We do embrace fans from all over the world and there are a lot of knowledgeable and good lads and ladies from all over the world who contribute to this very forum. We wouldn't be as big as we still are whilst not winning that much of late without the support of our worldwide fan base which the likes of the great sides of the 70's and 80's got us and then the European wins of the 00/01 and 04/05 seasons to boot. I just think the people who pay out on the season tickets had it a bit easier and maybe even got rewarded if not even a bit of loyalty and reward.
The club is now too hell bent on the financial aspects that they atmosphere is suffering as there are now too many day trippers that the club want travelling here on their hols with a fat wallet that they're not afraid to spend whilst being caught up in the nostalgia and glitz of it all.
You can f**k off with those as well.
by Gareth Roberts // 24 March 2015 // 30 Comments
YOU can tell me there are more important issues in football in 2015; that in the grand scheme of things it matters little. You can say itâs harmless, insignificant, a mere side issue when held up alongside things that need tackling with urgency: like spiraling ticket prices for example.
You can tell me that the game has changed. That itâs not the 80s or the 90s. That football culture has moved on, that society is different. You can say all that. But if you say it to me wearing a scarf that is half Liverpool and half Manchester United you wonât be taken seriously for one single second. How can anyone be taken seriously offering opinions on football culture wearing that?
Despite the odd attempts to downplay the game in some parts of the national media last week, a game between Liverpool and Manchester United is one that always matters. One that supporters at either end of that crap motorway everyone likes to reference are desperate to win. Itâs never ever a bald man fighting over a comb. Itâs never ever meaningless. And itâs the last fixture on earth that should have a half and half scarf made for it. Nobody in the world can seriously support Liverpool AND Manchester United. How can you? Itâs a long-standing deeply ingrained rivalry. Youâre one or the other. So why choose to carry around a traditional item of support featuring both names and both badges? Itâs just downright weird.
Ah, yes, you might say. But itâs just a souvenir. Itâs like buying the programme or a pin badge. But itâs not. Not to me. Iâm well aware it is just a piece of material but itâs what it represents. When I go to Anfield I want to be surrounded by a baying partisan ballsy crowd â a group of people that wants to urge on Liverpool no matter what, that will shake a fist, scream and shout, appeal, intimidate the referee and show the bas**rds at the other end of the ground how much we care.
If youâre stood at Anfield with that thing above your head with Manchester United lining up as the opposition, as people were, in a game that despite all the santisation and supposed changes of mindsets remains gloriously hate-filled, passionate and important, then you fundamentally donât understand what football is about as far as Iâm concerned.
Everyone has been banging on about Steven Gerrardâs sending off but thereâs no real debate is there? The tackle he threw in was glorious. The stamp that followed was stupid. Why did he do it? Because he was like a coiled spring after watching Liverpoolâs hated rivals boss a half at Anfield. Heâs a fan as well as a player. A local lad. A man who got a clip from his dad for putting on a United shirt as a kid. He knows how much it means. Is it really too much to ask that people turning up at Anfield for arguably the biggest home game of the season recognise the same? Would Gerrard wear a half and half scarf? Exactly.
I realise here that I may be treading into âproper fanâ territory, as detailed by Martin Fitzgerald yesterday. But so be it â no, there arenât rules, but there is common sense, there is pride and there is an identity and tradition to uphold. The Scousers v Wools debate is not something Iâm looking to get into â if you want that itâs on the same old forums in the same old places. The ground contains both. Thatâs been the case for a very long time and itâs not going to change anytime soon.
I recognise the globalisation of football. I understand people come from all over the world to watch Liverpool. The club has helped to put the city on the map. As Iâve written before, Iâm broadly sound with it â you canât knock the commitment involved for those that truly love the club to follow the team from so far away. There are people who âget itâ from all over the world. And there are people who oh so blatantly donât.
Slap bang among those that fundamentally donât âget itâ are people with those scarves â a product that for grown adults wearing them basically announces them as a consumer of football, not a lover of it; not a supporter in the truest and most traditional sense of the word.
That Liverpool and United are rivals is everywhere. Surely the aggressive marketing that tempts in the experience hunters mentions that? Broadcasters never fail to bring it up. The papers do too. Itâs omnipresent, in your face. So again â why would you want to wear something carrying the mark of the rival while standing in The Kop? It can only be that youâre a bucket lister. That you want to go to one of the biggest sporting occasions in the world and say you were there. Fine. But still â why would you want to stand out as someone who couldnât be arsed to give even a cursory nod towards a long-standing, and at times extremely bitter, rivalry? Would you go to Barca-Real and buy a half and half? The Milan derby? Celtic-Rangers? Liverpool-Everton? OhâŚ
Iâve got no problem in saying that if a bucket lister with no real interest in Liverpool occupies match-day space at the expense of someone who wants to sing, shout and back the team they love, then thatâs a damn shame. I accept it is the reality of the situation. Touts are cashing in on these people. The club is tempting them with ridiculously priced travel packages. Our own fans are flogging seats for games such as these to fleece the clueless and pay for their own tickets for other games. All feed the problem.
