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      Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko

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      Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Nov 23, 2015 12:56:58 pm


      As hard as it may be for you and I, we need to come down from the elation of Saturdays emphatic win against City and set our sights on the next target, Bordeaux at home in the Europa League. A win here secures qualification and can save some key players a trip to Sion in two weeks time. So as tough as it may be for us mere mortals to regain our focus, you can be sure Jürgen and the Mighty Reds (Not that F***ing bird!) have their sights firmly set on this.

      Bordeaux, not all to dissimilar to ourselves, are languishing in mid table, 13th, in their league, far from where they want to be. However, where we look to be improving leaps and bounds, Bordeaux have been struggling, they've won just three matches in all competitions since we played the last on the 17th of September. That run includes four losses, one of which was a 6-1 hammering from Nice! In that time they have shipped 19 goals (in 13 games) to our 12 goals (in 14), keeping just three clean sheets in the same time frame (the same as us).



      Above is how they lined up against Sion last time out, a 1-1 draw with Bordeaux conceding an injury time own goal. Against us at home they set up with a 4-4-2 diamond, and in their last match on Sunday they played a 4-3-3. They still have a chance of qualifying from the group with two games to go, so it really depends on how seriously they are taking this. They just played at 4 o'clock on Sunday, if they want to focus on the domestic league they could use this a break and rest players and go with a similar formation as above. Or they might just go all out and play the same as they did on Sunday:



      Personally I hope they come to attack. While we've seen fantastic progress under Klopp, our best games have been away at teams that have come at us looking to attack and leaving space. We still struggle to break down teams that park the bus.

      A quick overview of their squad shows a few insights. Khazri is their main attacking threat with 4 goals and 5 assists. Their discipline is poor, 34 yellows and 4 reds so far this season, and Poko in particular is a serial offender. A bit of pace and trickery can exploit that. Just as much of their shots come from outside the box as come from the 18 yard box (46%), and 6 of their 19 goals have come from the dreaded set piece! Also there has been very little consistency to their line ups (as you can see) so this isn't a settled team, their is misunderstanding and mistakes everywhere here.

      Everything Klopp has shown so far suggests that this will be taken seriously. And his team will reflect that. Especially with the chance to rest key players away at Sion heading into a busy Christmas period. Personally I would like to see Bogdan start and challenge Mignolet more, but I don't think he will, he'll get his game next week in the League Cup but I expect Mignolet in for this. I think the back four picks itself, same as Saturday, put the game to bed and there's the chance to rest players. I know Flanagan is only back in training so I don't expect him to be involved, however the UEFA website has Randall listed as injured? Seeing as he was a sub on Saturday and I haven't heard anything since I am going to expect him on the bench to give Clyne a break if the opportunity arises. Seeing as Klopp mentioned Enrique is back training with the team this would have been a good game to use him, Moreno has played a lot of Football, at a high intensity too. But since Enrique isn't eligible Moreno is going to have to keep it up until Flanagan back to fitness.

      In midfield Lucas is out of the Swansea game on Sunday after getting his fifth yellow against City, so I expect him to start this one. Milner just came back from break so I expect him to be fresh enough to play his part and Klopp has been persistent with Can, he is developing and improving and I see him getting in here again. As with the back four the bench should be utilised to rest those that need it. Allen and Chirivella ready made recruits, with particular interest in seeing more from the youngster.

      Out wide and in attack I see the big changes from Saturday, Coutinho hobbled off on Saturday and I see no reason to risk him further in our current injury situation. Firmino was excellent on Saturday but is still adapting and I thought he looked quite tired when he came off. The break will do him no harm, I would start him on the bench from here. Two players who have benefited greatly from Klopps arrival have been Ibe and Lallana, you can see the man management being done there. I would think these two would suit perfectly as the speed and trickery to draw the fouls and create the space in that Bordeux back line. Along with them I see Benteke starting. Origi didn't make the bench on Saturday, I think he has been taken back a step to refine his game, he was thrown in at the deep end due to injuries, there's no need to over expose him any more now that we have Benteke back and Sturridge ready for some minutes. Speaking of Sturridge I think he was only on the bench on Saturday in case we were very desperate in the last 10 minutes, I don't think Klopp wanted to play him at all, and therefore didn't! A few minutes at the end here should suffice, let's not rush things. Benteke is more than just a big lad up top, he's shown his vision and movement are fantastic and he will be a real handful for their defenders. I thought he looked indecisive in his one-on-one with Hart on Saturday, get a few goals here and put those thoughts out of your head lad.



