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      Pep is over-rated
      Feb 03, 2016 05:51:42 pm
      I don't understand the clamoring for Pep.  Yes, he'll win 3 Bundesliga titles, but even I could manage that team in that league to 3 titles.  He still hasn't won what they real want, the CL.  Yes, he won a lot at Barcelona, but so did Enrique (winning the treble in his first year).  Plus, he had Xavi and Iniesta in their primes, which made Spain practically invincible for 3 straight major tournaments.  And obviously, he also had the best player ever in addition to those two, which probably means he had 3 of the 5 best players in the world at the time.  I would argue that he's led a charmed life being with the right club at the right time.  I think a lot of managers could have achieved what he's done with the clubs that he's had.  I might lose a lot of credibility with this, but I'm not sure that BR would not have done better.

      That all being said, he's still a huge upgrade to Pelligrini.
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      Reply #1: Feb 04, 2016 11:30:22 am
      Good players make good teams and good managers make them win games.

      If it were easy, Martino would've done it as well.
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      Reply #3: Feb 04, 2016 04:28:34 pm
      I wouldn't say he is over rated as such because it's clear he is a top manager but I would say he is yet to be tested. Barca he already had by far the best team in the league that Rijkard had started putting together. Bayern he is with by far the best team in the league. City will be a challenge, they have stars like Aguero, Kompany, Silva and KDB but other than that they aren't special. The likes of Navas, Mangala etc. He will be in for his biggest challenge yet.
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      Reply #4: Feb 04, 2016 05:36:05 pm
      It's my understanding that for someone or something to be overrated, that thing has to deliver less than expected results.

      Has Pep not delivered top results? Am I missing something?
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      Reply #5: Feb 04, 2016 05:55:09 pm
      Maybe the real question would be "What could Pep do with LFC?"  My guess is he wouldn't be doing any better than Klopp, which means he wouldn't be doing much better than BR.
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      Reply #6: Feb 04, 2016 06:14:11 pm
      I wouldn't say Pep is overrated as such, I think he's fantastic, but I would have liked to see him take over a side that doesn't have endless supplies of cash. At Barcelona, he struck gold with the greatest generation of players ever produced by an academy. After that he inherited the only treble-winning side in German football history in Bayern Munich. Both of those clubs are among the world's best clubs who have no trouble recruiting top talent (in terms of both prestige and wages).

      City, however, despite the cash stock, is a different animal. I think he's in for something of a challenge, and it will be interesting to see how it plays out for Pep in the Premier League. Just be grateful he didn't take the reins at United because there's no denying he is a top manager.
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      Reply #7: Feb 04, 2016 07:05:59 pm
      It's my understanding that for someone or something to be overrated, that thing has to deliver less than expected results.

      Has Pep not delivered top results? Am I missing something?

      Am I right in saying Pep has been relatively criticised at Bayern? For only winning the league and Super Cup whilst losing to Dortmund in the German Cup Final, where as Heynckes had a clean sweep the season before? Then losing to Dortmund again the following season and having failed to win the Champions League so far with them.

      So in terms of the Bayern fans they will probably feel he has underachieved and could therefore be over rated.

      now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is the case, just a possibility.

      But I am confident he will suffer defeats a lot more often then what he has done as a manger so far so it will be testing for him like.
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      Reply #8: Feb 04, 2016 08:17:40 pm
      It's my understanding that for someone or something to be overrated, that thing has to deliver less than expected results.

      Has Pep not delivered top results? Am I missing something?

      I don't think you are.

      The best managers usually land the top jobs and Guardiola is undoubtedly one of those.

      That said, I don't necessarily envisage complete domination in the same vein as before once he joins Man City.

      Although he will still inherit probably the best squad in the league and have no shortage of funds, ours is a much more competitive league than either Liga or the Bundesliga.
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      Reply #9: Feb 04, 2016 11:51:02 pm
      He's excellent. The idea that he inherited a brilliant Barcelona side is a myth. He also, by all accounts, did sterling work as the Barcelona B manager.

