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      Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST

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      Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Oct 02, 2015 06:52:52 pm

      Everton v Liverpool

      I'll bite:

      TEAM NEWS
      Everton
      defenders John Stones and Seamus Coleman could return from respective knee and hamstring injuries for Sunday's 225th Merseyside derby.

      Muhamed Besic is unlikely to recover in time from a hamstring problem, while Kevin Mirallas is still suspended.

      Liverpool striker Christian Benteke faces a late assessment on his fitness, having missed the last three matches with a hamstring injury.

      Roberto Firmino, Jordan Henderson and Dejan Lovren remain sidelined.

      WHAT THE MANAGERS SAY
      Everton
      manager Roberto Martinez: "If you take the way we have started, we are showing a little bit of form and that could see us as favourites.

      "But if you look at it in terms of the amount of money Liverpool spent over the last three seasons, clearly they need to be the favourites and the ones carrying expectations."

      "Getting three points would allow us to make a really promising start a really exciting start, and the derby is a fixture in which we want to give our fans a real sense of satisfaction."

      Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers: "We will always take the favourite tag. When you are at Liverpool that is what you want.

      "It shows you the level of expectancy here as opposed to another club. We are happy to live with that.

      "We are only a couple of points from where we want to be in the top four. It is still very early on in the season and we are making progress as we go along and we have some outstanding players to come back into the reckoning."


      MATCH FACTS
      Head-to-head


      •Everton have not beaten Liverpool in the last nine attempts in the league (D6, L3). They have not endured a longer winless league streak in this fixture since an 11-match run between 1979 and 1984.
      •Liverpool's only defeat in the 17 most recent league meetings came at Goodison Park in October 2010 (W8, D8, L1). Five of the last six games have been drawn.
      •The Merseyside derby has produced 20 red cards in the Premier League, more than any other fixture in the division. However, there has not been a sending off in the last eight derbies in league and cup since Jack Rodwell's red card in 2011 - which was later rescinded.
      •Everton have not been awarded a penalty in this fixture since David Unsworth scored at Goodison Park in April 2003.
      Everton

      •Roberto Martinez's side are unbeaten in four matches but have not recorded back-to-back league wins since April.
      •Victory over Chelsea in their last home match ended a run of one point from four games at Goodison Park.
      •Everton's victory at West Brom on Monday was the first time in 21 years they have come from two goals behind to win a Premier League game.
      •The Toffees have scored three goals in half of their last six league games but failed to score in the other three.
      •Romelu Lukaku's only league goal at Goodison Park in 2015 was a penalty in the 3-0 victory against Newcastle on 15 March.
      Liverpool

      •The Reds have only won one of their last eight Premier League away games, scoring just five goals (D3, L4).
      •They have conceded nine goals in their last four league games, having kept clean sheets in their opening three matches of the season.
      •Daniel Sturridge has scored six goals in his last eight league and cup games against Everton.
      •Sturridge has the best goals per game ratio (0.65) of any Liverpool player in Premier League history.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34372497



      Knock yourselves out, personally, as things stand, this really is just another game for me.

      We win, then all is great and nothing changes.
      We get beaten, it's work in progress, and nothing changes.
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #1: Oct 02, 2015 06:55:46 pm
      Well a poll was added against Villa and we somehow managed the win so let's see if it works again for this game.

      Personally, I think we are going to lose this game. Everton will step their game up like against Chelsea and know this is their chance to really take advantage.
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #2: Oct 02, 2015 06:59:12 pm
      The bullshit derby ? Both managers trying to match each others verbal diaorreah. Must play on the front foot, same team as the villa match, get at them, play to our strengths (ahem), going for a 2-1 win
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #3: Oct 02, 2015 06:59:41 pm
      Would hate it if Rodgers lost his job after getting beat by the Bitters................. .... Just win.
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #4: Oct 02, 2015 07:10:16 pm
      A thought just occurred to me that we no longer have any players that Everton supporters hate with a venom, well at least not like "hated" in the past.

