FSG Apologise & Revise 16/17; 17/18 Ticket Pricing

Where is christ when you need him?

Most fans wouldn't know business if it bit them on the arse... They dream of a team of superstars yet don't want to pay the price. You can't have the moon on a stick and it can't be F***ing Christmas every day.

We lost two valuable points yesterday because the fans deemed it acceptable in mass to make a point.. I'll pay £77 in fact I'll pay a £100 if it gets me in Anfield because for too long the tickets have gone to unappreciative living in the past lifeless fans.

I expect you all to disagree with this, and I'm sorry but it's the truth.

Anfield has no atmosphere because the real fans rarely raise their voice when it matters. FACT 

Where is christ when you need him?

Yesterday was Ash Wednesday, and the start of 40days of fasting.repentance, and spiritual renewal in preparation for the Easter season.


YNWA

Yesterday was Ash Wednesday, and the start of 40days of fasting.repentance, and spiritual renewal in preparation for the Easter season.


YNWA

So he's in the wilderness fighting off the devil whose trying to persuade him to be a naughty boy. 

I bet Ian Ayre is sat very uncomfortably after his 'look at the facts' spiel.

I've just read the open letter from Henry & Co and it couldn't be more different to Ayres message.

He is a F***ing lapdog my friend, totally not in line with his own people....

Agree Res.

This should be seen as a start, and I think it will, with the view to getting tickets back down to a realistic level.

Funny but the Sos & Spion Kop fellas were overjoyed with categorization being removed; said it was the first true step towards being able to work the ticket prices down over time.

The power of our unity.

So he's in the wilderness fighting off the devil whose trying to persuade him to be a naughty boy. 

Hes not the messiah.. Hes a very naughty boy.

Funny but the Sos & Spion Kop fellas were overjoyed with categorization being removed; said it was the first true step towards being able to work the ticket prices down over time.

I agree AZ but like I said freezing prices and ending categorization should be then beginning of the process and not he final outcome.

Fair play to FSG for acting so quickly on this after the protest but it is only the beginning of we want realistic prices that the majority of fans can afford to pay.

Apologise and revise.

Should not have got to this point in the first place. Lots and lots of boss reds have been priced out of supporting their team who will never return because of severe disillusion.

Should have revised the prices backwards. And fu**ed off the membership bollocks - paying to have a chance at buying tickets that you then have to pay for. So unjustified.

And that slimy gobs***e Ayre should be hung out to dry. We've looked at the facts knobhead and it's clear that you are a greedy c**t who is quite happy to rinse proper reds whilst threatening and alienating us. Be careful what you wish for? Yeah, hopefully you'll F**k off on your bike somewhere and don't come back.

Apologise and revise.

Should not have got to this point in the first place. Lots and lots of boss reds have been priced out of supporting their team who will never return because of severe disillusion.

Should have revised the prices backwards. And fu**ed off the membership bollocks - paying to have a chance at buying tickets that you then have to pay for. So unjustified.

And that slimy gobs***e Ayre should be hung out to dry. We've looked at the facts knobhead and it's clear that you are a greedy c**t who is quite happy to rinse proper reds whilst threatening and alienating us. Be careful what you wish for? Yeah, hopefully you'll f**k off on your bike somewhere and don't come back.

Good to see you back and posting RK, as on point and succinct as ever!!

Apologise and revise.

Should not have got to this point in the first place. Lots and lots of boss reds have been priced out of supporting their team who will never return because of severe disillusion.

Should have revised the prices backwards. And fu**ed off the membership bollocks - paying to have a chance at buying tickets that you then have to pay for. So unjustified.

And that slimy gobs***e Ayre should be hung out to dry. We've looked at the facts knobhead and it's clear that you are a greedy c**t who is quite happy to rinse proper reds whilst threatening and alienating us. Be careful what you wish for? Yeah, hopefully you'll F**k off on your bike somewhere and don't come back.

Amen!

Where is christ when you need him?

Rodgers thought the same , he was supposed to have his back covered .

