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      We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees

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      RedLFCBlood
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      We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Sep 01, 2015 09:28:59 pm
      £6,800,000 - Luis Alberto on loan at (Deportivo La Coruña)
      £16,000,000 - Mario Balotelli on loan at (AC Milan)
      £19,800,000 - Lazar Markovic on loan at (Fenerbahçe)
      £7,000,000 - Tiago Ilori on loan at (Aston Villa)

      £49.6m

      That's not taking into account the Lovrens and Moreno's and Lallana's who can't exactly be classed as value for the money.

      There is something fundamentally wrong at our club regarding player recruitment.
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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #1: Sep 01, 2015 09:31:12 pm
      Loads of great character you listed there. Spreading their beautiful character onto other clubs.

      Obviously we've got to share the wealth.
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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #2: Sep 01, 2015 09:37:28 pm
      14m gets you Ross MacCormack from the Championship.
      50 odd m gets you de Bruyne or David Luiz.

      If the board had bought real top top 4 Prem Lge players, instead of Carrolls, Adams, Downings, Allens etc, we wouldnt be having any of these debates today. 5 yrs ago 30m would get a terrific midfielder. Now you need to spend substantially more to get the same level player.

      Again, greed and smartarse antics has come back to haunt them.
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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #3: Sep 01, 2015 09:53:23 pm
      £6,800,000 - Luis Alberto on loan at (Deportivo La Coruña)
      £16,000,000 - Mario Balotelli on loan at (AC Milan)
      £19,800,000 - Lazar Markovic on loan at (Fenerbahçe)
      £7,000,000 - Tiago Ilori on loan at (Aston Villa)

      £49.6m

      That's not taking into account the Lovrens and Moreno's and Lallana's who can't exactly be classed as value for the money.

      There is something fundamentally wrong at our club regarding player recruitment.


      Surely that lot there dispels the myth that we are being run by smart businessmen , thats fifty million spunked down the swanny , what an utter joke that is .
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      Reply #4: Sep 01, 2015 09:54:46 pm
      Surely that lot there dispels the myth that we are being run by smart businessmen , thats fifty million spunked down the swanny , what an utter joke that is .

      Throw Lovren, Lallana and Moreno into the mix and its over £100m

      With Lambert, you can basically say we pissed the Surez fee up the wall as last summers transfer business is looking anything but good at the minute, with most either sold or loaned out or not performing.
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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #5: Sep 01, 2015 09:58:07 pm
      Just goes to show Fallows and Co computer software needs updating  8)
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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #6: Sep 01, 2015 10:00:56 pm
      Throw Lovren, Lallana and Moreno into the mix and its over £100m

      With Lambert, you can basically say we pissed the Surez fee up the wall as last summers transfer business is looking anything but good at the minute, with most either sold or loaned out or not performing.

      Apart from

      Benteke > Balotelli
      Clyde    >  Johnson

      Has our first team improved that much at all, I'm not sure?

      Same old squad improvements without any discernible improvements in the first team.
      andylfcynwa
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      Reply #7: Sep 01, 2015 10:06:22 pm
      Throw Lovren, Lallana and Moreno into the mix and its over £100m

      With Lambert, you can basically say we pissed the Surez fee up the wall as last summers transfer business is looking anything but good at the minute, with most either sold or loaned out or not performing.

      And to think some on here were laughing at the spuds for the Bale money being spunked away , cant find the quote but I do remember our gaffer making  a comment on it as well , wonder what he thinks when he gets reminded of that , it should have taught him to think first before gobbing off .
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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #8: Sep 01, 2015 10:08:04 pm
      The problem is, there are also players like Studge, Can, Coutinho, Ibe, and Henderson that you also have to bring into the discussion. You can't just talk about the half of the players that failed to justify their transfer fee. You also need to look at the ones who succeeded and analyze them as a whole. No team has a perfect record when it comes to transfers, and most of the big clubs probably regard less than half of their recent transfers as unqualified successes. Just look at Chelsea, for every Costa  a Remy, for Pedro a Moses, and for Fabregas a Cuadrado. The list goes on and on, but suffice it to say, we aren't the only team with this problem.
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      Reply #9: Sep 01, 2015 10:09:16 pm
      Just goes to show Fallows and Co computer software needs updating  8)

      Think we need more than just a software update , think our floppy disc needs seeing too . ;D
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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #10: Sep 01, 2015 10:10:06 pm
      Every club wastes money on players, some work out others don't. We wasted huge money last Summer but learned a few lessons I think our transfer business has been quite good this season and we have definitely improved on last year. However I'm still not sure we have done enough to get back into the top 4.

      It all depends how quickly the new players click and if we can keep Sturridge fit once he returns.
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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #11: Sep 01, 2015 10:11:35 pm
      £6,800,000 - Luis Alberto on loan at (Deportivo La Coruña)
      £16,000,000 - Mario Balotelli on loan at (AC Milan)
      £19,800,000 - Lazar Markovic on loan at (Fenerbahçe)
      £7,000,000 - Tiago Ilori on loan at (Aston Villa)

      £49.6m

      That's not taking into account the Lovrens and Moreno's and Lallana's who can't exactly be classed as value for the money.

      There is something fundamentally wrong at our club regarding player recruitment.

      We're the club who wasted the most money on sh*t players and this is one of the main reasons we didn't win the league in such a long time. Everytime i think about the deals we've made, i've got a lump in my throat. We've been ran by the most inept people, they never seem to learn, no matter who they are and it beggars belief every time you think of some of our dealings. Yes we'll still make a good transfer here and there, but by the ammount of useless players we signed you get to feel that the good ones were the exceptions.

