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      Jimsouse67
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      Re: Walkout 77'!
      Reply #69: Feb 07, 2016 12:45:05 pm
      Most fans wouldn't know business if it bit them on the arse... They dream of a team of superstars yet don't want to pay the price. You can't have the moon on a stick and it can't be f**king Christmas every day.

      We lost two valuable points yesterday because the fans deemed it acceptable in mass to make a point.. I'll pay £77 in fact I'll pay a £100 if it gets me in Anfield because for too long the tickets have gone to unappreciative living in the past lifeless fans.

      I expect you all to disagree with this, and I'm sorry but it's the truth.

      Anfield has no atmosphere because the real fans rarely raise their voice when it matters. FACT


      Put 'Jesus' in front of your username
      And they were the two words that came to my mind when I read your post along with WTF
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      Reply #70: Feb 07, 2016 12:48:08 pm
      Anfield has no atmosphere because the real fans rarely raise their voice when it matters. FACT

      So it got louder after the real fans left then? 

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      Reply #71: Feb 07, 2016 12:49:21 pm
      Either make a point or don't but don't highlight something without any information..

      It just looks lazy
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      Reply #72: Feb 07, 2016 12:51:40 pm
      Most fans wouldn't know business if it bit them on the arse... They dream of a team of superstars yet don't want to pay the price. You can't have the moon on a stick and it can't be f**king Christmas every day.

      We lost two valuable points yesterday because the fans deemed it acceptable in mass to make a point.. I'll pay £77 in fact I'll pay a £100 if it gets me in Anfield because for too long the tickets have gone to unappreciative living in the past lifeless fans.

      I expect you all to disagree with this, and I'm sorry but it's the truth.

      Anfield has no atmosphere because the real fans rarely raise their voice when it matters. FACT 

      Contrary to what your forum name might be, your opinion is completely wrong and in fact, dare I say it, YOU are the type of fan that makes all this sh*t possible. Willing to pay whatever the entry fee, regardless of the subsequent impact to everyone else. A completely selfish act and something the real Christ were he alive today, would no doubt frown upon.

      So kindly take your FACT and shove it where the sun doesn't shine!

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      Reply #73: Feb 07, 2016 12:52:39 pm
      No we drew the game amongst the drama..

      Anfield never has an atmosphere, we sing when we're winning or need to win and our songs are sh*t except the obvious.

      Away days rule even at Anfield

      So it got louder after the real fans left then? 



      Either make a point or don't but don't highlight something without any information..

      It just looks lazy
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      Reply #74: Feb 07, 2016 12:54:51 pm
      So it got louder after the real fans left then? 


      Was certainly louder outside ;D

      ' enough is enough' 'enough is enough' ' you greedy bas**rds, get out of our club'!
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      Reply #75: Feb 07, 2016 12:55:01 pm
      Most fans wouldn't know business if it bit them on the arse... They dream of a team of superstars yet don't want to pay the price. You can't have the moon on a stick and it can't be F***ing Christmas every day.

      We lost two valuable points yesterday because the fans deemed it acceptable in mass to make a point.. I'll pay £77 in fact I'll pay a £100 if it gets me in Anfield because for too long the tickets have gone to unappreciative living in the past lifeless fans.

      I expect you all to disagree with this, and I'm sorry but it's the truth.

      Anfield has no atmosphere because the real fans rarely raise their voice when it matters. FACT 

      Or they've already decided to jib it because of the obscene prices.

      Whether you like it or not, those who walked out yesterday were extolling those socialist ideals that were passed down by Shankly himself.

      Think on that when you want to flaunt it about gladly paying well over a oner for a ticket.
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      Reply #76: Feb 07, 2016 12:57:21 pm
      Either make a point or don't but don't highlight something without any information..

      It just looks lazy

      If I wanted to make a point I wouldn't have asked you a question.
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      Reply #77: Feb 07, 2016 12:58:36 pm
      Or they've already decided to jib it because of the obscene prices.

      Whether you like it or not, those who walked out yesterday were extolling those socialist ideals that were passed down by Shankly himself.

      Think on that when you want to flaunt it about gladly paying well over a oner for a ticket.