      I wouldn't say he is over rated as such because it's clear he is a top manager but I would say he is yet to be tested. Barca he already had by far the best team in the league that Rijkard had started putting together. Bayern he is with by far the best team in the league. City will be a challenge, they have stars like Aguero, Kompany, Silva and KDB but other than that they aren't special. The likes of Navas, Mangala etc. He will be in for his biggest challenge yet.

      They finished 3rd the season he took over at Barcelona and he had to do quite a big rebuilding job.
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      Reply #10: Feb 05, 2016 12:10:03 am
      He's excellent. The idea that he inherited a brilliant Barcelona side is a myth. He also, by all accounts, did sterling work as the Barcelona B manager.

      They finished 3rd the season he took over at Barcelona and he had to do quite a big rebuilding job.

      He inherited the likes of Puyol, Abidal, Iniesta, Xavi, Deco, Yaya Toure Ronaldinho, Henry, Eto'o and Messi. That team was always more than capable of winning the league but the fact he sold Deco, Ronaldinho and Eto'o that summer made things a bit harder IMO.

      I'm not doubting his ability so don't try to make it sound as though I am but he inherited a top side at Barca but then just happened to go on and make them even better.
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      Reply #11: Feb 05, 2016 02:10:12 pm
      Maybe the real question would be "What could Pep do with LFC?"  My guess is he wouldn't be doing any better than Klopp, which means he wouldn't be doing much better than BR.

      Hahahahaha dickhead!!

      Trying to compare the fraud with Klopp or Pep, on one divvy.
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      Reply #12: Feb 05, 2016 06:18:11 pm
      Hahahahaha dickhead!!

      Trying to compare the fraud with Klopp or Pep, on one divvy.

      He's the dickhead? Is it him or you that calls Rodgers "the fraud"?
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      Reply #13: Feb 05, 2016 08:10:30 pm
      The man has won more trophies than he has tasted defeat in league competition.

      17 trophies in 5 years, 15 league losses in 5 years. To say he's overrated is bizarre, how can judge him based on things he's never done? He's done as well as he could have in the roles he's had. He'll make City a real team but it'll be his biggest challenge yet.
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      Reply #14: Feb 05, 2016 09:32:37 pm
      You can only judge a manager on his successes...and Peps had plenty of it.

      Sure if he had replaced Rodgers everyone would of been spanking through the kleenex.

      I did read ibrahimovic''s book though and he F***ing hates him but suppose that opinion depends on what you think of Zlatan.
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      Reply #15: Feb 06, 2016 11:30:14 am
      he has won something like 60% of the competitions he has entered to suggest he is over rated is crazy.
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      Reply #16: Feb 06, 2016 01:10:55 pm
      Is he over rated no he has gone and achieved at 2 massive clubs.  But this is the hardest League in the world.  This is his biggest test if he fails he will lose that label as the hottest manager in the world.  This is where be will be found out.  The task is hard because he has come with a big bang as the best manager in the world a contract that is the highest amongst managers and players, so people expecting big things.   Mourninho has done well and when he come people were sceptical,Bobby Robson a manager he worked with didn't give him much of a chance. 

      Whatever happens he will have to accept that there will be many more defeats on his CV.  But it all comes down to winning big trophies.   If Pelegrini wins the league that will pile the pressure.   I know some will say but that happened in Germany, but this is different. 
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      Reply #17: Feb 06, 2016 11:50:21 pm
      He's not over rated, far from it as he has proven to be one of the worlds best coaches but I do agree with a few comments that he has still to be properly tested and I think City is that test.

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      Reply #18: Feb 07, 2016 02:08:20 am
      I wouldn't say he is over rated as such because it's clear he is a top manager but I would say he is yet to be tested. Barca he already had by far the best team in the league that Rijkard had started putting together. Bayern he is with by far the best team in the league. City will be a challenge, they have stars like Aguero, Kompany, Silva and KDB but other than that they aren't special. The likes of Navas, Mangala etc. He will be in for his biggest challenge yet.