      The bench is where Klopp will have most license to tinker. I imagine it will be a good mix of experience and youth;
      Bogdan, Toure, Randall, Allen, Chirivella, Firmino, Sturridge

      Like I say, this all depends on if they come to play or not. If they do come at us I can see a 3-1 (Benteke, Lallana, Sturridge). If not I see a frustrating night ahead but enough quality there to get the job done, 1-0 (Benteke).
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      Re: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #1: Nov 23, 2015 01:01:46 pm
      I know Lucas is suspended against Swansea, but I would still rest him and not risk.

      Would look into a Can and Allen partnertship with Can playing more defensively and Allen in the Can's usual midfield role.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #2: Nov 23, 2015 04:31:36 pm
      I'll be on Broad Street, Birmingham getting arseholed whilst watching this. Can't wait.

      I'd start Benteke and just try and give Studge half an hour ready for Swansea if possible.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #3: Nov 23, 2015 04:45:29 pm
      I'll be on Broad Street, Birmingham getting arseholed whilst watching this. Can't wait.

      I'd start Benteke and just try and give Studge half an hour ready for Swansea if possible.

      The Oz bar on Broad St should have the game on if your looking for a place to watch the game.

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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #4: Nov 23, 2015 04:49:32 pm
      The Oz bar on Broad St should have the game on if your looking for a place to watch the game.



      I'm actually watching it in the Walkabout if that's what you mean mate. Don't normally like them but that one is sound. Huge screen last time I was there a couple of years back.

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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #5: Nov 23, 2015 04:53:00 pm
      I'm actually watching it in the Walkabout if that's what you mean mate. Don't normally like them but that one is sound. Huge screen last time I was there a couple of years back.



      That's the one  :gt-happyup:

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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #6: Nov 23, 2015 06:36:45 pm
      I know Lucas is suspended against Swansea, but I would still rest him and not risk.

      Would look into a Can and Allen partnertship with Can playing more defensively and Allen in the Can's usual midfield role.

      Not risk what? He's unable to play at the weekend so he without doubt starts this game ahead of Allen.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #7: Nov 23, 2015 06:59:21 pm
      Not risk what? He's unable to play at the weekend so he without doubt starts this game ahead of Allen.

      Agree. Saturday to Thursday is plenty of time between games to rest up.  Play the strongest 11 and get another win. Winning is a habit and we need to start making a habit of it now!! 

      I hope Benteke gets the nod, with Studge getting minutes off the bench.  If we can get one of them in top form we'll be very dangerous!!! 

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      Lucas - Can
      Firmino - Lallana - Coutinho
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      3-0 to the Reds!!!!
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #8: Nov 23, 2015 07:01:21 pm
      Not risk what? He's unable to play at the weekend so he without doubt starts this game ahead of Allen.

      This. I would like to see Milner or Can be given a rest though seeing as one of them will have to attempt to play Lucas' role against Swansea. Wouldn't mind Allen starting instead of Can. Don't want him getting heavy legs.

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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #9: Nov 23, 2015 07:08:47 pm
      This. I would like to see Milner or Can be given a rest though seeing as one of them will have to attempt to play Lucas' role against Swansea. Wouldn't mind Allen starting instead of Can. Don't want him getting heavy legs.



      Milner I can understand as he's just come back from injury but barring Saturdays game Can hasn't played for a fortnight.  No way should he be heavy legged at 21 years of age after a 2 week break.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #10: Nov 23, 2015 08:24:17 pm
      Be handy to get qualification sorted this week.  Think we will.  Seems to be a few players slowly getting back to first team action and I'd imagine everyone wants to be involved as a first teamer.