      Not really flaunting it... But I pay on average £30 and I get more tickets under these owners than any other. So I don't see the problem? 

      I believe in our owners, manager and most of the players and fans.

      But protest for the sake of it is just sh*t

      Sing for your ticket not for the value of it.

      Anyway peace everyone x

      I have a difference of opinion that's all nobody was hurt too much I hope

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      Reply #78: Feb 07, 2016 01:01:44 pm
      Was certainly louder outside ;D

      ' enough is enough' 'enough is enough' ' you greedy bas**rds, get out of our club'!


      I believe the atmosphere outside was like the Kop of old mate.  Not just the songs or the noise but the camaraderie.
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      Reply #79: Feb 07, 2016 01:02:47 pm
      No we drew the game amongst the drama..

      Anfield never has an atmosphere, we sing when we're winning or need to win and our songs are sh*t except the obvious.

      Away days rule even at Anfield

      Either make a point or don't but don't highlight something without any information..

      It just looks lazy

      Clearly have NO understanding of what support is. Support is for the common good, not the "needs" of the few of privelaged. Too many people have been priced out of going to games on a regular basis in the name of profit.

      Football is a "business" much in the same vein as the NHS. It's not supposed to be about making money, it's about the good of the community.

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      Reply #80: Feb 07, 2016 01:03:29 pm
      Most fans wouldn't know business if it bit them on the arse... They dream of a team of superstars yet don't want to pay the price. You can't have the moon on a stick and it can't be f**king Christmas every day.

      We lost two valuable points yesterday because the fans deemed it acceptable in mass to make a point.. I'll pay £77 in fact I'll pay a £100 if it gets me in Anfield because for too long the tickets have gone to unappreciative living in the past lifeless fans.

      I expect you all to disagree with this, and I'm sorry but it's the truth.

      Anfield has no atmosphere because the real fans rarely raise their voice when it matters. FACT 

      Good for you if you can afford to pay over £100 a ticket. The reason we dropped points is because we've got a sh*t team, fans don't dream of a team of superstars, fans dream of a team that will work for them, the fact you think we all dream of a team of superstars sums up the modern day fan.
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      Reply #81: Feb 07, 2016 01:05:35 pm
      Anyone who thinks the walkout yesterday was a waste of time and nothing will change don't understand Liverpool.  That's the City, the People and Liverpool Football Club.

      If the owners choose not to take notice and come back to the negotiating table, they definitely don't know what we're capable of or have totally misjudged the groundswell of feelings about the issues of not just the new prices but the pricing structure generally.

      They said that ordinary fans wouldn't be paying for the new stand, that the corporates, hospitality and sponsors would cover the costs.  They lied!

      10000-15000 fans walked out yesterday, it was a massive show of support considering the idea only surfaced 2 days before the match.  It's been shown worldwide, it's in every media outlet nationally, everybody's talking about it. 

      They've been in talks with supporter groups for over 12 months, there were positive vibes coming from Ayre and Gordon about the proposals, the fans groups were happy with how things were going and thought they had a consensus on how the Club would proceed but Boston didn't agree. 

      They were the ones who pulled the plug!!  After all the rhetoric of working with the fans on how to take the Club forward, the setting up of supporter groups, the dialogue that they'd listen and here we are, 5 years on having to take drastic action to get our voices heard.

      The ball's in their court now, if they choose not to respond there will be further action.  The sponsors are next, emails are already being sent to a variety of top dogs at Subway as a starting point, others will follow.

      They're happy to use the Kop, the fans, the songs, the chants, the famous "atmosphere", the flags, the banners to "market" their tickets but the ones they're pricing out of going to the game are the ones that provide all of the above. 

      The majority of people who were left in the ground yesterday are "the customers" they're trying to attract.  The ones who pay their money to be entertained not just by the football but from the Kopites themselves.  How many of those left stood at full time, scarves aloft, singing YNWA?  Not f**king many!!

      We complain about the lack of atmosphere every home game and have done for a long time but when 3/4 of the ground is full of customers rather than the hardcore fans it's hardly a surprise the other 1/4 can't make themselves heard.