An interesting point to it all for me when Jay McKenna said of when he was sat across from Mike Gordon I believe and he said
'why would we reduce ticket prices?'

Well this still says a lot to me that owners of clubs not only don't really get the average fan but are missing a trick to make short term profit over long term gains

It's not just our club it's with all other big club owners too because let's face it this is more of an issue to the really big clubs with large waiting lists and bigger demand than their stadiums allow. But all these clubs in England could have got their heads together and done something for us, the fans at this one and potentially biggest opportunity ever with the new massive TV deal coming in.
They could have all agreed to take the same hit as each other and reduce ticket prices to something that would make a real difference to their fans, to treat us as something special and not customers for a change, it would make a difference and probably make you feel more for the institution as they would have done more from us, it may have led to more being spent in the club shop, refreshments at the game...

I have no doubt that post this new TV deal that agents will be on the phone to clubs saying that they feel their client should benefit from the TV deals.. If the clubs had got their heads together they could have all won a public relations backlash in such a positive way by saying to those agents, no we aren't giving a cut to your player we are giving it to the fans.. If they had all done that then the danger of only one club doing it and their players going elsewhere for money from one of the other big clubs would be minimised and they could have all given a cut to the fans, a substantial cut to those fans which in the grand scheme of things wouldn't have paid one overpaid players season pay rise, let alone them all.

The reaction by FSG has been a good one and I'm pleased with them but all owners could and imo should have done more with these TV deals incoming. Why give more inevitably to the players when the fans need and deserve more.

What hasnt really been publicised is that so many of the Kop walked and they weren't going to get raised, but they stood by their fellow reds in the main stand as they were going to get screwed.

All fans pay too much, it's something by FSG but is it enough? Not in my book, not only for those who go each week but for those who go once or twice a season. We should all stick together, we are all ultimately being ripped off by the game we love and should still be dependent on us

FSG deserve credit for this don't get me wrong but it still feels a little bit of not enough. It's becoming extortionate for regular people to follow the game. Ticket prices, drinks and food at the ground, shirts.. All adds up. We even charge for the membership hitch I'd imagine the majority only do to get tickets and that membership is around 100,000 people I believe for such a small amount of tickets available to them.

I love the game and this club especially but the price to follow it isn't reasonable anymore, when you see what the players earn and the executives at the clubs take out, you'd think there would be a drive to make it more affordable to us all

Well this still says a lot to me that owners of clubs not only don't really get the average fan but are missing a trick to make short term profit over long term gains

It's not just our club it's with all other big club owners too because let's face it this is more of an issue to the really big clubs with large waiting lists and bigger demand than their stadiums allow.

Its not just English fans and the premier league

I was in the USA last week, and caught some of the 'Mike and Mike' show on ESPN the following day

They said it is the same situation in the US - with owners just hiking up prices, and fans behaving like sheep and paying for it - because the owners know that say 1,000 Yankees or Red Sox fans say 'no way' to the price hike, then there are another 2, 3, 5,000 fans who will ....

They (Mike & Mike) have said for years that fans have the power to change this - IF they work collectively to do so.

They reckon that FSG doing this could have implications for US sports fans (being the owners of the Red Sox) - if US fans followed the lead of Liverpool fans.

So - once again, Liverpool leading the way on fairness for all.

Its not just English fans and the premier league

I was in the USA last week, and caught some of the 'Mike and Mike' show on ESPN the following day

They said it is the same situation in the US - with owners just hiking up prices, and fans behaving like sheep and paying for it - because the owners know that say 1,000 Yankees or Red Sox fans say 'no way' to the price hike, then there are another 2, 3, 5,000 fans who will ....

They (Mike & Mike) have said for years that fans have the power to change this - IF they work collectively to do so.

They reckon that FSG doing this could have implications for US sports fans (being the owners of the Red Sox) - if US fans followed the lead of Liverpool fans.

So - once again, Liverpool leading the way on fairness for all.

It's not going to happen over here in the states. Too many people ready and willing to replace those that stop going.

It's not going to happen over here in the states. Too many people ready and willing to replace those that stop going.

