Liverpool side 2013-14 v 2016-17 - Who wins?

Gerrard was at his peak when Torres was up front, not Suarez.

He had a decent enough season in 2013-14 - he probably should have left at the end of it rather than being made a mug of in his final season with us.

Don't see why people need to make a big argument out of the one player though - team sport remember.  Actually, even though he was definitely past his peak I'd probably have Gerrard from that season and Henderson from this in a good collection of the team.

After that Suarez in for say Firmino, Sturridge 13-14 in for Lallana.  Three definites from the 2013-14 side.

The current side 7/10 times for me for 3 reasons: 

1.  We are a more complete side now.  We aren't over reliant not any 1 or 2 players and we can punish teams with our press, on the counter, and/or after a spell of sustained possession. 

2.  We have more of a "winning mentality" this season.  It starts with the manager and transfers through to the players and fans.  Even if we go a goal or two down, I still have complete faith that we will mount a comeback.  While we were scintillating  few seasons back, I seem to remember we were very jittery every time we had to play from behind. 

3.  Statistically speaking, Suarez would have been banned for 2 or 3 of the 10 games and Sturgeon would have been on the treatment table for 5 of them!!   

Oh. One final thing before I do stop replying to your gibberish, we also won plenty of games that season without Luis too.

We won 3 out of 5, all 1-0. First 3 games.

I said he helped bring the best out of Luis and Danny. I didn't say he was the sole reason. I said he helped.

Whenever somebody praises Gerrard on here you call them a child. It's bizarre.

Gerrard played well in the 13-14 season, I went to 19 home games and 4 aways that's season. I remember it well.

You can disagree because you obviously have an agenda against him like I've said. So we will leave it there.

Oh. One final thing before I do stop replying to your gibberish, we also won plenty of games that season without Luis too.

Not calling anyone who calls Gerrard a child - just you. You remember it well? Patently not.

The more expensive team, with the better manager, for me but only just...

This team with a Luis Suarez?....

Ho. Lee. F**k! 

The more expensive team with the better manager, for me but only just...

This team with a Luis Suarez?....

Ho. Lee. F**k! 

And I think Suarez would of enjoyed playing for Jürgen Klopp and our curreny squad,he would be a revelation.

The "weird" thing is the amount of 'Rodgers' signings in each team (in o. p.).

Although (for me) the progression is more about from last season to now. Anyways...

Thank F**k for evolution. 

And I think Suarez would of enjoyed playing for Jürgen Klopp and our curreny squad,he would be a revelation.

I'm glad you agree Billy. We'd scare the sh*te out of teams and win games without kicking a ball. 

The main difference is not on the pitch.

Jürgen Klopp

so, 16/17 wins easely 

Correct... But If the 2013/14 side had Klopp I would have to go for them... Still not really sure... I would give it to the 2013/14 team given that there where IMO better teams around then and player wise in the whole the premier league was better... In that Year 2013/14,With the team Leicester City had last season, they not win the Premier League due to the strength of it back then....

Correct... But If the 2013/14 side had Klopp I would have to go for them... Still not really sure... I would give it to the 2013/14 team given that there where IMO better teams around then and player wise in the whole the premier league was better... In that Year 2013/14,With the team Leicester City had last season, they not win the Premier League due to the strength of it back then....

2013/14 Utd had Moyes, Pocch was still at Saints and Maureen had just taken over the disaster of Di Matteo.
And City had the gentleman.

Compare that to now.

I have to go with our current team.

I think if you take into account the depth of the squad as well then our current team wins it hands down. The fact that one of our star players of 13/14 now finds himself on the bench show's how well we are playing.

In a straight shoot out though we are seeing the mignolet vs karius one played out at present and although the jury is still out on Karius I think we all want to see him in goal ahead of Migs although not forgetting Mignolet won player of the month for us in September of that season.

Some other players stepped up their game too, Skrtel scored 7 goals for us in the 13/14 season. That's 3 more than Coutinho and Henderson.

If I was making a starting XI out of the two I would go with:

                Karius
Clyne     Matip       Lovren      Milner

         Gerrard        Henderson
                Coutinho
Mane           Suarez        Firmino

Other than Suarez and Gerrard I wouldn't change a thing!

2013/14 Utd had Moyes, Pocch was still at Saints and Maureen had just taken over the disaster of Di Matteo.
And City had the gentleman.

Compare that to now.

True, but Pep, Mourinho, Conte are all in their first season. Despite the resources they have, if one of them wins the league this season it would be a good achievement.

Jürgen is obviously a big factor when comparing our current side to our 13-14 one. I liked Brendan but he couldn't grasp how to win when it mattered most. Jürgen on the other hand knows how to win big games. That reason alone, I think this team will go further than what our 13-14 side did.

Jürgen is obviously a big factor when comparing our current side to our 13-14 one. I liked Brendan but he couldn't grasp how to win when it mattered most. Jürgen on the other hand knows how to win big games.

Just to play devils advocate and not to be a dick...

Klopp has an awful record in finals so that isn't necessarily true.

Difficult one this,  both sides were/are very good and you could make a good argument for both hence the debate,  but I think the telling difference is the managers,  so for this reason I'm going our current unfinished X1,
It has been mentioned above about how Klopp's record in finals isn't the best,  I can't remember too many finals we reached under TPM, and it's safe to say we will be in a few more under Jürgen,

So I'm in the 16/17 camp.


YNWA

The real difference, apart from the massive upgrade in manager, is the defence, this team actually has one. In midfield and attack I'd say its probably pretty even.

Should have seen Loris yesterday he was Ace.

He had f**k all to do in a one sided game! Everything he did you'd expect from any keeper!

It'd depend what sort of mood Suarez was in, in truth. As a team, no contest, this current group of lads is the best I've seen in my 16 years following Liverpool.

He had f**k all to do in a one sided game! Everything he did you'd expect from any keeper!

Is that right? 

https://twitter.com/BassTunedToRed/status/795537873944674304

Yeah he did F**k all Im sure you could have deputised 

I'd take the 13/14 Flanno for balance - as well as Milner has played.

I think this is a better team than 2013/14 - more balanced and goals coming from all over the park, we were far to reliant on Suarez and Studge two years ago.

That team came mighty close better that campaign and the title was ours.  In fact that team would have walked the league last season.  I think this team is better it has a defense which is improving all the time, unlike the previous team.  But that team had a much better strike force the SAS were clinical. This team is a lot more balanced with a far better manager. 

The 16/17 team would probably win 6-5

Would take Suarez in a heartbeat - imagine him in this side, we would be unstoppable... Gerrard, in his prime was just world class, simple as that.

Add those two into this side and we would be humiliating teams weekly - not beating them, humiliating them. Would back us for almost everything with Klopp managing us.