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      Liverpool and Man Utd both charged by UEFA.
      Mar 18, 2016 10:24:15 am
      I posted this in the post match thread, but thought it should have its own thread.

      "UEFA have opened disciplinary proceedings against Manchester United and Liverpool following their Europa League match at Old Trafford on Thursday night.

      The last-16 second-leg tie was marred by a number of incidents, including fighting in the crowd.

      United are to be charged under safety regulations for having stairways blocked, for crowd disturbances and the throwing of objects.

      Liverpool are to be charged with illicit chants, setting off fireworks, the throwing of objects and crowd disturbances.

      The case will be dealt with by the UEFA Control, Ethics and Disciplinary Body on 19 May.

      There were scuffles in the crowd at the final whistle at Old Trafford after a Liverpool flag was unfurled in the home end with police intervening and escorting a small group of fans out of the upper tier of the East Stand.

      Greater Manchester police made five arrests, two of them on suspicion of affray and one for lighting a flare.

      A number of flares and smoke bombs were seen in the away end after Liverpool scored shortly before half-time."
      « Last Edit: Mar 18, 2016 01:24:57 pm by Reslivo »
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      Reply #1: Mar 18, 2016 10:32:02 am

      Manchester United and Liverpool have been charged by Uefa following crowd trouble during the Europa League last-16 second leg at Old Trafford.

      Rival fans were seen fighting in the stands, seats were thrown and flares were lit at Thursday's 1-1 draw, during which five men were arrested.

      Both clubs have been charged with crowd disturbances and throwing of objects.

      Liverpool, who won 3-1 on aggregate, have been charged with illicit chants and the setting off of fireworks.

      The case will be heard by Uefa's control, ethics and disciplinary body on 19 May, the day after the Europa League final in Basel.

          Radio 5 live commentary: "Uefa will take action, mark my words"

      Greater Manchester Police superintendent Jim Liggett said the force was investigating a "handful of concerning incidents" after Thursday's game.

      Beforehand, police had to remove a banner on the M602 motorway in Salford designed to taunt Liverpool fans heading to Old Trafford.

      United were not punished by Uefa after some of their fans sang offensive Hillsborough disaster chants during the first leg at Anfield.

      Uefa disciplinary charges
      Manchester United    Liverpool
      Stairways blocked    Illicit chants
      Crowd disturbances    Setting off of fireworks
      Throwing of objects    Throwing of objects
         Crowd disturbances
         Late kick-off

      Liverpool, meanwhile, are looking into a tweet sent from youth team player Jordan Williams' verified Twitter account during the game.

      The tweet depicted an aeroplane emoji and pair of hands clapping, in response to a video of Liverpool fans celebrating inside Old Trafford

      Other Twitter users suggested Williams was mocking the 1958 Munich air disaster, in which eight United players died.

      Williams deleted the tweet and later apologised, saying: "My Twitter has been hacked, I would never put anything like that to offend anyone, sorry about this."

      His account has since been deactivated.




      So UEFA  can move quickly if they want to ? !

      Pity they disnt see elbow incidents in both games  or original Hillsborough chants from the Scum at Anfield.

      NO illicit chants  charge at either game on the Mancs from UEFA   ..........   but on us last night ?!   FFS .



      http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35840289
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      Reply #2: Mar 18, 2016 10:32:55 am
      That must have been a beautiful sight to have seen the Liverpool flag heisted in their home  stand , pity it wasn't the stretford end .
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      Reply #3: Mar 18, 2016 10:34:17 am
      We are being charged with illicit chanting, they are not! That in itself is a complete disgrace!
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      Reply #4: Mar 18, 2016 10:43:23 am
      We are being charged with illicit chanting, they are not! That in itself is a complete disgrace!
      I was in the main stand last week and could clearly hear the vile from them and F**k all done to them .
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      Reply #5: Mar 18, 2016 10:48:11 am
      You couldn't make this sh*t up could you. They must have chanted 'murderers' and other sh*t about 50 times last night. It happened about 4 or 5 times right behind De Gea's goal in the first half when we had corners.
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      Reply #6: Mar 18, 2016 10:48:24 am
      UEFA never disappoints.
      Corruption personified on a consistent level.
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      Reply #7: Mar 18, 2016 10:54:24 am
      UEFA never disappoints.
      Corruption personified on a consistent level.
      We sound shocked by the decision when we should actually expect it at this stage . Always double standards from Uefa and the Fa , parity of esteem isn't in their vocabulary .

