If Bayern want Klopp as next boss - would he go?

It's been a bit of a rumour for a while.  Express, Mirror etc have carried the story today that basically 'according to sources' Bayern would want Klopp to replace Ancelotti when he leaves them.

I'm sure a large percentage of the world's football clubs would want Klopp as their next manager so whether it's true or not, and there probably is truth in it - I'm more interested in whether you think that he would go?

He's won the Bundesliga - surely the challenge of winning in another country is a big motivation for him.

But then Munich are the biggest side from his homeland so there is that.

But he also was manager of Dortmund and has already made reference to Munich getting beat and smiling last season.  Doesn't seem a huge love affair there?

If we have a complete nightmare of a season or even do something unexpected like win the title - what happens then if Bayern come knocking?

Personally don't think he would go. He loves Dortmund so can't see him going to their rivals. I remember him doing a post match interview for us and finding out that Bayern lost to Mainz and laughing about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM7SnxFMUG4

If we have a complete nightmare of a season or even do something unexpected like win the title - what happens then if Bayern come knocking?

I don't think he would, he wants to build legacies not continue others.

Honestly I don't think he would go, because he doesn't strike me as a manager to go to one of the 'super-clubs' where success is guaranteed.

He could have waited around and any of the top clubs would have come in for him, the only possible exception being city as they had Guardiola tied up and yet he came to us despite the fact there was a challenge there. Think he needs to 'feel' the club he works for and those super-clubs are completely soulless.

Doesn't surprise me that there is interest there though, until we are re-established at the top we are going to have to face these problems with players and managers.

You can never say never but I think he's very happy here and see him with us for a while yet.

They say 'never say never' but on this occasion I'll say it

Don't think the Boss would go, he was more pissed of with Bayern to be honest as they kept nicking his star players...he has plenty of respect though for the club,supporters of Bayern.

Klopp has slowly ingrained himself into our way of life (LFC) & I see him going down as one of our great managers....

I cannot envisage any other situation other than that he firmly rejects them. For me Klopp's greatest personal asset is his realisation and ability to relativise and put into perspective his own life and achievements in comparison to not just the footballing world but the wider world in general. That's not to say he's satisfied with his life and his career achievements but that he also recognises genuine human achievement from superficial 'achievement'.

I think his central aim in football is to not just improve himself but improve the lives and success of everyone else around him. He attaches himself to his coaching team, his players and the supporters because he's obsessed in delivering the best for them as much as himself. To me that means that he entrenches himself too deeply to accept an arrogant call from one of football's corporate giants. He is not some ego centric narcissist who's only interest is to obtain achievements for himself and himself only. If he was that he'd have joined Chelsea, Real Madrid and/or Man Utd long by now.

I dont think he would. I think he likes projects. He won't be here forever though. Like at Dortmund when he felt he was going over old ground, he moved on.

I reckon he could well see a chance to take one of the Milan clubs back to the top in say 3 or 4 seasons time as a good project to take on.

He wont leave us in the sh*t for a bigger pay day, but he will take us as far as he thinks he can then move on again I believe.

I think he's here for the long term and wants to build something special.

Let's be honest, here. He did a remarkable job at Dortmund and will go down as a legend there, but if he did it here he would be talked about for eternity. The man who woke Liverpool Football Club up. Can't get that at Bayern. He'd just be another name on the list.

I had heard that he was holding out for the Bayern job when he took his sabbatical. However when Pep kept delaying his decision he got fed up.waiting and got his agent to contact LFC. Rogers was gone days later.

If Bayern come calling, in all likelihood he would go. Pretty much every German does. Many say they "hate" Bayern in public, until Bayern turn up on their doorstep and their principles suddenly go out the window.

He was waiting for Bayern last year while the club made up his mind about keeping Guardiola or not, but the more successful he is here, the greater the chance Bayern (or other clubs) will come around for him again.

