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      FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing

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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #23: Feb 10, 2016 07:43:31 pm
      Part of clubs official announcement.
      "Message received.

      After an intense period of consultation with LFC management we have decided to make major revisions to our ticketing structure for 2016-17:

      Removal of game categorisation – regardless of the opposition fans will pay the same price for matchday tickets.
      The pricing of tickets will be readjusted to result in zero revenue growth from GA ticketing on a like-for-like basis.
      Though individual ticket prices may move marginally from this season, we are freezing our 2016-17 GA ticket revenue at the 2015-16 level exclusive of newly-added seats in the new Main Stand.
      The price of our highest general admission ticket will be frozen at the 2015-16 level - £59.
      The price of our highest season ticket will be frozen at the 2015-16 level - £869. The lowest price reducing a further £25 from the 2015-16 level to £685, as well as all other tiers being frozen or reduced.
      £9 GA seats will be offered for each and every Premier League match, an allocation of more than 10,000 tickets across the season
      ."

      Wow,is this it guys,could we say that yours walkout was successful?

      I would say so. This is a significant milestone in the war on ticket prices. Credit must go to the club for reviewing their previous decision and making these changes.
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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #24: Feb 10, 2016 07:43:32 pm
      well done fans

      also good to see a quick u-turn from the owners.....

      now time to protest about the committee   :lmao:

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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #25: Feb 10, 2016 07:46:39 pm
      I've pinned this topic for tonight.
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      Reply #26: Feb 10, 2016 07:48:03 pm
      FSG's message to Liverpool supporters

      Principal Owner John W Henry, Chairman Tom Werner and President Mike Gordon have tonight issued the following message to Liverpool supporters...

      Dear Liverpool supporters,

      It has been a tumultuous week. On behalf of everyone at Fenway Sports Group and Liverpool Football Club, we would like to apologise for the distress caused by our ticket pricing plan for the 2016-17 season.

      The three of us have been particularly troubled by the perception that we don’t care about our supporters, that we are greedy, and that we are attempting to extract personal profits at the club’s expense. Quite the opposite is true.

      From our first days as owners we have understood that serving as custodians of this incredible institution is a distinct privilege and as such, we have been driven solely by the desire to return LFC to the pinnacle of football. In the world of modern football, growing the club in a sustainable way is essential to realising this objective.

      To that end, we have never taken a single penny out of the football club. Instead we have injected vast sums of our own money to improve the playing squad and modernise LFC’s infrastructure - exemplified by the £120million advance from FSG to build the new Main Stand. This massive undertaking was made in order to provide more supporters access to Anfield and also to produce additional revenue to help us compete financially with clubs that have greater resources. When it opens in August this year, the stand will accomplish those goals, thereby fulfilling a promise we made upon acquiring LFC in 2010.

      We were strongly engaged in the process to develop the ticketing plan for 2016-17. We met directly with representatives of LFC’s Supporters’ Committee and along with LFC management, wholeheartedly agreed with major concerns raised, notably: access for local and young supporters; engagement and access to Anfield for local children; access to Premier League matches for those in Liverpool most challenged by affordability.   

      We believe the plan successfully addressed these concerns and are disappointed that these elements have been either lost or, worse, characterised as cynical attempts to mask profiteering in the plan as a whole. Rather, we prefer to look at them as the parts of the ticketing plan we got right.

      On the other hand, part of the ticketing plan we got wrong.

      In addition to the other elements of the plan we proposed price increases on a number of tickets. These pricing actions generated growth in general admission ticketing revenue on a like-for-like basis exclusive of revenue from newly-added GA seats.

      We believed by delivering a vastly improved seat offering in what will be the newest stand in English football, concentrating the price increases on those tickets typically purchased by fans least sensitive to affordability, and for LFC to begin repaying the £120million advance from FSG for the new Main Stand that these increases were supportable even in the context of growth in revenues from the new Premier League TV deal.

      However, the widespread opposition to this element of the plan has made it clear that we were mistaken.

      A great many of you have objected strongly to the £77 price level of our most expensive GA seats and expressed a clear expectation that the club should forego any increased revenue from raising prices on GA tickets in the current environment.

      Message received.