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      Reply #8: Mar 18, 2016 11:01:57 am
      Maybe if UEFA dealt with the chants our fans wouldn't have to get punished for getting frustrated with them. It sounds we had to put up with being provoked for 180+ minutes.
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      Reply #9: Mar 18, 2016 11:02:19 am
      I get most of the charges (don't agree with them but I get them) but what's with the charge of 'late kick off'?
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      Reply #10: Mar 18, 2016 11:07:00 am
      Was the pyro in the referee's report then?

      Comedy organisation and see they make their decision after the final the big gang of shithouses.
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      Reply #11: Mar 18, 2016 11:11:55 am
      Was the pyro in the referee's report then?

      Comedy organisation and see they make their decision after the final the big gang of shithouses.
      It is so when we win the Europa League they can disqualify us, but if we don't win it they can let us off with a warning. What has Uefa got against Liverpool?
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      Reply #12: Mar 18, 2016 11:22:18 am
      So this will be charge no. 26,245 then from Uefa!!

      The mancs can send us the bill for the broken seats and we'll no doubt get a fine.

      Will Man Utd get fined as much as us, doubt it

      They never got charged from Anfield, despite worldwide media attention.

      They where allowed to stay in Manchester prior to our game, Uefa rules state otherwise.

      They got the kick off time changed for their game.

      Fellaini never got charged from our game, and goes on to do exactly the same last night.

      Shall I go on.


      Ohh don't forget their former chief executive David Gill is part of UEFA - no wonder they sing "We're Man Utd, we do what we want"
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      Reply #13: Mar 18, 2016 11:22:51 am
      UEFA never disappoints.
      Corruption personified on a consistent level.

      UEFA  FIFA    FA     


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      Reply #14: Mar 18, 2016 11:27:09 am
      They where allowed to stay in Manchester prior to our game, Uefa rules state otherwise.

      Didn't know that.
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      Reply #15: Mar 18, 2016 11:31:17 am
      We are being charged with illicit chanting, they are not! That in itself is a complete disgrace!

      That's just made my blood f**king boil reading that.

      Surely, surely those dumb cu*ts at UEFA have got that arse about face.

      The club MUST defend itself against this corrupt sh*te when push comes to shove.
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      Reply #16: Mar 18, 2016 11:35:32 am

      Some bollocks about UEFA ruling that the away team has to stop-over within 27-miles from their opponents' stadium.

      Manuefa wrote a letter to themselves asking if they could have a special concession.
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      Reply #17: Mar 18, 2016 11:35:46 am

      Yep some stupid arse UEFA rule. (What Beerbelly said!!) But another one the mancs were able to get around.

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      Reply #18: Mar 18, 2016 11:42:42 am
      I get most of the charges (don't agree with them but I get them) but what's with the charge of 'late kick off'?
      Must have been sturridge being late for kickoff, i watched the before kickoff video, we were short of 2 players. The last one was sturridge.
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      Reply #19: Mar 18, 2016 11:42:48 am
      Waste of time this:

      To sets of fans that hate each other, 1st time they have been drawn in a European competition, not rocket science that it would pass off without any incident.

      Whilst our rozzers can handle crowds it seems the mancs can not.

      How the hell did away supporters get tickets for, let alone get into the home end is beyond me, and go unnoticed to the final whistle is just one big embarrassment for the home stewards.
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      Reply #20: Mar 18, 2016 11:52:19 am
      That's just made my blood f**king boil reading that.

      Surely, surely those dumb cu*ts at UEFA have got that arse about face.

      The club MUST defend itself against this corrupt sh*te when push comes to shove.

      Totally agree, too many times in the past we've just rolled over and not fought back. The Club need to defend the fans, the fact that they chanted does not make it right that we do likewise, but to charge us with chanting while completely ignoring their vile chants is just not acceptable!




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      Reply #21: Mar 18, 2016 12:16:50 pm
      So this will be charge no. 26,245 then from Uefa!!

      The mancs can send us the bill for the broken seats and we'll no doubt get a fine.

      Will Man Utd get fined as much as us, doubt it

      They never got charged from Anfield, despite worldwide media attention.

      They where allowed to stay in Manchester prior to our game, Uefa rules state otherwise.

      They got the kick off time changed for their game.

      Fellaini never got charged from our game, and goes on to do exactly the same last night.