      If there's one thing these Yanks love more than money it's good press, if there's one thing they hate more than losing is money it's bad press - well they got that in spades yesterday.

      As a side note but sort of linked, anyone remember the campaign "£20 is plenty" for away tickets, the money that was "given" to Clubs to help reduce prices for away tickets across the whole PL, well there was a vote last week by PL CEO's - they voted against it and we were one of them.



      Well I hope your capable of running a global business and not just ruining it.


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      Reply #82: Feb 07, 2016 01:07:09 pm
      the white world is fu**ed, liverpool was a great unique 'F**k you' to britain but its been raped of a lot of its fight. scousers never say die but they're up against the might of the jew dollar and its taking over everything!!!!!!!
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      Reply #83: Feb 07, 2016 01:07:22 pm
      Good for you if you can afford to pay over £100 a ticket. The reason we dropped points is because we've got a sh*t team, fans don't dream of a team of superstars, fans dream of a team that will work for them, the fact you think we all dream of a team of superstars sums up the modern day fan.

      Can the fans on here honestly not see how we dropped points because of the walk out?

      Can they also not see that there are other ways to make a point without protest

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      Reply #84: Feb 07, 2016 01:09:19 pm
      Can the fans on here honestly not see how we dropped points because of the walk out?

      Can they also not see that there are other ways to make a point without protest

      I can see how we dropped points because Mignolet dropped another clanger. Maybe that was the fans fault though.

      So make a point without protesting, in other words, sit quietly, get shafted and remember to thank them after!!
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      Reply #85: Feb 07, 2016 01:12:31 pm
      Well I hope your capable of running a global business and not just ruining it.

      So not gaining an extra £2m next season is going to ruin us?  In what way will it ruin us?
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      Reply #86: Feb 07, 2016 01:14:30 pm
      Can the fans on here honestly not see how we dropped points because of the walk out?

      Can they also not see that there are other ways to make a point without protest



      They dropped points because once again, the bang average 'keeper between the sticks, fu**ed up again! Or were you oblivious to that little fact!?

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      Reply #87: Feb 07, 2016 01:17:19 pm
      Most fans wouldn't know business if it bit them on the arse... They dream of a team of superstars yet don't want to pay the price. You can't have the moon on a stick and it can't be F***ing Christmas every day.

      We lost two valuable points yesterday because the fans deemed it acceptable in mass to make a point.. I'll pay £77 in fact I'll pay a £100 if it gets me in Anfield because for too long the tickets have gone to unappreciative living in the past lifeless fans.

      I expect you all to disagree with this, and I'm sorry but it's the truth.

      Anfield has no atmosphere because the real fans rarely raise their voice when it matters. FACT 

      I know your entitled to your opinion but  I dont agree with what you've said. A team of superstars isnt needed look at Leicester starting 11 cost 20 odd million. Money wont buy you belief or desire to win games we spent a fortune and most of our "superstars" pull out of tackles week on week then show up every couple of weeks for the big games when the sky cameras are rolling.

      Losing points yesterday cant be blamed solely on the protest it may have had an effect on the players but dont be fooling yourself into thinking those were 2 valuable points. This season has been a write off pretty much from the get go and the issue of screwing fans financially is far bigger than a few points. Once those prices are raised they will never drop back down there is only one direction they will go and its up.

      Just because your willing to part with larger sums of cash doesn't make you a better fan as the old saying goes a fool and his money are easily parted. The owners have been diluting the quality of player transfer window on window and lowering the wage bill. We have found gems like Sturridge, Suarez and Couthino in that time but part of me thinks that was luck or just no one else wanted them. Dont be fooled youre now going to be paying more money for the privilege of watching a mid table side than you would have paid to see a team of 10 years ago that had real quality.

      We are toothless we back out of most transfers over money, we try save money on wages. Any part of the club that can be sold to sponsors has been exploited for money. Dont be fooled charging 77 quid wont magically change their philosophy on recruiting talent these owners are here for money they dont have the best interests of Liverpool FC at heart they are here for money end of story. Its all about money. They care about their investment but not for the club. What does Baseball, Football and NASCAR have in common? The answer is F**k all, bar fans who pay to watch it and support it. They love money not Liverpool.

