    £1,500,000    24 July 2008
Robbie Keane    Tottenham    £19,000,000    28 July 2008
Albert Riera    Espanyol    £8,000,000    31 August 2008

Transfers Out

John Arne Riise    Roma    £4,000,000    1 July 2008
Harry Kewell    Free Transfer    Free    1 July 2008
Anthony Le Tallec    Le Mans    Undisclosed    2 July 2008
Peter Crouch    Portsmouth    £11,000,000    11 July 2008
Danny Guthrie    Newcastle    £2,250,000    14 July 2008
Scott Carson    West Brom    £3,250,000    18 July 2008
Steve Finnan    Espanyol    Undisclosed    31 August 2008

January 2009 Transfer Window

Transfers out

Robbie Keane    Tottenham    £16,000,000    2 February 2009

Summer 2009 Transfers Window

Transfers in.

Glen Johnson    Portsmouth    £17,500,000    26 June 2009
Alberto Aquilani    Roma    £17,100,000    7 August 2009
Sotirios Kyrgiakos    AEK Athens    £2,000,000    21 August 2009
Daniel Ayala    Sevilla    £160,000    17 September 2009

Transfers Out.

Jack Hobbs    Leicester    Undisclosed    24 April 2009
Sami Hyypia    Free Transfer    Free    1 June 2009
Astrit Ajdarevic    Leicester    Free    30 June 2009
Paul Anderson    Nottingham Forest    £250,000    30 June 2009
Sebastian Leto    Panathinaikos    £3,000,000    1 July 2009
Jermaine Pennant    Real Zaragoza    Free    1 July 2009
Miki Roque    Unknown    Free    1 July 2009
Alvaro Arbeloa    Real Madrid    £3,500,000    30 July 2009
Xabi Alonso    Real Madrid    £30,000,000    5 August 2009

January 2010 Transfer Window

Transfers in.

Maxi Rodriguez    Atletico Madrid    Free    12 January 2010
Raheem Sterling    Queens Park Rangers    £600,000    27 February 2010

Transfers Out.

Andrea Dossena    Napoli    £4,700,000    8 January 2010
Andriy Voronin    Dinamo Moscow    £1,800,000    10 January 2010
Nikolay Mihaylov    Twente    £1,500,000    4 February 2010

Summer 2010 Transfer Window

Transfers In.

Jonjo Shelvey    Charlton    £1,700,000    10 May 2010
Milan Jovanovic    Standard Liege    Free    8 July 2010

Transfers Out

Mikel San Jose    Athletic Bilbao    £2,600,000    19 May 2010
Fabio Aurelio    —    Released    1 July 2010
David Martin    MK Dons    Free    1 July 2010
Yossi Benayoun    Chelsea    £6,000,000    2 July 2010


TOTAL BOUGHT: £229,340,000
TOTAL SOLD: £151,000,000.
TOTAL NET SPEND: £78,340,000.

We'll double Rafael Benitez's spend to factor in inflation of TV deals etc, giving Benitez a

TOTAL NET SPEND: £156,680,000.

Edited: to factor in years of tenure and inflation.

Thanks for putting the work in for this but the problem is that it doesn't tell you the squad value - only a snapshot at the time the player was sold.

For example, Rafa spent 5 million on "his" account buying Sterling who proves to be an incredible buy - when he is sold for 50 million the 45m difference is used to make Rodger's figures better rather than Rafa's.

What would Rafa's net spend be if he had sold Torres, Masch, Agger and Reina the day before he left?

What would Rafa's net spend be if he had sold Torres, Masch, Agger and Reina the day before he left?

It would be in the Minus no doubt, but then again Rafa's spend is helped along by Houlliers Purchases that he sold, not to the degree that Rodgers has been helped along by the sale of Sterling and Suarez two players he inherited.