      Just what/who will they boo? They will probably start with the Toffee lady and go on from there....
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #5: Oct 02, 2015 07:18:26 pm
                Bogdan
      Clyne Skrtel Sakho Gomez
         Can Milner Lucas
              Coutinho
           Ings Sturridge

      Don't think he'll start Bogdan, but I reckon we need to move on from Migs ... though not sure Bogdan is up to it, but would give him a chance.
      Gomez in for Moreno, just think he's stronger defender and we will be a bit more focused on that, than the attacking, at least from the off.
      Was thinking might start Lallana, but away to these, probably not. We need to get tackles in, so go for Milner/Can/Lucas.
      Then Cou, Ings and Studge.
      They're in better form, they'll be going all out for the win ... so that gives us a chance on the break if we're good enough to take chances when they come. A lot will depend on Studge.
      Am sure BR can't even contemplate a loss...


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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #6: Oct 02, 2015 07:18:50 pm
      Would hate it if Rodgers lost his job after getting beat by the Bitters................. .... Just win.

      Think it was Mick who posted 6/4 being a great price for Everton to do us in this and I can only but agree. Brendan may have said they've had a good start and we've had a disaster but yet 'only' a point behind them but we all know that doesn't begin to tell the difference in starts we've had.

      I think we're set up for them to perform, we're basically on the ropes ready for a knockout punch and what more motivation will they need.

      Really hope we play Danny Ings for this, I think with him we have a chance of really unsettling their defence and perhaps grabbing a goal or two, especially if Studge is on form, I just can't see us keeping a clean sheet at the other end. Maybe we squeak a 2-1 win and go on a roll because there's no denying how this game can swing confidence and momentum but if I'm brutally honest I see us losing 3-1 and the fact I'm thinking that without anger raging over me shows how not only expectations have been dumbed down but also emotion.

      Many have said how apathetic they are now towards the club and how the heart has been ripped from the club, the identity of what we've all seen grow over generations now missing. This is a chance to show us that we're wrong, to light fires were smouldering ashes lie, re-ignite the passion not only in the fans but in the players and show what it means to play for Liverpool because if you fail to do it in the derby then the boos will resonate far and wide. This could be both a turning point for good or a tipping point, as jovial as Brendan may have seemed following the dismal result against Sion, I hope he realises just how big a game this is.
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #7: Oct 02, 2015 07:22:03 pm
      Mignolet
      Can     Toure     Sakho
      Clyne         Milner      Lucas          Moreno
      Coutinho
      Ings     Sturridge
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #8: Oct 02, 2015 07:43:58 pm
      We need Sakho marking Lukaku at set pieces, the only defender we have that I have confidence in when it comes to stopping Lukaku aerially.
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #9: Oct 02, 2015 07:52:04 pm
      Everton have to be favourites especially with it being at Goodison. Getting beaten by them will be very painful I dont give a sh*t about Brendan
      I give a sh*t about having to be ridiculed by the blueshite for the next 6 months
      « Last Edit: Oct 02, 2015 08:37:12 pm by waltonl4 »
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #10: Oct 02, 2015 08:31:42 pm
      A thought just occurred to me that we no longer have any players that Everton supporters hate with a venom, well at least not like "hated" in the past.

      Just what/who will they boo? They will probably start with the Toffee lady and go on from there....

      They'll still sing about Gerrard  :confused-smiley-013:
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #11: Oct 02, 2015 08:40:05 pm
      They'll still sing about Gerrard  :confused-smiley-013:

      they always will...and there you have the bluenose.
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #12: Oct 02, 2015 08:47:38 pm
      they always will...and there you have the bluenose.

      and bitter at that !!  :lmao:
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #13: Oct 02, 2015 09:17:42 pm
                                                                    Mignolet
                                                       Gomez    Skrtel    Sakho
                                               Clyne        Can       Milner        Moreno
                                                                 Coutinho
                                                            Ings     Sturridge


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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #14: Oct 02, 2015 09:24:27 pm
      Pessimistic lot you. :(

      I say we will beat the bitters 2-1 and Brendan will be safe until end of season. :)

      Benteke to score the 2 goals. ;)
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #15: Oct 02, 2015 09:30:20 pm
      Brendan will be safe until end of season

      Who's being pessimistic now ! :)



      I think we will go 4 at the back for this game.

