Rafael Benitez

Ok he won the CL with a poor Liverpool side & won the Fa Cup last season but is this the time to say goodbye?

He plays the world's best CM as a winger.... as a winger!!! Would you play Ronaldinho as a holding midfielder? i think not!

Why take off Mark Gonzalez & Xabi Alonso who are Liverpools most tecnical players on the pitch? Gonzalez did nothing wrong, infact he was liverpools most dangerous player and Alonso was not perfect but by far the best CM for Liverpool that day with Gerrard playing poorly Momo was better than him. Why play Luis Garcia who has simply not got the pace or power for the Premiership?

Carragher is having a horror season along with Finnan, Hyypia's legs have gone he is only good in the air... and Riise was awful. Reina has had every game as a bad one so Kirky needs to come back in for him! Seriously, dudek needs to come back NOW!

Liverpool have the players in midfield & attack, they just don't have the right manager that every Liverpool fans wants! I might get abuse now that im saying this but being honest a club like liverpool should be on fire from the start of the season to the end of the season otherwise a club like Liverpool only has history to make its name and nothing else!

I wouldn't go that far as I think that is a bit of an over reaction. Thought don't get me wrong, I am seething and not at just this defeat. We all crave for better showing than so far but right now it just doesn't seem to happen.

A couple of my suggestions are: First for Raffa to keep a settled side and pick his best 11 regardless of who we are playing and let them play a few games together to get some sort of a momentum. Second is for whoever is out there on the pitch to keep it simple by passing it around and keeping possession of the ball. Keep the ball and a degree of patience would bring its rewards.

All that said I am still seething...

I don't think so.

Rafa has got to learn and yes I think he's a stubborn.  However he is the most technical manager we have ever had.   In the game today, you need technical managers.  

I think the problem is that we keep settling for second best.  I.E Pennant, bellamy.

rafa is a great manager one of the best in the world even real madrid wanted him thats how great he is

I AM STILL BEHIND U RAFA

a knee jerk reaction if ever there was one, i do have my critcisms of rafa like most supporters but getting rid of him is most certainly not on the agenda.

We can make our judgements game after game but its the end of the season when the trophys are being handed out that matters most and then we can make our judgements then.

2 of the biggest trophys you can win in consecutive seasons and even if we dont win the league this year dont bet against us winning another big trophy after all isnt that Liverpool is all about winning trpohys.

Yes we all crave for the league but if its not to be this season then its not to be but we can still win it and yes it will be very hard now but mathematically possible and we still in all cup competitions so lets wait til the end of the season ay.

rafa is a great manager one of the best in the world even real madrid wanted him thats how great he is

I AM STILL BEHIND U RAFA

here here !

Oh No make your mind up Kirky or dudek, or how about we get that Luzi back,
Your team wasn't exactly in fifth gear yesterday, your teams from the 90's would of t*atted us out of sight if we played like we did yesterday against them.

 oh and about your support, do any of your fans know any songs to sing about your own team, every song I heard the mongs sing yesterday was about us - what does that say!!!

Sorry Oh No about accusing you of being a manc just been for a scan around and looked in the board room, boy do I feel a t*at

Its just when we get beat by those c*nts it affects you mentally, we need to stick together as reds in the next few weeks cos there's gonna be some sh*t flying our way  eg Southampton away in 05 and the worst performance for 40 years crap.

Hopefully everyone is getting yesterday out of their system and those going on wed night get behind them

We also need to start cranking the atmosphere up at home games not just the euro games

if rafa dosent strt winning soon hes gota go
we cnt afoord to be dropping points every week

if rafa dosent strt winning soon hes gota go
we cnt afoord to be dropping points every week

OMG some suppporters have very short memories i bet you were singing ra ra ra rafa benitez at the start of the season and now that we are going through a sticky patch he has to go with what the man has achieved at the club in a short space of time dont you think he is allowed a bad patch.

If gerrard has a couple of bad games will you say sell him the same with carra no you wouldnt.

Liverpool F.C is a love affair to us all and should be treated with the same respect as a member of your own family, if a loved one was having a hard time would you get on their back about it and moan or would you help them through it.

As i have said in a previous post im not saying yesterdays result and performance is acceptable but it is obvious we are having a hard time of it and the club including the manager need evryone to rally round and be suportive

cant believe people are calling for rafas head, must have short memories.i know we are playing sh*t at the minute but i have faith in rafa to turn it around.who could replace him?keep the faith redmen we will get there.rafa is da man.

if rafa dosent strt winning soon hes gota go
we cnt afoord to be dropping points every week

Get a grip.

And a dictionary.

Get a grip.

And a dictionary

 

(Qoute) JD): 'get a grip'

what u on about you tw*t so use r saying i cant have my own opinion f*ck up!
what kinda forum is this

if i think he should go if he dosent start winning in the next two months THEN a f*ucking think he should go what you gona do

I said Get a grip - I didn't say you were not entitled to your opinion.