      Shall I go on.


      Ohh don't forget their former chief executive David Gill is part of UEFA - no wonder they sing "We're Man Utd, we do what we want"


      Gill pulled strings for the cu*ts in his time with the FA - he was then in the employment of man u of coarse.
      F***ing stinks.

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      Reply #22: Mar 18, 2016 12:20:12 pm
      I think the chants from Liverpool were in response to chants received, not an excuse.. all parties should be punished privately and not the teams.
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      Reply #23: Mar 18, 2016 12:36:54 pm
      Sadly I'm not surprised.
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      Reply #24: Mar 18, 2016 12:40:09 pm
      Don't react to the c**t, the mods will delete it

      If you delete yours too it won't be quoted either

      He's just proved what we all knew, they're all cu*ts

      That's all the cu*ts have got, even the cunty UEFA crew can't take away the fact that we hammered them in their own shithole to take away any chance of winning anything in the near future.
      That c**t of a club is totally discredited, how the F**k can they hope to sign any proven game winner or any credible player as they hurtle towards obscurity?

      The shitrag we all despise has bollox in it every day on the BBC gossip page about them supposedly signing players from top clubs globally, guess what all they got is the sh*te on show last night.
      Long may the meltdown continue.
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      Reply #25: Mar 18, 2016 12:45:57 pm
      A couple of posters on RAWK think we should withdraw from the competition unless they charge the Mancs for their chants. Now while I understand the real anger people are feeling, UEFA would love that, we'd play right into their hands. Plus they'd put the Mancs through instead!
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      Reply #26: Mar 18, 2016 12:56:13 pm
      Was it from any "Independent UEFA Observers"  at the game or from the biased Manc stewards ?
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      Reply #27: Mar 18, 2016 01:02:19 pm
      Being late on the pitch? Seriously? Are uefa gonna give us detention?
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      Reply #28: Mar 18, 2016 01:12:21 pm
      It's all bollocks. Uefa had their chance to nip this in the bud last week but decided not to bother.



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      Reply #29: Mar 18, 2016 01:15:06 pm
      A couple of posters on RAWK think we should withdraw from the competition unless they charge the Mancs for their chants. Now while I understand the real anger people are feeling, UEFA would love that, we'd play right into their hands. Plus they'd put the Mancs through instead!


      Why does anyone take anything seriously from that F***ing forum, weren't they the same shitbags that wanted to take a friendship banner to last nights match. Dickhead virgins (or probably mancs in disguise) as if we should pull out - how about going on and winning it instead.

      The only way those sick chants end is through self-policing a bit like what we did over the munich stuff - yeah we all know it still happens but not on the scale like we saw and heard last week and last night from them.

      Anyway no one is stopping me from wearing this big F**k off, sh*t eating grin I've got today   ;D
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      Reply #30: Mar 18, 2016 01:18:35 pm
      Why does anyone take anything seriously from that f**king forum, weren't they the same shitbags that wanted to take a friendship banner to last nights match.

      WHAT!!?

      how about going on and winning it instead.

      Sounds like a plan.  I'm in.
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      Reply #31: Mar 18, 2016 01:25:08 pm

      Honestly there was a thread on there one of those olive branch things 'they' like to do to try and de-escalate things, something about a banner with Hillsborough and Munich and the usual try-hards all wanting to chip in, until a few who actually go the match pointed out what a bad idea it was and who would they find to carry the F***ing thing.

      End up getting locked as per and given up as a bad idea!

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      Reply #32: Mar 18, 2016 01:30:38 pm
      Honestly there was a thread on there one of those olive branch things 'they' like to do to try and de-escalate things, something about a banner with Hillsborough and Munich and the usual try-hards all wanting to chip in, until a few who actually go the match pointed out what a bad idea it was and who would they find to carry the F***ing thing.

      End up getting locked as per and given up as a bad idea!



      Along with 99% of the sh*te on RAWK. F***ing terrible.
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      Reply #33: Mar 18, 2016 01:50:06 pm
      Very surprised to see UEFA have also warned 3 of our players as to their future behaviour :-

      Lovren - use of head to bruise elbow of Fellani

      Coutinho - use of magic tricks to embarrass fellow footballers De Gea and Varela

      Sakho - Use of legs that detach from the body is not allowed under UEFA rules

      :)
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      Reply #34: Mar 18, 2016 01:52:51 pm
      Waste of time this:

      To sets of fans that hate each other, 1st time they have been drawn in a European competition, not rocket science that it would pass off without any incident.