      Bizarrely we could use Sturridge and Benteke because on the showing against Man City there is no guarantee they will be starting in the league for us!
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #11: Nov 23, 2015 09:08:54 pm
      Only just clicked on that we qualify with a win!
      In that case I would argue for a strong team (which Klopp has tended to go for in EL so far anyway), also to give us a bit of a lift at home to try and match our away performances.
      I would go with:

                                    Mignolet
                      Clyne   Skrtel    Lovren  Moreno
                                     Lucas
                                 Can    Allen
                          Firmino         Ibe
                                    Benteke

      Bogdan; Toure, Randall; Milner, Teixeira; Coutinho; Sturridge

      Might be a good opportunity to give Sturridge 30 minutes to see how he could get on against Swansea on sunday.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #12: Nov 23, 2015 11:14:29 pm
      Get this done and over so we can relax.
      Qualified.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #13: Nov 23, 2015 11:44:44 pm
      I'd probably only rest Milner and Coutinho for this one. Go out there with a strong team, get qualification wrapped up and then we can send the squad players to Sion for the last game.
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      Reply #14: Nov 24, 2015 03:23:56 am
      Qualification has to be the priority so go with a strong a team as possible. I do think we'll get the win. Hopefully Sturridge can get some minutes off the bench ahead of the game against Swansea.

      Mignolet; Clyne,Skrtel,Lovren,Moreno; Can,Lucas; Milner,Firmino,Lallana; Benteke
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      Reply #15: Nov 24, 2015 05:54:34 am
      Simply must win this game. I would love us to win the EL this season. With Klopp and ke players staying injury free it's very possible.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #16: Nov 24, 2015 07:43:38 am
      Beat Bordeaux and secure a place in the next stage, treat  this as another step on the way to winning this cup. I think Klopp can put out any 11 players in the knowledge that they will fight to the end for the right result. We can and will win this one.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #17: Nov 24, 2015 08:38:56 am
      Again, these are no pushovers, no easy games anymore. We need to create what we did against chavs and shity at home now.
      Everyone is becoming more and more familiar with Jurgens way of thinking and playing, we can surely only get better.
      The players owe us a decent performance at home, after some of the dour stuff they've turned out over the last year or so. Nows their chance. Strike while the irons hot. A 3 - 0 win, and onto the next round.
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      Reply #18: Nov 24, 2015 09:49:15 am
      People were initially talking about the need the buy another striker. But now that you look at it Klopp would have a major selection headache with Sturridge and Benteke fit, considering that the false 9 formation is working great for us so far. I think we should pair Sturridge and Benteke upfront together for this game to see how it works out. I don't think they have played together at all this season.

      Other than that I hope Arsenal make it through to the knock-out stage in CL. Having them take Europa league seriously could be risky for us  :(. I think their loss could also increase the risk of CL qualification for 4th spot going away. Any one has any idea how likely it is that the 4th spot could be lost? :-\

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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #19: Nov 24, 2015 10:02:06 am
      Can't see why so many want Lucas and Can to play in this one.  They've both become essential in midfield over the last few weeks, can't afford for them to be knackered against Swansea.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #20: Nov 24, 2015 10:06:45 am
      Can't see why so many want Lucas and Can to play in this one.  They've both become essential in midfield over the last few weeks, can't afford for them to be knackered against Swansea.

      Lucas won't play against Swansea.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #21: Nov 24, 2015 10:36:35 am

      ah right the yellow cards.  thanks for the reminder mate.

      still not sure if it's a good idea.  He's not exactly Usain Bolt even when he is fully fit.  Couldn't hurt to give him an extended rest before the crowded December fixtures coming up.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #22: Nov 24, 2015 11:01:21 am
      ah right the yellow cards.  thanks for the reminder mate.

      still not sure if it's a good idea.  He's not exactly Usain Bolt even when he is fully fit.  Couldn't hurt to give him an extended rest before the crowded December fixtures coming up.

      The lads just had a few weeks of, why does he need a rest right now? It's a must win game, he has to play IMO. Skrtel has to as well, don't feel confident going into a fairly important game with somebody who has played about 5 minutes of football all season (Toure).
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #23: Nov 24, 2015 11:48:46 am
      Should be an easy win, also a good oppurtunity to improve our home form which has been fairly average since the start of the season.
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      Reply #24: Nov 24, 2015 01:31:53 pm
      I think this game will be one of those games where the longer we take to score the more difficult it will get. Get an early goal and I think we may score 4 or 5.

                                       Mignolet

      Clyne          Skrtel               Kolo            Morino

                              Lucas        Allen

            Ibe                    Firmino              Lallana
                 
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #25: Nov 24, 2015 01:52:45 pm
      I think this game will be one of those games where the longer we take to score the more difficult it will get. Get an early goal and I think we may score 4 or 5.