      After an intense period of consultation with LFC management we have decided to make major revisions to our ticketing structure for 2016-17:

      Removal of game categorisation – regardless of the opposition fans will pay the same price for matchday tickets.
      The pricing of tickets will be readjusted to result in zero revenue growth from GA ticketing on a like-for-like basis.
      Though individual ticket prices may move marginally from this season, we are freezing our 2016-17 GA ticket revenue at the 2015-16 level exclusive of newly-added seats in the new Main Stand.
      The price of our highest general admission ticket will be frozen at the 2015-16 level - £59.
      The price of our highest season ticket will be frozen at the 2015-16 level - £869. The lowest price reducing a further £25 from the 2015-16 level to £685, as well as all other tiers being frozen or reduced.
      £9 GA seats will be offered for each and every Premier League match, an allocation of more than 10,000 tickets across the season.
      We would hasten to add that the other initiatives announced last week in the 2016-17 plan will remain:

      17-21 young adult concession – 20,000 tickets across the Premier League season available at a 50 per cent reduction for young people.
      1,000 tickets to Premier League matches across the season will be given away free of charge to Liverpool schoolchildren based on merit, as recommended by their teachers.
      As a sign of our commitment to this improved ticketing structure, we are further announcing that this plan shall be in effect for both the 2016-17 and 2017-18 seasons. For the next two seasons, LFC will not earn a single additional pound from increasing general admission ticket prices.

      We believe we have demonstrated a willingness to listen carefully, reconsider our position, and act decisively. The unique and sacred relationship between Liverpool Football Club and its supporters has always been foremost in our minds. It represents the heartbeat of this extraordinary football club.

      More than any other factor by far, that bond is what drives us to work tirelessly on behalf of the club and its future. We have great conviction in our world-class manager and our young, talented squad and know that in time the on-pitch success we all crave will be realised.

      We look forward to sharing in that success with you.

      http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/206821-fsg-s-message-to-liverpool-supporters
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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #27: Feb 10, 2016 07:52:19 pm
      Well done to everyone that walked.
      I wasn't expecting such a swift turn around from the club either.
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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #28: Feb 10, 2016 08:04:36 pm
      As someone who wasn't particularly keen on the method of protest can i just hold my hands up and say well done to all concerned. Interesting to see if other clubs wake up, not holding my breath though
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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #29: Feb 10, 2016 08:08:36 pm
      Well done, I figured it would work. Americans hate egg on their face.
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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #30: Feb 10, 2016 08:16:11 pm
      Well done boys,well done,i am glad to see that some fans still have an impact.
      I am proud to be a Liverpool supporter!
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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #31: Feb 10, 2016 08:17:11 pm
      Stalling, face saving call it what you want but those wonderful people that left the ground caused them huge personal embarrassment.  Sorry to seem less than impressed but I am not forever in their debt for them lending the club "their club" money to build a stadium extension on "their Stadium". So when they sell they will deduct any money paid back  because they wouldn't want that paid back twice once from the club and once from the new owners. Keep the pressure up don't blink now because they will definitely blink first
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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #32: Feb 10, 2016 08:18:15 pm
      It seems it's not as good as the PR would have you believe.

      With removing the categorisation of ticket prices, all games will be priced as Cat A meaning some fans tickets will increase.

      http://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/match-day-premier-league-prices-2016-17
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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #34: Feb 10, 2016 08:42:03 pm
      It seems it's not as good as the PR would have you believe.

      With removing the categorisation of ticket prices, all games will be priced as Cat A meaning some fans tickets will increase.

      http://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/match-day-premier-league-prices-2016-17


      Some are Cat A prices, most are between A & B and quite a lot are between B & C.

      I still think that the whole "Twenty's Plenty" movement should be going full throttle now rather than us celebrating this as a victory. It's not. Prices are still extortionate.
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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #35: Feb 10, 2016 09:09:52 pm
      Some are Cat A prices, most are between A & B and quite a lot are between B & C.

      I still think that the whole "Twenty's Plenty" movement should be going full throttle now rather than us celebrating this as a victory. It's not. Prices are still extortionate.

      Agreed mate but I think there's plenty happening across the country that it'll get put back on the table. 

      The Supporters Club Federation are meeting all PL Supporters Clubs to discuss the next move. 

      The cap of £30 for away tickets that was voted against by 7 PL Clubs, us being one of them, will be discussed again at the March meeting.

      And not that it means anything but there was something in Parliament today, no idea what like but it was about ticket prices.

      I think there's plenty more to come from this mate, although I think it needs other Clubs fans to get on board and do something about their prices for it to gain real traction.
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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #36: Feb 10, 2016 09:11:16 pm
      FSG's message to Liverpool supporters

      Principal Owner John W Henry, Chairman Tom Werner and President Mike Gordon have tonight issued the following message to Liverpool supporters...