I have no solutions â I appreciate the difficulties. I donât know how you change it, but it doesnât mean it isnât a frustrating phenomenon â particularly as so many who live and breathe the game are priced out and will soon be joined by many more as the pricesâ continual upward trajectory marches forward on trend.
Thomas Cook â advertising its âOfficial Liverpool FC Match Breaksâ â says this: âThe unmistakable sight of Anfield as you emerge through the rows of terraced houses is an amazing spectacle. Once you enter the football stadium youâre presented with a wall of red from the Kop end, which will surely immerse you into the culture and spirit of the prestigious football club.â
Well guess what? The culture and spirit of the prestigious football club has not involved half and half scarves. Itâs involved red and white ones. Or scarves with the name Liverpool on. Scarves with the Liverbird on, not a f**king Red Devil. Youâve come to say you were at Liverpool? At Anfield? Get a Liverpool souvenir then. If you want something with that other name on, go there and get it.
The culture and spirit of the prestigious football club has not often featured group selfies being taken on The Kop when Liverpool have a corner on 80-odd minutes against Manchester United. That happened. Right behind me. The songs, the banners â the intense, ear popping, hair-raising support that we have been part of down the years? That wasnât generated by bucket listers who talk all the way through the game and donât even know the names of the players performing in front of them. That wasnât generated by impassively consuming the event before heading off to the next attraction. Wall of red? Not if people keep buying half and halfs it wonât be.
Thomas Cook go on: âThe Kop is the most renowned stand at Anfield amongst home and away supporters with the people who occupy the stand referred to as kopites. Traditionally, Liverpoolâs most vocal supporters congregate in the stand.â
Traditionally, Liverpoolâs most vocal supporters donât wear half and half scarves. So why wouldnât long-term fans get angry when they see the Godforsaken items dotted around what was once a well-respected terrace; the envy of clubs up and down the country?
If people want to come to Liverpool and take pictures and spend money â fine. But why canât they show the culture of the thing theyâre desperate to be a part of some respect? Why must we dance around and make excuses for people who are diluting the very thing they have been sold? Weâve always regarded Anfield as special. As different. Shrugging off the symbol of a game lost to money is another step towards the cinema experience â âSssshhh, the gameâs on, pass me my popcorn.â
The 12th man is actively marketed as a Liverpool selling point alongside the wider push for the Premier League as a entertainment product. The 12th man has never donned a half and half. Instead of putting cringe worthy tat under the noses of those descending on L4 why canât we try to keep Anfield special and different? Why do we have to glibly accept everything on the grounds of it being âhow it isâ?
Football grounds, city centres â theyâre all falling into the trap of homogenisation populated by clones. Same songs, same PA-booming pre-match build-up, same shops, same bullshit. Forget the culture, chase the pound. Why canât we say â why canât the club say â donât come here and be neutral, come here and make it special. We want noise and passion. If the idea is to come here to support Liverpool, then do that. Learn a song. Buy a red and white Liverpool scarf. Donât buy the Sun. Donât take the piss out of Liverpool the city and Liverpool the people.
And donât stand in the Liverpool end with a f**king Man United badge hanging around your neck.
Get these people engaged with the culture, donât just take their money. The message is clear and simple enough: itâs not a game where you shouldnât care, itâs a game you should be actively involved in.
Football has changed. And many things are shrugged off now as being âjust part of the gameâ. But supporters can still influence supporter culture. Supporters can still make a difference.
You can be reductive about anything. Itâs only a scarf. Itâs only a blue Liverpool kit. Itâs only a ridiculous monstrosity of a mascot. What it is, is change. And not change for the better. Thatâs why people get angry. Itâs not a life choice â itâs caring about something you love and being heartbroken by the direction itâs going in.
Half and half scarves represent the dying of the very thing that attracted the money, the TV companies and the wordwide interest â the fan culture. Pride, passion, identity and the tribal joy of following Liverpool Football Club is not represented by an item on your person that bears your rivalâs badge. Those that are consumed by everything Liverpool and have helped to make the atmosphere that is so revered â that have helped to make the banners, the flags and the songs â they know that; they wouldnât be seen dead wearing a half and half scarf.
So what are these âgrumpy old menâ getting angry at?
That. Thatâs what they are getting angry at.
http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2015/03/half-and-half-scarves-two-team-trash-that-belongs-in-the-bin/