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      Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take

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      Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Jun 28, 2016 03:26:49 pm
      Out and out striker - playing just behind the striker - out wide.

      Seems we have not only bought someone capable of scoring but also capable of playing in a number of systems.

      But there can only be eleven players on the pitch so who's place is the most under threat.

      This graphic has him compared with Lallana.

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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #1: Jun 28, 2016 03:29:50 pm
      When all fit, no brainer for me:

      Mane         Firmino          Coutinho

      Sturridge

      And that genuinely excites me. Pace, power, precision and goals.
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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #2: Jun 28, 2016 03:37:11 pm
      When all fit, no brainer for me:

      Mane         Firmino          Coutinho

      Sturridge

      And that genuinely excites me. Pace, power, precision and goals.

      I would swap Mane and Coutinho to the opposite sides.

      Edit : It's me looking the other way around  :lmao:

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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #3: Jun 28, 2016 03:37:26 pm
      I have to think he replaces Lallana first and foremost; however his ability to play across the front 3 will allow the manager even more flexibility if Firmino/Coutinho go through a rough patch or if we have dire injury problems up top where Firmino can come in as striker and we don't lose out on the flanks.

      Sturridge, Origi, Ings

      Coutinho, Firmino, Lallana, Mane, Milner, Ojo, Ibe


      Lots of flexibility up across the front 3 now, can see all of them being able to exchange positions with each other during a match and creating a real headache for a defense.

      Long term this gives us time to continue to grow Ojo without pressure but it also means unless there is a real change that Ibe is getting knocked down the pecking order yet again and his days may be numbered.
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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #4: Jun 28, 2016 03:40:31 pm
                 Coutinho
      Lallana, Sturridge, Mane

      Lallana has the ability to make runs behind the opposition defence, same with Sturridge and Mane. Perhaps Ings replacing Lallana eventually as an inside forward? Coutinho will have a field day.

      I also like the idea of Firmino as a 9 with 2 quick wide forwards (Ojo and Mane?) and Coutinho behind.
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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #5: Jun 28, 2016 04:12:57 pm
                 Coutinho
      Lallana, Sturridge, Mane

      Lallana has the ability to make runs behind the opposition defence, same with Sturridge and Mane. Perhaps Ings replacing Lallana eventually as an inside forward? Coutinho will have a field day.

      I also like the idea of Firmino as a 9 with 2 quick wide forwards (Ojo and Mane?) and Coutinho behind.

      Dropping Firmino? 10 goals and 7 assists in his first season?
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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #6: Jun 28, 2016 04:13:11 pm
      I don't think he "takes" anyones place as we need different options for different opponents and halleluja, we've finally got options, really, really good ones, all across the front 4.

      Obviously not all of them can start but how amazing is it that we'll have a really strong attacking bench too.  We will also suffer some injuries, players will go off form and no doubt during International breaks some will need longer than others for recovery time (2 brazilians).

      I know last season was a long one but Cou only played 26 league games, Lallana 30 and Firmino 31 and if I recall correctly they were all subbed off (not together) in a few of those games, so having quality cover is fantastic.

      The other great thing is that our existing players having genuine competition for their places will help them raise their own games, let's face it we complain how Cou needs to improve his consistency but it's been all too easy for him as who else would take his place over the last 3 and half years?
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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #7: Jun 28, 2016 04:46:02 pm
      Dropping Firmino? 10 goals and 7 assists in his first season?

      I just favour Lallana's pressing tbh. Could always put Firmino in Lallana's position and I still think we would do well. Just preference I guess! Either way, I feel we'll have a very strong attacking line up next season. Too many options, I feel for Klopp :)
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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #8: Jun 28, 2016 04:46:06 pm
      I don't think he "takes" anyones place as we need different options for different opponents and halleluja, we've finally got options, really, really good ones, all across the front 4.

      Obviously not all of them can start but how amazing is it that we'll have a really strong attacking bench too.  We will also suffer some injuries, players will go off form and no doubt during International breaks some will need longer than others for recovery time (2 brazilians).

      I know last season was a long one but Cou only played 26 league games, Lallana 30 and Firmino 31 and if I recall correctly they were all subbed off (not together) in a few of those games, so having quality cover is fantastic.

      The other great thing is that our existing players having genuine competition for their places will help them raise their own games, let's face it we complain how Cou needs to improve his consistency but it's been all too easy for him as who else would take his place over the last 3 and half years?

      Smart woman talking....people should listen.

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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #9: Jun 28, 2016 05:21:15 pm
      Lopsided starting 11?

                          Karius
      Clyne     Lovren     Matip   Chilwell
                            Can
             Milner
                  Coutinho  Firmino
                         Sturridge      Mane
                   
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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #10: Jun 28, 2016 05:29:28 pm
      Lopsided starting 11?

                          Karius
      Clyne     Lovren     Matip   Chilwell
                            Can
             Milner
                  Coutinho  Firmino
                         Sturridge      Mane
                 

      Using only who we've got as of right now I'd say this:

      Karius
      Clyne Lovren Sakho Moreno
      Hendo Can
      Mane      Firmino    Coutinho
      Sturridge

      For me, that's our best, possibly with Matip in for one of Lovren/Sakho. I don't see Mane coming in as a direct replacement for anyone. I think he adds a new dimension to our lineup that we've been missing and I think that Lallana still will be in competition with him, Couts, and Firmino at all times for those three spots and they can be changed at any point depending on their form and on the opposition.