      The list starts with the likes of Sinama Pongolle and Diao, goes on with Diomede, Mark Gonzalez, Jovanovic and Voronin, and finishes with the likes of Carroll, Assaidi, Alberto or Lovren, among others.

      I don't say that all were piss poor players, some of them indeed were useless, and some were mismanaged, in the end the result was the same: years wasted by signing players that didn't helped us at all.
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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #12: Sep 01, 2015 10:12:56 pm
      The problem is, there are also players like Studge, Can, Coutinho, Ibe, and Henderson that you also have to bring into the discussion. You can't just talk about the half of the players that failed to justify their transfer fee. You also need to look at the ones who succeeded and analyze them as a whole. No team has a perfect record when it comes to transfers, and most of the big clubs probably regard less than half of their recent transfers as unqualified successes. Just look at Chelsea, for every Costa  a Remy, for Pedro a Moses, and for Fabregas a Cuadrado. The list goes on and on, but suffice it to say, we aren't the only team with this problem.
      Thats fair enough but the title of this thread is wasted resources not successful ones .
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      Reply #13: Sep 01, 2015 10:14:51 pm
      Thats fair enough but the title of this thread is wasted resources not successful ones .



      Yeah why bring up positive sh*t, it ruins the atmosphere of the thread.

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      Reply #14: Sep 01, 2015 10:23:46 pm
      We're the club who wasted the most money on sh*t players and this is one of the main reasons we didn't win the league in such a long time. Everytime i think about the deals we've made, i've got a lump in my throat. We've been ran by the most inept people, they never seem to learn, no matter who they are and it beggars belief every time you think of some of our dealings. Yes we'll still make a good transfer here and there, but by the ammount of useless players we signed you get to feel that the good ones were the exceptions.

      The list starts with the likes of Sinama Pongolle and Diao, goes on with Diomede, Mark Gonzalez, Jovanovic and Voronin, and finishes with the likes of Carroll, Assaidi, Alberto or Lovren, among others.

      I don't say that all were piss poor players, some of them indeed were useless, and some were mismanaged, in the end the result was the same: years wasted by signing players that didn't helped us at all.

      The fact our Summer business was infinitely better than last season shows we are learning. We have a good group of players capable of finishing top 4. If Rodgers fails to achieve this he will have to be sacked to give another manager the opportunity to get the most out of the squad.

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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #15: Sep 01, 2015 10:26:30 pm
      I can see the reason why we are taking these punts on potential talent, hopefully  some will come good. After all the other big boys are doing it so we need to keep up.

      Big difference between us and our Top 4 rivals is that they will also part with big cash for top proven talent. Not the Lallana's and Lovrens of this world.
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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #16: Sep 01, 2015 10:37:17 pm
      £6,800,000 - Luis Alberto on loan at (Deportivo La Coruña)
      £16,000,000 - Mario Balotelli on loan at (AC Milan)
      £19,800,000 - Lazar Markovic on loan at (Fenerbahçe)
      £7,000,000 - Tiago Ilori on loan at (Aston Villa)

      £49.6m

      This is painful.
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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #17: Sep 01, 2015 10:43:29 pm

      Yeah why bring up positive sh*t, it ruins the atmosphere of the thread.



      I do believe we have a thread for that nonsense ;D
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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #18: Sep 01, 2015 10:45:00 pm
      Be able to add Origi to this soon, he wont play much.
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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #19: Sep 01, 2015 10:50:21 pm
      £6,800,000 - Luis Alberto on loan at (Deportivo La Coruña)
      £16,000,000 - Mario Balotelli on loan at (AC Milan)
      £19,800,000 - Lazar Markovic on loan at (Fenerbahçe)
      £7,000,000 - Tiago Ilori on loan at (Aston Villa)

      £49.6m

      That's not taking into account the Lovrens and Moreno's and Lallana's who can't exactly be classed as value for the money.

      There is something fundamentally wrong at our club regarding player recruitment.


      There definitely still seems to be a lack of joined up thinking Daz.

      Those above are all good footballers and with Markovic and Ilori in particular described as top talents for the future I have no idea why they are just binned off after spending big money on them.
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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #20: Sep 01, 2015 10:54:06 pm
      £6,800,000 - Luis Alberto on loan at (Deportivo La Coruña)
      £16,000,000 - Mario Balotelli on loan at (AC Milan)
      £19,800,000 - Lazar Markovic on loan at (Fenerbahçe)
      £7,000,000 - Tiago Ilori on loan at (Aston Villa)

      £49.6m

      That's not taking into account the Lovrens and Moreno's and Lallana's who can't exactly be classed as value for the money.

      There is something fundamentally wrong at our club regarding player recruitment.


      Something's not right that's for sure Daz.  We're never going to get every transfer right but of the 24 players bought between 2012 and 2014, 13 are no longer at the Club.
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      Reply #21: Sep 01, 2015 10:54:21 pm
      The list starts with the likes of Sinama Pongolle and Diao, goes on with Diomede, Mark Gonzalez, Jovanovic and Voronin, and finishes with the likes of Carroll, Assaidi, Alberto or Lovren, among others.

      We were told by our Owner following the sacking of Comolli and Kenny that 'We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees' anything before that is irrelevant to this thread in my opinion as it was never a statement that was made by any one else.
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      Re: We'll never again waste resources on inflated transfer fees
      Reply #22: Sep 01, 2015 10:55:02 pm
      There definitely still seems to be a lack of joined up thinking Daz.

      Those above are all good footballers and with Markovic and Ilori in particular described as top talents for the future I have no idea why they are just binned off after spending big money on them.

      Because despite what Rodgers says about no player being signed without his final approval he is a liar and hence has no backbone to stand up to the TC.

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