Bayern are one of the best run clubs in the world, by footballers who know the game inside out, and have made the club a highly profitable one. Not everybody who goes there succeeds, but everything is provided for them to do so. That is a very attractive environment for players and coaches, and when they get the chance, very few say no.

Considering Klopp has bought over some of the Bayern backroom staff I dont think anytime soon he is likely to go back to Germany...

If Bayern come calling, in all likelihood he would go. Pretty much every German does. Many say they "hate" Bayern in public, until Bayern turn up on their doorstep and their principles suddenly go out the window.

He was waiting for Bayern last year while the club made up his mind about keeping Guardiola or not, but the more successful he is here, the greater the chance Bayern (or other clubs) will come around for him again.

Bayern are one of the best run clubs in the world, by footballers who know the game inside out, and have made the club a highly profitable one. Not everybody who goes there succeeds, but everything is provided for them to do so. That is a very attractive environment for players and coaches, and when they get the chance, very few say no.

Bayern are the only club I could stomach the boss leaving us for. Anyone else would be difficult to take. I'd love it if he turned them down like Rafa did when Real Madrid first came calling.

Considering Klopp has bought over some of the Bayern backroom staff I dont think anytime soon he is likely to go back to Germany...

Surely that 'increases the likelihood' if he has surrounded himself with a team of coaches etc who have connections with Bayern.

You haven't eased my concerns there with that one!

Load a sh*te!
Press have got F**k all better to do.

Klopp HATES Bayern Munich anyway... any opportunity he gets on camera and he looks straight down the lens and laughs at them..

Load a Sh*te!
Press have got f**k all better to do.

Klopp HATES Bayern Munich anyway... any opportunity he gets on camera and he looks straight down the lens and laughs at them..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H3Vlo6_bxbk

I'm sure they will come for him when Ancelotti leaves. Managers at Bayern usually operate in 2-3 year cycles so it's a while away. Suppose when the time comes it'll depend on how we're doing, how he's been backed etc etc as to what his decision is.
We had this worry with Rafa for years and it never happened. I'm not going to worry, I'm just enjoying him being our manager

Hey Bayern GO F**k YOURSELVES.

You can have him.....................












in 25 F***ing years!

NO.

He has always had an admiration for Liverpool. There were many connections between Borussia and us.

He is up against the best managers in the world (with just a few exceptions) in the toughest league.

Thats where he makes statement. That where he succeeds.

Anything else would be a cop out .... and that is not Jürgen.

I had heard that he was holding out for the Bayern job when he took his sabbatical. However when Pep kept delaying his decision he got fed up.waiting and got his agent to contact LFC. Rogers was gone days later.

Klopp was set up to come here earlier than you think.

Who touched the  " This Is Anfield " sign the year before ?

I'll think about it If it happens.... Until then he is our (LFC) manager

Not for me I think he's proving he is a builder of teams and not a man for buying star names and egos  , if I've been taken I by all the hype and bullshit so be it , but i believe we have been waiting for this time and this guy if I'm wrong I'll fall on my sword  , we will be a European powerhouse under his reign  it just feels right .

I'd put money on him at Barca before ever going to Bayern.

I think it is the media just stirring the sh*te,I would not worry unless there was something definite that Bayern really wanted him.Also if they wanted Jürgen they would approach him direct and not through the media.

Freedom of speech and all, but isn't it a bit silly to discuss about a manager leaving after he has been here 5 minutes? I don't need to be a genius to work out Klopp will get us into the champions league and want to stay. He has built the best Liverpool side I have seen in my generation.

Klopp is our best chance to bring home no 19,he knows what it means to this club to do that,he is starting to work his magic,and what we have seen in the last few games,is there for all to see,Klopp's brand of heavy metal football,few teams can live with us at the moment,and long may it continue.He is one of the best managers in the world so of course Bayern would be interested in his services,if he wants to go,but i don't see it,he wants to achieve great things here,and he will do.I am sure he has read (heard) the rumor's,maybe at the next presser he can re-assure everyone he isn't going anywhere,and nip it in the bud.