                                       Mignolet

      Clyne          Skrtel               Kolo            Morino

                              Lucas        Allen

            Ibe                    Firmino              Lallana
                 
                                       Benteke                     

      Lucas is out mate too many Refs give him ~Yellow cards for nothing. I cant see us changing much from Saturday with Allen coming in for Lucas.
      When we have Sturridge,Benteke and Henderson all fit we are going to have a very decent team and a strong bench.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #26: Nov 24, 2015 02:02:21 pm
      Lucas is out mate too many Refs give him ~Yellow cards for nothing. I cant see us changing much from Saturday with Allen coming in for Lucas.
      When we have Sturridge,Benteke and Henderson all fit we are going to have a very decent team and a strong bench.

      I thought he was going to be suspended for the Swansea game mate ?
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      Reply #27: Nov 24, 2015 02:14:06 pm
      Defenetly a must win game. Id go with Benteke and Firmino to score one each. 2-0 .
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #28: Nov 24, 2015 02:18:27 pm
      I don't see the need to change the back-5. Bogdan can come in for the Saints game if needed. Lucas is suspended only for Swansea; Would probably give Can and Lallana a breather. Not too sure about Studge starting though.

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      Subs - Bogdan, Randall, Toure, Can, Lallana, Studge, Origi
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #29: Nov 24, 2015 05:58:35 pm
      Mignolet

      Clyne
      Skrtel
      Lovren
      Moreno

      Milner (c)
      Allen
      Emre Can

      Ibe
      Benteke
      Lallana

      Subs: Bogdan; Randall, Toure; Lucas; Firmino; Sturridge, Origi.

      3-0 to us!
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      Reply #30: Nov 24, 2015 09:49:05 pm
      Looking forward to a bit of a party atmosphere on the Kop when we celebrate qualification into the next round, have a feeling we'll get a decent win and the kopites will be bouncing  8)
      Can see a mixture of first teamers and fringe players on Thursday, whoever pulls on the red shirt. Klopp will have them running their socks off and pressing nice and high up that pitch, actually really excited about being there....come on you mighty reds !!
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #31: Nov 24, 2015 11:06:10 pm
      Mignolet

      Clyne
      Skrtel
      Lovren
      Moreno

      Milner (c)
      Allen
      Emre Can

      Ibe
      Benteke
      Lallana

      Subs: Bogdan; Randall, Toure; Lucas; Firmino; Sturridge, Origi.

      3-0 to us!

      We may be lacking the ability to unlock their defence if they park the bus, without our bit of Brazilian magic.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #32: Nov 25, 2015 09:52:49 am
      I think Klopp will play pretty much his strongest 11, remember what he said a few weeks back...

      We are not tired until we say we are tired. All this talk of giving rests is a bit of a joke if you ask me.

      Play as close to the team that played city and let them build more confidence together. The confidence gained in that match will have every single player who played energised and raring to go.

      Also let's not forget this is a competition we could have a real chance in and it also gives us another route into the Champs League.

      Start with the strongest team and then start resting people mid match if we need to. But in reality these are all professional athletes and playing games is what they are paid to do.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #33: Nov 25, 2015 10:21:19 am


      Their badge is F***ing sh*t!
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #34: Nov 25, 2015 02:29:27 pm
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      Reply #35: Nov 25, 2015 06:24:33 pm
      I think Klopp will play pretty much his strongest 11, remember what he said a few weeks back...

      We are not tired until we say we are tired. All this talk of giving rests is a bit of a joke if you ask me.

      Play as close to the team that played city and let them build more confidence together. The confidence gained in that match will have every single player who played energised and raring to go.

      Also let's not forget this is a competition we could have a real chance in and it also gives us another route into the Champs League.

      Start with the strongest team and then start resting people mid match if we need to. But in reality these are all professional athletes and playing games is what they are paid to do.

      This.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #36: Nov 25, 2015 06:34:33 pm


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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #37: Nov 25, 2015 06:45:08 pm

      I'm not sure I understand what the problems are now Huyton ?
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #38: Nov 25, 2015 07:01:07 pm
      I'm not sure I understand what the problems are now Huyton ?

      From "The Huge Anfield Problem" thread:

      Statement On Flags And Banners On The Kop

      Below is a statement, hosted here, on behalf of the supporters responsible for many flags and banners as an update to the current situation.