      Agreed. He is talented, but he needs everything to be in place for him to shine. Man City and there big money will help BUT look at this season, we have 20 teams in this league, and every single one of them give a game.

      He wont find this challenge as easy.
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      Reply #19: Feb 07, 2016 02:53:27 am
      I did read ibrahimovic''s book though and he F***ing hates him but suppose that opinion depends on what you think of Zlatan.

      Might have something to do with Pep binning the egotistical tw*t off as soon as he got the job at Barca.
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      Reply #20: Feb 07, 2016 06:40:03 am
      He's not over rated, far from it as he has proven to be one of the worlds best coaches but I do agree with a few comments that he has still to be properly tested and I think City is that test.


      I don't agree with city being a test. If Ranieri wins the league with Leicester this season, he won't be seen as a great manager. It will be a fluke, an amazing story whatever but he will not be viewed as a great manager.,

      Guardiola won with a team designed 20 years ago by Cruyff. With Messi and la Masia coming into its prime.
      Tito Villanova won the league from hospital. Enrique has won the triple in his first season and could do it twice in a row, with Suarez, Neymar and Messi.

      Bayern munich won the trouble before he got there. They bought the players he wanted. He was showered with resources. Has he exceeded expectations?

      City is a big test???? Please explain that one to me. Leicester would be a test. We would be a test. F***ing city!! The world has become completely skewed.

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      Reply #21: Feb 07, 2016 07:18:37 pm
      He's the dickhead? Is it him or you that calls Rodgers "the fraud"?

      you really are on message you aren't you has any one told you Brendan was fired.
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      Reply #22: Feb 07, 2016 07:24:23 pm
      So Pep, what attracted you to the multi billionaires of Manchester City?
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      Reply #23: Feb 07, 2016 07:51:38 pm
      He's the dickhead? Is it him or you that calls Rodgers "the fraud"?

      Oh I'm sorry for offending the championship play-off winning genius

      Nah you're the dickhead for being a pedantic c**t with no sense of F***ing humour. Why do you bother becoming a Liverpool fan, you miserable F***ing w**ker.
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      Reply #24: Feb 07, 2016 08:02:28 pm
      He's the dickhead? Is it him or you that calls Rodgers "the fraud"?

      Well Rodgers is a fraud so what's your point?
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      Reply #25: Feb 07, 2016 10:18:27 pm
      Well Rodgers is a fraud so what's your point?


      More to the point. What's Rodgers got to do with this topic?...

       :ontopic:
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      Reply #26: Feb 09, 2016 11:10:14 am
      I don't understand the clamoring for Pep.  Yes, he'll win 3 Bundesliga titles, but even I could manage that team in that league to 3 titles.  He still hasn't won what they real want, the CL.  Yes, he won a lot at Barcelona, but so did Enrique (winning the treble in his first year).  Plus, he had Xavi and Iniesta in their primes, which made Spain practically invincible for 3 straight major tournaments.  And obviously, he also had the best player ever in addition to those two, which probably means he had 3 of the 5 best players in the world at the time.  I would argue that he's led a charmed life being with the right club at the right time.  I think a lot of managers could have achieved what he's done with the clubs that he's had.  I might lose a lot of credibility with this, but I'm not sure that BR would not have done better.

      That all being said, he's still a huge upgrade to Pelligrini.

      He arrived at Barca when the club was in disarray, he reinvented Xavi, Iniesta and Messi (just look in their interviews and they all said the same thing, that Pep really changed their role in the team and that helped them alot), brought up the likes of Pique (who was a bench warmer at Utd- bought him for 5 mil), Busquets (while having the guts to get rid of Yaya, who was the best DM in the game at that time, let alone selling Ronaldinho who had a negative influence in the dressing room and Eto'o, also sold Ibrahimovic, because he changed Messi role to a striker), Jordi Alba, Pedro and so on. He changed Barca, improving everything about the club. He even developed a philosphy and style of playing which helped Spain win on International level, they relied on the same gameplan as Barca. You could add to his honours the World Cup and European Championship. Barca was in a poor state, left by Rijkaard. There is a ton of proof where managers failed to win trophies while having great players in their team, just look at Real Madrid or England on international level, to give you some quick responses. Even Inter when Moratti was investing heavily and they waited over 15 years for a title. Don't forget about Martino failing to win a trophy with basically the same team. Even Vilanova struggled with it.

