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      Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29

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      Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Nov 14, 2008 01:24:36 am
      From The Times

      November 13, 2008
      Rafael BenĂ­tez angers Liverpool owners yet again
      American tycoons believe manager has forced them into a corner after revealing contract pledge

      Oliver Kay

      Rafael Benítez has irked Liverpool’s American owners yet again by making public their pledge to discuss a new contract. Although the ailing regime of Tom Hicks and George Gillett Jr appears to be in its final throes, weakened initially by internal conflicts and far more critically by the global credit crunch, the tycoons have again found common ground in disapproval of Benítez.

      Having finally been given encouragement last week to believe that Hicks and Gillett would agree to discuss a new contract, Benítez, who has repeatedly been asked about his future in recent months, confirmed in an interview with the Liverpool Echo that “they gave me their word” and that he expected talks to start some time this week. The conciliatory message had come from Hicks, but he and Gillett were frustrated that it was broadcast to the media so quickly, increasing their feeling that they are being forced into a corner by Benítez.

      Benítez has rarely deferred to the club’s owners, who planned to sack him a year ago and replace him with Jürgen Klinsmann, who is now in charge of Bayern Munich, but his dangerous games of brinkmanship have strengthened his position at Liverpool. To the surprise of everyone but himself, he survived the unedifying power struggle that consumed the club last season and, after an impressive start to the season, is in a sufficiently powerful position to have been able to force contract discussions on to the agenda. Previously Hicks had alluded to a one-year extension to Benítez’s existing £2.6 million-a-year deal, which expires in June 2010, but Gillett, having taken their fallouts more personally, had been opposed to the idea.

      Preliminary discussions between Rick Parry, the chief executive, and Benítez’s agent, Manuel García Quilón, are due to take place in the coming days, but, with the parties likely to be far apart on the size and length of any contract, it may be that Liverpool are under new ownership by the time the matter is resolved. Hicks and Gillett are looking to sell the club and, amid an increasingly unforgiving financial climate, there is a growing belief that they are ready to drop their asking price from £550 million to £500 million. This is close to sums that have been offered by Sheikh Mohammed, the ruler of Dubai, and another unidentified Arab consortium.

      Hicks and Gillett remain hopeful that they will succeed in persuading Royal Bank of Scotland to grant a six-month extension to their ÂŁ350 million refinancing loan, which expires on January 25, but there have not yet been any such guarantees from the bank, which has been so hard hit by the credit crunch that it is set to be 60 per cent owned by the Government. Even if they are granted a six-month extension, Hicks and Gillett have little or no prospect of taking the club forward, having failed to raise the additional ÂŁ350 million required for the construction of a new stadium.


      Bollocks to this.  The article about contract discussions was posted 8 days ago on the OFFICIAL website.
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #1: Nov 14, 2008 01:31:22 am
      Load of crap. Rafa has their number in these kind of situations anyway. He knows exactly how to act and what to say.


      But the question still remains ...

      ... can he put a fruit pastel in his mouth without chewing it?
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #2: Nov 14, 2008 01:39:45 am
      The saga continues then with the gruesome twosome claiming Rafa over stepped the mark again

      Will the re finance go through for them and continue Rafa's misery, will DIC take over and let Rafa rule

      ....Only smarties have the answer
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #3: Nov 14, 2008 01:41:14 am
      Now the official website is shafting Rafa as well.

      Poor fella. 

      These Americans are a pair of beauts.
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #4: Nov 14, 2008 01:46:00 am
      Now the official website is shafting Rafa as well.

      Poor fella. 

      These Americans are a pair of beauts.

      I don't see anything there :-\
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #5: Nov 14, 2008 01:47:14 am
      Another enjoyable read concernin the off field antics of our club.  :f_tongueincheek:
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #6: Nov 14, 2008 02:27:26 am
      .... i hate those americans....
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      Reply #7: Nov 14, 2008 05:51:02 am
      IMO Rafa shouldnt have made it public. He has nothing to gain. why not wait patiently
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #8: Nov 14, 2008 07:28:33 am
      IMO Rafa shouldnt have made it public. He has nothing to gain. why not wait patiently
      IMO RAFA had every right to go public we have a right to know what is going on at the club.Tom and George should know all about the land of the free  and peoples right to free speech.
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #9: Nov 14, 2008 07:51:11 am
      I dont see where they got information from. Not even a, 'source close to Hicks and Gillett', mentioned anywhere.

      And anyway, even if this crap was true then Rafa has every right to think of himself and stop the media making wacky presumptions of no conract coming his way and can talk solely on football.
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #10: Nov 14, 2008 07:55:04 am
      Yet again another article in the press with no quotes from anyone who might be in the know about the situation. This is just pure speculation by the press and an easy way to get at us and try and unsettle the manager and the club.

      Oliver Kay is a prize twit with an "a"
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #11: Nov 14, 2008 07:55:25 am

      stunning post..... really well thought out and clever,  if any of your other 3 posts are as high quality as this, we are all in for a treat........  your a joke.   Is it too hard to just say you hate them???   gotta say American?!  Yeah they are Tw4tsies but  I am proud to be an American so show a little respect.
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #12: Nov 14, 2008 08:02:36 am
      stunning post..... really well thought out and clever,  if any of your other 3 posts are as high quality as this, we are all in for a treat........  your a joke.   Is it too hard to just say you hate them???   gotta say American?!  Yeah they are Tw4tsies but  I am proud to be an American so show a little respect.

      To be fair, he meant George and Tom when he says 'THOSE Americans'. He didnt say 'I hate Americans'.
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #13: Nov 14, 2008 09:27:54 am
      stunning post..... really well thought out and clever,  if any of your other 3 posts are as high quality as this, we are all in for a treat........  your a joke.   Is it too hard to just say you hate them???   gotta say American?!  Yeah they are Tw4tsies but  I am proud to be an American so show a little respect.

      Don't be so touchy.  I think I said these americans are a pair of beauts.  I was hardly referring to the entire country - just to these two morons.
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #14: Nov 14, 2008 09:55:10 am
      Now the official website is shafting Rafa as well.

      Poor fella. 

      These Americans are a pair of beauts.


      The original article was on the LFC website on the 8th November 2008.

      http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/archivedirs/news/2008/nov/8/N162013081108-0739.htm
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #15: Nov 14, 2008 02:49:03 pm
      What do you expect from the Sun !! in all but fcuking name owned by the same people same journalists used by both papers same hatred from within there broadsheets aimed at us. More fcuking bullshite from a bullshite broadsheet...
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #16: Nov 14, 2008 03:02:17 pm
      Just this minute on SSN I've seen Rafa saying that no talks have started but his agent and the yanks are in talks to sort out 'talks'.

      First of all, if the yanks are angry at such talk, then we can expect even more hassle in the coming weeks.

      But as already suggested, that article doesn't seem to throw much evidence. I think O Kay has got his wooden spoon out again.
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #17: Nov 14, 2008 03:15:13 pm
      why argue of it lets wait and see

      no point talking about the yanks
      they cant find a truth in them selves

      just wait and see ;D
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      Re: Rafa in trouble with the Yanks - part 29
      Reply #18: Nov 14, 2008 03:50:41 pm
      stunning post..... really well thought out and clever,  if any of your other 3 posts are as high quality as this, we are all in for a treat........  your a joke.   Is it too hard to just say you hate them???   gotta say American?!  Yeah they are Tw4tsies but  I am proud to be an American so show a little respect.

      What respect, for a country that thinks it can do what it likes, when it likes.....as shown by those two gobshites!!

      Well the almighty dollar ain't going to win this war

      YANKS OUT!!

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