One thing you can take from the spend of both Managers, is that within 4 seasons Rafa had us as the one of the most feared teams in Europe, obviously at the time Rafa only really had Arsenal, Chelsea and United to compete with for top 4, City came along towards the end of his tenure, but you could argue that United have gotten considerably weaker in the period Rodgers has been Manager.

It would be in the Minus no doubt, but then again Rafa's spend is helped along by Houlliers Purchases that he sold, not to the degree that Rodgers has been helped along by the sale of Sterling and Suarez two players he inherited.

Exactly - that's why totting up simple transfers in/out is so limited in terms of analysis.

Plus there's the question of factoring in inflation from TV deal money etc.

Paul Tomkins has done a lot of work in this area to come up with comparative transfer spends - it becomes quite complicated if you look at it seriously.

Exactly - that's why totting up simple transfers in/out is so limited in terms of analysis.

Plus there's the question of factoring in inflation from TV deal money etc.

Paul Tomkins has done a lot of work in this area to come up with comparative transfer spends - it becomes quite complicated if you look at it seriously.

I don't doubt what you are saying, was just putting the figures as people had brought it up in a few threads.

You can still work out roughly the inflation to give you an idea of the impact the certain player had on the squad and if the money was a good investment.

Say for example your £9m Dirk Kuyt is your modern day £20m Markovic., Your £5.8m Agger is your £15m Sakho etc

Suarez was a strong Rafa target we were on the verge of signing (Rafa's first job for Kenny when he brought him back to the club was to ask him to provide additional scouting reports on Suarez)

Sterling was a Rafa buy for the future who was a spectacular success.

Coutinho - who Rafa called "the future of the club" when he was managing Inter was recommended to LFC by Rafa.

Sturridge was sold to us by Rafa when he was managing Chelsea even though Brendan was trying to scupper the deal to bring in Clint Dempsey.

Transfer spends are only half the story - and they don't even include wages which often end up costing more than the transfer fee.

So yes - thanks for putting up the figures - I just wanted to point out to people that the reality is even stronger in Rafa's favour in terms of his dealings for the club.

It would be interesting to compare how many players bought and sold by each manager actually saw an increase in their value - I'm struggling to think of many of Brendan's signings that would.

Say for example your £9m Dirk Kuyt is your modern day £20m Markovic.

Oh for a modern day Dirk Kuyt - as much for character as performance.

Say for example your £9m Dirk Kuyt is your modern day £20m Markovic., Your £5.8m Agger is your £15m Sakho etc

Very interesting thread  - however I would say two points:

Rafa is a lot better manager than Rogers
Kuyt is a lot better then Lazar

You can talk about Houllier and his squad helping sales values and the sh*te hawk yanks we have had owning the club under his tenure. But the fact remains, he is managing Real Madrid now and is miles better than Rogers.

If he was here today I doubt we would all be at the very bitter end of a 0-3 result against West Ham.

I don't doubt what you are saying, was just putting the figures as people had brought it up in a few threads.

You can still work out roughly the inflation to give you an idea of the impact the certain player had on the squad and if the money was a good investment.

Say for example your £9m Dirk Kuyt is your modern day £20m Markovic., Your £5.8m Agger is your £15m Sakho etc

Yep you could but again it's more complicated - that gives you the value of monetary inflation but not the inflation related to spending power.

For example, now that even the like of Bournemouth are getting tens of millions through the improved TV deal, what is their relative spending power to us?

Maybe only five clubs could have afforded a Dirk Kuyt at the time we bought him whereas maybe ten clubs could do the same now as foreign clubs haven't had the same uplift in TV money.

That means our relative spending power has gone down domestically even though we have more money to spend.

Very interesting thread  - however I would say two points:

Rafa is a lot better manager than Rogers
Kuyt is a lot better then Lazar

You can talk about Houllier and his squad helping sales values and the sh*te hawk yanks we have had owning the club under his tenure. But the fact remains, he is managing Real Madrid now and is miles better than Rogers.