      At Bayern he had so far a terrible curse where almost all of his important players were injured before crucial UCL-games.

      He is not at all overrated, he is one of the best managers in the history of the game.
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      Reply #27: Feb 09, 2016 02:41:53 pm
      He is not at all overrated, he is one of the best managers in the history of the game.

      He's no Bob Paisley like, but he's a good manager nonetheless.

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      Reply #28: Feb 09, 2016 04:07:47 pm
      He is a very good manager but a great, I'll reserve judgement on that one. Personally to be a great I think you have to have built a team up to become champions not inherit the players and tinker a bit as Pep has done. Managers in the great category are Shankly, Ferguson(yes a c**t but also undoubtedly a great manager) and probably Wenger. I don't include Maureen in the list because when for the first time in his career the going got tough he didn't have an answer and got found out plus he is a complete and utter w@nker.
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      Reply #29: Feb 10, 2016 10:36:13 pm
      Personally I admire the great (Fat) Sam Allerdici, who seamlessly fused football and rugby.
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      Reply #30: Feb 12, 2016 12:47:16 pm
      Would settle for that level of success any day, overrated my arse
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      Reply #31: Feb 12, 2016 09:41:21 pm
      Well we will soon find out how good he is, something odd about City, the should be better than the are
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      Reply #32: Feb 17, 2016 12:24:58 pm
      He will need a lot of money to spend! Squad is aging, players like Silva and Yaya are not the same! He can attract the best however he will be gone within 2-3 years of being at the club. Rather look to the future like we have with Klopp :))
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      Reply #33: Mar 11, 2016 01:35:07 pm
      i saw an interview with Peter Schmeicel who said he didn't want Pep at utd as he brings a boring type of play!!
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      Reply #34: Mar 14, 2016 01:48:15 am
      As George says I think it is forgotten the shambles he walked into at Barca and in a few years he had achieved everything and coined a way of playing that will be talked about 50 years from now.
      I think he'll take a look at this league, conclude its teams are sh*t and build a side that will blow us all away. Like at Bayern his challenge will be what he can do in Europe
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      Reply #35: Mar 14, 2016 02:42:18 am
      i saw an interview with Peter Schmeicel who said he didn't want Pep at utd as he brings a boring type of play!!

      I'd have to agree with him tbh., It is boring, even when he was at Barca they were boring to watch, but I would take possession football over any other styles simply because I'd love us to dominate :)
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      Reply #36: Mar 14, 2016 05:54:59 am
      i saw an interview with Peter Schmeicel who said he didn't want Pep at utd as he brings a boring type of play!!

      Schmeichel also said Newcastle would be better off with Nigel Pearson rather than Rafa Benitez.

      Funny isn't he? The pure bell.
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      Reply #37: Mar 14, 2016 07:49:53 am
      I'd have to agree with him tbh., It is boring, even when he was at Barca they were boring to watch, but I would take possession football over any other styles simply because I'd love us to dominate :)


      i know it's a personal choice but boring ?, really ? Never understood that point of you but to use the old cliche it's a game of opinions.
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      Reply #38: Mar 14, 2016 11:14:06 am
      Schmeichel also said Newcastle would be better off with Nigel Pearson rather than Rafa Benitez.

      Funny isn't he? The pure bell.

      To be fair Pearson is a proven winner, what has Rafa ever won ?




      :)

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      Someone is not happy. :)

      Pep Guardiola Says Mole Damaging Bayern Munich

      Bayern Munich manager Pep Guardiola thinks leaks from the dressing room have hampered his spell at the club, with rumours swirling about tension between the coach and his medical staff.

      Guardiola will leave the German champions after three years at the end of the campaign, with Manchester City and the Premier League next up for him.

      According to Bild (h/t the Press Association, via the Guardian), there have been some heated exchanges between himself and the physiotherapists behind the scenes.