      Last weekend, supporters from Spion Kop 1906, On The Kop forum, the owner of the large Kop surfer flag and others responsible for the majority of flags and banners, met to discuss the recent issues that ultimately led to the removal of flags and banners prior to the Crystal Palace match at Anfield last week.

      That decision had been taken by Spion Kop 1906 and was supported by all others, as sign of disapproval at recent events. Many have sought to pin this decision to one incident, but as was discussed on Sunday, this was in fact the culmination of a number of incidents that supporters felt left them with no choice.

      It is a matter of record that at the final home game of last season, a supporter was involved in an incident with another supporter which has recently led to a supporter being banned from all football matches for three years, fined and subject to a curfew via electronic tag. Many have commented on this matter and the severity of the punishment for an incident that many have previously bore witness to, both inside football stadiums and elsewhere.

      However, not previously discussed are the incidents that contributed to this matter and have subsequently taken place which has left supporters angry. These include:

      Ahead of the Crystal Palace match, the club indicated their willingness to do a mosaic to mark the last Anfield appearance of Steven Gerrard. They spoke to Spion Kop 1906 about this and the supporters planned the mosaic along with subsequent banner displays to take place. This was agreed with the club. On the day of the match, stewards were unaware of the plans. The club had failed to communicate the plans to stewards ahead of the match and there were various disagreements and arguments that took place with threats made by stewards. Many feel this was a contributing factor to the incident that occurred.

      During the summer, Spion Kop 1906 were invited to a meeting with the club. They understood this to be a discussion to rectify the stewarding issues at the Crystal Palace match. The supporters were accompanied by a Spirit Of Shankly representative and it became apparent that the meeting was to discuss the incident at the Crystal Palace. Supporters were confronted and asked to name the supporter involved as the matter had now been passed to the police. The club later apologised for how the matter had been handled.

      One of the supporters involved in Spion Kop 1906 was regularly contacted by Merseyside Police, asking for information and applying pressure to name the individual, with threats that Spion Kop 1906 would find their names in the local paper and would be linked to a disability hate crime. This was particularly concerning and offensive to the individual who has a relative in a wheel chair.

      Even after the individual involved in the Crystal Palace incident had spoken to the police, Spion Kop 1906 were asked to meet with Merseyside Police’s Football Intelligence Officer. They met in the police cells within Anfield stadium and were told that they should be grateful for being allowed to do the flags. They were also told that the police had been asked to speak to the supporters but would not say who by. It is assumed that as this meeting took place on club property, the club were aware of it.

      There was the subsequent proposals for supporters with flags and banners to be ‘accredited’ which were later dropped after a meeting with the club.

      The supporter involved in the Crystal Palace incident, was banned by Liverpool FC, following two complaints from the other individual involved in the incident. This was ahead of any court hearing. The supporter was banned without any contact from the club and was informed by letter. When he contacted them to discuss this, the club refused to enter into dialogue with him and said they would not take representations from him and that this matter was separate to the court case ongoing at the time. This has caused concern for Spirit Of Shankly and the club have so far failed to respond appropriately to discuss this matter to put in place a fair and transparent process for supporters.

      The above incidents have left some supporters angry and with a fear and threat of being unfairly targeted and even banned if they find themselves in a disagreement with a supporter or if the club do not like what they are doing. It is worth remembering that all these supporters produce these flags and banners in their own time and often at their own expense or from contributions from other supporters. They plan and choreograph displays, often arriving in the ground early forsaking activities that may take place pre-match. These images are used by the club, framed with sponsors logos around the Kop, to sell merchandise and a vision of Anfield - a spectacle to come and marvel at, the traditions of Anfield and LFC in full flow. Supporters are now left questioning if LFC value them, or just the image they provide.

      Supporters feel these issues need addressing if they are to continue to provide one of the few remaining high points of an Anfield atmosphere. It is with this in mind that they have contacted LFC to ask for a meeting to seek a positive resolution, one that gives them the reassurances they need and deserve so there is no repeat of these incidents moving forward and the club can learn lessons.

      Supporters plan to bring back the flags and banners providing LFC respond positively to the request to meet.


      http://www.spiritofshankly.com/news/statement-on-flags-and-banners-on-the-kop
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #39: Nov 25, 2015 07:10:19 pm
      Can't wait for this game! Such a good feeling looking forward to games again instead of dreading them.
      Hopefully we go at them like we did City and secure qualification. Before after a good performance we would let ourselves down in the next game, hopefully times really have changed and we can soon be talking about another really good result. Winning and doing so confidently stands you in good stead for the upcoming games and could get us on a good run of results.