If he was here today I doubt we would all be at the very bitter end of a 0-3 result against West Ham.

Rodgers.

Paul Tomkins has done a lot of work in this area to come up with comparative transfer spends - it becomes quite complicated if you look at it seriously.

It does indeed and he has done some fantastic work (Tomkins).

The problem with squad value is that until it becomes fact (sold) it's far too subjective. I do believe that most would admit Brendan has inherited a tremendous advantage in terms of saleable assets. Suarez and Sterling are near as damn it the two most expensive sales we've managed, how it works out when inflation is factored in I'm not sure but they wont be too far away from being 1 and 3 would be my guess.

So not only has he had FSG's restricted investment but he's had a serious advantage over previous managers with what he's had to spend. We can argue net spends all day long, Kenny was bemoaned terribly for his transfers but actually made the club money, the way Brendan is going I would find it difficult to believe we've had anyone worse.

Suarez was a strong Rafa target we were on the verge of signing (Rafa's first job for Kenny when he brought him back to the club was to ask him to provide additional scouting reports on Suarez)

If I remember rightly it was Segura who heavily scouted Suarez and recommended him, same as he recommended Raul Meireles to Roy Hodgson.

Kuyt is a lot better then Lazar

It was factoring in inflation, not their talent, £9m in 2006 is probably roughly around the £20m mark in 2015 in terms of how transfer fee's have been inflated.

I'm not sure you can do a true comparison due to inflation etc but also I believe the brief for both Managers has been completely different.  Rafa was building a squad to compete at the very highest level whereas Brendan has had to reduce the wage bill and lower the age bracket, at the same time as trying to compete. 

It was always a longer term project for Brendan but it seems that in having a longer plan, we've lost sight of the end goal as nobody knows what time frame to put on developing a very young squad.  We have some very good young players, some excellent ones and some that we're still unsure about.  We've spent so much money on buying all and any young talent with no real plan on when, how or if they'll eventually strengthen the squad and because we're now in a situation where fans are losing patience/have lost patience, we might never even get to see some of them flourish.

At some stage the focus of the plan has to change if we're ever to be successful again, let's hope those at the top realise that winning is the best way to bring them the success they crave for their investment.

I think the best way to give it an honest assessment is to double Rafa's net spend to £156,680,00 to factor in inflation brought about by TV money etc and compare it to Rodgers £104,350,000.

Now Consider Rafa had another two years tenure on Rodgers, so say £25m net for two seasons on Rodgers tally would bring it to 154,350,000 which is very, very close to Rafa's figures.

I'm not sure you can do a true comparison due to inflation

As a few have said Debs Tompkins work on the value of players taking into account 'football inflation' makes it a lot easier to do.

If we used that I would think Rafa's figures in Blood's OP would be a lot higher.

As a few have said Debs Tompkins work on the value of players taking into account 'football inflation' makes it a lot easier to do.

If we used that I would think Rafa's figures in Blood's OP would be a lot higher.

I think the best way to give it an honest assessment is to double Rafa's net spend to £156,680,00 to factor in inflation brought about by TV money etc and compare it to Rodgers £104,350,000.

Now Consider Rafa had another two years tenure on Rodgers, so say £25m net for two seasons on Rodgers tally would bring it to 154,350,000 which is very, very close to Rafa's figures.

Rodgers has spent in a shorter period of time (3 years vs. 6 years) more money than Rafa did while delivering 0 trophies, end of story.

I just noticed you posted that mate.

Regardless of what has been spent by either of them, Rafa won more trophies in two seasons than we've even come close to winning under Brendan.

That matters more than who's wasted the most money.

I just noticed you posted that mate.

I think it paints a fairer picture that we can all agree on.

I think it paints a fairer picture that we can all agree on.

It does.

You don't happen to have Rafa's squad after 3 seasons, going into his fourth, as comparison Day?

I think if we lined up those two squads it could give an idea of which one we think is stronger and how well resources had been used.