      When quizzed about these alleged disagreements, Guardiola inferred there is a mole in his camp feeding stories to the media:

      "Usually what happens inside the dressing room remains inside the dressing room. Whoever has spoken has done it to hit me. But I’m not here next season anyway so it’s not my problem, but Bayern’s. It’s happened plenty of times over these past three years.

      It’s normal for me to talk to my players and staff and give them my opinion, but there are people here who are talking because they want to hurt me. Maybe this person will still be here next season and clearly they haven’t realised that they are not damaging me, but the club and the team. I won’t be here, so it’s the club’s problem."

      The report from Bild stated Guardiola “nearly came to blows with his physios” recently due to their inability to get players fit quick enough.

      One of his main bugbears is said to be centred on the fact Atletico Madrid, who knocked his team out in the UEFA Champions League semi-final on Tuesday, were able to get star centre-back Diego Godin fit enough for the second leg of the tie, while Bayern winger Arjen Robben continues to suffer with niggling injury issues.

      Sport Witness, commenting on the story from Bild, added some background to the report, noting how the departure of Dr Hans-Wilhelm Muller-Wohlfahrt and three members of his staff last year due to a row has influenced matters:

      Guardiola was speaking on Friday ahead of Bayern’s clash with Ingolstadt, a match in which they can secure the title—the third in as many years since the former Barcelona man joined—with three points.

      While that’s an impressive haul, many have written off Guardiola’s stint at the club as a failure due to his inability to secure the Champions League. That also annoyed the coach.

      “I’ve done my best here,” he said. “But if you say that I had to win the Champions League, then I have failed. Go ahead and write that I have failed.”

      I'm really curious how he will manage City.
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      Someone is not happy. :)

      Pep Guardiola Says Mole Damaging Bayern Munich

      Bayern Munich manager Pep Guardiola thinks leaks from the dressing room have hampered his spell at the club, with rumours swirling about tension between the coach and his medical staff.

      Guardiola will leave the German champions after three years at the end of the campaign, with Manchester City and the Premier League next up for him.

      According to Bild (h/t the Press Association, via the Guardian), there have been some heated exchanges between himself and the physiotherapists behind the scenes.

      When quizzed about these alleged disagreements, Guardiola inferred there is a mole in his camp feeding stories to the media:

      "Usually what happens inside the dressing room remains inside the dressing room. Whoever has spoken has done it to hit me. But I’m not here next season anyway so it’s not my problem, but Bayern’s. It’s happened plenty of times over these past three years.

      It’s normal for me to talk to my players and staff and give them my opinion, but there are people here who are talking because they want to hurt me. Maybe this person will still be here next season and clearly they haven’t realised that they are not damaging me, but the club and the team. I won’t be here, so it’s the club’s problem."

      The report from Bild stated Guardiola “nearly came to blows with his physios” recently due to their inability to get players fit quick enough.

      One of his main bugbears is said to be centred on the fact Atletico Madrid, who knocked his team out in the UEFA Champions League semi-final on Tuesday, were able to get star centre-back Diego Godin fit enough for the second leg of the tie, while Bayern winger Arjen Robben continues to suffer with niggling injury issues.

      Sport Witness, commenting on the story from Bild, added some background to the report, noting how the departure of Dr Hans-Wilhelm Muller-Wohlfahrt and three members of his staff last year due to a row has influenced matters:

      Guardiola was speaking on Friday ahead of Bayern’s clash with Ingolstadt, a match in which they can secure the title—the third in as many years since the former Barcelona man joined—with three points.

      While that’s an impressive haul, many have written off Guardiola’s stint at the club as a failure due to his inability to secure the Champions League. That also annoyed the coach.

      “I’ve done my best here,” he said. “But if you say that I had to win the Champions League, then I have failed. Go ahead and write that I have failed.”

      I'm really curious how he will manage City.