      This signing has certainly significantly strengthened our options and the overall firepower of our attack.
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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #11: Jun 28, 2016 05:41:36 pm
      Using only who we've got as of right now I'd say this:

      Karius
      Clyne Lovren Sakho Gomez
      Hendo Can
      Mane      Firmino    Coutinho
      Sturridge



      That's the one change I'd make to that team, possibly with Origi rotating with Studge up front.
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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #12: Jun 28, 2016 05:43:29 pm
      Karius
      Clyne   Matip
      Can  Milner
      Mane  Firmino   Coutinho   Lallana
      Sturridge  Origi

      We'll just try to outscore 'em...
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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #13: Jun 28, 2016 06:05:09 pm
      I would swap Mane and Coutinho to the opposite sides.

      Edit : It's me looking the other way around  :lmao:



      I love seeing Coutinho cutting in and scoring some worldies.

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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #14: Jun 28, 2016 08:43:17 pm
      Can see Lallana finding game time limited now.
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      Reply #15: Jun 28, 2016 09:18:08 pm
      Until the window closes I'm not giving up on this X1..........

                                Karius
             Clyne  Lovren  Matip  Hector
                            Hendo. Can
                 Mane.  Coutinho.  Firmino
                              Sturridge
        Bench ;
                    Mignolet,  Sakho, Moreno, Grujic
               Ings,  Ojo, Lallana

      D'ya think we could beat Iceland with that lot?


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      Reply #16: Jun 28, 2016 10:24:58 pm
      Until the window closes I'm not giving up on this X1..........

                                Karius
             Clyne  Lovren  Matip  Hector
                            Hendo. Can
                 Mane.  Coutinho.  Firmino
                              Sturridge
        Bench ;
                    Mignolet,  Sakho, Moreno, Grujic
               Ings,  Ojo, Lallana

      D'ya think we could beat Iceland with that lot?


      YNWA

      No Origi?
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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #17: Jun 28, 2016 11:08:30 pm
      I just favour Lallana's pressing tbh. Could always put Firmino in Lallana's position and I still think we would do well. Just preference I guess! Either way, I feel we'll have a very strong attacking line up next season. Too many options, I feel for Klopp :)

      Good point with the pressing of Lallana. Not that Bobby is a slouch himself. Both runners.

      Can't say I've looked closely at how Mané does press. If he's like those two, he'll do fine.
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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #18: Jun 28, 2016 11:09:24 pm
      I don't really think he is comparable with Lallana. Two different players.

      With Mane the talk is pace and power... with Lallana, he's all skill and flair. Lallana is absolutely on for right now too. He's playing really well for us, and he's had a great tournament. Firmino is actually more inconsistent than Lallana and could be more at risk.

      Lallana doesn't bring goals, but I don't think that's his thing. I don't see why he is criticised for it. He offers something else.

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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #19: Jun 28, 2016 11:11:58 pm
      I don't really think he is comparable with Lallana. Two different players.

      With Mane the talk is pace and power... with Lallana, he's all skill and flair. Lallana is absolutely on for right now too. He's playing really well for us, and he's had a great tournament. Firmino is actually more inconsistent than Lallana and could be more at risk.

      Lallana doesn't bring goals, but I don't think that's his thing. I don't see why he is criticised for it. He offers something else.



      It's nice to have options and not "whose playing less sh*t?" :D

      Genuinely excited. We have plenty of options and different styles of players at our disposal now.
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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #20: Jun 28, 2016 11:18:08 pm
      I don't really think he is comparable with Lallana. Two different players.

      With Mane the talk is pace and power... with Lallana, he's all skill and flair. Lallana is absolutely on for right now too. He's playing really well for us, and he's had a great tournament. Firmino is actually more inconsistent than Lallana and could be more at risk.

      Lallana doesn't bring goals, but I don't think that's his thing. I don't see why he is criticised for it. He offers something else.



      If you play as a number 10 then you definitely need to offer goals whether that's scoring or assisting a bunch. It's a huge part of that role. The good thing about Lallana is he can play in a number of positions. The addition of Mane may push him to being a squad player next season though (at the top end of the list).
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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #21: Jun 28, 2016 11:19:13 pm

      Yeah he's having a rest after helping Belgium win the Euro's,
       
      My bad mate I'll guess he'll rotate with Ings.


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      Re: Sadio Mane arrival - who's place does he take
      Reply #22: Jun 28, 2016 11:22:47 pm
      I don't really think he is comparable with Lallana. Two different players.

      With Mane the talk is pace and power... with Lallana, he's all skill and flair. Lallana is absolutely on for right now too. He's playing really well for us, and he's had a great tournament. Firmino is actually more inconsistent than Lallana and could be more at risk.

      Lallana doesn't bring goals, but I don't think that's his thing. I don't see why he is criticised for it. He offers something else.



      Thing is there is a point with that forward line where it is about the numbers and putting goals in the pack of the net; still feel Adam has an important role to play however if all other things are equal the player who is putting the ball in the back of the net is going to be the one out there playing. When we bought him after his final season at Southampton he as a 1/4 goal scorer...now he is a 1/5-1/6...no matter how hard you work when your up top as part of the "3" you simply have to be better than 1/6.

      Historically from his first days as a "pro" and throughout League 1, the Championship and the PL he is a 1/5 and at 28 years old its hard to see him pushing past his lifetime average.

      Fantastic work ethic, ball skills and really fantastic player to come of the bench..which is where over time I think he is heading and a very similar type player to a Joe Allen who is probably just shy of being good enough for starting XI but would be fantastic as a versatile  sub.

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