Firmino facing drink-driving charge

Only if he commits a foul in the penalty area and we don't have a biased ref.And he hasn't been on the ouzo.

In case he has been on this stuff his urine sample will be giving off a telltale aniseed scent!

In case he has been on this stuff his urine sample will be giving off aniseed scent!

I am fully aware of the effects ouzo has on you having first sampled it in the John Bull Bar in Piraeus  many years ago.apologies if I have spelt Piraeus wrong.

I am fully aware of the effects ouzo has on you having first sampled it in the John Bull Bar in Piraeus  many years ago.apologies if I have spelt Piraeus wrong.

It is correct.

Since you hang off every word I post you can go and tell him.

Got yourself a stalker

Got yourself a stalker

F***ing 'bout time

Got yourself a stalker

Here comes the little yap, on cue...

How's Mehdi? 

Doesn't matter if your are 1 or 10 units over.
The fact is that if you drink and drive you are an idiot.
In the day and age of taxi or uber there really is no excuse
If you can't afford to get driven or if you can, the point remains, you don't drink and drive.
Not a hard thing to understand.

Maybe he had a glass of wine with lunch believing he was staying within the confines of the law and it was a honest mistake on the size of the glass?

We don't know the details.

Sakho made a mistake with his pills, he seems to have been judged differently....?

From all accounts it was more than one, Sakho 'has' been treat harshly imo & it could have been handled better, but to me its Klopp stamping down his Authority for a number of indiscretions rather than the pills, had Sakho been the model professional during pre-season, I very much doubt we'd be comparing situations.

WTF has how much he earns a week got to do with things? Is it OK to DD if you're on minimum wage? Look, he's been silly, got caught and the courts will deal with him. Seriously people ought to calm down, ridiculous over reaction in my view.

Agree.

Gents - both spot on.

Honestly don't see any correlation between this and Sakho's situation.

Bobby has made an error of judegement in his personal life and will be dealt with by the law. There's no excuse for drink driving - and I say that as an old fella who hasn't always followed the just above zero limits we have up here now. In the distant past I've driven after a pint or two and the truth is it's stupid and selfish. We have laws for a reason and the club has rules for a reason - these will both be enforced as appropriate. That's right and proper. 

He isn't the first and won't be the last. On a human level I hope he learns his lesson and realises that what he did was not acceptable.

On a moral level - there's no comparison with what Sakho did. Bobby was reckless and Sakho was just downright f***in' dumb. Bobby's rap sheet however is blemishless (to date) and by all accounts he's a stupendously hard worker on the training ground (we can all see that on the pitch).

Where (in my opinion) the big distinction comes (for a professional football club) is that Sakho put a substance into his body that hadn't been ok'd by the medical team. Moreover he did it for his own vanity OR because he hadn't been "living the life" of a professional athlete.........why else use a f#ckin' fat burner? He then compounds that lack of professionalism by ponying up late for the US tour and then constantly dicking about........that's a litany of offences and that why he's ball deep in sh*t.......not one transgression.

Let the law take it's course then let the club deal with it internally then let them announce (if appropriate) what action they're taking.

Changed times re drink driving. Remember Kenny practically (possibly actually!) chaffeuring Jan Molby from prison for drink driving.......and I don't recall anybody questioning Kenny's moral fibre........?

Reading this thread reminds me what a wonderfully, glorious and Divine thing forgiveness is.

I say this from the perspective of one who has been forgiven...much.

Those who think the Club should have made a statement, seem to have forgotten one basic thing, in this country you are presumed innocent until found guilty in a court of law. It's my understanding that he is due in court on January 31st. The club will not release any statement until the court case has concluded and a decision has been given, quite rightly too.
Mistakes have been known to happen in regard to breathalysers, so perhaps we should halt the public hanging until we know all the facts!

I assume the club are waiting for the court case to be concluded before dealing with this matter. As it should be. How it's dealt with, should reflect the scale of what the court hands down.