      Whilst our rozzers can handle crowds it seems the mancs can not.

      How the hell did away supporters get tickets for, let alone get into the home end is beyond me, and go unnoticed to the final whistle is just one big embarrassment for the home stewards.
      Apparently Utd didn't sell there allocation mate,so loads of reds applied for membership at £20 a pop
      Thus getting the spare Tkts at £35  hence why reds fans ended up in the home end.
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      Reply #35: Mar 18, 2016 01:55:02 pm
      UEFA: The same organization that looked at video of Fellaini elbowing Can and United supporters chanting "murderers" last week and proceeded to not charge United with anything. Laughable.
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      Reply #36: Mar 18, 2016 02:05:48 pm
      Being late on the pitch? Seriously? Are uefa gonna give us detention?

      You what?

      We had to wait an eternity for that ponce Valencia to put his boots on at the start of the second half!
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      Reply #37: Mar 18, 2016 02:15:31 pm
      UEFA are corrupt tw*ts, that's actually a fact, but I still couldn't make this sh*t up.
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      Reply #38: Mar 18, 2016 02:25:58 pm
      Rafa was right about the FA, can't be independent when there are Scum members on its board & it seems that continues with UEFA.
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      Reply #39: Mar 18, 2016 02:35:53 pm
      Very surprised to see UEFA have also warned 3 of our players as to their future behaviour :-

      Lovren - use of head to bruise elbow of Fellani

      Coutinho - use of magic tricks to embarrass fellow footballers De Gea and Varela

      Sakho - Use of legs that detach from the body is not allowed under UEFA rules

      :)


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      Reply #40: Mar 18, 2016 03:01:31 pm
      Apparently Utd didn't sell there allocation mate,so loads of reds applied for membership at £20 a pop
      Thus getting the spare Tkts at £35  hence why reds fans ended up in the home end.

      That's so embarrassing, same as City, day before they hand they were pleading for fans to turn up.
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      Reply #41: Mar 18, 2016 03:12:11 pm
      I wonder if 'we' will just bend over and take it like good little boys like we did over Luis - after all 'we' wouldn't want to upset our sponsors.  >:D
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      Reply #42: Mar 18, 2016 03:16:43 pm
      I wonder if 'we' will just bend over and take it like good little boys like we did over Luis - after all 'we' wouldn't want to upset our sponsors.  >:D

      Bend over with mouth agape mate, attempting to apologise profusely.
      Does make you wonder if Jürgen will disappear up his own orifice to order.
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      Reply #43: Mar 18, 2016 03:29:54 pm
      My first thought was the club need to step up and get a complaint in about their chants but having thought about it maybe their silence has something to do with the inquests and not wanting to compromise the ruling.

      I understand the cu*ts chanting murderers could be classed as compromising the ruling but given where it's coming from I'd expect the coroner would take that into consideration but if it comes from the club or us as fans then I'm not sure on the legality of it all.

      If there's even the slightest possibility of it being detrimental then if say a dignified silence is probably for the best.


      Without doubt Ian.
      That being the case would you not think some neutral body would make a stand against these creatures who defile the memory of the victims?
      Neutral candidates??

      The FA?
      UEFA?

      As neutral as Sepp Blatter & Co and as corrupt.

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      Reply #44: Mar 18, 2016 05:25:27 pm
      My first thought was the club need to step up and get a complaint in about their chants but having thought about it maybe their silence has something to do with the inquests and not wanting to compromise the ruling.

      I understand the cu*ts chanting murderers could be classed as compromising the ruling but given where it's coming from I'd expect the coroner would take that into consideration but if it comes from the club or us as fans then I'm not sure on the legality of it all.

      If there's even the slightest possibility of it being detrimental then if say a dignified silence is probably for the best.

      Anyone chanting

      Hillsborough
      Murderers
      Munich
      etc

      is a true Cnut, as is anyone who hangs a banner like that over the motorway - the police dealt with that.

      You guys won fair and square over the tie, you have bragging rights and can afford a dignified silence.  I don't like that you beat us, but you did.
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      Reply #45: Mar 18, 2016 05:44:16 pm
      Am I missing something?  Disgusting though it may be on both sides, is "illicit chanting" not covered under free speech laws?

