The January Transfer Window - Stick or Twist?

What's he like Brian?  Is he a Suarez lite? 

Presses and harries like a madman, creates his own scoring opportunities, causes defenses to make mistakes?  If he's that type of player and scoring that many goals then you could be on to something.

If he's a Benteke/Carrol type, big lump up top to aim at then maybe not.

He seems to be a proper number 9. He's definitely not somebody who could interchange across the front 3. Only watched him twice in games and the odd YouTube video but he reminds me more of a Giroud than a Suarez.

He seems to be a proper number 9. He's definitely not somebody who could interchange across the front 3. Only watched him twice in games and the odd YouTube video but he reminds me more of a Giroud than a Suarez.

Giroud? No thanks

despite what some would have you think when they go fishing and looking to further their (very strange) agenda.

I'm interested in who these "some" are and what agenda you are alluding to?

I've not seen any clues of some conspiracy by posters so I'm confused as to who you are talking about and what their supposed agenda is.

He seems to be a proper number 9. He's definitely not somebody who could interchange across the front 3. Only watched him twice in games and the odd YouTube video but he reminds me more of a Giroud than a Suarez.

Cheers mate, then he's not for us.

Anybody regularly watch Dutch football?

People assume we need to be signing big names to improve our squad, we don't. Take Nicolai Jorgenson at Feyenoord. Could probably get him for around 7 million, a striker with 12 goals and 8 assists this year. 6'3.  Worth a punt?

If it didn't work your down a few quid, but if it does work what might it get us??

Cant stand all this there's nothing out there, there's always something out there.

Of course there's always 'something' out there. Doesn't mean that that 'something' is good enough for us.

Janssen scored like 25 in 34 games last season (he cost £17 million or something?). Doesn't get a look in at Spurs and when he does play, he's sh*te. Jörgensen, at 26 years old, isn't good enough either and will cost roughly the same. Mcarz is right, he's as pure a number 9 as they come. Scoring in the Dutch Eredivisie is easy. Anyone can score 20+ a season there. Just have to look at the list of topscorers of the last ten years. The only player to have made the grade is Suarez. The rest was nothing special at all and would struggle to get into a Premier League relegation side. There are a few talented players in that league for sure, but it takes someone really special to make it at the top level and in my opinion, there are very, very few players currenty playing there that will make it to the top.

One of them is Kasper Dolberg, he's brilliant. If he keeps developing, he's going to make it I think and he is one who would suit Klopp's system.

It's the exact same with the Belgian Jupiler Pro League, you can almost straight from the start see which player is going to make it. The rest isn't good enough for the top. De Bruyne for example was tearing the league apart at the age of 18, he was simply amazing.

Cheers mate, then he's not for us.

See why is that? I wouldn't say Klopp is against forwards who are just forwards. It isn't a Klopp philosophy to have a load of number 10s occupying the forward positions.

At Dortmund he had Lewondowski, Immobile and Aubamayang who played as the out and out forward more often than not

It's only really since taking over at Liverpool that he has filled the team with more natural number 10s and players who can play along the front 3.

That to me though is him making use of the squad that we have rather than a Klopp style.

It's becoming a bit of a cliché position of the club to sign these 'can play anywhere along the front 3 or just in behind' types.

A player who can score close to a goal a game is worth more than utility value, especially if like Firmino and Origi their versatility is somewhat questionable.

Now I don't like the way we play when we have a big man like Benteke or Carroll, but I'd hate the club to be turning down out and out strikers types like Aguero or Costa if they were to become available because they can't play on the sides.

They would improve any team.

See why is that? I wouldn't say Klopp is against forwards who are just forwards. It isn't a Klopp philosophy to have a load of number 10s occupying the forward positions.

At Dortmund he had Lewondowski, Immobile and Aubamayang who played as the out and out forward.

It's only really since taking over at Liverpool that he has filled the team with more natural number 10s and players who can play along the front 3.

That to me though is him making use of the squad that we have rather than a Klopp style.

It's becoming a bit of a cliché position of the club to sign these 'can play anywhere along the front 3 or just in behind' types.

A player who can score close to a goal a game is worth more than utility value, especially if like Firmino and Origi their versatility is somewhat questionable.

Now I don't like the way we play when we have a big man like Benteke or Carroll, but I'd hate the club to be turning down out and out strikers because they can't play on the sides.

Not what I said at all but carry on.

Not what I said at all but carry on.

Well it is somewhere close because Brian said he was a proper number 9 who can't interchange along the front 3 and then you say he's not for us 

6 months of Jermaine Defoe would do me. Makes absolutely no business sense, old and as unfashionable as they come but would bang in the chances when they came to him.

Well it is somewhere close because Brian said he was a proper number 9 who can't interchange along the front 3 and then you say he's not for us 

There's nothing wrong with a proper No.9 mate ie one who scores lots of goals, put's themselves about, causes defences nightmares, pressures them into making mistakes and creates openings for those goal thingys to be scored. 

That's the type of No.9 we need, a Suarez lite, not another Benteke/Carrol.

If he's the Suarez type, F***ing fantastic, sign him, otherwise what's the point!!

There's nothing wrong with a proper No.9 mate ie one who scores lots of goals, put's themselves about, causes defences nightmares, pressures them into making mistakes and creates openings for those goal thingys to be scored. 

That's the type of No.9 we need, a Suarez lite, not another Benteke/Carrol.

If he's the Suarez type, F***ing fantastic, sign him, otherwise what's the point!!

I agree, but are we going to bother testing the market either this window or probably more importantly, next?

When Ings is back fit are we just going to settle for that lineup and put the hard working, goal shy Firmino back up front?