There's probably only one answer that he'd give and I think it would result in a new song finding it's way on to the kop. Something along the lines of...

The famous Bayern Munich phoned the reds to tap up Klopp

Oh The famous Bayern Munich phoned the reds to tap up Klopp

Oh The famous Bayern Munich phoned the reds to tap up Klopp... And this is what he said...

F**k OFF!

Was gonna write it in german but it's too early... Even to use Google translate.

Nah, he has stated several times that he enjoys a project - Bayern is too easy of a job for Jürgen. 

Jürgen had several offers but turned them down because he was waiting for Liverpool.  Once he takes us to the top he may consider a career change then but I think we've got him now until we are serious contenders on all fronts.

I think Jürgen will avoid any 'super club' until he fails in one of his projects. If this ever happened, then he would have to rebuild his reputation quickly and it would be very easy to do so at a club like Bayern. 

Somebody mentioned Jürgen taking over at one of the Milan clubs next, that's not a bad shout.

I'm not worried though, I'm pretty sure we've got him for a good few years yet.

He has built the best Liverpool side I have seen in my generation.

Unless you weren't watching us in 13/14 or during the Rafa era, then this simply isn't true.

By the way, I don't think there's a chance he goes.

Nah, he has stated several times that he enjoys a project - Bayern is too easy of a job for Jürgen. 

Jürgen had several offers but turned them down because he was waiting for Liverpool.  Once he takes us to the top he may consider a career change then but I think we've got him now until we are serious contenders on all fronts.

I think Jürgen will avoid any 'super club' until he fails in one of his projects. If this ever happened, then he would have to rebuild his reputation quickly and it would be very easy to do so at a club like Bayern. 

Somebody mentioned Jürgen taking over at one of the Milan clubs next, that's not a bad shout.

I'm not worried though, I'm pretty sure we've got him for a good few years yet.

Think that's a bit of a reach. I think FSG were waiting on him more than him us

Think that's a bit of a reach. I think FSG were waiting on him more than him us

I think there were probably 3 or 4 English clubs that he was willing to join and we happened to be on that list and the first of those clubs that needed to replace a manager.

I think there were probably 3 or 4 English clubs that he was willing to join and we happened to be on that list and the first of those clubs that needed to replace a manager.

The timing of the previous managers departure was strange given his backing in the summer. It was purely down clearly to Klopp's availability

And who the F**k are Bayern!!

The board should, but probably wouldn't tell the Kraut cu*ts to F***ing do one if they ever did!!

That would be left to Herr Klopp himself

By the time Ancelotti will be replaced, Kloop will likely have won the league two or three times with us, so I'd say he may agree to seek a new challenge at Bayern but it's not a big deal.

The timing of the previous managers departure was strange given his backing in the summer. It was purely down clearly to Klopp's availability

I completely disagree. Obviously the fact that Klopp and Ancelotti were both available will have come into the decision (if you can't get anyone better, no point making a change), but I think the main reasons were the form, the atmosphere, and the ever-changing tactics.

Everyone knew Klopp was available in the summer. Even if he had wanted a long break, it would not have been difficult for FSG to speak to his camp and find out if he'd be willing to join once he returned from his hiatus. If they had done that, no way do they back Rodgers fully in the summer.

I think FSG believed in Rodgers in some extent and really wanted to let him a chance, it's as simple as that.

Would LFC have been in top 4 by last october we'd never have signed Jürgen. They just reacted to his lack of results.

I completely disagree. Obviously the fact that Klopp and Ancelotti were both available will have come into the decision (if you can't get anyone better, no point making a change), but I think the main reasons were the form, the atmosphere, and the ever-changing tactics.

Everyone knew Klopp was available in the summer. Even if he had wanted a long break, it would not have been difficult for FSG to speak to his camp and find out if he'd be willing to join once he returned from his hiatus. If they had done that, no way do they back Rodgers fully in the summer.