      Are we now regulating people being nice to each other?
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      Reply #46: Mar 18, 2016 06:00:57 pm
      Am I missing something?  Disgusting though it may be on both sides, is "illicit chanting" not covered under free speech laws?

      Are we now regulating people being nice to each other?

      Yes, you are missing something. This type of chanting is a breach of the peace, see Wilson v Brown, 1982, SCCR 49 for an example.

      It's okay for you to say to me that you dislike my club, hope you beat us (even humiliate us), but the minute you start to talk (or sing) about Munich in an offensive manner, you have stepped over a red line and the rozzers can charge you.  Common sense means they normally wouldn't (what would it achieve) but they could.

      Of course the same applies the other way if I start singing about Hillsborough.

      It is disgusting, it has no place in our rivalry and needs to be stopped.  Our two clubs have much more in common than in difference and it is time some mutual respect was observed by the Cnuts on both sides - I'm sure most of us would agree.

      Look, I really hope Utd stuff LFC, but if I saw your car broken down on the hard shoulder of the M62, I'd stop and ask if I could help.

      There's a big difference between feeling rivalry at a sporting level (and believe you me, I am pissed off about the result) and actually having some respect/care for fellow humans.

      Most genocidal dictators try to dehumanize their enemies to make killing them easier - just sayin'.
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      Reply #47: Mar 18, 2016 06:02:41 pm
      Am I missing something?  Disgusting though it may be on both sides, is "illicit chanting" not covered under free speech laws?

      Are we now regulating people being nice to each other?


      We don't have free speech laws in this country, in fact we have some of the most stringent laws in the western world, especially when it comes to libel and slander. It's something I don't have huge issue with though, I think most expected 'freedoms' should come with responsibilities.
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      Reply #48: Mar 18, 2016 06:28:10 pm
      Yes, you are missing something. This type of chanting is a breach of the peace, see Wilson v Brown, 1982, SCCR 49 for an example.

      It's okay for you to say to me that you dislike my club, hope you beat us (even humiliate us), but the minute you start to talk (or sing) about Munich in an offensive manner, you have stepped over a red line and the rozzers can charge you.  Common sense means they normally wouldn't (what would it achieve) but they could.

      Of course the same applies the other way if I start singing about Hillsborough.

      It is disgusting, it has no place in our rivalry and needs to be stopped.  Our two clubs have much more in common than in difference and it is time some mutual respect was observed by the Cnuts on both sides - I'm sure most of us would agree.

      Look, I really hope Utd stuff LFC, but if I saw your car broken down on the hard shoulder of the M62, I'd stop and ask if I could help.

      There's a big difference between feeling rivalry at a sporting level (and believe you me, I am pissed off about the result) and actually having some respect/care for fellow humans.

      Most genocidal dictators try to dehumanize their enemies to make killing them easier - just sayin'.

      Fair play mate great post. I'd help you on the motorway as well, it's (IMHO) all bollocks this OTT stuff. Can't stand your football club and half your players (sure the feeling is mutual) but when Shanks made his "life and death" statement he did so in humour, football actually isn't as important as that. It's actually a game, and in my experience in the really big games the team who can remember that fact and not tighten up are the ones who usually come out on top or at the very least do themselves justice.
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      Re: Liverpool and Man Utd both charged by UEFA.
      Reply #49: Mar 18, 2016 06:29:16 pm
      Am I missing something?  Disgusting though it may be on both sides, is "illicit chanting" not covered under free speech laws?

      Are we now regulating people being nice to each other?

      Morale standards aside, I believe it would come under an attempt to incite violence; and yes, we should most definitely be regulating people being nice to each other when it comes to disgusting chants about tragedy.

      We don't have free speech laws in this country, in fact we have some of the most stringent laws in the western world, especially when it comes to libel and slander. It's something I don't have huge issue with though, I think most expected 'freedoms' should come with responsibilities.

      Technically you're correct but in practice we do because it's covered by the European Human Rights Act which is enshrined within our law.
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      Reply #50: Mar 18, 2016 07:02:21 pm
      One rule for us and another for the rest.

      Suarez, costa, fellaini.

      Biting aside.

      Players comparable by misdemeanour but incomparable by punishment.

      Subtle difference?

      A Liver Bird.

      F**k em all.