Been tearing my hair out at the forward play we've had to endure from Origi and Firmino of late, plus the unpleasant bonus of Sturridge being unable to assert his presence on games.

Seems to me specialist positions on the pitch, where there is a lack of credible candidates and the price for those candidates has therefore rocketed up, IE Full backs, Strikers and to an extent goalkeepers have seen the club look to solve the problem in different ways.

We've put Milner at left back rather than shelling out for a specialist, and put 3 10-15 goal a season players in Firmino, Coutinho and Mane rather than competing with the big boys for those expensive strikers or gambling on somebody unproven.

People can scoff at Giroud if they want to but his link up play is a real bonus for Arsenal but more importantly he has got them goals in games where their vast array of fast and creative types have failed.

I agree, but are we going to bother testing the market either this window or probably more importantly, next?

When Ings is back fit are we just going to settle for that lineup and put the hard working, goal shy Firmino back up front?

Been tearing my hair out at the forward play we've had to endure from Origi and Firmino of late, plus the unpleasant bonus of Sturridge being unable to assert his presence on games.

Seems to me specialist positions on the pitch, where there is a lack of credible candidates and the price for those candidates has therefore rocketed up, IE Full backs, Strikers and to an extent goalkeepers have seen the club look to solve the problem in different ways.

We've put Milner at left back rather than shelling out for a specialist, and put 3 10-15 goal a season players in Firmino, Coutinho and Mane rather than competing with the big boys for those expensive strikers or gambling on somebody unproven.

People can scoff at Giroud if they want to but his link up play is a real bonus for Arsenal but more importantly he has got them goals in games where their vast array of fast and creative types have failed.

I'd have thought so mate.  Origi is still young, Danny just isn't cutting it and Ings having yet another serious injury has left us short but for all Firmino's been misfiring of late he's also been moved out of his preferred position and has been missing Coutinho's and Lallana's trickery.

Whoever comes in has to replace Firmino's pressing and harrying because without it the rest doesn't function properly, as well as score 20 plus goals a season and that's going to be a tough find.

What's he like Brian?  Is he a Suarez lite? 

Presses and harries like a madman, creates his own scoring opportunities, causes defenses to make mistakes?  If he's that type of player and scoring that many goals then you could be on to something.

If he's a Benteke/Carrol type, big lump up top to aim at then maybe not.

Hi debs. No I don't watch much Dutch football just some highlights. This lad stands out.

To me if I was to make a comparison to a premier league player id say Harry Kane

Hi debs. No I don't watch much Dutch football just some highlights. This lad stands out.

To me if I was to make a comparison to a premier league player id say Harry Kane

Am I the only one who wouldn't mind a Kane, Giroud type striker. They both score for fun, in the case of Giroud especially in the 89th minute to win games. I wouldn't mind that but it would depend on the price. Long term I to want a Suarez clone

Hi debs. No I don't watch much Dutch football just some highlights. This lad stands out.

To me if I was to make a comparison to a premier league player id say Harry Kane

Kames record says it all. He's a big guy, but Spurs don't play hoof ball. Works hard, good in the air and his stats speak for themselves.

Sometimes bigger strikers can thrive even in a team with short passing.

Berahino going to Stoke for £10M which seems a bargain when you consider what we got got for Ibe.

Berahino going to Stoke for £10M which seems a bargain when you consider what we got got for Ibe.

It could rise to £15m though and his contract is running out this summer.

Am I the only one who wouldn't mind a Kane, Giroud type striker. They both score for fun, in the case of Giroud especially in the 89th minute to win games.

Exactly what I was thinking. Can't see any harm in anyone who can score goals at the rate these two do.

Exactly what I was thinking. Can't see any harm in anyone who can score goals at the rate these two do.

Kane and Giroud are not similar just because they are both tall.

Kane is constantly on the move, closing down from the front, runs the channels, as for Giroud well he does none of the mentioned.

Hi debs. No I don't watch much Dutch football just some highlights. This lad stands out.

To me if I was to make a comparison to a premier league player id say Harry Kane

Somebody like Kane would be fine.  He's an all rounder, not the paciest but at least he moves.

Seen Markovic trending on twitter and rumours abound that he is on his way back to Liverpool after Sporting cancelled the loan. Not impressed if this is true but can I be surprised? Probably not. Caught a glimpse of him when I saw him during the second half of the Huddersfield friendly in the summer. Embarrassing that he was utterly impotent and invisible in a team full of reserve and youth players.

Seen Markovic trending on twitter and rumours abound that he is on his way back to Liverpool after Sporting cancelled the loan. Not impressed if this is true but can I be surprised? Probably not. Caught a glimpse of him when I saw him during the second half of the Huddersfield friendly in the summer. Embarrassing that he was utterly impotent and invisible in a team full of reserve and youth players.

Ahh F**k did we not sell that clown for good?

Heres to half the forum now calling for him to given his long deserved chance under Klopp.

F**k me!

Ahh f**k did we not sell that clown for good?

Heres to half the forum now calling for him to given his long deserved chance under Klopp.

F**k me!

Klopp did give him a chance.

Klopp did give him a chance.

Honestly I had forgotten all about him this season. I was slightly bemused by Rodgers decision to send him out on loan in the summer of 2015 and thought that he deserved a good look under Klopp. Clearly he did take a good look of him in the summer and was mightily unimpressed by his piss poor attitude. Don't doubt that there's a player with good technical skill there, something he showed at Benfica in the season before he joined Liverpool but its becoming clear that the attitude stinks and that we'll be lucky to get half of what we paid for him.