Don't post personal abuse on the forum.

sorry but didnt like the way use reacted to my opinion

we all love liverpool and thats all that matters

Not the best of starts to a seasons, bt last year was'nt the best either, and this time last year was when we start to win the games. so why should rafa have go now?

I think everyone is right saying rafa should stop rotation in the team, at the end of the day its to the players to perform on the pitch not just rafa picking the right team. so lets make are judgments at the end of the season like liverpaul sed.

if rafa dosent strt winning soon hes gota go
we cnt afoord to be dropping points every week

How can you say that, i dont agree with his rotation policy but it will keep our players fresh come january, when he won us the CL we had played crap in the league, but we still won the CL and that was helped by rotation.

Some fans have very short memories.....

am not convinced with the rotation policy excuse think about it the main players in rafas starting 11 are

reina
carra
hyypia
finnan
riise
alonso
gerrard
sissoko
kuyt

count the players its 9 and by my amazing powers of mathematics that only leaves 2 players short of a team so he is making 2 changes a game not 5/6 but because of the size of our squad and the different players who can play in positions it would appear that he is making loads.

The 1 exception which we cannot deny is that danny agger has to come into the fold at some point to replace hyypia we have to accept that for him to get experience he has to play so he will every now and then.

thats how i see it anyway

Ok he won the CL with a poor Liverpool side & won the Fa Cup last season but is this the time to say goodbye?

Computer says No.
 

Should we start questioning Rafa hes been here a while now and still no prem tittle yh ok hes won a few cups and the chompo leauge (get in) but i think if he doesnt get his act togeter we should get looking for a new man! My opinion!

Your views please!
thanks

Here is what the yanks are saying about Liverpools form as of write now,
hope this works for you
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/6165528

Well said dat man! Exactly what I meant even the americans are strating to say summat!

lets not start making decisions yet lets wait until january or at least Christmas
i have to say i dont like a couple of things he has done EG not buying Daniel Alves and ALL of the rotation but..

I think the lack of wins against da big guns somes it up! In my opinion he rins out of ideas dats why changes da team cous he gt nout else to do but, we shall see ur right well ave a look at christmas at da earlyist

Here is what the yanks are saying about Liverpools form as of write now,
hope this works for you
http://msn.foxsports.com/soccer/story/6165528

I admit I look at the line up changes Rafa makes and wonder what the hell is going on in his mind but he's the coach, and he knows what he's doing - at least I hope he does.  Whatever he does he's won us 4 trophy's in his time at th club and I trust that it's just a matter of time before our away form picks up. I don't want Rafa sacked, that would just disrupt the team more... and we want results, not upset.

i dont care wot u all think but this is LFC FOOTBALL CLUB!!

Time to call for Rafa's head NOW before its too late!

who cares about we had our hardest away games...

We should at least beat Arsenal & Man Utd away if we are gonna challenge for 1st, Everton & Bolton should be a no question win for Liverpool & not even getting a draw against 10 men Chelsea for 45 minutes shows our manager is not using the players to their prefared style!!!

Oh yeah and Sheff United.... well we should be beating them with our eyez closed!

Sorry to say it but Rafa is not good enough

I admit I look at the line up changes Rafa makes and wonder what the hell is going on in his mind but he's the coach, and he knows what he's doing - at least I hope he does.  Whatever he does he's won us 4 trophy's in his time at th club and I trust that it's just a matter of time before our away form picks up. I don't want Rafa sacked, that would just disrupt the team more... and we want results, not upset.

Hi Gids, nice to see you back posting, have to agree with you there, i still think Rafa's the one to get this sorted out, i just wish he wasnt so stubborn sometimes.  The obvious place to play Stevie is centre mid but he just keeps on putting him on the right grrrrrr  ......at least give it a go Rafa while Momo's out !

Hi Gids, nice to see you back posting, have to agree with you there, i still think Rafa's the one to get this sorted out, i just wish he wasnt so stubborn sometimes.  The obvious place to play Stevie is centre mid but he just keeps on putting him on the right grrrrrr  ......at least give it a go Rafa while Momo's out !

Great to be back Smig.

Oh yeah, Stevie defo should be center while Momo's missing... he plays better there than on the right.

get rid of rafa?

hell no, he is the right man to get liverpool back to winning ways, ok he rotates the team to much i admit but if u remeber he has one us cups while doing that, and yes i do think gerrard sud play in the middle while sissoko is out, but he is bak we sud play 3-5-1-1 the only way to chelsea

get rid of rafa?

hell no, he is the right man to get liverpool back to winning ways, ok he rotates the team to much i admit but if u remeber he has one us cups while doing that, and yes i do think gerrard sud play in the middle while sissoko is out, but he is bak we sud play 3-5-1-1 the only way to chelsea

well we should be at winning ways from day 1 not half way thru the season thats why we dont and will never win the premiership under Parry, Moores & Rafa

Time for Bill Gates & O'Neil to come!!!

well we should be at winning ways from day 1 not half way thru the season thats why we dont and will never win the premiership under Parry, Moores & Rafa

Time for Bill Gates & O'Neil to come!!!

