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      The Summer Clearout and Rebuilding the Squad

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      bazspeedman
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      Re: The Summer Clearout and Rebuilding the Squad
      Reply #69: Feb 06, 2016 06:49:11 pm
      Top priorities

      Goalkeeper, midfielder and striker



      Plus two centre backs, a left back, a defensive midfielder, and a winger.
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      Re: The Summer Clearout and Rebuilding the Squad
      Reply #70: Feb 06, 2016 07:15:01 pm
      Top priorities

      Goalkeeper, midfielder and striker



      Saying it for months .
      Spine.
      Arab Scouse
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      Re: The Summer Clearout and Rebuilding the Squad
      Reply #71: Feb 06, 2016 07:41:58 pm
      Hopefully we sign Xhaka, and add Ter Stegen.

      two players who will improve our side tremendously.
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      Re: The Summer Clearout and Rebuilding the Squad
      Reply #72: Feb 06, 2016 07:49:40 pm
      Top priorities

      Goalkeeper, midfielder and striker



      Add a top quality winger to those and we are set. We need width and Clyne and Moreno just aren't up to giving it to us. Milner when he does go wide does give us some, but he was never a player to beat his man and hit crosses from the dead ball line or cut inside and score.
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      Reply #73: Feb 06, 2016 07:54:25 pm
      Add a top quality winger to those and we are set. We need width and Clyne and Moreno just aren't up to giving it to us. Milner when he does go wide does give us some, but he was never a player to beat his man and hit crosses from the dead ball line or cut inside and score.

      We also need a dominant defender, someone who can play with Sakho.
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      Re: The Summer Clearout and Rebuilding the Squad
      Reply #74: Feb 06, 2016 08:26:48 pm
      We also need a dominant defender, someone who can play with Sakho.

      Sakho is sh*te never in a million years is he part of our future if that future includes success
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      Re: The Summer Clearout and Rebuilding the Squad
      Reply #75: Feb 06, 2016 08:47:07 pm
      Just gotta hope that we can a) find a buyer for most of our sh*te and b) hope they haven't gotten tips from Fabio Borini.

      I'd say send Ayre over to china to flog some of our sh*te to them but he'd probably sell F**k all and come back with Ling Ling the f***in Panda for 35 million pounds.
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      Re: The Summer Clearout and Rebuilding the Squad
      Reply #76: Feb 06, 2016 09:03:55 pm
      Jürgen needs 4 years to take us where we want to go , TBH   I`d struggle to keep 5 out of our entire squad .
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      Reply #77: Feb 06, 2016 09:05:05 pm
      Jürgen needs 4 years to take us where we want to go , TBH   I`d struggle to keep 5 out of our entire squad .

      we need a plan that will see us progress and if it takes four years then so be it
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      Reply #78: Feb 06, 2016 09:07:46 pm
      Jürgen needs 4 years to take us where we want to go , TBH   I`d struggle to keep 5 out of our entire squad .

      We need Klopp to be our Wenger, change the philosophy of the club for the better, bring in real talent not frauds, and stay here for the long term.
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      Reply #79: Feb 06, 2016 10:56:41 pm
      Just shown on motd that Leicesters team today cost £22m. Seriously  £22m

      Money Is not everything, it's about spending it wisely and having players who would run through brick walls for the fans
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      Reply #80: Feb 06, 2016 10:58:11 pm
      Just shown on motd that Leicesters team today cost £22m. Seriously  £22m

      Money Is not everything, it's about spending it wisely and having players who would run brick walls for the fans

      it does blow massive holes in a lot of theories about wage bills and league position. we have the manager now we need the team
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      Reply #81: Feb 06, 2016 11:00:31 pm
      Just shown on motd that Leicesters team today cost £22m. Seriously  £22m

      Money Is not everything, it's about spending it wisely and having players who would run through brick walls for the fans

      I agree but can you imagine the fury on here this summer if we spend £20M on players?

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      Reply #82: Feb 06, 2016 11:32:39 pm
      Firmino for potential
      Cou is already starting to show his class
      Stu if he could stay fit, ehich is a long shot

      The rest are average at best, and yes im including Henderson. On his best games hes good, not great. Great techique and hair thou
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      Reply #83: Feb 07, 2016 12:31:43 am
      I agree but can you imagine the fury on here this summer if we spend £20M on players?



      There are talents out there if you find them.

      Mahrez - cost £325k
      Coleman - cost £60k
      Ali - cost £5m. Lots of money but he was playing for a League One team

      The players were very much unheard off and not playing high quality football.
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      Reply #84: Feb 07, 2016 12:34:38 am
      There are talents out there if you find them.

      Mahrez - cost £325k
      Coleman - cost £60k
      Ali - cost £5m. Lots of money but he was playing for a League One team

      The players were very much unheard off and not playing high quality football.


      Like I said mate I agree.
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      Reply #85: Feb 07, 2016 12:43:51 am
      Just shown on motd that Leicesters team today cost £22m. Seriously  £22m

      Money Is not everything, it's about spending it wisely and having players who would run through brick walls for the fans

      it does blow massive holes in a lot of theories about wage bills and league position. we have the manager now we need the team

      Leicester's two best players, Mahrez and Vardy, both were very average last season. There's not a chance in hell our supporters would ever be patient with players. Benteke has already scored more goals than Vardy did last season and he's getting all kinds of abuse. We've seen Henderson abused, Can and Moreno are currently getting all sorts, Lucas was given horrible treatment, etc. In this thread alone there are people actually advocating that we sell our entire squad, bar two or three. It's great saying that Leicester buy smartly, but they have persisted with the likes of Mahrez and Vardy despite them not being anything special for them. We're not in a position to do that because the moment that we aren't having consistent results, our supporters are at our players throats wanting to kill them and thinking they all should be sold.