      Been goin on for years mate, they get the shits when there's any sign of us getting back to our all conquering days of times gone by.
      F**k 'em all indeed.
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      Reply #51: Mar 18, 2016 07:05:51 pm
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3499247/Manchester-United-escape-charges-vile-murderers-chants-Old-Trafford-Liverpool-supporters-face-action.html

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      Sources close to European football’s governing body confirmed to Sportsmail that the United chants, which are linked to the Hillsborough and Heysel stadium disasters, were not featured in the reports.

       :f_doh:
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      Reply #52: Mar 18, 2016 07:20:06 pm
      Maybe if UEFA dealt with the chants our fans wouldn't have to get punished for getting frustrated with them. It sounds we had to put up with being provoked for 180+ minutes.

      No excuse at all for lowering to their level.
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      Reply #53: Mar 18, 2016 07:44:57 pm
      So this will be charge no. 26,245 then from Uefa!!

      The mancs can send us the bill for the broken seats and we'll no doubt get a fine.

      Will Man Utd get fined as much as us, doubt it

      They never got charged from Anfield, despite worldwide media attention.

      They where allowed to stay in Manchester prior to our game, Uefa rules state otherwise.

      They got the kick off time changed for their game.

      Fellaini never got charged from our game, and goes on to do exactly the same last night.

      Shall I go on.


      Ohh don't forget their former chief executive David Gill is part of UEFA - no wonder they sing "We're Man Utd, we do what we want"

      THIS !!!
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      Reply #54: Mar 18, 2016 08:04:41 pm
      F**k them, take the fine out of our winners cheque you bunch of crooks.

      The only damaging thing done to United was the beating they took over two legs, and we've already seen £300 million isn't enough to cover their losses. Expect a bill from Uefa coming our way to compensate them for a team of decent players.
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      Reply #55: Mar 18, 2016 08:46:22 pm
      No excuse at all for lowering to their level.

      Easy to say that if you've never been to a Utd game and had to listen to the absolute sh*te they come out with. Not everyone has a cool head.



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      Reply #56: Mar 18, 2016 09:41:38 pm
      those lads were desperate to watch the lads so much so they were prepared to go into the Stretford End I will not be saying anything negative about them .
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      Reply #57: Mar 18, 2016 09:50:43 pm
      those lads were desperate to watch the lads so much so they were prepared to go into the Stretford End I will not be saying anything negative about them .

      i am sure the chance to wind up the mancs even more never occurred to them :0)
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      Reply #58: Mar 18, 2016 09:56:44 pm
      Easy to say that if you've never been to a Utd game and had to listen to the absolute sh*te they come out with. Not everyone has a cool head.

      That is not an excuse nor a justification.
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      Reply #59: Mar 18, 2016 10:12:30 pm
      i am sure the chance to wind up the mancs even more never occurred to them :0)

      you have to ask how did UTD sell them the tickets.
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      Reply #60: Mar 18, 2016 10:29:05 pm
      You just could not make this up could you ? Banners on the bridges at Manchester, sick chants that are not banter they are evil, Fellaini or should we call him 'Felony ' ! Elbowing Lovren was pre-meditated gbh, Firmino also took a cheap shot  from him, shame on the football authorities , once again injustice and bias
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      Reply #61: Mar 18, 2016 10:52:53 pm
      That is not an excuse nor a justification.

      Those eight lads in there end was probably the best response anyway!

      Their shower of sh*te team and support was humiliated on and off the pitch so who F***ing cares.
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      Reply #62: Mar 19, 2016 12:18:25 am

      Those eight lads in there end was probably the best response anyway!

      Their shower of sh*te team and support was humiliated on and off the pitch so who f**king cares.

      This. I've heard these cu*ts at it outside and inside Anfield before but whilst I would (biasedly I admit) say ours is a small minority, when they do it it's half their F***ing stadium, every F***ing season. Hardly the 'small minority' they like to make out it is.

      Anyway who gives a F**k what the cu*ts sing, they've always sang about us, F**k the filth!!!
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      Reply #63: Mar 19, 2016 12:37:55 am
      That afro head should have been banned from football while he was at Everton, I can no longer take decisions seriously if his elbowing is overlooked so many times.
       Calling us murderers doesn't get me angry, I think they're quite stupid to not get the point.
      I'm sure many Man u supporters will get that. It's not all of them.
      I love the rivalry but I don't hate Man u. I wouldn't want to be a fan, even when they were winning stuff their stadium was a bleak and dark arena. Like Evertons ground - void of humans. (haha)
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      Reply #64: Mar 19, 2016 07:18:20 am
      And so the manipulation of the F.A  and Eufa continues and still Manure get away with their filth.The best way to shut the bas**rds up is to thrash them on the pitch like we just did.
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      Reply #65: Mar 19, 2016 07:50:00 am
      That afro head should have been banned from football while he was at Everton, I can no longer take decisions seriously if his elbowing is overlooked so many times.