  We're not half way through the season.  It still finishes in May the last time I checked.  And how many European Cups has Martin O'Neill won in his career?

I have great respect for O'neil... look how good Celtic were under him!!!
Now look what he is doing to an average or not even that team in a top flight league!!!

I have great respect for O'neil... look how good Celtic were under him!!!
Now look what he is doing to an average or not even that team in a top flight league!!!

Celtic - come on ... standard of opposition - the fact they were already the top side..

He has done well at Villa so far.  But hey, hang on, didn't Rafa's Liverpool beat O'Neill's Villa a couple of weeks ago?

There is a difference in quality at anfield for Liverpool.. thats how they should play away so i dont blame villa for gettin banged up by "Anfield Liverpool"

rember dat celtic are in a easy league

In Rafa we Trust
We have to back our manager no matter what, espeically if he proved himself many times and has made liverpool into a respected club again.  I mean this year we were considered challengers by the media, the same media who said we were out of the race eight games into the premiership.  I believe that we were too overhyped in the begining i mean man utd didnt buy anyone and when they did buy evra and vidic they were considered good enough but now there called quality players.  We need to gel and that takes time.  So if we dont support Rafa, who will? United, Arsenal, Chelsea...haha your having a laugh.  Lets get behind the brilliant man and show him that we trully do believe that he is still meant for liverpool.

Look what happened at utd when ferguson took over he didnt win the league for a couple of seasons and the fans were on his back but the board stood by him and look what he has done for them, give rafa time and he WILL win the league and many other trophies.

RAFA is the best manager in the world forget jose moanriniho he is only good cause he got money benitez dont need that cause he got the tactics he just needs to get it right one thing is to start playin gerrard where he wants to play which is centre mid, we have got a world class team just got to get them to work as a team like they did in champions league!!! maybe next season will be the time and benitez will show moanriniho how to manage a team without millions and millions of a russian beggers money!!!!!

OhNo - I officially accuse you of being a non Liverpool fan.
I think you are... FamousLiverbird.

VIVA LA RAFALUTION!!!

IN RAFA WE TRUST

The uncanny resemblance of OhNo and FamousLiverbird is just so blaring!

I think we've debated before about drastically changing our team just because it isn't performing with FamousLiverbird and I'm frustrated that this particular individual doesn't get it.

Changing managers, buying star players does not necessarily make the team better. O'Neill of course did wonders in Celtic but hey, that's the Scottish Premier League I would like to remind. Which is miles less competitive than the Premiership. If you put Rafa in O'Neill's place when he was in Celtic I bet they would already have gone furthur. And O'Neill's Villa was soundly beaten by Liverpool the other day, the very same Liverpool team that isn't performing under Rafa. How's that for comparison? How certain are you that O'Neill can make wonders if he were to come to Liverpool? And what much can he do? Re-introduce Milan Baros? Pahh, you can get any "great" manager in the world and replace Rafa right now, I don't think they can do much to drastically change the club's fortune.

What the club needs is a little bit more time to settle. We just got plenty of new faces. There's a lot more options, and to optimize the squad to its full potential, Rafa has to continue tinkering, sorting it out until it gets right. And surely soon we will find our footing and be back hungrier than ever.

We don't need an Abramovich or Bill Gates (ugh!) to change our fortunes, that's just plain cowardice and cheating like lil kids playing 1 star on Pro Evo.

I am just so baffled at OhNo's lack of faith, which is just so Un-Liverpool Fan-ish. To quote Darth Vader in A New Hope; "Your lack of faith is disturbing".

Come on fellow Kopites, get behind our heroes!

Bump.   

I know this may sound blonde (no offence to anyone at is a blonde)
but what in God's name does Bump mean?!?!?

I know this may sound blonde (no offence to anyone at is a blonde)
but what in God's name does Bump mean?!?!?

Im glad you asked that, i've been awake all night trying to work it out!! Come on JD help us out here!

Bump means that you post a reply to a topic so it "bumps" it up the listings on the front page !!  Like this ! 

Tar Smigger I feel educated! 

And i'm blonde Court !   

I may aswell dye my hair blonde cos' I still can't get my head round it...
Well - it is 00:39 and my eyes droop.
I can hear my pillow shouting me, I'm tempted!

Oh Court, stop being a blonde, its easy to understand, whenever anyone adds a post to a topic it automatically brings it to the top of the listings on the front page were all the topics are.  If someone simply says 'bump' in a post it will then bring it to the top again instead of leaving a full message.....got it ?