      Will be a strong line up, it's clear Klopp is taking this seriously and rightly so. Feeling confident of a win and a clean sheet. 3-0 win.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #40: Nov 25, 2015 07:51:17 pm
      I think we'll line up with Benteke and Sturridge up front..
      Think he'll give Sturridge as close a role to what Coutinho has been doing..

      No point in holding back now we've discovered our mojo..

      We'll batter these , gonna go for another 4-1 and qualification out of the group... 8)

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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #41: Nov 25, 2015 08:36:05 pm
      I'm not convinced Benteke or Sturridge should start. Sturridge isn't match fit, Benteke missed a lot against palace and if he netted his chances we would  have got something from that game. Coutinho, Flamino and Ibe front 3 would be best going on form. I know they're not traditional strikers..  but I'm sure there's goals in them.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #42: Nov 25, 2015 08:50:42 pm
      I'm not convinced Benteke or Sturridge should start. Sturridge isn't match fit, Benteke missed a lot against palace and if he netted his chances we would  have got something from that game. Coutinho, Flamino and Ibe front 3 would be best going on form. I know they're not traditional strikers..  but I'm sure there's goals in them.

      How do you get a player match fit if they are fit enough to sit on the bench?

      Flamino? 

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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #43: Nov 25, 2015 09:15:37 pm
      Didn't think Coutinho was fit.. a slight hamstring problem Jürgen said..
      Got the impression he would rest him with Swansea in mind.. could be wrong but a wise decision if he does..
      Therefore give Sturridge and Benteke a shout and rest Firmino..
      The month of May is a long way off and we have to play Sturridge sooner rather than later even if its for an hour.
      I'm not suggesting drop Firmino as the fall guy but he has developed a definite understanding with Coutinho...maybe it's Studge and Bens turn?

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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #44: Nov 25, 2015 09:30:31 pm
      How do you get a player match fit if they are fit enough to sit on the bench?

      Flamino?
      sorry it's the predictive text.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #45: Nov 25, 2015 09:33:16 pm
      Didn't think Coutinho was fit.. a slight hamstring problem Jürgen said..
      Got the impression he would rest him with Swansea in mind.. could be wrong but a wise decision if he does..
      Therefore give Sturridge and Benteke a shout and rest Firmino..
      The month of May is a long way off and we have to play Sturridge sooner rather than later even if its for an hour.
      I'm not suggesting drop Firmino as the fall guy but he has developed a definite understanding with Coutinho...maybe it's Studge and Bens turn?
      I guess we do need to rotate players. Aslong as we win! Klopp takes these games serious so I think we'll be fine.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #46: Nov 26, 2015 04:25:26 am
      I think Klopp will play pretty much his strongest 11, remember what he said a few weeks back...

      We are not tired until we say we are tired. All this talk of giving rests is a bit of a joke if you ask me.

      Play as close to the team that played city and let them build more confidence together. The confidence gained in that match will have every single player who played energised and raring to go.

      Also let's not forget this is a competition we could have a real chance in and it also gives us another route into the Champs League.

      Start with the strongest team and then start resting people mid match if we need to. But in reality these are all professional athletes and playing games is what they are paid to do.


      100% agree with this. I'd love us to win this,we're definitely capable of winning and what a first trophy that could be for Klopp. A real statement of intent.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #47: Nov 26, 2015 08:06:36 am
      For those who missed it, here's the pre-match interview for your build up to tonight's game.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_0WEw_mNng
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #48: Nov 26, 2015 08:10:43 am
      Dejan Lovren's pre match press conference.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlQrvqXbu6A
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #49: Nov 26, 2015 08:30:00 am
      For those who missed it, here's the pre-match interview for your build up to tonight's game.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_0WEw_mNng

      It's a good laugh in places but I'd suggest to anyone who hasn't watched it try to skip the translations, drags on a bit.

      I like the way he basically tells the press to stop asking about his training methods, that's for us to know and you not to. Also at pains not to knock the previous manager which I like because it was clearly a leading question for him to do so. No surprise from me but I thought he dealt with it all superbly again, a real breath of fresh air.

      Just the very simple things like giving young Isaac the credit alone rather than the press suggesting it was "kids" who asked him, little things like that add up. Some would suggest that's nothing and a simple thing we do all the time but when done with genuine motives it just makes you warm even further to people.