Surely there must come a point when most supporters can no longer justify the cost ? Or do the owners manage to always hit the sweet spot just short of that?

Surely there must come a point when most supporters can no longer justify the cost ? Or do the owners manage to always hit the sweet spot just short of that?

Thats the goal of any business - to hit that point of maximising revenue the 'customer' (or in footballs case, the fans) are willing to pay

I do think it may effect the US market - only because of the american psyche of not wanting to be out-done by anyone (sorry american reds, but working for a US company, its what I see day in, day out)

Surely there must come a point when most supporters can no longer justify the cost ? Or do the owners manage to always hit the sweet spot just short of that?

The thing about American sports is that there are so many casual observers that will pay a high ticket price for a "day out". Some die hard fans won't ever get to go to a game. I have been a Dallas Cowboys fan for 30 years or so, finally made it to my first game about 3 seasons ago, only been to 2 games of theirs in my entire life. I do well enough for myself and it was still a pretty big expense, $135 per ticket for my wife and I, add in $8 beer at the stadium and a $12 sandwich, plus hotel and rental car (since I don't live in Dallas). Luckily got flights for free because I had accrued miles. Now I'm not local so for a local fan, the tickets and food would be your only expense but still not cheap. And if I don't go, there will always be someone else to buy the ticket I didn't buy.

I imagine that last part is somewhat the same in England at least for the bigger clubs?

The thing about American sports is that there are so many casual observers that will pay a high ticket price for a "day out". Some die hard fans won't ever get to go to a game. I have been a Dallas Cowboys fan for 30 years or so, finally made it to my first game about 3 seasons ago, only been to 2 games of theirs in my entire life. I do well enough for myself and it was still a pretty big expense, $135 per ticket for my wife and I, add in $8 beer at the stadium and a $12 sandwich, plus hotel and rental car (since I don't live in Dallas). Luckily got flights for free because I had accrued miles. Now I'm not local so for a local fan, the tickets and food would be your only expense but still not cheap. And if I don't go, there will always be someone else to buy the ticket I didn't buy.

I imagine that last part is somewhat the same in England at least for the bigger clubs?

It is probably very similar mate, I don't go anymore so my experience is very different. When I was young I used to go to every home game, the local away games and when Liverpool were away down south or somewhere, I would go to different clubs around the area. United, Citeh, Bolton... even Everton just to see a football match.

Always just paid at the door to get in. The only time I had to have a ticket was for finals.

But most importantly it was cheap. Honestly don't know how people can justify to themselves paying the money they do today... unless they have more money than me which is always a possibility I suppose

I gave up in rafas last year think it was £32 to sit in the anny road end against Wigan 1-1 F***ing sh*te game sat next to a couple eating sarnies with little bottles of wine😳😳😳😳!!!.

I gave up in rafas last year think it was £32 to sit in the anny road end against Wigan 1-1 F***ing sh*te game sat next to a couple eating sarnies with little bottles of wine😳😳😳😳!!!.

That's how much my ticket is for the game tomorrow night 

It's about time this was capped, really pleased actually...hope it filters through to the home games too.

£42 my ticket for tomorrow night. Ridiculous sum to pay for a Europa League game. I remember paying £30 for the Champions League not too many seasons ago!

The whole league can thank our supporters for the cap. They wouldn't have done anything had we all (well...some of us) walked out that day.

They all laugh at us, they all mock us...but we continue to set the standard for support in this country.

The whole league can thank our supporters for the cap. They wouldn't have done anything had we all (well...some of us) walked out that day.

No doubt about it that what the fans did at Anfield against Sunderland made this into an issue.

While it's not the £20 they were after it's a far more reasonable figure than the £50, £60 that a fan would be paying for Arsenal and Chelsea etc on top of the travel.  And whereas the likes of LFC fans have been paying far more over the years than say an Everton fan they will probably get the most benefit from the cap.

It's a decent move and it's long overdue.

Having a cap on away tickets is going to make it even more difficult for the clubs to ramp up prices of home tickets in the future too.