      By the way, put any of Leicester's players in our team and they wouldn't have the impact that they are having at Leicester. There's a completely different level of pressure that comes with playing for us and it is much more difficult to play for us than it is them. As well as that, teams wouldn't let us set up like Leicester do.

      There are talents out there if you find them.

      Mahrez - cost £325k
      Coleman - cost £60k
      Ali - cost £5m. Lots of money but he was playing for a League One team

      The players were very much unheard off and not playing high quality football.


      Surely the counterargument to those is Joey Gomez?
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      Reply #86: Feb 07, 2016 12:47:50 am
      Add a top quality winger to those and we are set. We need width and Clyne and Moreno just aren't up to giving it to us. Milner when he does go wide does give us some, but he was never a player to beat his man and hit crosses from the dead ball line or cut inside and score.

      Agreed. And we should be looking at spending a decent amount on each of those positions. I have faith that FSG will end up backing Klopp this summer.

      Disagree about your point about width. I think it's pace and end product that we need. One of our problems is that Clyne and Moreno are the only pace that we have in the side. Clyne and Moreno I think are both quite good and they'd look even better with a bit more movement and pace ahead of them.
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      Reply #87: Feb 07, 2016 01:00:08 am

      It's like you said though Si...if we spent an average on say £8 million for each player 1/2 this forum would literally implode before they had ever kicked a ball.

      If however:

      We spend £30 million on a player and he does not hit the ground running by the end of the 1st month of league action more than likely 1/2 this forum will implode for overspending on sh*t.

      Curiously both groups will contain some of the exact same posters.

      bi*ch and moan for wasting money on Lovren & Sahko and point to Huth at Leicester City and say "Fantastic player for only £5 million...those same people would have sh*t themselves and cursed to high heaven if we had signed Huth from Stoke citing lack of ambition.
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      Reply #88: Feb 07, 2016 01:13:16 am
      It's like you said though Si...if we spent an average on say £8 million for each player 1/2 this forum would literally implode before they had ever kicked a ball.

      If however:

      We spend £30 million on a player and he does not hit the ground running by the end of the 1st month of league action more than likely 1/2 this forum will implode for overspending on sh*t.

      Curiously both groups will contain some of the exact same posters.

      bi*ch and moan for wasting money on Lovren & Sahko and point to Huth at Leicester City and say "Fantastic player for only £5 million...those same people would have sh*t themselves and cursed to high heaven if we had signed Huth from Stoke citing lack of ambition.

      Huth and Morgan are nothing more than workman like defenders but they do the basics well. However what they get unlike our defenders is great protection from the midfielders .

      Let's face it Lucas has been sh*te since his last ACL, Can couldn't track a defender if his life depended on it, Henderson and Milner have always thought they they are attacking mids ( obviously in their in minds).
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      Reply #89: Feb 07, 2016 07:18:27 am
      It's like you said though Si...if we spent an average on say £8 million for each player 1/2 this forum would literally implode before they had ever kicked a ball.

      If however:

      We spend £30 million on a player and he does not hit the ground running by the end of the 1st month of league action more than likely 1/2 this forum will implode for overspending on sh*t.

      Curiously both groups will contain some of the exact same posters.

      bi*ch and moan for wasting money on Lovren & Sahko and point to Huth at Leicester City and say "Fantastic player for only £5 million...those same people would have sh*t themselves and cursed to high heaven if we had signed Huth from Stoke citing lack of ambition.

      I disagree mate, people only moan when the players aren't good enough. I don't remember anyone moaning when we bought Gomez or Ings or more recently Grujic.

      They may well moan if the players prove not to be good enough, but people moan at the quality of players bought not because they are cheap.

      Coutinho cost us £8million or so, hear anyone complaining about us buying him?

      Find me a Lionel Messi for under £10million and I don't think you would get many people moaning about his price either. :)

      If anything people tend to moan when we pay over the odds for very average players, not when we buy good players cheap.

      If you expect people to jump up and down with excitement when a Shane Long is bought that is another matter. We have all seen him play, know his limitations and know he is not the answer to our prayers. Which is very different to buying a top quality player for a similar price if we could get one.

      Fill your squad with mediocre players and then you find you have no room left to buy the quality you need to progress.

       


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      Reply #90: Feb 07, 2016 10:44:39 am
      Sakho is sh*te never in a million years is he part of our future if that future includes success

      He has been poor since return from Injury but thought he was doing well before that. Agree he is not Top class but worth keeping as one of the 3/4 CB
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      Re: The Summer Clearout and Rebuilding the Squad
      Reply #91: Feb 07, 2016 11:04:57 am
      Just been looking at the toffees squad, and pains me to say but prob only Coutinho is good enough to get in there team at the moment, and Sturridge if it was two up top, never thought I'd see the day, sad times, and major changes needed, starting with the scouting and recruitment policy.

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