      Why he doesn't get more red cards for it, is beyond me - practically I'd put it down to weak refereeing - the same goes for all the wrestling in the penalty area that is tolerated and 'simulation', it's all cheating, but the wild elbows around peoples heads are dangerous play, on a par with two footed tackles

      Calling us murderers doesn't get me angry, I think they're quite stupid to not get the point.

      Unfortunately, the knuckle draggers who sing these songs have the IQ of pond life

      I'm sure many Man u supporters will get that. It's not all of them.

      Thank you. I believe most of us are against the vile chanting, whoever is doing it.

      I love the rivalry but I don't hate Man u.

      Exactly - two big clubs in the Northwest, lots of trophies, lots of history, these games mean a lot, win or lose, there's always next time to look forward to

      One the subject of us not travelling to Liverpool for the first leg and you going to Manchester early, some of your posters are saying 'one rule for one...'

      But I don't agree and think this is missing a smart move by Klopp; as Utd had had asked for and received a dispensation, UEFA could not have refused LFC, so why didn't you ask?

      A bright coach (and Klopp seems to be very bright) might use the opportunity to get his squad on to 'enemy territory' and psych the players up for the match - it's us against the world.

      It's the kind of psychology SAF would have used or Shankly, who was ahead of his time
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      Reply #66: Mar 19, 2016 02:08:14 pm
      What a crock of sh*t!

      Those UEFA cu*ts are a bunch of F***ing crooks!
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      Reply #67: Mar 19, 2016 03:02:12 pm
      Quote from bigears
      That must have been a beautiful sight to have seen the Liverpool flag heisted in their home  stand , pity it wasn't the stretford end .

      Payback for the incident in 2011 when they got tickets for our last home game of the season against Spurs, and smuggled in a banner before the game to remind us of the changed situation in the title record.
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      Reply #68: Mar 19, 2016 04:17:31 pm
      Payback for the incident in 2011 when they got tickets for our last home game of the season against Spurs, and smuggled in a banner before the game to remind us of the changed situation in the title record.

      You gotta admit that was a good one, though  :lmao:

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      Reply #69: Mar 20, 2016 11:11:57 am
      Hehehehe heard a funny story abut those lads in the upper tier, seems they were joined by one of the manc stewards, who happened to be from Huyton. Threw down his coat and got stuck in with the lads. Been sacked and banned from Old Trafford since like  ;D
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      Reply #70: Mar 20, 2016 11:13:11 am
      Hehehehe heard a funny story abut those lads in the upper tier, seems they were joined by one of the manc stewards, who happened to be from Huyton. Threw down his coat and got stuck in with the lads. Been sacked and banned from Old Trafford since like  ;D

      Hahahaha that's quality.
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      Reply #71: Mar 20, 2016 11:15:06 am
      Hehehehe heard a funny story abut those lads in the upper tier, seems they were joined by one of the manc stewards, who happened to be from Huyton. Threw down his coat and got stuck in with the lads. Been sacked and banned from Old Trafford since like  ;D

      I read about a steward or two getting involved but I thought they were helping tha mancs out. Fair play to the lad :D
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      Reply #72: Mar 23, 2016 07:56:31 pm
      Two dogs fighten  :lmao:.
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      Reply #73: Mar 23, 2016 08:44:18 pm

      You finally found out the scouse term for Huyton!!  ;)
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      Reply #74: Mar 23, 2016 08:56:32 pm

      Ones a blacken and ones a whiten,ones from Salford and ones from Huyton.
       And the winner is the Huyton dog.
      « Last Edit: Mar 24, 2016 06:13:50 am by Billy1 »
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      Reply #75: Mar 26, 2016 12:44:47 pm
      Mancs could face charges over disgusting chants about Hillsborough, UEFA investigating claims of illicit chanting at Old Trafford during Europa game:

      http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-manchester-united-could-11088191
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      Reply #76: Mar 26, 2016 01:53:53 pm
      Rafa was right about the FA, can't be independent when there are Scum members on its board & it seems that continues with UEFA.