He doesn't have any excuse. It's not good enough to say that nobody was hurt, there are laws that apply to the offence for good reason. It's a bit tricky though to suggest he do community service, given that he doesn't (or probably doesnt want to) speak English, but whether he understands the seriousness of what he did or not, the club has to be seen to make an example of him, but only after the courts have reached a judgement and applied the relevant action.

I assume the club are waiting for the court case to be concluded before dealing with this matter. As it should be. How it's dealt with, should reflect the scale of what the court hands down.

He doesn't have any excuse. It's not good enough to say that nobody was hurt, there are laws that apply to the offence for good reason. It's a bit tricky though to suggest he do community service, given that he doesn't (or probably doesnt want to) speak English, but whether he understands the seriousness of what he did or not, the club has to be seen to make an example of him, but only after the courts have reached a judgement and applied the relevant action.

You assume the club will hold fire until a decision is made by the courts, which is fair enough and is as it should be.
Why then do you also assume the club has to make an example of him?
Had a look on the manc site and they have a thread devoted to Firmino being collared, to give some impression of not scapegoating it is titled 'Footballers who drink and drive' or some such anonymous title; the only person mentioned however is Firmino and they want him jailed and banned from driving and football!!

You too are advising a judgement concerned with him being well over the limit and in serious breach of the law, you think it right the club should not jump the gun so why do you?

Those who think the Club should have made a statement, seem to have forgotten one basic thing, in this country you are presumed innocent until found guilty in a court of law. It's my understanding that he is due in court on January 31st. The club will not release any statement until the court case has concluded and a decision has been given, quite rightly too.
Mistakes have been known to happen in regard to breathalysers, so perhaps we should halt the public hanging until we know all the facts!

Bravo a bit of sense .

You assume the club will hold fire until a decision is made by the courts, which is fair enough and is as it should be.
Why then do you also assume the club has to make an example of him?
Had a look on the manc site and they have a thread devoted to Firmino being collared, to give some impression of not scapegoating it is titled 'Footballers who drink and drive' or some such anonymous title; the only person mentioned however is Firmino and they want him jailed and banned from driving and football!!

You too are advising a judgement concerned with him being well over the limit and in serious breach of the law, you think it right the club should not jump the gun so why do you?

Of course they do, they're dumb as a bag of rocks. Why would he be jailed? 

Maybe he had a glass of wine with lunch believing he was staying within the confines of the law and it was a honest mistake on the size of the glass?

We don't know the details.

Doubtful.

Merseyside Police have confirmed that the 25-year-old was arrested after his car was pulled over in Liverpool city centre in the early hours of December, 24.

Doubtful.

Know what you're saying mate about 3 or 4 in the morning and getting pulled by the buzzes, different age groups will have been indulging in different activities; rampant young Latino footy players would hardly be getting wrecked with pisshead mates while the choice  of the fairer sex is as easy as it is.

Doubtful.

Dunno its an inaccurate test, i know seasoned drinkers who've passed them after 4/5 pints, Firminho is a professional athlete at the peak of his fitness levels, with low body fat and probably rarely consumes alcohol.

No excuse, just saying its not the same for every individual.

Dunno its an inaccurate test, i know seasoned drinkers who've passed them after 4/5 pints, Firminho is a professional athlete at the peak of his fitness levels, with low body fat and probably rarely consumes alcohol.

No excuse, just saying its not the same for every individual.

This will be blood alcohol level, IMO, to drive, it should be zero.

Whether you are Fatty McFat, or Skinny O'Skinny, you don't drink and drive.

Whether you are Fatty McFat, or Skinny O'Skinny, you don't drink and drive.

Exactly, as much as people need to stop condemming him, people need to stop trying to make excuses for his actions. What he did was legally, and morally wrong. Let the law deal with it in its own way and move on.

Exactly, as much as people need to stop condemming him, people need to stop trying to make excuses for his actions. What he did was legally, and morally wrong. Let the law deal with it in its own way and move on.

To be fare o haven't seen anyone making excuses for his actions as most have said the law will deal with him , it's the ones who want his arms and legs removed ,people are not agreeing with .