I think Klopp himself has said he wanted a sabbatical under no circumstances was he taking a job that summer but after a few months of holidaying got restless and wanted back...Rodgers results start of last season weren't great but they weren't awful either
I can't remember who wrote the article but when Klopp joined I remember reading something from a guy that seemed to have an understanding of FSG and he was adamant Klopp was their guy from the very start they'd wanted him for years, so much so that they were willing to dispense of BR and the new coaching team he'd assembled only a few months previous as well as putting into question the position of his hand selected big money summer signing Benteke

Ffs they can't let us have a minute to enjoy our footy anymore can they?

Just when all (most of) the rumblings of our piss poor summer window and the Burnley defeat were subsiding they go and throw this our way. 

Doesn't take much for our fans to get at each others throats for anything and everything that's been wrong at the Club for the last 25yrs and here we have yet another thread for an argument to develop.

Who gives a F**k when, why, who or how Jürgen arrived, just enjoy the fact we've got him 

Ffs they can't let us have a minute to enjoy our footy anymore can they?

Just when all (most of) the rumblings of our piss poor summer window and the Burnley defeat were subsiding they go and throw this our way. 

Doesn't take much for our fans to get at each others throats for anything and everything that's been wrong at the Club for the last 25yrs and here we have yet another thread for an argument to develop.

Who gives a f**k when, why, who or how Jürgen arrived, just enjoy the fact we've got him 

What? No one is at anyone's throat as far as I can tell... it's just a discussion and, evidently, the people involved in the discussion are interested in it. I can enjoy the fact that we've got him and still have this discussion. It's hardly mutually exclusive.

I'd be more concerned if Buvac gets offered a managerial job somewhere and the braintrust gets split up.

I'd be more concerned if Buvac gets offered a managerial job somewhere and the braintrust gets split up.

Nah, the Brains will use his brain & stay put...

Just look at Pako & Rafa...Rafa has won trophies since they split,Pako won the treble with some Israeli team & now is bottom of La Liga.

Think that's a bit of a reach. I think FSG were waiting on him more than him us

FSG could have gone in for him but they stuck with Brendan for the beginning of last season.

I saw an interview with Jürgen where he said he had tons of offers but politely declined them but as soon as Liverpool came calling he couldn't turn us down. He said he already admired us as a club, the project was something that appealed to him and then when he came over he said he fell in love with the club/city immediately. He basically went on to say that he knows all of that sounds cheesy but its true.  He also said if he wanted an easier job he could have had one - think he was referring to managing a club like Bayern.

Can't remember who the interview was with now but it was in a LFC magazine I read on a plane!

Just lazy journalism , Klopp is quite clearly the obvious choice given his record in Germany and there have been many articles linking him with Bayern before as there will be many more in the future.

Will he ever end up there?  Of all the clubs with mega bucks I think that's the only one that has any draw for him, which of course is natural giving it's his home country. What would be the enormous downside, in my opinion, is that there's nothing really to build there. There's nothing extra he could bring to the model that I think would truly motivate him. I understand that during his sabbatical there were reports that he'd indicated that he'd take over from Guardiola if he wasn't extending his contract but I'm not 100% convinced of that.

I think an awful lot depends on not only how successful he can make us but how consistently successful. Look at LFC from the outside and it's simple to understand that we are the dream legacy job for any manager. Managing to restore us to the top of the perch while competing in the richest league in the world, that would be something truly special to sign off with.

Barring a spectacular downfall in form I believe Jürgen will be here for a minimum of 7 years, beyond that it's down to the relationship he'll have with us at that time. If he feels his work is done, then he'll step away, otherwise I think we could quite easily be his last job in football management. How long that truthfully would take (he'd be mid 50's then) I'm not sure and if he is in it for the long grind. Football management seems extremely hard for these folk to step away from, it's so deep in their blood having been part of their lives for so long that moving away from it, I can imagine, is extremely difficult to comprehend let alone do.