      This is an issue that needs to be addressed and not just at Liverpool. The FA should set quotas for all clubs of minimum and maximum pricing and should agree a minimum % of cheaper seats. There needs to be financial fair play for tickets basically.     
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      Reply #88: Feb 07, 2016 01:19:32 pm
      I know your entitled to your opinion but  I dont agree with what you've said. A team of superstars isnt needed look at Leicester starting 11 cost 20 odd million. Money wont buy you belief or desire to win games we spent a fortune and most of our "superstars" pull out of tackles week on week then show up every couple of weeks for the big games when the sky cameras are rolling.

      Losing points yesterday cant be blamed solely on the protest it may have had an effect on the players but dont be fooling yourself into thinking those were 2 valuable points. This season has been a write off pretty much from the get go and the issue of screwing fans financially is far bigger than a few points. Once those prices are raised they will never drop back down there is only one direction they will go and its up.

      Just because your willing to part with larger sums of cash doesn't make you a better fan as the old saying goes a fool and his money are easily parted. The owners have been diluting the quality of player transfer window on window and lowering the wage bill. We have found gems like Sturridge, Suarez and Couthino in that time but part of me thinks that was luck or just no one else wanted them. Dont be fooled youre now going to be paying more money for the privilege of watching a mid table side than you would have paid to see a team of 10 years ago that had real quality.

      We are toothless we back out of most transfers over money, we try save money on wages. Any part of the club that can be sold to sponsors has been exploited for money. Dont be fooled charging 77 quid wont magically change their philosophy on recruiting talent these owners are here for money they dont have the best interests of Liverpool FC at heart they are here for money end of story. Its all about money. They care about their investment but not for the club. What does Baseball, Football and NASCAR have in common? The answer is f**k all, bar fans who pay to watch it and support it. They love money not Liverpool.

      This is an issue that needs to be addressed and not just at Liverpool. The FA should set quotas for all clubs of minimum and maximum pricing and should agree a minimum % of cheaper seats. There needs to be financial fair play for tickets basically.     

      Brilliant post. Have a plus

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      Reply #89: Feb 07, 2016 01:19:36 pm
      Can the fans on here honestly not see how we dropped points because of the walk out?

      Can they also not see that there are other ways to make a point without protest

      If we dropped points because of the walkout doesn't that reinforce to the owners that the "team" needs the fans and they shouldn't be pricing them out of going?

      How about spending over 12 months in dialogue with the Club over ticketing issues and prices, thinking they were working towards a general consensus only for the owners to pull the plug?  Don't you think they've tried to get their point across in those meetings?

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      Reply #90: Feb 07, 2016 01:25:43 pm
      Money ruined British football in the 90s and it will continue to ruin football as it does the world.

      But it's a fact now thanks to united, Chelsea and City..

      So you make the most of it don't you? Or maybe we can be a mid table team with happy fans.

      Please can someone tell me after you've got our current owners to sell up.. Who you would prefer?

      Please make a list of sugar daddies.

      Maybe the Slave labour pioneers from the Middle East?

      Or the oil frauds from Russia?


      Please somebody tell me who?? 

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      Reply #91: Feb 07, 2016 01:39:46 pm
      Maybe I am not in a position to comment on this issue, because I don't live in England , let alone Liverpool (Malta) I follow every game on tv
      and don't attend Anfield that much , maybe once  or twice  a season  if the finance permits
      BUT I fully support yesterday's walk-out , the majority of anfield fans  ,especially those  who left early  yesterday, attend  every home game , so they are being ''robbed'' every time they go through the Anfield  gates , I'll do my very little part in not buying any merchandise  items
       it cannot continue like this , increasing ticket prices whenever the owners want to increase their income
       just hope the club/owners/ board , whoever, take notice and do something about all this, and maybe other clubs' fans  with the same issue follow the example, All clubs depend on their fan-base and LFC is no exception
       pity some  blame the loss of the 2 goal lead to the protest
       we lost that to a sh*t goalkeeping and defending

      YNWA
       

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