                                       Mignolet

      Clyne              Skrtel             Sakho       Moreno 

                                      Lucas
                             Milner         Can
                               
                                  Coutinho

                            Sturridge   Ings


      3 - 2  win
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #16: Oct 02, 2015 10:33:07 pm
      Pessimistic lot you. :(

      I say we will beat the bitters 2-1 and Brendan will be safe until end of season. :)

      Benteke to score the 2 goals. ;)

      brendan will be gone next week and Benteke is still injured
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #17: Oct 02, 2015 11:47:59 pm
      16 posts so far on the local derby sums up the apathy that people  have towards the club at the moment.

      I can't recall it being this bad during the reign of the Hodge!
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #18: Oct 03, 2015 12:32:46 am
      Blue onslaught over Red.

      My poo poo valve is open and constantly discharging at the thought of this fixture.
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #19: Oct 03, 2015 01:01:12 am
      2-1 reds
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #20: Oct 03, 2015 01:22:16 am
      A win against Everton and we're back in the hunt. Let's hope the first team perform a bit more than most of the second string showed in midweek. I'd prefer to see us go with a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 (narrow diamond) and put the extra number in midfield but no doubt we'll go with a back 3/5 and continuously lose possession in the middle like we have done for the past few games.

      Mignolet

      Can Skrtel Sakho

      Clyne                           Moreno

      Lucas Milner

      Coutinho

      Sturridge Ings

      I expect to see that line up
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #21: Oct 03, 2015 06:52:07 am
      It hurts as a LIVERPOOL fan, to see fellow reds that will be happy to lose the derby ,
      JUST to see the back of Rodgers
       No officiality that   Rodgers will be sacked if he loses the derby ,  although its being proposed by the media
      don't think Brendan's future at the club depends  on this one game
      if he is to be sacked , the decision is already taken , win or lose the derby
      SO  I voted YES ,a red win ,in the poll, not because I want a   Rodgers stay
      BUT because I want to be positive and want my team to win every-game especially derbies
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      Re: Pre Match: Everton v Liverpool Sunday, 4 October, KO 13:30 BST
      Reply #22: Oct 03, 2015 08:03:53 am
      Think it was Mick who posted 6/4 being a great price for Everton to do us in this and I can only but agree. Brendan may have said they've had a good start and we've had a disaster but yet 'only' a point behind them but we all know that doesn't begin to tell the difference in starts we've had.

      I think we're set up for them to perform, we're basically on the ropes ready for a knockout punch and what more motivation will they need.

      Really hope we play Danny Ings for this, I think with him we have a chance of really unsettling their defence and perhaps grabbing a goal or two, especially if Studge is on form, I just can't see us keeping a clean sheet at the other end. Maybe we squeak a 2-1 win and go on a roll because there's no denying how this game can swing confidence and momentum but if I'm brutally honest I see us losing 3-1 and the fact I'm thinking that without anger raging over me shows how not only expectations have been dumbed down but also emotion.

      Many have said how apathetic they are now towards the club and how the heart has been ripped from the club, the identity of what we've all seen grow over generations now missing. This is a chance to show us that we're wrong, to light fires were smouldering ashes lie, re-ignite the passion not only in the fans but in the players and show what it means to play for Liverpool because if you fail to do it in the derby then the boos will resonate far and wide. This could be both a turning point for good or a tipping point, as jovial as Brendan may have seemed following the dismal result against Sion, I hope he realises just how big a game this is.



      Great Post Luke,

      Wish I had the same positivity but I really cannot see us getting much if anything out of Blueshite,
      While they are firing we've yet to ignite the kindling,

      I'm not so sure BR realises just how pivotal this match is if I'm honest,  he doesn't come across as a manager who has the confidence his players will have that will to win,  that fighting spirit you need, the extra 10% that will be needed to beat them,

      As usual it's all soundbites and bullshit,  we're only a win away from top 4, yes maybe, but we're only one loss away from the bottom of the mountain,  the one that's higher than last season's,

      My fear is they could turn us over big style,  they are playing as a unit, are familiar with one another's positioning,  have a established way of playing,  are organised and full of confidence, 
      Can't say that about us can we?

      Unlike me to be negative but I can't help how I feel,  my heart says we will scrape a win, but my brain is flashing a massive red warning sign.


      YNWA

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