So my best advice is just enjoy it right now and for as long as he's here, if you fret about him potentially leaving you'll spoil your chance to enjoy what we're building and what we may achieve. If he ever does leave I hope he leaves behind some fantastic memories and quite a few trophies to boot.

I can't see him ever going to Bayern but there seems to be a lot more transfers between Dortmund and Bayern than any other big rivalry in European football so you never know.

I can't see him ever going to Bayern but there seems to be a lot more transfers between Dortmund and Bayern than any other big rivalry in European football so you never know.

Good point.  I don't know much about the inter-team rivalry in the Bundesliga.  Certainly seems that Dortmund-Bayern isn't like United-Liverpool.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3815452/Jürgen-Klopp-says-imagine-finishing-career-Liverpool-t-rule-return-Germany.html

Seems unlikely that he returns to Germany.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/10599764/Jürgen-klopp-ill-end-my-managerial-career-at-liverpool

Hopefully his time here will end with plenty of trophies!

It would seem the answer to the question is No.

Jürgen Klopp: I'll end my managerial career at Liverpool

Jürgen Klopp says he would be content to see out his managerial career with Liverpool but will retire in the next 10 years.

Klopp is 49 and has admitted he does not want to be "sitting on the bench at 60", which gives him 11 years in which to achieve his ambitions at Anfield.

The German celebrates a year in charge of the Reds next week and on Saturday will attempt to build on a flying start of four wins in six Premier League games when Liverpool travel to Swansea.

Klopp told Germany's RedaktionsNetwerk: "I certainly will (return to Germany) to live, but I don't know if I will be back there as a coach yet. The day will come when I say, 'thanks, it was a pleasure'.

"It's very, very unlikely that I will still be sitting on the bench when I am 60. And, if at the end of my career I only got to coach Mainz, Dortmund and Liverpool, then it will certainly have been three fantastic clubs."

Liverpool will bid for a fifth consecutive win when they visit the Liberty Stadium. Klopp's side have scored 14 goals in their past four games while Swansea have managed just a single Premier League victory this season.

That came in their opening match against Burnley, and manager Francesco Guidolin admitted he is braced for the sack if they fail to win on Saturday

ut the Swans were unlucky to lose to Manchester City last weekend and Klopp feels they are a better team than their points tally suggests.

He said: "This season we have time to analyse all the opponents properly and they play much better than four points look like.

"It's a good football-playing side with a clear plan, with different options in their style of play, good defending. If you want, it's a typical Premier League problem.

"You analyse an opponent and you think, 'Okay, that's quite strong'. They were unlucky in this situation, lucky in this situation for the opponent. We will be prepared for this game and no one should be in doubt that we know about the quality of Swansea."

Not after his comments made today anyway. You gota love the man. Since I have been supporting his great club we have never looked as good and we have Klopp to thank for this. Let's hope he finishes his career with us.

Personaqlly, I'd think it depends on the "push and pull factors' as the years roll by. I won't say for sure he will or will not leave. He has just embarked on a new project and a new challenge and in the next 3 years I don't see him moving  to Bayern unless during this period Bayern offers Klopp a super duper contract. But I'd think Klopp is not that kind of person and money may not be everything to him. If say, for some reason there's a turn of event where key players got shipped out and average quality players got ship in and we were heading downwards and Klopp got disillusioned with the management (not the club) he will dissapear faster than a flash and that's a push factor.

In short, if he did attain success in the next few years whether the owners will back him all the way for a sustainable challenge will be the deciding factor.

Unless you weren't watching us in 13/14 or during the Rafa era, then this simply isn't true.

Right now we have Sturridge, Firmino, Origi and Mane who are all amazing forwards. We never had 4 players of such quality that can act as centre forwards before. Back in those era you mentioned we have Torres or Suarez and Sturridge, but when they weren't around we didn't have much going forward. We managed because of players like Gerrard and Garcia getting goals from midfield and the odd screamer from Risse. We won big things with worse sides than we have now. The potential of our current team is very good. There is no reason we can't be a European powerhouse again and soon. If you look back when we won the champions league, we had some players in our side that wouldn't get in Klopps side, had they not aged of course. Traore and Baros were in the final. We got away with it since Gerrard was like 3 players on his own.