      Guardiola, you've failed! :)
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      Reply #41: May 06, 2016 08:37:52 pm
      Pep is not over-rated. Yes, he had top quality players but he sure do know how to use his tools when it comes to dominating s match in line with his philosophy. You only lay a champions league target on a proven quality coach even if he ends up not meeting it.
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      Reply #42: May 06, 2016 08:41:18 pm
      Any manager (or player) who hasn't done it in the EPL is somewhat overrated in my eyes.

      Pep is gonna struggle at city at least for one season. I still think he's gonna get them top 4 though.
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      Re: Pep is over-rated
      Reply #43: May 06, 2016 08:41:47 pm
      Someone is not happy. :)

      Pep Guardiola Says Mole Damaging Bayern Munich

      Bayern Munich manager Pep Guardiola thinks leaks from the dressing room have hampered his spell at the club, with rumours swirling about tension between the coach and his medical staff.

      Guardiola will leave the German champions after three years at the end of the campaign, with Manchester City and the Premier League next up for him.

      According to Bild (h/t the Press Association, via the Guardian), there have been some heated exchanges between himself and the physiotherapists behind the scenes.

      When quizzed about these alleged disagreements, Guardiola inferred there is a mole in his camp feeding stories to the media:

      "Usually what happens inside the dressing room remains inside the dressing room. Whoever has spoken has done it to hit me. But I’m not here next season anyway so it’s not my problem, but Bayern’s. It’s happened plenty of times over these past three years.

      It’s normal for me to talk to my players and staff and give them my opinion, but there are people here who are talking because they want to hurt me. Maybe this person will still be here next season and clearly they haven’t realised that they are not damaging me, but the club and the team. I won’t be here, so it’s the club’s problem."

      The report from Bild stated Guardiola “nearly came to blows with his physios” recently due to their inability to get players fit quick enough.

      One of his main bugbears is said to be centred on the fact Atletico Madrid, who knocked his team out in the UEFA Champions League semi-final on Tuesday, were able to get star centre-back Diego Godin fit enough for the second leg of the tie, while Bayern winger Arjen Robben continues to suffer with niggling injury issues.

      Sport Witness, commenting on the story from Bild, added some background to the report, noting how the departure of Dr Hans-Wilhelm Muller-Wohlfahrt and three members of his staff last year due to a row has influenced matters:

      Guardiola was speaking on Friday ahead of Bayern’s clash with Ingolstadt, a match in which they can secure the title—the third in as many years since the former Barcelona man joined—with three points.

      While that’s an impressive haul, many have written off Guardiola’s stint at the club as a failure due to his inability to secure the Champions League. That also annoyed the coach.

      “I’ve done my best here,” he said. “But if you say that I had to win the Champions League, then I have failed. Go ahead and write that I have failed.”

      I'm really curious how he will manage City.

      Said it before but the man is a Grade A C*NT. That moment last year where he sarcastically applauded a long serving Bayern doctor for an on field injury and then proceeded to have him sacked confirmed to me what a nasty little piece of work this man is. Very successful manager but a very very sad man who takes life football too seriously. I hope Klopp shafts him all over the place.
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      Re: Pep is over-rated
      Reply #44: May 06, 2016 08:59:04 pm
      Said it before but the man is a Grade A C*NT. That moment last year where he sarcastically applauded a long serving Bayern doctor for an on field injury and then proceeded to have him sacked confirmed to me what a nasty little piece of work this man is. Very successful manager but a very very sad man who takes life football too seriously. I hope Klopp shafts him all over the place.


      I don't like how he deals with some of his players infront of the crowd either. Kimmich had great game against Dortmund in a 0-0 draw a month or so ago, he was arguably the best player on the bench yet Guardiola went F***ing mental at him.
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      Re: Pep is over-rated
      Reply #45: May 06, 2016 09:06:03 pm
      Said it before but the man is a Grade A C*NT. That moment last year where he sarcastically applauded a long serving Bayern doctor for an on field injury and then proceeded to have him sacked confirmed to me what a nasty little piece of work this man is. Very successful manager but a very very sad man who takes life football too seriously. I hope Klopp shafts him all over the place.

      Yes, and he blamed medical staff for Porto away loss last year.  :roll:

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