      Can't fault the man and for me (as you'll all know too well) that's a very rare thing.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #50: Nov 26, 2015 09:15:21 am
      Luke I also give Jürgen Klopp full marks for not laying any blame on Rodgers-which he was fully entitled to do in my opinion. He also made sure the media were fully aware that it was only young Isaac who had been giving him lessons on scouse terminology. We are lucky to have the man at Liverpool.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #51: Nov 26, 2015 11:43:10 am
      It's a good laugh in places but I'd suggest to anyone who hasn't watched it try to skip the translations, drags on a bit.

      Also at pains not to knock the previous manager which I like because it was clearly a leading question for him to do so. No surprise from me but I thought he dealt with it all superbly again, a real breath of fresh air.

      Luke I also give Jürgen Klopp full marks for not laying any blame on Rodgers-which he was fully entitled to do in my opinion. He also made sure the media were fully aware that it was only young Isaac who had been giving him lessons on scouse terminology. We are lucky to have the man at Liverpool.

      Its like a fab woman after a bad 'un as I can testify to.

      The contrast is stark and the the more fab your girl is the bigger bi*ch the first one becomes in comparison.


      He doesnt need to knock Rodgers.

      Rodgers actions ... or lack of ... eventually spoke louder than his sound bytes and Jürgen simply shows Rodgers up all the time for what he was.

      End Of. /




      The game ?

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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #52: Nov 26, 2015 01:16:38 pm
      Every match now is as it should be important and full of anticipation. He manages to express himself positively in press conferences just by talking directly to people and answering questions the same way. I cant wait to see his team for tonight I hope we get to see Sturridge and Benteke play together if that could work anything is possible this season.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #53: Nov 26, 2015 01:17:47 pm
      Supposed team for tonight :- Mignolet – Clyne, Touré, Lovren, Moreno – Milner, Lucas, Allen – Ibe, Firmino – Benteke.

      Subs from: Bogdán, Smith, Randall, Lallana, Emre Can, Brannagan, Sturridge, Origi
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #54: Nov 26, 2015 01:22:50 pm
      Supposed team for tonight :- Mignolet – Clyne, Touré, Lovren, Moreno – Milner, Lucas, Allen – Ibe, Firmino – Benteke.

      Subs from: Bogdán, Smith, Randall, Lallana, Emre Can, Brannagan, Sturridge, Origi

      another chance for Dejan to show us he is  definitely on the mend . Allen  is an obvious one and really pleased IBE gets another chance as I can see this kid becoming a real star for us. Forgot we even had Origi in the squad were has he been. Cant wait for the game
      « Last Edit: Nov 26, 2015 02:27:29 pm by waltonl4 »
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #55: Nov 26, 2015 01:24:01 pm
      Supposed team for tonight :- Mignolet – Clyne, Touré, Lovren, Moreno – Milner, Lucas, Allen – Ibe, Firmino – Benteke.

      Subs from: Bogdán, Smith, Randall, Lallana, Emre Can, Brannagan, Sturridge, Origi

      Decent team although surprised to see Bogdan not getting the nod to be honest.

      Apparently Skrts is feeling ill?!?, heard somewhere, believe it was Jürgen's presser. So we're also down to our final 2 senior CBs. Really need to get qualified tonight so we can have a rest in the final game of this league phase.

      I think that team should win tonight and I'm really looking forward to it, just hope we can get a few goals ahead and perhaps rest the likes of Lucas/Firmino/Clyne but I suspect it'll be much tighter than that.

      It's nice to see us taking the competition seriously though, it's got a wonderful prize at the end of it and I've got a feeling we might just surprise one or two in it.
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      Reply #56: Nov 26, 2015 01:47:47 pm
      Anfield here we come !!! Were on the march were Jurgens Army !! Come on you mighty Reds !! We'll be coming, we'll be coming down the road when you hear the noise of the Bill Shankly boys !!

      I'm a little excited  ;D

      Enjoy the game everyone...be back about 2am  xxxxx:action-smiley-065:
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #57: Nov 26, 2015 02:23:26 pm
      Great op Kopite91. Let's hope Poko starts for them than.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #58: Nov 26, 2015 02:42:52 pm
      Decent team although surprised to see Bogdan not getting the nod to be honest.