I don't see him moving  to Bayern I'd think Klopp is not that kind of person.

What is that supposed to mean?

Rafa once said he could never coach Chelsea or Real Madrid. When they came calling for him, off he went. Xabi Alonso is a Basque. Basques hate Real Madrid. Yet when Real came for him, off he went. The current Barcelona coach played for both Real Madrid and Barcelona, despite the animosity between the two. Mourinho trained at Barcelona and took the Real job.

I'm not criticising anyone above. I'm showing that if clubs want people badly enough, they'll come for them. And most don't refuse. Everyone wants a job, and for a football coach, the Bayern job is one of the best around, and if called upon principles, if there are any, rapidly go out the window.

What is that supposed to mean?

Rafa once said he could never coach Chelsea or Real Madrid. When they came calling for him, off he went. Xabi Alonso is a Basque. Basques hate Real Madrid. Yet when Real came for him, off he went. The current Barcelona coach played for both Real Madrid and Barcelona, despite the animosity between the two. Mourinho trained at Barcelona and took the Real job.

I'm not criticising anyone above. I'm showing that if clubs want people badly enough, they'll come for them. And most don't refuse. Everyone wants a job, and for a football coach, the Bayern job is one of the best around, and if called upon principles, if there are any, rapidly go out the window.

True, but ain't it a bit early to judge Klopp would head down that direction? As I've said earlier, whether Klopp would go in the same direction depends on what happens as the years go by and there's no certainty that it will not happen if he sees that the club is badly run, heading nowhere and on a steep decline and that he could not do a thing about it. It will in fact hasten his departure.

On the Rafa bit, nobody will ever know the real reasons for his actions until he reveals it years later when he has retired from management with his very own words. Rafa was out of job, out of action for a while and likely he needs a job to keep food on the table and more importantly to keep himself up to date with the game and I'm sure there're more reasons to that.

Will i be  bitter if Klopp ever leaves LFC for Bayern? Sad maybe, bitter no. The game has changed so much over the years that the we can expect lots of the unexpected to happen to the club and I am prepared for these to happen.

Rafa once said he could never coach Chelsea or Real Madrid.

I highly doubt Rafa ever said he wouldn't manage Real Madrid... he's always admitted to be a Madrid fan.

I haven't had time to read all the previous posts, but didn't I read somewhere that he stated he would like to retire at 60, and ad no intention of leaving Liverpool in the foreseeable future. He expects to be here at his time of retirement if wanted. He said if all he managed in his career was Mainze, Dortmund and Liverpool, he would consider it a successful career at three great clubs.
Now ask me for a link, and i haven't got one. But you heard it here first.

I honestly am struggling to understand why this thread is even relevant. With all of the optimism and feel good going around the club, why would anyone want to even discuss the thought that Klopp might want to manage Bayern.

I honestly am struggling to understand why this thread is even relevant. With all of the optimism and feel good going around the club, why would anyone want to even discuss the thought that Klopp might want to manage Bayern.

Probably similar to posters posting "stats" that Jürgen is not all that............

I highly doubt Rafa ever said he wouldn't manage Real Madrid... he's always admitted to be a Madrid fan.

That's just lfc across the water typically bullshitting and making things up to suit his agenda. Again.

there is absolutely no chance of Klopp joining Bayern. he already turned Real and Bayern down. why would he go against his philosophies and outlook as a person and sign for such an 'easy' job as he puts it? how could Liverpool scar him so much that he goes against 20+ years of shaping his mentality to sign for a superpower?

no chance. not even worth discussing.

I highly doubt Rafa ever said he wouldn't manage Real Madrid... he's always admitted to be a Madrid fan.

Not sure I remember him saying it about Chelsea to be honest. I know he called them a small club and jad the odd dig at them but that is about it.

All irrelevant. He's not going anywhere.