      Dear Liverpool supporters,

      It has been a tumultuous week. On behalf of everyone at Fenway Sports Group and Liverpool Football Club, we would like to apologise for the distress caused by our ticket pricing plan for the 2016-17 season.

      The three of us have been particularly troubled by the perception that we don’t care about our supporters, that we are greedy, and that we are attempting to extract personal profits at the club’s expense. Quite the opposite is true.

      From our first days as owners we have understood that serving as custodians of this incredible institution is a distinct privilege and as such, we have been driven solely by the desire to return LFC to the pinnacle of football. In the world of modern football, growing the club in a sustainable way is essential to realising this objective.

      To that end, we have never taken a single penny out of the football club. Instead we have injected vast sums of our own money to improve the playing squad and modernise LFC’s infrastructure - exemplified by the £120million advance from FSG to build the new Main Stand. This massive undertaking was made in order to provide more supporters access to Anfield and also to produce additional revenue to help us compete financially with clubs that have greater resources. When it opens in August this year, the stand will accomplish those goals, thereby fulfilling a promise we made upon acquiring LFC in 2010.

      We were strongly engaged in the process to develop the ticketing plan for 2016-17. We met directly with representatives of LFC’s Supporters’ Committee and along with LFC management, wholeheartedly agreed with major concerns raised, notably: access for local and young supporters; engagement and access to Anfield for local children; access to Premier League matches for those in Liverpool most challenged by affordability.   

      We believe the plan successfully addressed these concerns and are disappointed that these elements have been either lost or, worse, characterised as cynical attempts to mask profiteering in the plan as a whole. Rather, we prefer to look at them as the parts of the ticketing plan we got right.

      On the other hand, part of the ticketing plan we got wrong.

      In addition to the other elements of the plan we proposed price increases on a number of tickets. These pricing actions generated growth in general admission ticketing revenue on a like-for-like basis exclusive of revenue from newly-added GA seats.

      We believed by delivering a vastly improved seat offering in what will be the newest stand in English football, concentrating the price increases on those tickets typically purchased by fans least sensitive to affordability, and for LFC to begin repaying the £120million advance from FSG for the new Main Stand that these increases were supportable even in the context of growth in revenues from the new Premier League TV deal.

      However, the widespread opposition to this element of the plan has made it clear that we were mistaken.

      A great many of you have objected strongly to the £77 price level of our most expensive GA seats and expressed a clear expectation that the club should forego any increased revenue from raising prices on GA tickets in the current environment.

      Message received.

      After an intense period of consultation with LFC management we have decided to make major revisions to our ticketing structure for 2016-17:

      Removal of game categorisation – regardless of the opposition fans will pay the same price for matchday tickets.
      The pricing of tickets will be readjusted to result in zero revenue growth from GA ticketing on a like-for-like basis.
      Though individual ticket prices may move marginally from this season, we are freezing our 2016-17 GA ticket revenue at the 2015-16 level exclusive of newly-added seats in the new Main Stand.
      The price of our highest general admission ticket will be frozen at the 2015-16 level - £59.
      The price of our highest season ticket will be frozen at the 2015-16 level - £869. The lowest price reducing a further £25 from the 2015-16 level to £685, as well as all other tiers being frozen or reduced.
      £9 GA seats will be offered for each and every Premier League match, an allocation of more than 10,000 tickets across the season.
      We would hasten to add that the other initiatives announced last week in the 2016-17 plan will remain:

      17-21 young adult concession – 20,000 tickets across the Premier League season available at a 50 per cent reduction for young people.
      1,000 tickets to Premier League matches across the season will be given away free of charge to Liverpool schoolchildren based on merit, as recommended by their teachers.
      As a sign of our commitment to this improved ticketing structure, we are further announcing that this plan shall be in effect for both the 2016-17 and 2017-18 seasons. For the next two seasons, LFC will not earn a single additional pound from increasing general admission ticket prices.

      We believe we have demonstrated a willingness to listen carefully, reconsider our position, and act decisively. The unique and sacred relationship between Liverpool Football Club and its supporters has always been foremost in our minds. It represents the heartbeat of this extraordinary football club.

      More than any other factor by far, that bond is what drives us to work tirelessly on behalf of the club and its future. We have great conviction in our world-class manager and our young, talented squad and know that in time the on-pitch success we all crave will be realised.