      Apparently Skrts is feeling ill?!?, heard somewhere, believe it was Jürgen's presser. So we're also down to our final 2 senior CBs. Really need to get qualified tonight so we can have a rest in the final game of this league phase.

      I think that team should win tonight and I'm really looking forward to it, just hope we can get a few goals ahead and perhaps rest the likes of Lucas/Firmino/Clyne but I suspect it'll be much tighter than that.

      It's nice to see us taking the competition seriously though, it's got a wonderful prize at the end of it and I've got a feeling we might just surprise one or two in it.

      More surprised or disappointed mate? I'm not surprised in the slightest in all honesty.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #59: Nov 26, 2015 03:07:43 pm
      More surprised or disappointed mate? I'm not surprised in the slightest in all honesty.

      Yeah fair to say there's disappointment in there too mate, I think he could quite easily challenge Migs for that starting position judged on his previous showing.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #60: Nov 26, 2015 03:29:59 pm
      Pumped for this one. Hope Allen steps up after his awful displays the last two times he had a run.

      Interested to see where Firmino operates. Probably left side and cut in like Coutinho was doing against City.

      Either way, hoping Skrtel is fit for the game on the weekend and we get the job done with a win.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #61: Nov 26, 2015 03:50:02 pm
      Don't finish work till 8:30  :mad:
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      Reply #62: Nov 26, 2015 04:17:30 pm

      It's just a badge... I don't even care what ours looks like...
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #63: Nov 26, 2015 04:23:28 pm
      Yeah fair to say there's disappointment in there too mate, I think he could quite easily challenge Migs for that starting position judged on his previous showing.

      Do you think Jürgen wants to look at Mignolet more ? parts of his game stink ie anytime he needs to kick a ball.
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      Reply #64: Nov 26, 2015 05:03:47 pm
      good platform for Allen to showcase for Klopp.

      Best case scenario is Sturridge staying on the bench for health reasons.

      Really want to see Ibe get some time as well. Has had some showcases of class when he's been on the pitch. And obviously Klopp is a huge fan.

      3-1 LFC (Benteke, Ibe, Lallana)
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #65: Nov 26, 2015 05:29:14 pm
      Hi guys, anyone know of a decent stream for the game tonight?
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #66: Nov 26, 2015 05:48:52 pm
      Looking forward to this, think we'll get a very good result tonight.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #67: Nov 26, 2015 05:52:04 pm
      Do you think Jürgen wants to look at Mignolet more ? parts of his game stink ie anytime he needs to kick a ball.

      Really don't know Walt, can only assume that Migs looks the best in training to be honest mate or Jürgen is trying see Migs progress with the coaching he's been given. Keepers are a strange breed that confidence is such an over-riding component that seems to effect them even more than outfield players so it could just be that he doesn't want to rock the boat until he feels the choice is obvious. All this is second guessing right now but as I said I'm disappointed Bogdan doesn't seem to be starting.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #68: Nov 26, 2015 05:54:34 pm
      Hope to see Sturridge get 20 mins. I think he will thrive in Klopps system. He will be banging in goals for fun if he stays fit of course.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #69: Nov 26, 2015 06:04:05 pm
      Rubin just beat Sion 2-0 which means if we win then we top the group with 1 game left.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #70: Nov 26, 2015 06:16:06 pm
      Gone for a 2  1 win in the prediction league, although have a feeling the margin could be far wider !
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #71: Nov 26, 2015 06:41:37 pm
      We will win by a 2 goal margin, but then again I predicted a 4-0 win over Palace ...........
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #72: Nov 26, 2015 06:47:15 pm
      Should be a different story though against Bordeaux.  Just hope they don't park the proverbial public transport vehicle or it'll be a long night! Congratulations on your 500th post buddy! ;)

      Any news on streams for tonight, folks?
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #73: Nov 26, 2015 06:49:19 pm
      Rubin Kazan 2:0 FC Sion

      Win tonight puts us in the driving position.
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      Re: Pre Match: Liverpool V Bordeaux - 26/11 - 20:05 ko
      Reply #74: Nov 26, 2015 06:50:03 pm
      Should be a different story though against Bordeaux.  Just hope they don't park the proverbial public transport vehicle or it'll be a long night! Congratulations on your 500th post buddy! ;)

      Any news on streams for tonight, folks?

      If we manage to score in less than 30 minutes, then it'll be a very easy game.
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