      Rafa was spot on and he stopped short of saying they also fed them well over the years. Karma will be at work, there'll be a payback time.
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      Reply #77: Mar 26, 2016 02:11:27 pm

      Sorry about that Ian, was checking Hillsborough updates and that article was amongst it - didn't check the date out.
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      Reply #78: Mar 30, 2016 10:54:56 pm
      So it seems UEFA, in an attempt to deal with the big issues in football and ensure its relevance, has dropped the charges over the chants of "Munich" and instead we've been charged with setting off fireworks, throwing missiles and oh yeah, chanting "Manchester is full of sh*t".

      http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/656874/Liverpool-Fans-Old-Trafford-Manchester-United-Charged-Uefa-Chanting-Europa-League-News
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      Reply #79: Mar 30, 2016 10:58:54 pm
      So it seems UEFA, in an attempt to deal with the big issues in football and ensure its relevance, has dropped the charges over the chants of "Munich" and instead we've been charged with setting off fireworks, throwing missiles and oh yeah, chanting "Manchester is full of sh*t".

      http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/656874/Liverpool-Fans-Old-Trafford-Manchester-United-Charged-Uefa-Chanting-Europa-League-News

      "United were charged with blocking stairways, crowd disturbances and the throwing of objects. They have not been charged with illicit chanting." They've been charged on something anyways.

      In relation to us getting charged for a chant, I don't see what we did wrong; Manchester is full of sh*t!
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      Reply #80: Mar 31, 2016 05:43:08 am
      I think the Kop should sing "uefa full of sh*t"  with massive banners on show saying the same, there's no better place than a football terrace and in front of the media to display our disgust and highlight the injustice of it all,

      Kunt's the lot of them!!


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      Reply #81: Mar 31, 2016 01:50:13 pm
      Just tell UEFA to send us the fine.

      And add it to our list of misdemeanours  >:D
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      Reply #82: May 19, 2016 07:29:47 am
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      So UEFA have said that the munts 'may' get charged after all because they (UEFA) have been told that they might have chanted illicitly.

      F***ing farcical, it probably had nothing to do with the echo asking them what the difference was between us doing it and them doing it.

      We'll see eh?

      Today is the day, when we and a number of other clubs across Europe receive the response.

      A substantial fine is very likely, and a (suspended) possible closed doors game can't be ruled out.

      Let's just hope it's a fine and no more.
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      Reply #83: May 19, 2016 08:22:21 am
      We should charge those CORRUPT cu*ts for those so called Referees that "officiated" our game this morning.  :mad: :mad:
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      Reply #84: May 19, 2016 09:13:15 am
      We should charge those CORRUPT cu*ts for those so called Referees that "officiated" our game this morning.  :mad: :mad:

      He was shocking
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      Reply #85: May 19, 2016 09:27:09 am

      So were the linesman and the F***ing c**t up in the stands watching the video.
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      Reply #86: May 19, 2016 12:54:33 pm
      Today is the day, when we and a number of other clubs across Europe receive the response.

      A substantial fine is very likely, and a (suspended) possible closed doors game can't be ruled out.

      Let's just hope it's a fine and no more.

      After last night, who's arsed!!

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      Reply #87: May 19, 2016 12:55:51 pm
      So were the linesman and the f**king c**t up in the stands watching the video.

      ref is a millionaire so i am sure he's not arsed.
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      Reply #88: May 24, 2016 03:31:36 pm
      Fined £13,000 for illicit chanting and damage caused when some of the seats got lobbed. We have to respond to the mancs within 30 days regarding damage caused.

      The Mancs fined £13,750 for illicit chanting.
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      Reply #89: May 24, 2016 04:18:01 pm

      Should have seen what we used to sing to them through the late 70s and 80s.



      Been there done that ....
       ;D

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      Reply #90: May 24, 2016 07:39:08 pm
      Fined £13,000 for illicit chanting and damage caused when some of the seats got lobbed. We have to respond to the mancs within 30 days regarding damage caused.

      The Mancs fined £13,750 for illicit chanting.

      How am I not surprised!

      Perhaps Luis will pay it from his severance pay!


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      Reply #91: May 24, 2016 08:51:01 pm
      Fined £13,000 for illicit chanting

      From our 5,000 fans.

      The Mancs fined £13,750 for illicit chanting.

      Must have got charged an extra £750 for the extra 60,000 fans they had doing it.

      Seems reasonable, UEFA.

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