      We look forward to sharing in that success with you.

      http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/announcements/206821-fsg-s-message-to-liverpool-supporters

      Fair play to the owners. They've realised mistakes were made, the fans weren't listened to in the place and have had the decency to act upon it, albeit with a little push from the Anfield faithful. That's the power of solidarity. Hats off to one and all!

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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #37: Feb 10, 2016 09:16:57 pm
      Good, clear to see in the letter they tried to use it as a PR exercise though. I suppose it will get plenty of coverage so they had to spin their version of it.

      Without the walkout none of these revelations would have been clear to them, none of this bullshit that is in the letter would have been actioned so the only thing I think that deserves congratulating in all this is the fans that walked out.

      A clear demonstration of fan power, as for the not a penny out of the club I wonder what rate that £120m they claim they've basically plowed into the club :lmao: is earning them.

      Anyway, at least they've done the right thing now, hopefully the rest of the greedy bas**rds in the league will follow suit.
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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #38: Feb 10, 2016 09:26:02 pm
      I bet Ian Ayre is sat very uncomfortably after his 'look at the facts' spiel.

      He's lost all credibility (if he had any).

      Well done to all those who stood up (and walked) for the right thing.  A valuable lesson in life for those who just, literally, sit there and take the status quo.

      The cap of £30 for away tickets that was voted against by 7 PL Clubs, us being one of them, will be discussed again at the March meeting.

      In regards to that the 13 who voted for it should implement it and 'shame' the other 7.
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      Reply #39: Feb 10, 2016 09:34:59 pm
      In regards to that the 13 who voted for it should implement it and 'shame' the other 7.

      They only need one more vote for for it to go through so let's hope Ayre/Gordon put that right in March.
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      Reply #40: Feb 10, 2016 10:27:04 pm
      Great news,all those naysayers saying it was pointless ...well it wasn't.
      Well done to each an all who walked.
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      Reply #41: Feb 11, 2016 12:26:54 am
      Incredible. I was sceptical about how much the protest would impact as I was sure corporate greed in some way or another would win out but I've been proved wrong. An incredible effort by all. Renewed my faith in the power of protest. It could only be Liverpool supporters who could do that. I stand and salute you all!

      Same sentiments here. I have seen many protests over the years and all achieved nothing. I guess a kind of respect has to go to FSG for taking the views of the supporters into account, but as has been mentioned, a massive respect for those who walked out. I had given up and could only see the negatives in such actions. Its nice to be proven wrong, especially when those in the power not only take notice but act on it due to those who refused to give up.

      Well done and congratulations to those with more sense than me!
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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #42: Feb 11, 2016 06:46:09 am
       
      Agreed mate but I think there's plenty happening across the country that it'll get put back on the table. 

      The Supporters Club Federation are meeting all PL Supporters Clubs to discuss the next move. 

      The cap of £30 for away tickets that was voted against by 7 PL Clubs, us being one of them, will be discussed again at the March meeting.

      And not that it means anything but there was something in Parliament today, no idea what like but it was about ticket prices.

      I think there's plenty more to come from this mate, although I think it needs other Clubs fans to get on board and do something about their prices for it to gain real traction.

      It was on all news yesterday, here is an article on it
      Cameron commented on the issue after it was brought up by MP Clive Efford. He said:
      I will look very carefully at the suggestion the honourable gentleman makes because I think there is a problem here when some clubs put up prices very rapidly every year, even though so much of the money for football actually comes from sponsorship, equipment and other sources so I’ll look very carefully at what he says.
      http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2615540-david-cameron-comments-on-premier-league-ticket-pricing-amid-liverpool-protests

      So BIG well done to those who protested, walked out ,
      Your protest  had the impact everywhere
      A well done to the owners too , who listened and at least acted
      Pretty sure LFC fans started something that will be followed by most club's fanbase in the PL
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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #43: Feb 11, 2016 07:41:18 am
      Fantstic news, the walkout worked.

      NEXT MISSION: Get rid of Transfer Committee!
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      Reply #44: Feb 11, 2016 08:15:29 am
      Not only did we 'talk the talk' but we 'walked the walk'.

      Well done to those who stood up and counted, I want to thank you for making me proud of this club...

      YNWA...
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      Re: FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing
      Reply #45: Feb 11, 2016 08:26:34 am
      Some are Cat A prices, most are between A & B and quite a lot are between B & C.

      I still think that the whole "Twenty's Plenty" movement should be going full throttle now rather than us celebrating this as a victory. It's not. Prices are still extortionate.

      Agree Res.

      This should be seen as a start, and I think it will, with the view to getting tickets back down to a realistic level.

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